Third party launchers and 4xl gestures - Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers

I read several days ago about how the pixel 4/4xl already allows third party launchers to use the native gestures.
I also read that you need to have gestures enabled in order to utilize the new google assistant.
My question is has anyone that has received their new pixel used nova launcher (my all-time fave), enabled native gestures and was able to utilize the new google assistant?
My new 4xl is on a truck for delivery today and I'm pretty excited.
I'm coming from the 3xl so I know it's not a huge upgrade, but I think there's enough to make me happy with the decision.
TIA

It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.

Well, that's disappointing.
I'm certainly not interested in a third party gestures app in addition to a third party launcher.
Hopefully nova can update their app so I can use the native gestures while utilizing the new google assistant.
The new assistant is supposed to be awesome, so if nova can't do it right now, I'll be forced to stick with the pixel launcher, which would also be a little disappointing but would be necessary as I value the new assistant more at this point.
Thanks for the response.
phrozact said:
It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.
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Yeah ideally I'd rather not have to install additional programs if I can avoid it, but there was a notice within the Nova Launcher app saying it's beyond their control.
Anyway, maybe things might change when you receive your phone so no harm trying out for yourself. At least the stock launcher is still pretty decent.

phrozact said:
It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.
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Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe

So, have you actually done this and, more importantly, does the new assistant work with nova as your launcher?
spaceman860 said:
Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe
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bkrickles said:
So, have you actually done this and, more importantly, does the new assistant work with nova as your launcher?
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Yes, using nova and gestures and assistant works perfectly

spaceman860 said:
Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe
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Hmm...I stand corrected. Not sure why it didn't work when I tried earlier even though I specified Nova as my default, but thanks!

Thanks.
I know I did a duplicate post in the 4 and 4xl forums and appreciate the quick responses.
This is great news and I had not seen this particular question asked anywhere.
Good luck to all!

spaceman860 said:
Yes, using nova and gestures and assistant works perfectly
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I tried to use Nova with the new gestures on my Pixel 3 but Nova said that they can't support the new gestures due to Google not making it compatible with 3rd party launchers. Didn't try it on my pixel 4.
Maybe I missed something, how did you get it to work?

I switched to Nova as default and it worked fine. However, the smooth new app animations do not work or look like the pixel launcher animations. System animation in Nova is just the slide.

dhawalsinha said:
I tried to use Nova with the new gestures on my Pixel 3 but Nova said that they can't support the new gestures due to Google not making it compatible with 3rd party launchers. Didn't try it on my pixel 4.
Maybe I missed something, how did you get it to work?
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I had to set it to 3 button navigation, hit home and set nova the default launcher, then re-enable gesture nav. But it is working perfectly for me.

I'm using Nova and the gestures are working fine.
Only thing is can't get rid of the line on the bottom of the home page.

Nova and Action launcher both work fine for me on P4XL

dsmitty166 said:
Nova and Action launcher both work fine for me on P4XL
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Have you had any issues at all with Action Launcher? I tried using it and certain apps seemed to get stuck. It was very weird, like the app screen got set as the home screen - I could long press on the app screen and make home screen things happen. But I never could get back to actual home screen. I had to reboot.

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Have you had any issues at all with Action Launcher? I tried using it and certain apps seemed to get stuck. It was very weird, like the app screen got set as the home screen - I could long press on the app screen and make home screen things happen. But I never could get back to actual home screen. I had to reboot.
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I did not notice this, but I'm currently using Nova. I do know that you need to actually set the launcher as your default through the settings menu rather than through the launcher. That's the only way I could get it to reliably work.

