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Hey guys,
Can i flash normal twrp and Costum roms? Also when i have the Ultimate Version?
Sorry for my bad english, im german
You mean the 6/256 version . Look if you have unlocked bootloader or locked . If you have locked bootloader you have to apply for unlock permission on miui web. Once this is done you can flash TWRP and Custom Roms . Enjoy.
CayCay^^ said:
Hey guys,
Can i flash normal twrp and Costum roms? Also when i have the Ultimate Version?
Sorry for my bad english, im german
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Hi @CayCay^^,
there is no different TWRP for the 4 GB RAM / 128 GB ROM edition compared to the 6 GB RAM / 256 GB ROM edition.
You can always use the same TWRP for both versions.
Yeah I did it too, you flash the twrp for the mix and then follow the flashing instructions from there. So far there does not seem to be a difference between the 4gb and 6gb models twrp/rom wise. At least I noted no differences when I unlocked, rooted and romed my 6gb version/
Nicolfa said:
Yeah I did it too, you flash the twrp for the mix and then follow the flashing instructions from there. So far there does not seem to be a difference between the 4gb and 6gb models twrp/rom wise. At least I noted no differences when I unlocked, rooted and romed my 6gb version/
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Anyone knows what the Unlock problem that seems to be affecting a lot of users (including me) is?
I've gotten the unlock sms, and I've verified my account on the phone under Dev options, but when running the Mi Unlock tool it says either "Current Account is not bound to this device" on the latest version of Mi Unlock (2.2.406.5) and on an older version (1.1.0317.1) it says "Current account is different from the account info on the device".
I've never had this problem before. Wondering if the device was unlocked then locked again as it came with EN.MIUI and that's causing problems?
Selectaa said:
Anyone knows what the Unlock problem that seems to be affecting a lot of users (including me) is?
I've gotten the unlock sms, and I've verified my account on the phone under Dev options, but when running the Mi Unlock tool it says either "Current Account is not bound to this device" on the latest version of Mi Unlock (2.2.406.5) and on an older version (1.1.0317.1) it says "Current account is different from the account info on the device".
I've never had this problem before. Wondering if the device was unlocked then locked again as it came with EN.MIUI and that's causing problems?
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That's annoying, most come unlocked obviously you checked for this, to re-lock is just worrying. Give malwarebytes a run.
http://en.miui.com/thread-246705-1-1.html
Bit of information.
jazz452 said:
That's annoying, most come unlocked obviously you checked for this, to re-lock is just worrying. Give malwarebytes a run.
http://en.miui.com/thread-246705-1-1.html
Bit of information.
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Thanks. I've tried Fastboot to see if it's locked, and it is. So I guess it had to be unlocked at one point in time to install en.miui, or does Xiaomi now sell international versions with en.miui now?
Malwarebytes doesn't report anything fishy - thanks for that tip!
I might just wait two days for the en.miui Dev ROM and see if I can unlock the device then.
I've tried the en.miui.com forums but there are some many "thank u" etc posts that it's a mess to read through, keep up and identify problems
Selectaa said:
Thanks. I've tried Fastboot to see if it's locked, and it is. So I guess it had to be unlocked at one point in time to install en.miui, or does Xiaomi now sell international versions with en.miui now?
Malwarebytes doesn't report anything fishy - thanks for that tip!
I might just wait two days for the en.miui Dev ROM and see if I can unlock the device then.
I've tried the en.miui.com forums but there are some many "thank u" etc posts that it's a mess to read through, keep up and identify problems
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Always came with Chinese and English but that was it. Maybe they just wanted you to be able to use android pay and banking apps, unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs make that tricky. Where you got it from
I bought a Xiaomi mi 8 in a Xiaomi Shop in Shanghai. If I try to relock the bootloader I always get stuck booting on the recovery mode. Besides, I can not flash anything (supersu, xposed...) because I always end in bootloop; in both cases it is a softbrick
Can anybody help me?
