Hello,
Sum up
I'm looking for a good way to record 4K 60 FPS with an external microphone, and possibly using any camera of the phone.
Why
I'm trying to find a convenient way to record good quality videos with speaking subjects (interviews and such) on the phone.
I aim the best possible quality for comfort and durability. I am therefore trying to film 4K 60 FPS with an external Lavalier microphone plugged in the jack port of the phone. (I'm also using a gimbal and stands depending on the context).
I also want to sometimes use the main camera, and sometimes the wide angle lens.
Phone
I'm using a stock ROM Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro (8GB RAM/256GB Storage, Global version).
Issues
As simple as it seems, I'm encountering a few issues/limitations.
Default video app :
- doesn't seem to take an external microphone
- has mediocre but OK audio compression quality
- has an 8 minutes limit when filming 4K 60 FPS (don't know about other formats).
(My 8 minutes 4K 60 FPS video is 2.2GB, so it doesn't seem to be a file size limit)
- and it's also the only one that seems to support video recording with any lens/camera on the phone...
I'm willing to sacrifice on audio quality if someone can think of a way to use an external mic, and get rid of that 8 minutes time limitation with the default camera app.
Issues with other apps
I've tried a lot of alternate video apps, but none allowed me to record videos using the wide angle lens, or they were bugged or wouldn't take the external mic or woulldn't do 60 FPS in 4K...
- OpenCamera : Works great for everything, most stable so far, OK with external mic, no time limit and all, but no wide angle
- 4K Camera Pro : No 4K 60 FPS (limited to 30 FPS), crashes a lot, no option for using wide angle camera, takes external mic
- Cinema FV-5 Lite : No option for more than 30 FPS, 4K is limited to the pro version, no option for wide angle camera
- HedgeCam2 : Unable to even select 4K anymore after testing the app, couldn't find an option to select another camera, should take external mic, not tested that much.
- Google Camera (from Pixel) : Supports wide angle for photo, but not video. Stopped testing there.
- DJI Mimo : This is the app from my gimbal, no 4K 60 FPS (no framerate option), and won't take external microphone... So it's OK for making footage, but not interviews.
Question
For now, my best option is to forget about the wide angle and to just use Open Camera which is not 100% satisfying...
So my question is this:
Does anyone see a better option? Maybe even a ROM or an addon that could force microphone selection? I'm willing to go to custom builds at this point.
Thank you
UltimateByte said:
Hello,
Sum up
I'm looking for a good way to record 4K 60 FPS with an external microphone, and possibly using any camera of the phone.
Why
I'm trying to find a convenient way to record good quality videos with speaking subjects (interviews and such) on the phone.
I aim the best possible quality for comfort and durability. I am therefore trying to film 4K 60 FPS with an external Lavalier microphone plugged in the jack port of the phone. (I'm also using a gimbal and stands depending on the context).
I also want to sometimes use the main camera, and sometimes the wide angle lens.
Phone
I'm using a stock ROM Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro (8GB RAM/256GB Storage, Global version).
Issues
As simple as it seems, I'm encountering a few issues/limitations.
Default video app :
- doesn't seem to take an external microphone
- has mediocre but OK audio compression quality
- has an 8 minutes limit when filming 4K 60 FPS (don't know about other formats).
(My 8 minutes 4K 60 FPS video is 2.2GB, so it doesn't seem to be a file size limit)
- and it's also the only one that seems to support video recording with any lens/camera on the phone...
I'm willing to sacrifice on audio quality if someone can think of a way to use an external mic, and get rid of that 8 minutes time limitation with the default camera app.
Issues with other apps
I've tried a lot of alternate video apps, but none allowed me to record videos using the wide angle lens, or they were bugged or wouldn't take the external mic or woulldn't do 60 FPS in 4K...
- OpenCamera : Works great for everything, most stable so far, OK with external mic, no time limit and all, but no wide angle
- 4K Camera Pro : No 4K 60 FPS (limited to 30 FPS), crashes a lot, no option for using wide angle camera, takes external mic
- Cinema FV-5 Lite : No option for more than 30 FPS, 4K is limited to the pro version, no option for wide angle camera
- HedgeCam2 : Unable to even select 4K anymore after testing the app, couldn't find an option to select another camera, should take external mic, not tested that much.
- Google Camera (from Pixel) : Supports wide angle for photo, but not video. Stopped testing there.
- DJI Mimo : This is the app from my gimbal, no 4K 60 FPS (no framerate option), and won't take external microphone... So it's OK for making footage, but not interviews.
Question
For now, my best option is to forget about the wide angle and to just use Open Camera which is not 100% satisfying...
So my question is this:
Does anyone see a better option? Maybe even a ROM or an addon that could force microphone selection? I'm willing to go to custom builds at this point.