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Custom Launcher bug in emui

I have searched about it a lot but couldn't find anything. Is there a way to fix recents app switcher animation on custom launcher. It's really annoying. Any method like using adb, etc?
I couldn't resolve with Nova but on Microsoft Launcher don't have the issue
Huawei P30 Pro (VOG-L29) using Tapatalk
I use gestures and have no issues with Nova.
carbonize said:
I use gestures and have no issues with Nova.
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Several times a day I had the error where swipe up gesture would get stuck showing the apps and the X and couldn't respond.
Changed to MS and don't have the issue.
I had it both with Nova as a fresh setup and restore from a backup, not sure what else to try to resolve it so changed launcher for now.
Huawei P30 Pro (VOG-L29) using Tapatalk
shaunydub said:
Several times a day I had the error where swipe up gesture would get stuck showing the apps and the X and couldn't respond.
Changed to MS and don't have the issue.
I had it both with Nova as a fresh setup and restore from a backup, not sure what else to try to resolve it so changed launcher for now.
Huawei P30 Pro (VOG-L29) using Tapatalk
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Was this the standard swipe up to open app drawer or a gesture you had assigned?
carbonize said:
Was this the standard swipe up to open app drawer or a gesture you had assigned?
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Standard swipe, only additional things I have is swipe up on folders to open certain apps so everything is based on EMUI gestures.
shaunydub said:
Standard swipe, only additional things I have is swipe up on folders to open certain apps so everything is based on EMUI gestures.
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Strange. I use the exact same set up with no problems at all.
Do you use gestures it on screen buttons for your phones navigation?
shaunydub said:
I couldn't resolve with Nova but on Microsoft Launcher don't have the issue
Huawei P30 Pro (VOG-L29) using Tapatalk
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I installed MS launcher still not fixed. I am talking about the animation when using gestures and using app switcher. It works fine on stock launcher but not on custom launcher.
carbonize said:
I use gestures and have no issues with Nova.
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gestures works fine but it's the animation when switching apps or going home.
Reeb_Lam said:
gestures works fine but it's the animation when switching apps or going home.
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Ah now I know what you're on about. Yes I get that sometimes, I just swipe back. It's hard to replicate and so infrequent I never put it down to just Nova even when I use Smart Launcher. I'll have to have a play then see if Kevin can't figure out the problem. Having said that in hoping to be on EMUI 10 soon. 7
Guys are you talking about something like this?
When i slide it for recent apps screen, right before showing apps preview, a plain white preview also shown.
So its seems like it flashes, not every time but mostly and its annoying. (There is video inside rar.)
madcapfrog said:
Guys are you talking about something like this?
When i slide it for recent apps screen, right before showing apps preview, a plain white preview also shown.
So its seems like it flashes, not every time but mostly and its annoying. (There is video inside rar.)
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Yes but also the animation of app switching. Like when you swipe for switching app, unlike in stock launcher where there is a transition to app switcher.
Reeb_Lam said:
Yes but also the animation of app switching. Like when you swipe for switching app, unlike in stock launcher where there is a transition to app switcher.
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I think, i didnt notice the problem with swipe, but even if i disable Nova Launcher and return back Emui, i have still the problem that i mention.
Probably its not caused because of 3.party launcher at least in my case, something else causing that.
Hi guys,
I have a same Bug. I found temporary solution in dev mode. I had all animations to value "0". I changed it to 0,5 and Bug dissappear.