If you have a mi8 Chinese box you aren't allowed to flash global ROM and lock bootloader.
And is there any way to fix it? Writing to Xiaomi, waiting X time...?
Thanks for your reply!
There are literally, more than a few hundred threads about not relocking. You modified your phone without reading up, no sympathy here. Your phone is dead if it is not global version. Gone. Paperweight. All the best to you
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There are literally, more than a few hundred threads about not relocking. You modified your phone without reading up, no sympathy here. Your phone is dead if it is not global version. Gone. Paperweight. All the best to you
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Hey! Nice to meet you and thanks for your kind answer. This placer is better thanks to people like you.
By the way,my mobile works perfectly. I relocked the bootloader more than once and I just needed to unblocked to solve it. About reading the posts, If you had read you would have realized that what interests me is simply to know if I can re-block the bootloader.
Who taught you to help people in forums that have problems and is probably having a bad time? Hitler?
Bortex19 said:
Hey! Nice to meet you and thanks for your kind answer. This placer is better thanks to people like you.
By the way,my mobile works perfectly. I relocked the bootloader more than once and I just needed to unblocked to solve it. About reading the posts, If you had read you would have realized that what interests me is simply to know if I can re-block the bootloader.
Who taught you to help people in forums that have problems and is probably having a bad time? Hitler?
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You are welcome for my help. There are posts all over. I suggest you learn the courtesy of posting in the right sections instead or even better (to read first), this belongs in Q&A: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/help/to-relock-bootloader-chinese-device-t3834937 where if you read you would have realized it is all over the place, including one i created: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/please-read-tweaking-mi-8-t3833454. Anyways, have a good day, leaving this here for anyone else before they create another thread to "unblock" their bootloader
Bortex19 said:
And is there any way to fix it? Writing to Xiaomi, waiting X time...?
Thanks for your reply!
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You can check out official xiaomi forum to see a way. However the official way posted there including open up the device & tinkering with the EDL mode, which is really too much of a hassle :/
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Bortex19 said:
Hey! Nice to meet you and thanks for your kind answer. This placer is better thanks to people like you.
By the way,my mobile works perfectly. I relocked the bootloader more than once and I just needed to unblocked to solve it. About reading the posts, If you had read you would have realized that what interests me is simply to know if I can re-block the bootloader.
Who taught you to help people in forums that have problems and is probably having a bad time? Hitler?
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Are you having a modern Xiaomi device? How can you relock bootloader without sending it to bootloop?
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You are welcome for my help. There are posts all over. I suggest you learn the courtesy of posting in the right sections instead or even better (to read first), this belongs in Q&A: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/help/to-relock-bootloader-chinese-device-t3834937 where if you read you would have realized it is all over the place, including one i created: https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/please-read-tweaking-mi-8-t3833454. Anyways, have a good day, leaving this here for anyone else before they create another thread to "unblock" their bootloader
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Better now, at least you're helping to find the information. And you are right, I should read more before doing anything; in fact, I read a lot but you know, internet is so big and it's no difficult to get lost in that information sea (even more if you're a noob in the area). I'll do it better next time.
Have a good day.
TeeHoang said:
You can check out official xiaomi forum to see a way. However the official way posted there including open up the device & tinkering with the EDL mode, which is really too much of a hassle :/
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Are you having a modern Xiaomi device? How can you relock bootloader without sending it to bootloop?
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I bought it a couple of weeks ago. And no, I cannot relock it without sending it to bootloop.
The thing went like that: I unlocked the bootloader, I flashed the global ROM, I relocked the bootloader and I fell into recovery bootloop. So I entered on fastboot mode, I unblocked the bootloader again (with the Xiaomi tool), I went to fastboot again and I reflashed the global ROM.
The bootloader have to be open to allow the global ROM work. I don't know why I have avoided the brick, but this is what I've done at least twice.
Bortex19 said:
I bought it a couple of weeks ago. And no, I cannot relock it without sending it to bootloop.