Thank you
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Try filmic pro, it's not free but has a huge amount of options when it comes to resolutions, compression/container method, camera and fps, there's actually too much for me to mention, the ui is a little cluttered but I think it's down to having so much stuff
sofir786 said:
Try filmic pro, it's not free but has a huge amount of options when it comes to resolutions, compression/container method, camera and fps, there's actually too much for me to mention, the ui is a little cluttered but I think it's down to having so much stuff
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Just got the Filmic Pro app, really great even though it doesn't solve the camera switch issue. Thanks for sharing.
Sent a few suggestions to the devs, we'll see.
One boring thing is it gets back to the default (internal) mic after unplugging the external and does not go back to external when you plug it back. No big deal but might lead to errors. Also, it doesn't support the DJI Osmo Mobile 3 yet, but since the 1 and 2 are supported, it's likely a mater of time. That's awesome already that it supports some gimbals at all.
For the rest, it's pretty cool, I like the interface and ease of use, that's the most professional video app I've seen yet.
We'll see, I'm glad I've got this app in my library anyways.
Related
Since I have succesfully activated HAL3 on our device, I started getting amazing pictures with the help Google Camera. The noise reduction is off, the quality is crystal-clear, which means that we haveamazing sensors on both our cameras, the rear and front one.
But even with this feature turned on, the quality of the built-in cameras of Instagram, Skype, Google Duo , Whatsapp and Viber offer a very low quality of the image even when taking photos but most important - when making a video call. The quality is awfull, just like the stock camera with it's noise reduction on. Blury image and very low FPS while in a videocall. We have great camera modules on our phone, so how to find in the ROMs a way to make these apps use the best quality available of our cameras? Is it related to HAL1 or HAL3 or is there a code in the kernel that can be modified? Or what is the key to make it work better?
When opening the video camera of the stock camera app - the image is clear and the noise-reduction is off...so it is amazing, even the fps is high, no glicthes. As soon as I switch the camera back to the photo, I get a blury image and low fps in of the viewfinder.... exaclty the same is within any of the above meantioned apps. How to make a better camera quality when using them? I haven't found any solution anywhere on the XDA forum not even on the 4pda forum.
Am I the only one concerned about this fact?
The front camera of this device is OV5675 Sensore and read on their page, it says it can handle video recording of Full HD at 60FPS
Than why did the MIUI limit it's capabilities so low? To make it look like a cheap sensor and sell the phone as budget?
Anyone?
Just got updated to pie last night. This morning while I was testing camera settings, I noticed that video stabilization is missing in the default camera app settings. in Oreo, I can stabilize videos (except 4k and 16:9), but now, it's simply missing. And test shots confirmed that there is no stabilization (optical or what so ever) anymore. That just sucks. It was very useful to take videos of my kids playing while running after them. Now without it, all the videos gonna be garbage.
Any idea how to fix it? or just simply accept it as it is?
You've got stabilisation in 1080P FHD enabled by default. There is no option for stabilisation because it's enabled by default in supported resolutions.
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There is no option for stabilisation because it's enabled by default in supported resolutions.
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Which makes is quite useless for pro use with a gimbal or other situations where you want stabilisation off. Great camera hardware by Sony, lousy software to control it by Huawei.
When you dont want ois and want use gimbal, then use another resolution
4k example
olafsand said:
When you dont want ois and want use gimbal, then use another resolution
4k example
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This was my thought too at first. Then I tried Full-HD 30 FPS with my gimbal and it works fine! Also FHD 60FPS and 4K work too, as expected.
olafsand said:
When you dont want ois and want use gimbal, then use another resolution
4k example
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? Not doable due to after processing constraints.
I'm still on Oreo, I just extracted the Huawei Camera APK with APK Extractor Lite. Can someone on Android Pie try to install the old camera apk (if installing is successful) and look if stabilisation is working again?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8cdsjdv2hm2rir/Kamera_com.huawei.camera_80000302_8.0.0.302_.apk?dl=0
Ois works for 1080p 30 fps / 16:9 only.
It works in:
- 720p 30fps
- 1080p 30fps (both 16:9 and 18:9)
There is a workaround, if you want to shut it off. Go to video mode ( not pro mode), turn on beautification. The OIS stopped working, but you're stuck at 720p 30fps.
creatip said:
It works in:
- 720p 30fps
- 1080p 30fps (both 16:9 and 18:9)
There is a workaround, if you want to shut it off. Go to video mode ( not pro mode), turn on beautification. The OIS stopped working, but you're stuck at 720p 30fps.
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I think it is the EIS (software stabilization) because the OIS is built into the lens, it seems to work in all resolutions.
The EIS crops the video a bit, and tries to reframe it to cancel harsh movement. But it compensates (in my P10 phone at least, which model seems also affected with the bug) to wrong direction turned 90 degree. If You move up-down, it compensates left-right for me, causing more fake shake recorded.
Hello! So reading this feed, it sounds as though the stabilisation is still working for the Huawei P20 Pro cam, but just the option to turn this on and off has recently disappeared. Weird. Why would Huawei do this? Is the stabilisation definitely still working on all resolutions barring 40? My eyes suggest otherwise.
1: Does s10 supports log v2 ?
