P4XL - Low brightness + Forced 90hz = Severe crushed blacks and purple hue - Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers

UPDATE: Found a fix and hope it works for you guys too!
Forced 90hz is the way to go! Pixel 4 FTW!
1. Forced 90hz - ON
2. Ambient eq - ON/OFF (I have it ON but I heard some people turned it OFF and it fixed the black crush/purple hue. I tried it and it didn't fix anything for me
3. Always on display - MUST BE ON (I had this OFF before to save battery. This must be turned back on. I can replicate this every time, turn it off and the crushed black/purple hue appear, turn it on and the problem goes away.
Enjoy your P4 on 90hz always guys!
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I had my P4XL on forced 90hz the whole day. When night came my brightness was at around 30% and I noticed something was wrong with the screen. The default grey wallpaper was severely crushed, it looked more black than grey; youtube videos looked awful in darker scenes; my astro shots looked off, there was no transition in the night sky, it went from brighter areas to sudden pitch black.
I took out my P3XL to compare and it was significantly better! I knew this couldn't be right so I thought maybe I should try turning off the forced 90hz on my P4XL. Once it was off, the black crush was gone!
Is this meant to happen? Does higher refresh rates relate to brightness or has Google done something with it?
Here is a link to photos I took - P3XL VS P4XL forced 90hz (ON) & P3XL VS P4XL forced 90hz (OFF)
ttps://imgur.com/a/mS7yZ5o (i'm a junior member and can't post links, please add 'h' to the front)

I tried to replicate the problem on my pixel 4 xl and didn't have the same issue

I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made. Google then was aware of the issue with the panels and locked the higher refresh rate to the brightness levels. Google probably expected that the masses wouldn't dive into developer settings and force 90hz on. They probably also didn't expect many people to complain about 90hz barely kicking in unless you were running at a higher brightness % either. So I'm guessing their software update will lower the required brightness to trigger 90hz with Smooth Display activated and possibly increase the overall brightness of the display. The display is locked around 4xx nits while it's confirmed with auto brightness off that it can achieve over 600 + when playing HDR content. So it's probably just a first batch woes for Samsung and we got stuck with it unfortunately.

zetsumeikuro said:
I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made. Google then was aware of the issue with the panels and locked the higher refresh rate to the brightness levels. Google probably expected that the masses wouldn't dive into developer settings and force 90hz on. They probably also didn't expect many people to complain about 90hz barely kicking in unless you were running at a higher brightness % either. So I'm guessing their software update will lower the required brightness to trigger 90hz with Smooth Display activated and possibly increase the overall brightness of the display. The display is locked around 4xx nits while it's confirmed with auto brightness off that it can achieve over 600 + when playing HDR content. So it's probably just a first batch woes for Samsung and we got stuck with it unfortunately.
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I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.

cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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I really hope not

cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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The teardown from iFixit indicates that Samsung has manufactured the displays.

I noticed the same issue. White 4xl, I forced the 90hz and sometimes when I unlocked the phone at night low brightness the screen looks watched out, blacks look gray but then I locked the phone and open it again and I get the issue op is talking about. Very crushed blacks and colors are way off. I also have on the night light as well. I will test more today.

zetsumeikuro said:
The teardown from iFixit indicates that Samsung has manufactured the displays.
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Ok

cpatrick08 said:
I read somewhere that LG made the screens for the phones.
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It was about the smaller Pixel 4:
https://www.droid-life.com/2019/10/24/pixel-4-lg-display/

zetsumeikuro said:
I have this exact same issue and it has to do with the refresh rate being forced to 90hz as you said. My guess is if they are Samsung panels this would be their first 90hz panel and the P4 very well could be the guinea pig to see if they can create a solid 90hz panel? Then sadly they failed to deliver a solid product and it was already too late into production and all the panels have been made.
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Didn't Samsung make the panels for the 90h display for OnePlus 7 Pro? If so, they've been out for about six months and they are excellent panels!

rajeshr said:
Didn't Samsung make the panels for the 90h display for OnePlus 7 Pro? If so, they've been out for about six months and they are excellent panels!
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That was my thoughts, and yes they are Samsung ones. Barely any complaints about the OnePlus 7 pro. Flooding in for the pixel 4 already

Some people in reddit have had success turning off Always On Display, yes, not Ambient Display but AOD.
It makes no sense but it worked for them.

m+a+r+k said:
Some people in reddit have had success turning off Always On Display, yes, not Ambient Display but AOD.
It makes no sense but it worked for them.
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If you have forced 90hz you actually want to have AOD on and that will get rid of the purple/green tint for certain colors at lower brightness.

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Screen Flicker - Does anyone NOT have this?

