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Anybody else see the news on this? I'm hoping for great things in the distant future!
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This is a game changer for the industry. I'm not saying Google's going to come in and dominate now that they have a cell phone production company. This does mean that each business that competes in the cell phone market will have to re-evaluate how they approach the competition.
I'm hoping it'll also means we get some pure vanilla Android devices from Motorola like the original Droid was.....
I was thinking the same thing as far as the vanilla android. I'm hoping for a few more keyboard sliders like the droid line as well as quicker updates. Probably won't see it with the D3 but as future devices come out, and it'd definitely be nice.
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n0manarmy said:
This is a game changer for the industry. I'm not saying Google's going to come in and dominate now that they have a cell phone production company. This does mean that each business that competes in the cell phone market will have to re-evaluate how they approach the competition.
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I think the additional control they'll have will allow for better QC. I may dislike the iphone but I do see how working with everything so closely knit allows for a better device overall. I just hope the other alliance manufacturers don't catch a hissy over this.
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So far, no hissy fits LOL But this is also PR speak as well.
Peter Chou, CEO, HTC:
We welcome the news of today's acquisition, which demonstrates that Google is deeply committed to defending Android, its partners, and the entire ecosystem.
Bert Nordberg, President & CEO, Sony Ericsson:
I welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners.
Jong-Seok Park, President & CEO, LG:
We welcome Google's commitment to defending Android and its partners.
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tcrews said:
So far, no hissy fits LOL But this is also PR speak as well.
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That's good so far! I'm sure google took special precautions before letting the news out so the other oems wouldn't feel threatened.
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Maybe this will mean quicker updates for us in the future, especially if the OMAP4 is the lead platform for ICS. I'd love it if the D3 and Bionic were the first non Nexus devices to get vanilla ICS.
I'm just thinking of all the possibilities now...(hopefully) we can get things like unlocked bootloader, faster ICS thats hopefully vanilla, and all that fun stuff now.
I was so surprised at this when I read it this morning I actually checked to make sure it wasn't Apr 1.
I hope this means unlocked bootloader and root is coming soon to this phone! Also, we need some ICS!
Unable to think logically yesterday...
so phone is now fixed...
XDA = Awesome you guys are the best.....
However if i had never of found you i doubt i would be trying out so much new stuff...hhmmmm interesting circle of events.
XDA helped break it ...(with showing me how to make my phone better)
Yet XDA helped fix it ...(with all the people who give up their time and resources to help and make your problem go away)
So without you XDA this would never of happened!!
In the words of +Azrienoch Jeff Smith
That's the moral of the news this week...
Without XDA you would be stuck with a great phone and little to no understanding of how it works or its full potential.
So learn to read and always start at the beginning when it goes wrong. Which it will. More than once.
So thank you.
I love my phone
(CM7 is better then my friends stock galaxy nexus)
Not here?
twentY THOUSAND CHAR
I don't know... Android Central, Rootzwiki? Whatever the next biggest forum is I suppose.
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This site is just awesome! I've learn so much about customization and learning how to do so many things! Thanks ya'll!
In line at an apple store trying to get an Iphone!
there would be alot me bricked phones thats for sure
Not just phones but tablets and other stuff! Kudos!
blong579 said:
there would be alot me bricked phones thats for sure
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Not really... because the reason they get bricked in the first place is because of XDA.
How do you become a Moderator you thing?
slapshot30 said:
Not really... because the reason they get bricked in the first place is because of XDA.
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Haha. But so very true.
For me, without XDA, I wouldn't own the phone I do. It has a locked bootloader. But not even that was an obstacle for the people here. So, seeing all the custom roms, I decided to buy the device despite the locked bootloader. And what I got was a very nice device for a very nice price. Thanks to XDA.
without XDA I wouldn't have all the great apps I have now.
<3 XDA.
without this forum and more importantly, all the great contributions by the amazing members here, I'd be totally lost.
I learned so much just in the past few months... just a wonderful place.
coughipmartcough lol
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Not really... because the reason they get bricked in the first place is because of XDA.