The thing went like that: I unlocked the bootloader, I flashed the global ROM, I relocked the bootloader and I fell into recovery bootloop. So I entered on fastboot mode, I unblocked the bootloader again (with the Xiaomi tool), I went to fastboot again and I reflashed the global ROM.
The bootloader have to be open to allow the global ROM work. I don't know why I have avoided the brick, but this is what I've done at least twice.
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Well if it bootloops the first time after you relocked it, it'll bootloop again & again. Was there any time after relocking did your phone boot properly? If not, you didn't avoid anything. As far as I understand, boot loop = soft brick.
And this is what I found on MIUI official forum:
TUTORIAL FLASH MI 8 BOOTLOP (SOFTBRICK & BRICK) WITH TESTPOIN:http://en.miui.com/thread-3459005-1-1.html
Bortex19 said:
I bought it a couple of weeks ago. And no, I cannot relock it without sending it to bootloop.
The thing went like that: I unlocked the bootloader, I flashed the global ROM, I relocked the bootloader and I fell into recovery bootloop. So I entered on fastboot mode, I unblocked the bootloader again (with the Xiaomi tool), I went to fastboot again and I reflashed the global ROM.
The bootloader have to be open to allow the global ROM work. I don't know why I have avoided the brick, but this is what I've done at least twice.
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If I read it right, your device goes into bootloop when installing a Global ROM version and trying to block the bootloader. Probably your device is a Chinese version, which should only have the bootloader locked running a China ROM.
Otherwise, it will be bootloop.
gugugrp said:
If I read it right, your device goes into bootloop when installing a Global ROM version and trying to block the bootloader. Probably your device is a Chinese version, which should only have the bootloader locked running a China ROM.
Otherwise, it will be bootloop.
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True that. Any Chinese devices running global will get (soft)bricked
Yeah, I was asking is you know the way to lock a chinese phone in global rom. Maybe in the future or with MIUI 10
Is it possible to enter EDL mode via opening your device and connecting the dots to enter 9008 Mode and than use QFIL (Qualcomm_Flash_Image_Loader) to restore the software, instead of going with the MiFlashTool and a needed EDL authorized account?
Bortex19 said:
Yeah, I was asking is you know the way to lock a chinese phone in global rom. Maybe in the future or with MIUI 10
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This is still too early to know, because development is still slow.
Wrong forum section.
Sigray said:
Wrong forum section.
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I could not find the way to change it. Do you know how to do it?
achickennugget said:
There are literally, more than a few hundred threads about not relocking. You modified your phone without reading up, no sympathy here. Your phone is dead if it is not global version. Gone. Paperweight. All the best to you
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Even if he posted in the wrong section he didn't deserve an answer like yours. Keep in mind the Android cooperate spirit and try not to be that rude. And if you had read better his post you had understood how great is the information he gave, go on reading below.
Bortex19 said:
The thing went like that: I unlocked the bootloader, I flashed the global ROM, I relocked the bootloader and I fell into recovery bootloop. So I entered on fastboot mode, I unblocked the bootloader again (with the Xiaomi tool), I went to fastboot again and I reflashed the global ROM.
The bootloader have to be open to allow the global ROM work. I don't know why I have avoided the brick, but this is what I've done at least twice.
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Actually these are excellent news, I had never read about a case like this. We knew that if the bootloader was unlocked by the seller and you locked it flashing a global rom (being a Chinese phone) you would get a brick only repairable through testpoint and using an authorized account. But I had never read about doing the same whith the bootloader unlocked by the user and I didn't know if it would be possible to unlock it again. So now we know this :
- Chinese unlocked by the seller -> brick locking while flashing global -> impossible to unlock and edl needed
- Chinese unlocked by the owner -> brick locking while flashing global -> ability to re-unlock and flash normally
I had some questions now :
1.- Did you have to wait to unlock the bootloader the first time? (360hrs, 720hrs.. You know)
2.- Did you have to wait when unlocking after the brick or was it instantly unlocked?