Minor Issues with Nova + Gestures

I wanted to give the new Android 10 Gestures a try but I've noticed a couple of annoyances while using them with Nova. Not sure if these issues are Nova-specific, or third-party launcher-specific. I've only confirmed these issues on Nova,
1. If you swipe to go home and immediately try to tap on an app/folder, it won't work. Seems like you need to give it a second before touches register.
2. Swiping horizontally to switch between apps can sometimes stutter, and almost never works when on the home screen. I have the Nova Google Companion installed so I just end up swiping to that Google news feed.
Again, these are on the minor side, but not minor enough for me to tolerate and use Gestures. I'd appreciate if anyone could confirm this happens to them as well and / or have a workaround / fix!
It's a third party issue. Really annoying as I want folders in the drawer and the ability to hide apps, but it isn't as smooth as using the stock pixel launcher.
True I have had some minor issues as well but I think now that gestures are allowed with third party launchers nova team will tighten up the app to work better with them. Just have to wait for an update.
rickysidhu_ said:
I wanted to give the new Android 10 Gestures a try but I've noticed a couple of annoyances while using them with Nova. Not sure if these issues are Nova-specific, or third-party launcher-specific. I've only confirmed these issues on Nova,
1. If you swipe to go home and immediately try to tap on an app/folder, it won't work. Seems like you need to give it a second before touches register.
2. Swiping horizontally to switch between apps can sometimes stutter, and almost never works when on the home screen. I have the Nova Google Companion installed so I just end up swiping to that Google news feed.
Again, these are on the minor side, but not minor enough for me to tolerate and use Gestures. I'd appreciate if anyone could confirm this happens to them as well and / or have a workaround / fix!
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I'm using Nova and experience #1 from time to time. Not sure why it happens though.
When you open Nova setting right at the top it explains that gestures is not compatible with Android 10 for now.
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When you open Nova setting right at the top it explains that gestures is not compatible with Android 10 for now.
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Yeah that's wrong it's now compatible but only with pixel 4 and 4 xl I'm guessing that's why they leave that up there since you can use nova on any device. Ok so technically it's not wrong it only works on the 4. I still think it's just a matter of them fine tuning the gestures in their app hopefully they will do this sooner than later.
Thanks for the input guys, I didn't know Nova needed an update but I thought Google needed to continue refine support for third party launchers.
I agree though it's not as smooth as stock but I need folders in the app drawer and the app search widget in Nova is hard to go without now.
Hola
While I understand the ease of using native gesture settings, have you folks tried FNG as an alternative. Those issues that you listed drove me bonkers, that I switched over to FNG, a lot more controls, and so far a smoother experience.
QAM said:
Hola
While I understand the ease of using native gesture settings, have you folks tried FNG as an alternative. Those issues that you listed drove me bonkers, that I switched over to FNG, a lot more controls, and so far a smoother experience.
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Yeah I tried it but sometimes third party gestures can interfere with other apps (displaying on top of them).
It's a good app no doubt, but like you said, it's about the ease and seamlessness of using native gestures!

Question Do gestures work with 3rd party launchers on miui?

About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
shadow1000 said:
About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
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On MIUI, Gestures do not work with nova or any third party launcher.
but on AOSP custom roms works normally.
I very much doubt this is a bug. you are supposed to use the system launcher and consume the ads
cmmike1 said:
I very much doubt this is a bug. you are supposed to use the system launcher and consume the ads
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Well that is true, its just sad & pathetic, is there any way to circumvent this issue?
My guessing is, that Xiaomi disabled the android system gestures and has their own gestures implemented into the stock launcher. So removing the launcher, removes the gesture input.
Why I think that? Because #1, Xiaomi used to implement gesture navigation in miui even before Google implemented them in android. #2 the settings for gestures in miui 12 are inside the launcher menu.
I think that some kind of magisk module, which would enable/install the stock android gestures, would be possible.
shadow1000 said:
About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
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You can use full screen navigation launcher app. It works perfectly for me. Here is a video from youtube that helped me with that.
Cliffezaki said:
You can use full screen navigation launcher app. It works perfectly for me. Here is a video from youtube that helped me with that.
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This is one way to do it, but it gets annoying after a while as sometimes (i.e. pressing back rather than home, recent apps, a few other ways) will go back to the default launcher rather than the 3rd party launcher; also you are running two launchers all the time which isn't the best.
A better way is: set third party launcher + FNG, then use ADB to hide the navigation bar.
OakaO said:
This is one way to do it, but it gets annoying after a while as sometimes (i.e. pressing back rather than home, recent apps, a few other ways) will go back to the default launcher rather than the 3rd party launcher; also you are running two launchers all the time which isn't the best.
A better way is: set third party launcher + FNG, then use ADB to hide the navigation bar.
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How do you use adb to do that?
Cliffezaki said:
How do you use adb to do that?
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CUSTOM LAUNCHER GESTURES