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Baa, XDA doesnt help brick phones, people brick phone, more specifically people who dont read what they are doing an jump in the deep end with both feet before bothering to check how deep it was and if it infact had any water in it to begin with..... its like cars, cars dont kill people, people kill people
actually, thinking about it, a better question would be, where would XDA be without android
My answer to that? there'd be a lot less flamed **** fighting fanboy oneup man ship, cant we all just get along!
Let's see... I would had gotten a kindle instead of a nook touch during black friday . I discover XDA and i instantly brought the nook touch! and next day I brought another!
Now I have a HD2 I'm trying figure out ><! So much fun
Android without XDA is like iOS. Haha.
Without XDA we would be kissing Apple behind right now.. Thanks XDA
Without XDA, I would be lost-in-space!
Without xda, i would have thrown my phone out the window
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Without XDA , my device would be slow as hell
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dazza9075 said:
Baa, XDA doesnt help brick phones, people brick phone, more specifically people who dont read what they are doing an jump in the deep end with both feet before bothering to check how deep it was and if it infact had any water in it to begin with..... its like cars, cars dont kill people, people kill people
actually, thinking about it, a better question would be, where would XDA be without android
My answer to that? there'd be a lot less flamed **** fighting fanboy oneup man ship, cant we all just get along!
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True. But still if there weren't even XDA then there'd be no issues with bricking.
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i dont know if this is already well known but i just came across it. here is a petition for motorola mobility to unlock the bootloaders. sign if you like, i just did.
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
This is very well known. Belongs in the general section, and there are already three other threads qwith this. And bout ten threads that turned into talks like this. All unlock talk has already discussed
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Sorry, just trying to help. My search turned up no threads like this, and theres really no reason to be a **** about it.
signed
Signed
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Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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This
Not being a ****. Just blunt. There are so many and people have been told alot so its too much to write a nice letter each time.
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edit: hope i didnt offend you though. im really just a blunt person, no harm :]
We have been signing petitions since the OG Droid. Never worked.
Rocking with my M3 and XDA app
signed
I don't have any issue with the concept of this, and I signed it, although I don't think moto cares given the size of the actual modding population. However, why do people throw around the word 'rights' so much? Really, it's a right? No it's a want... I know I'll prolly get derided for this but still... Right?
This convo has been had millions of times. really doesnt need to be repeated to the same effect where it changes nothin
Agreed.
Noble intentions, wasted time.
Either googlerolla will deliver or they won't.
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shobon said:
Sign my butt. This isn't going to work. People have been complaining about locked bootloaders on a plethora of Moto phones for years, and an online petition won't make any sort of difference.
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I agree with you 100%.
I still signed.
That's how frustrated I feel at all this. I'm reminded of my time with the orginal milestone. Checking internet every day to see if someone fgured out how to shoehorn froyo onto the thing. For some reason I thought moto would change... maybe it was because they said they would.
Yeah its a long shot for this petition to do anything, I very sincerely doubt it will. But I would love to be wrong. It only takes two seconds to sign it.
Signed also
While I've signed the petition, I have a ready-made solution that nobody has seemed to mention yet... stop buying Motorola devices.
I've enjoyed Moto's offerings since the OG Droid days, mainly because of the superior build quality, but due to Moto's lock down on devices, and their lack of willingness to placate us, the way HTC has done, the D3 will be the last Motorola device I purchase. Let's face it, performance-wise, Moto doesn't build top-notch machines, the screen quality is sub par, and support is non-existent. Build quality is the ONLY thing they have going for them, and with Samsung making moves to improve their own build quality, I don't see any reason to stick around.
Motorola is not going to change their stance on this matter, and as such, the only way we can really make them listen, is by hitting them where it hurts...their wallets. I believe over 10,000 people have signed the petition (not a huge number, compared to global Moto sales), but 10,000 units at $150 each, equates to $1,500,000 in revenue. Again, that number may be small by comparison, but I'm sure a $1.5m decrease would get someone's attention.
My advice to anyone who's upset enough to sign this petition, is to move to a company with a better track record of being development friendly. Quad-core offerings are on the horizon, and a new Nexus device should be spotted around Christmas...I'll be saving my money, and WILL be jumping ship as soon as I can. The Moto journey has been "fun", but it's time to trade build quality for better performance and support. I'm done buying phones that are (essentially) dead on arrival, and obsolete within 3 months of release... I urge the rest of you to follow suit.