2: How about autofocus, is it working correctly ?
3: Is it posible to use all three lenses ?
4: Does it have droped frames in extreeme quality ?
Thank you.
My first testing is horrible, tried all qualities:
4k 60fps (not working fine) -> 58.62fps, 58,26fps (the same even quality low)
4k 30fps (fine)
1080p 240fps (not working fine)-> 231,88fps, 228,77fps, 230,51fps
1080p 120fps (not working fine)-> 118 fps
Edit: You can shoot video in HDR+ which results in a flat profile, that can be graded in Premiere very heavily. First it looks completely overexposed, as soon as I check HDR in the lumetri effect in Premiere and bring the kurves down all highlights start coming back. Don't know what log v2 is...
None of the formerly awesome video/editing apps work correctly on the S10+ so far. Very irritating
Then at least there is hope it can be fixed on the Software Side later on... I hope next update will fix things. Of which Video Editing Apps are you talking? My first Samsung.
And back to your question, found this: reddit.com/r/galaxys10/comments/b4x57d/samsung_s10_zhiyun_smooth_4_filmic_pro_log/
I got the S10 plus Exynos and I get an ugly frame drop with Filmic Pro. Don't know what to do anymore.
Tele lens is not working..
Wide angle front and back is working pretty good
So now that it is 2020, have things gotten any better with Filmic and the S10+ ? thx.
Currently app supports 4K 24p Wide, and ultra Wide on S10+ Exynos, and 1080p on front camera. Video recording from front is wider than on stock cam. I'm noticing though issues with the sound - it's not working on internal mic, only at external but not always.
Hi,
I wanted to know if this is normal on Xiaomi mi 11 Ultra, but
when I shoot in 4k 60 fps in HDR10+ (10 bit colors), I'm getting weird artifacts in the video. Look at: StockCamera10Bit.jpg
It's such an unusable mess. I'm shooting at PRO. It doesn't matter what ISO, shutter speed and white balance is selected. It's always this. Subject has to be moving.
If I select 8bit, it's ok, just normal motion blur.
Is it normal on this phone? Can anybody confirm it?
I have the same problem in McPro24FPS in anything over 30 FPS even in 8 bits, so that's troubling me a bit.
I have the phone for a few weeks now and it's just amazing how the video footage degrades, when you do not want to film in AUTO
And even, if you satisfy with AUTO and only lock exposure and focus, it's also crap, when you move the camera or something is moving in front of it
I can see, that the only thing that manufacturers are interested in is AUTO mode which gives you nice HDR, but is always changing exposure, so it's interesting only for YouTube reviewers and DXOMark I guess. But for semi-serious video shooter I'm still amazed how they market 8k video and I cannot get even decent 4k 60 fps for slow mo (not even usable Full HD in 60 FPS).
I would satisfy with 8 bit, but it's unusable in stock app, because it's changing exposure even if it's locked and other app give me these artifacts anyway...
wait... did they convert 8-bit to 10-bit using bad dithering?
GuyWithRootedPhone said:
wait... did they convert 8-bit to 10-bit using bad dithering?
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Alexander from McPro24FPS said, that it is a bug in HDR merging. It should have phones with HDR on by default.
It is some setting, that can be be turned off programmatically, but it's the matter of finding it.
What is the best compromise in terms of settings for the video shooting for the OnePlus 10 Pro?
I have noticed that some of the settings available make the choppy videos and/or incompatible with external devices or apps.
- resolution (720p, 1080p, 4k or 8k)
- FPS (30 fps, 60 fps or 120 fps)
-- I have noticed AI Highlight Video and Ultra Steady are only available for 1080p, 60 fps. It seems to be the best compromise but happy to get your feedback on it.
What do you think about the below settings?
- 10 bit color for Photo / Night modes
- HEIF to retain quality and reduce file size
-- It seems to be fine if photos are converted before editing (on Photoshop / Lightroom for ex.) and exporting to JPG
- HEVC to save video space
-- I have noticed compatibility issues on certain videos on VLC for example or Whatsapp sharing (as it is compressing videos)
Thanks
any thoughts?
antoinecimino said:
What is the best compromise in terms of settings for the video shooting for the OnePlus 10 Pro?
I have noticed that some of the settings available make the choppy videos and/or incompatible with external devices or apps.
- resolution (720p, 1080p, 4k or 8k)
- FPS (30 fps, 60 fps or 120 fps)
-- I have noticed AI Highlight Video and Ultra Steady are only available for 1080p, 60 fps. It seems to be the best compromise but happy to get your feedback on it.
What do you think about the below settings?
- 10 bit color for Photo / Night modes
- HEIF to retain quality and reduce file size
-- It seems to be fine if photos are converted before editing (on Photoshop / Lightroom for ex.) and exporting to JPG
- HEVC to save video space
-- I have noticed compatibility issues on certain videos on VLC for example or Whatsapp sharing (as it is compressing videos)
Thanks
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Lightroom also failed to load some photos too due to some settings.may be HEIF but not same for all.