Thanks in advance!
descarao81 said:
Even if he posted in the wrong section he didn't deserve an answer like yours. Keep in mind the Android cooperate spirit and try not to be that rude. And if you had read better his post you had understood how great is the information he gave, go on reading below.
Actually these are excellent news, I had never read about a case like this. We knew that if the bootloader was unlocked by the seller and you locked it flashing a global rom (being a Chinese phone) you would get a brick only repairable through testpoint and using an authorized account. But I had never read about doing the same whith the bootloader unlocked by the user and I didn't know if it would be possible to unlock it again. So now we know this :
- Chinese unlocked by the seller -> brick locking while flashing global -> impossible to unlock and edl needed
- Chinese unlocked by the owner -> brick locking while flashing global -> ability to re-unlock and flash normally
I had some questions now :
1.- Did you have to wait to unlock the bootloader the first time? (360hrs, 720hrs.. You know)
2.- Did you have to wait when unlocking after the brick or was it instantly unlocked?
Thanks in advance!
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It seems to me that this is not so, as some members still manage. However, since they did not add their personal Account to the developer options, they were not able to unlock the device again because they did not have the account associated with the device. It seems to be something related to different cases.
What can be recommended is that the devices unlocked by the seller, return to Chinese ROM more stable, and have your bootloader blocked. By then, the user requests to unblock the bootloader regardless of the time they have to wait. Thus making everything safer, in the case of possible bricks in the future.
gugugrp said:
What can be recommended is that the devices unlocked by the seller, return to Chinese ROM more stable, and have your bootloader blocked. By then, the user requests to unblock the bootloader regardless of the time they have to wait. Thus making everything safer, in the case of possible bricks in the future.
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Have you ever heard of read about somebody doing that? Because I think there's still the doubt about the unlocking method used by the sellers, whether they do a regular unlock with an account or they patch the boot in any way which could cause problems locking the bootloader.
Hey there everyone, i recently got a brand new Redmi Note 9 (merlinnfc) And i tried rooting it,
Well, i've got everything, the magisk zip is on the phone, i have the TWRP image that i need (Un-official)
the only problem is... the goddamn bootloader. I have OEM unlocking in dev options turned on, and MiUnlock dosen't do **** since it's not supported in my country, any help?
The only thing i really need is just a guide on how to unlock the bootloader un-officially.
Yes i do have platform-tools,
Yes i did try "fastboot flashing unlock", resulted in a simple verification token error.
Yes i did try all those "One Click Root" Apps, mostly malware, and none of them have exploits that support MIUI 12.5.0
You can't unlock without the official way.
Get miunlocktool if you want to unlock your device.
Good luck
VD171 said:
You can't unlock without the official way.
Get miunlocktool if you want to unlock your device.
Good luck
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I've heard of an un-official method, I've even seen a link to a guide, however, it's down.
Are you sure MiUnlock is the only way?
Thanks.
TheMagnificent_Y said:
I've heard of an un-official method, I've even seen a link to a guide, however, it's down.
Are you sure MiUnlock is the only way?
Thanks.
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I didn't say miunlock is the only way.
I've said the official unlocking method is the only way.
For what I know, only two app can does it.
Miunlock and Xiaomitool:
Apply for unlocking Mi devices
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XiaoMiTool V2 - Modding of Xiaomi devices made easy for everyone
XiaoMiTool V2 is a easy to use tool to install rom on your Xiaomi device. Modding made easy for everyone! Download it for free now!
xiaomitool.com
Good luck
Soo I tried to get the unlock code for nokiadotcom phone sen_int bootloader but it says invalid IMEI
Nokia's official bootloader unlock server has stopped working. You cannot get unlock.key from the Nokia homepage. To be able to unlock the bootloader, you can use Hikari Calyk's paid unlocking service.
Direct bootloader unlock service for eligible Nokia and Sharp Phones
This service is discontinued. To request bootloader unlock, Visit here
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dongvatm said:
Nokia's official bootloader unlock server has stopped working. You cannot get unlock.key from the Nokia homepage. To be able to unlock the bootloader, you can use Hikari Calyk's paid unlocking service.