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I signed it but it will not work every phone i have gotten they stop suporting it and i have had my droid 3 for a few mouths and some keys are not working right i have to hit them 3 to 4 times when i get the money and its very unlikly im going with a new phone with a unlocked bootloader or one with one that can have a good work a round but the droid 3 is a good phone dont get me worng i just need a unlocked bootloader that way i will have custom kernels and working cm9
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I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
DoubleYouPee said:
I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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THAT!
i like HTC better than samsung, and being a fan of HTC since the S710 times...and having HTC dev around is pretty helpful.
BUT:
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-drops-qwerty-phones-78268/
and
http://www.gsmarena.com/at_t_htc_one_x_not_part_of_htcs_bootloader_unlocking_program-news-4210.php
so...their methods are not perfect at all
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I would if HTC or samsung had a proper high end QWERTY phone
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Yes! That's my main issue . However a soft keyboard is looking more and more possible as there won't be any other options...
Many people have been toying with the idea that, the Nexus 4, being a Nexus device, could be riddled with bugs and glitches at the time of release, and thus have only placed a small amount of stock for sale so those issues only stay among a small amount of people.
The guys at Google, instead of testing for hours on end, let the public do so, and then check up on sites, like this one, for issues people have with the phone and thus fix it up. This could explain why the Bumpers are already stocked, but the phones themselves are looking to be released Black Friday, several days after, and this time, with a whole lot more stock as they have to take into account the back orders, as well poor guys like me who missed out.
What are your thoughts on this?
Wouldn't that be unfair to the people who managed to buy it out first? I mean they are essentially paying the same amount for a phone that is supposed to have the kinks sorted out already, not pay to have a phone in beta testing. But I really hope this is the case, and Google not only sorts out these issues but also offers compensation to the early adopters as to make everyone happy and fair!
Tin Foil Hat time for you i think...
Where did you see stocked bumpers?
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Google Play.
Google Play, mate.
LaviLoki said:
Google Play, mate.
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It's sold out in the US Google Play store...
If that's true then we'll be seeing an update from Google shortly after the second batch go out?
Negative, the nexus one was the trial run.
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Doubtful. I just don't think Google anticipated it being quite so popular. Worst of all, they allowed you to purchase up to 5 in one hit, which more then a handful of people did. 1-2 max on launch and up to a week or two after in my opinion. This would have ensured 'a lot' more people actually got a phone and it would have stopped eBay being flooded with N4's by people looking to make a quick buck.
Every nexus phone is trails . We get it test it Google updates other OEM make there phones with the new version. As far are you tin foil hat about a multi billion dollar company not testing I doubt that
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How could the 4th generation of anything be a test run?
Tinfoil Hattery abounds in the General forum. It's a conspiracy I tells ya!
LaviLoki said:
Many people have been toying with the idea that, the Nexus 4, being a Nexus device, could be riddled with bugs and glitches at the time of release, and thus have only placed a small amount of stock for sale so those issues only stay among a small amount of people.
The guys at Google, instead of testing for hours on end, let the public do so, and then check up on sites, like this one, for issues people have with the phone and thus fix it up. This could explain why the Bumpers are already stocked, but the phones themselves are looking to be released Black Friday, several days after, and this time, with a whole lot more stock as they have to take into account the back orders, as well poor guys like me who missed out.
What are your thoughts on this?
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lol, no
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We, the public, being beta testers for Google products? Pffft!
No place for this type of speculation on this board. If you have news, tips, tricks, guides, or howtos, feel free to post. This type of stuff is more suited for your blog.
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Hello everyone
I can no longer read the forum from my Oppo via the tapatalk application, why? does anyone have the same problem?
Tapatalk integration has been removed. It won't work anymore. We have a new XDA app: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...rolling-out-now.4199599/page-37#post-84148669
Now that is a name I have not heard in a long, long time. I was an early Tapatalk user. Bought it when they had a paid version. Thought it was great. Since then, many forums have adopted a mobile view that is more than sufficient for light mobile use. Not quite as good as Tapatalk, though.