Navigation gesture laggy with Nova Launcher

Hi,
I've read many things about that, but for me, colling from a Oneplus 9 pro, the problem is new...
I use nova launcher, and navigation gestures are so laggy...
Is the a way to solve that?
Same here, so laggy and can't seems to find a solution
There is no solution -- it's a known issue with 3rd party launchers that there's a delay on returning to home. Get the same on Lawnchair 12 a5, Nova7 and others.
500ms delay or so on returning home
I am coming from Xiaomi 11 Ultra, on Android 12 with Nova launcher and it is working fine there. I can also use Fluid Navigation Gesture.
Sad about the Oppo find x5, feels like a slower device because of this.
Read somewhere that said when returning, it would show recent items. If you go to Nova Settings, Home Screen, Scroll and set Transition effect to 'none', that gets rid of that
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Read somewhere that said when returning, it would show recent items. If you go to Nova Settings, Home Screen, Scroll and set Transition effect to 'none', that gets rid of that
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I can confirm this is not working. I'm using S21 Ultra and Nova 7.0.57.
I found something that could maybe help somebody else: it appears the issue with the home gesture only applies if you actually use the swipe up gesture.
I'm using Edge Gestures (app from Google Play, no root required) to swipe down from the sides to expand notifications. If I use this app to also invoke going back to Home (I'm using the swipe up gesture from the sides) the lagging issue does not occur.
I'm also using for all the other swipe left and right gestures, and it's great having to go back to Home in a snappy way at least for now.
nlvraghavendra said:
I can confirm this is not working. I'm using S21 Ultra and Nova 7.0.57.
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In fairness, this is an Oppo Find X5 Pro forum

Question Question regarding custom launchers

Hello, I just got me a Y700 yesterday and after updating to ZUI 14, I started having a annoying bug that I was wondering if it's my update that went bad or if someone else has it too. If I try to use a custom launcher, the swipe up action to go to home or open recent apps, the default launcher's icon bar appears partially but the action doesn't work. Only happens with custom launchers, on the default one the bar appears fully and doesn't block the gesture. Does anyone else have this problem? Just asking before I do a factory reset if it's a problem only with mine. Attaching video showing the behavior. Video showing the problem
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Hello, I just got me a Y700 yesterday and after updating to ZUI 14, I started having a annoying bug that I was wondering if it's my update that went bad or if someone else has it too. If I try to use a custom launcher, the swipe up action to go to home or open recent apps, the default launcher's icon bar appears partially but the action doesn't work. Only happens with custom launchers, on the default one the bar appears fully and doesn't block the gesture. Does anyone else have this problem? Just asking before I do a factory reset if it's a problem only with mine. Attaching video showing the behavior. Video showing the problem
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I have the global rom and I had issues with nova so I just use the stock launcher.
Yes, this tablet has issues with third party launchers -- any flavored Android ROM really starting Android 11. However the issues on this one is more pronounced since you are unable to use the swipe up to home gesture at all. Either stick to buttons or use the default launcher.
So I'm not sure if it's the rom or nova, but after flashing to the stock chinese rom, I can now use Nova launcher (beta) and it seems to function correctly.
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So I'm not sure if it's the rom or nova, but after flashing to the stock chinese rom, I can now use Nova launcher (beta) and it seems to function correctly.
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Is that with gesture controls?
scarbutt11 said:
Is that with gesture controls?
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I use the nav buttons, and it works fine.
ou2mame said:
I use the nav buttons, and it works fine.
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Ahh yeah that’s worked for me for a while with alternate launchers. The gesture controls makes that floating dock come up. I wonder if we can disable it somehow or disable the entire launcher?
scarbutt11 said:
Ahh yeah that’s worked for me for a while with alternate launchers. The gesture controls makes that floating dock come up. I wonder if we can disable it somehow or disable the entire launcher?
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Ahh yeah.. makes sense. With the nav buttons, there's a fourth button for the dock on the right hand side that you can't get rid of, whether you're using the stock launcher or a custom one. Not a big deal.
ou2mame said:
So I'm not sure if it's the rom or nova, but after flashing to the stock chinese rom, I can now use Nova launcher (beta) and it seems to function correctly.
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They (Lenovo) probably didn't modify the stock chinese ROM too much since AOSP doesn't have problems with custom launchers, or the Nova beta launcher took care of the issues.

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