Direct bootloader unlock service for eligible Nokia and Sharp Phones
This service is discontinued. To request bootloader unlock, Visit here
hikaricalyx.com
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I've been reading for hours now about how to unlock the Nokia 8 TA-1012 bootloader, now that Nokia's official method is defunct.
Can someone clarify if this service, which seems to be reasonably priced, will lead to me having the actual unlock.key for keeps and, more importantly, will this enable me to unlock critical?
DFK79 said:
I've been reading for hours now about how to unlock the Nokia 8 TA-1012 bootloader, now that Nokia's official method is defunct.
Can someone clarify if this service, which seems to be reasonably priced, will lead to me having the actual unlock.key for keeps and, more importantly, will this enable me to unlock critical?
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No you will not get the unlock key. Yes it unlocks critical.
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No you will not get the unlock key. Yes it unlocks critical.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply! I'm trying to do this for a relative, so I don't want to screw up along the way. Is there ANY downside to not having the unlock key once the phone is critical unlocked? I'm not planning to relock it or anything, I'm just overwhelmed with the whole Treble thing and making sure I don't miss anything.
DFK79 said:
Thanks for taking the time to reply! I'm trying to do this for a relative, so I don't want to screw up along the way. Is there ANY downside to not having the unlock key once the phone is critical unlocked? I'm not planning to relock it or anything, I'm just overwhelmed with the whole Treble thing and making sure I don't miss anything.
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I succesfully unlocked the bootloader of my Nokia 8-TA1052 following this guide: https://www.techmesto.com/guide-unlock-bootloader-nokia-android-phones/
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I succesfully unlocked the bootloader of my Nokia 8-TA1052 following this guide: https://www.techmesto.com/guide-unlock-bootloader-nokia-android-phones/
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I've been real busy since I asked about the whole thing but I was planning to follow that exact guide. It unlocks critical, right? From there I install Treble and Custom ROM and theoretically, if it somehow bricks (seen a few people being unlucky) critical unlock will enable me to unbrick?
DFK79 said:
I've been real busy since I asked about the whole thing but I was planning to follow that exact guide. It unlocks critical, right? From there I install Treble and Custom ROM and theoretically, if it somehow bricks (seen a few people being unlucky) critical unlock will enable me to unbrick?
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Hello, in my case in December 2021 it was the first time I tried it and it went well, you have to strictly follow the instructions (make sure before you start that you have the correct connection with the PC in my case with W10-64b, the telephone connected, recognized, with ADB mode and "Unlock bootloader" activated and the ADB environment and tools running on the PC) and be patient since unlocking the bootloader with the Unlock Tool has 2 stages (the second I think I remember is the "critical unlock") so you have to let it go to the end. Once the bootloader is unlocked, when you restart the phone you will get a message that will always appear when you restart it, warning you that the bootloader is unlocked. Beware that by doing so the phone will be reset to factory settings and all user data will be lost so make sure to make a backup before. At the end of the unlock process you will also be asked if you want to donate through PayPal any amount of money voluntarily to the developers of the Unlock tool/techmesto. In short, the key is to read the instructions very well and follow them exactly. After the unlocking of the bootloader and the installation of the Treble you can now put any custom ROM. I hope the whole process goes well for you.
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Hello, in my case in December 2021 it was the first time I tried it and it went well, you have to strictly follow the instructions (make sure before you start that you have the correct connection with the PC in my case with W10-64b, the telephone connected, recognized, with ADB mode and "Unlock bootloader" activated and the ADB environment and tools running on the PC) and be patient since unlocking the bootloader with the Unlock Tool has 2 stages (the second I think I remember is the "critical unlock") so you have to let it go to the end. Once the bootloader is unlocked, when you restart the phone you will get a message that will always appear when you restart it, warning you that the bootloader is unlocked. Beware that by doing so the phone will be reset to factory settings and all user data will be lost so make sure to make a backup before. At the end of the unlock process you will also be asked if you want to donate through PayPal any amount of money voluntarily to the developers of the Unlock tool/techmesto. In short, the key is to read the instructions very well and follow them exactly. After the unlocking of the bootloader and the installation of the Treble you can now put any custom ROM. I hope the whole process goes well for you.