Tapatalk had two major issues before it started trying to swindle its own users. One, if you paid (them) for the app, they would stop serving ads from the forums, costing the forum operators money. Two, the forum owners had to install a Tapatalk backend onto their forum, and that always had issues. So forum owners were going out of their way to do something which not only did not benefit them, but it cost them money in ad revenue. Then Tapatalk started cheating its paid users by de-listing the paid app and pushing a freemium one in its place.
Tapatalk can take a flying leap.
That said, sad to see the XDA app that replaced it is not on the iOS App Store. While I still love Android in general, I'm an iPhone guy now. I used to be an iPhone hater, so it's kind of funny, but the whole smartphone wars thing was overblown, it was never really any good for anybody except the corporations, who loved it when people would swear off one brand, only to buy into another, and push the fanboys deeper into their trenches. Today, my tech loyalty is only to myself — that is, "what tech is best for me?". And, this year, a $250 iPhone SE 2020 was what was best for me. It's not the fastest or prettiest thing out there, but it does calls, texts, and music, which is all I really need anyway. (And I got the red one, so it's pretty damn sexy.) And it's an iPhone, so it's gonna get updates for five or six years, because that's how they roll. Still, I never got the hang of forums on phones, outside of Tapatalk, so, I'll probably stick to desktop usage regardless.
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Tapatalk integration has been removed. It won't work anymore. We have a new XDA app: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...rolling-out-now.4199599/page-37#post-84148669
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Nice , thanks
dragontology said:
Now that is a name I have not heard in a long, long time. I was an early Tapatalk user. Bought it when they had a paid version. Thought it was great. Since then, many forums have adopted a mobile view that is more than sufficient for light mobile use. Not quite as good as Tapatalk, though.
Tapatalk had two major issues before it started trying to swindle its own users. One, if you paid (them) for the app, they would stop serving ads from the forums, costing the forum operators money. Two, the forum owners had to install a Tapatalk backend onto their forum, and that always had issues. So forum owners were going out of their way to do something which not only did not benefit them, but it cost them money in ad revenue. Then Tapatalk started cheating its paid users by de-listing the paid app and pushing a freemium one in its place.
Tapatalk can take a flying leap.
That said, sad to see the XDA app that replaced it is not on the iOS App Store. While I still love Android in general, I'm an iPhone guy now. I used to be an iPhone hater, so it's kind of funny, but the whole smartphone wars thing was overblown, it was never really any good for anybody except the corporations, who loved it when people would swear off one brand, only to buy into another, and push the fanboys deeper into their trenches. Today, my tech loyalty is only to myself — that is, "what tech is best for me?". And, this year, a $250 iPhone SE 2020 was what was best for me. It's not the fastest or prettiest thing out there, but it does calls, texts, and music, which is all I really need anyway. (And I got the red one, so it's pretty damn sexy.) And it's an iPhone, so it's gonna get updates for five or six years, because that's how they roll. Still, I never got the hang of forums on phones, outside of Tapatalk, so, I'll probably stick to desktop usage regardless.
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Exactly my sentiment. I ditched the Android after more than 10 years... And for good now after getting tired of all the Samsung crap and constant lagging and planned obsolescence... And I'm quite happy with the iPhone despite being a real hater of Apple for the way they did things and their pricing. It seems they got beaten to it at last by Samsung. Anyway I loved Tapatalk for reading the XDA and commenting. And this move is kind of annoying especially as an app for XDA is missing on iOS. I guess I'll have to use the forum only on my PC from now on...
sabonev said:
Exactly my sentiment. I ditched the Android after more than 10 years... And for good now after getting tired of all the Samsung crap and constant lagging and planned obsolescence... And I'm quite happy with the iPhone despite being a real hater of Apple for the way they did things and their pricing. It seems they got beaten to it at last by Samsung. Anyway I loved Tapatalk for reading the XDA and commenting. And this move is kind of annoying especially as an app for XDA is missing on iOS. I guess I'll have to use the forum only on my PC from now on...
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XDA has been optimized for mobile and is excellent on Mobile browsers.