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Thank you very much for the detailed advice. If I can bother you for one more thing, there's multiple Treble threads/guides on here and some seem (!) outdated or conflicting. Could you maybe point me to one guide/thread you recommend? I have the Nokia 8 TA-1012 here.
I've flashed and rooted maybe half a dozen phones over the years while always just lurking and reading here but in this case, it seems so much riskier and complicated, so I appreciate any and all advice.
DFK79 said:
Thank you very much for the detailed advice. If I can bother you for one more thing, there's multiple Treble threads/guides on here and some seem (!) outdated or conflicting. Could you maybe point me to one guide/thread you recommend? I have the Nokia 8 TA-1012 here.
I've flashed and rooted maybe half a dozen phones over the years while always just lurking and reading here but in this case, it seems so much riskier and complicated, so I appreciate any and all advice.
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Hello, I have followed the instructions in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...kia-8-with-project-treble-2019-07-02.3946249/ and I used from downloads (https://github.com/resident-nokia/t-virus/releases) the last stable version: https://github.com/resident-nokia/t-virus/releases/tag/20201108
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Hello, I have followed the instructions in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...kia-8-with-project-treble-2019-07-02.3946249/ and I used from downloads (https://github.com/resident-nokia/t-virus/releases) the last stable version: https://github.com/resident-nokia/t-virus/releases/tag/20201108
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This is the only one I tried and it works for me, remember to download the revert firmware too (https://github.com/resident-nokia/t-virus/releases/tag/5150-revert) because it posible you will need it.
bunzo said:
This is the only I tried and it works for me, remember to download the revert firmware too (https://github.com/resident-nokia/t-virus/releases/tag/5150-revert) because it posible you will need it.
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Thanks a lot for all the input, I'll add all this into my notes and read everything diligently before I do anything. Appreciate you taking the time to help me out!
Hi there,
I'm currently trying to re-lock the bootloader of my Xperia XZ1C. I already flashed to stock firmware.
Like some people have issues to unlock the bootloader (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/sony-xperia-xz1-sov36-bootloader-unlock-issuae-issue.4182675/), FlashTool fails the same way for me to re-lock.
As soon as I start BLU, the tool fails with ERROR-Cannot invoke "String.split(String)" because the return value of "java.util.Properties.getProperty(String)" is null.
fastboot oem lock does not work either (unknown command).
Is there any known way how to re-lock the bootloader?
Thanks in advance!
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You cannot re-lock the XZ1c bootloader.
All of the guides for unlocking emphasize that pretty clearly.
f000bar said:
You cannot re-lock the XZ1c bootloader.
All of the guides for unlocking emphasize that pretty clearly.
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Someone will probably find a way later….
Keno_I said:
Someone will probably find a way later….
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No, they won't. The phone has been out for many years, and a large number of very smart people have tried.
And if they used an eFuze or something then it's definitely irreversible.
Don't get the person's hopes up with "maybe one day".
For all intents and purposes, the answer is no.
f000bar said:
No, they won't. The phone has been out for many years, and a large number of very smart people have tried.
And if they used an eFuze or something then it's definitely irreversible.
Don't get the person's hopes up with "maybe one day".
For all intents and purposes, the answer is no.
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So if I started development on finding a way?
Then what shall you say then?
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So if I started development on finding a way?
Then what shall you say then?
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You're kidding, right? If you started _exploring_ whether there was a way, then until you solve the problem, it's still not possible until you actually do it.
Your attempts don't change that, though we could potentially say "you can't right now, but some folks are working on trying."
if I tell you I'm trying to build a time machine, does that mean time travel is possible? Of course not. That only changes when it's successful.