So I'm debating RMA's the N7 I have with Google Play. I have a slight screen raise (this doesn't bother me too much) as well as screen flicker that I notice in low lighting situations (mostly in chrome and maps).
Does anyone NOT have screen flicker? Or is this a software issue?
Does anyone NOT have the slight screen raise?
Foxman2k said:
So I'm debating RMA's the N7 I have with Google Play. I have a slight screen raise (this doesn't bother me too much) as well as screen flicker that I notice in low lighting situations (mostly in chrome and maps).
Does anyone NOT have screen flicker? Or is this a software issue?
Does anyone NOT have the slight screen raise?
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Hey, I believe the screen flicker is due to the auto brightness function of the device.
I personally don't like auto brightness at all, try turning it off in the brightness menu and see if you still get that.
I see the flicker quite often with devices having that function turned on.
andyxover said:
Hey, I believe the screen flicker is due to the auto brightness function of the device.
I personally don't like auto brightness at all, try turning it off in the brightness menu and see if you still get that.
I see the flicker quite often with devices having that function turned on.
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Hmmmm well I guess the only thing I have to compare it to is my iPhone 4 which doesn't do this.
My eyes are usually sensitive enough to be annoyed by screen flicker in any respect. Certainly with overhead CFL lighting.
My 16GB Nexus 7 (2 days in my posession now) doe snot exhibit any sort of screen flicker whatsoever. This is in comparison side by side with my HTC Desire HD which also does not flicker.
The display actually has a very high quality feeling which I like.
EvilDeadFan said:
My eyes are usually sensitive enough to be annoyed by screen flicker in any respect. Certainly with overhead CFL lighting.
My 16GB Nexus 7 (2 days in my posession now) doe snot exhibit any sort of screen flicker whatsoever. This is in comparison side by side with my HTC Desire HD which also does not flicker.
The display actually has a very high quality feeling which I like.
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Thanks for the feedback. So even in low lighting conditions, with auto brightness set to on, and scrolling around in chrome / maps, you screen never flickers or sort of rapidly dims?
I've noticed it. Only on white web pages or books. Very slight. I had two HTC One Xs that both had it. Its a Tegra issue and doubt we will see a fix. Gutted.
Its not the whole screen. Noticeable around text especially. Some weird refresh prob. Left side of my screen is also slightly raised. Not happy.
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Arthur Hucksake said:
I've noticed it. Only on white web pages or books. Very slight. I had two HTC One Xs that both had it. Its a Tegra issue and doubt we will see a fix. Gutted.
Its not the whole screen. Noticeable around text especially. Some weird refresh prob. Left side of my screen is also slightly raised. Not happy.
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I definitely get it on the whole screen, maybe for a second or 2. Might do it 2-3 times per day at most.
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Happened to me, I just turned the auto brightness off and t was fine. Try it, it works.
I keep auto brightness disabled and I haven't noticed the flicker that I can remember but tonight I'll try to reproduce and check it both ways.
I disable auto brightness and use this app which is actually a widget. It allows you to UAW any edge on the screen as an invisible or barely visible slider for brightness. It allows for incremental 1% changes on a slider instead of the typical button/toggle widget and its always enabled if you set it that way which allows on the go ease of use no matter what app or screen is open.
Its helped me attain amazing battery life and always have quick access for setting it just right.
Play store - Display Brightness by RubberBigPepper
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rubberbigpepper.DisplayBrightness
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Neither issue here.
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No flicker......no raised screen.
No flicker here. Although I agree with disabling auto brightness, not a fan of the effect that can sometime have.
just recieved 2 nexus 7's today, so far my one (16gb) is PERFTCY *touches wood* this thing is so awsome!! not a thing wrong with it and was shipped from USA to south africa... My dads one on (8gb) the other hand had a raised screen on the left which he has absolutely no worries with its not that bad, but so far we loving this devices ))
Why a separate thread? There's already a long one on it that'll answer most of your questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29329145
kenyee said:
Why a separate thread? There's already a long one on it that'll answer most of your questions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29329145
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I understand that - I'm trying to gauge whether or not it affects ALL N7's, or is a defect.
Google Play is shipping me a replacement N7 to address the screen raise on my current one, and I want to make sure the replacement is 100% A-OK.
Foxman2k said:
I understand that - I'm trying to gauge whether or not it affects ALL N7's, or is a defect.
Google Play is shipping me a replacement N7 to address the screen raise on my current one, and I want to make sure the replacement is 100% A-OK.
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Make a poll if you're trying to do that.... But yes, I see flicker too, but only at very low backlight levels and seems to be when wifi is active. I haven't tested to see if it's just wifi, or wifi causing other things (disk activity, etc), but this is the general consensus so far in the other thread.

[Q] How bright is the screen?

I like every aspect of nexus 6
but i'm a bit worried about the brightness of the screen
since AMOLED are kind of infamous for not able to use outdoor
I'm guessing the screen will be similar to Moto X 2014
Anyone who own the phone, can you please share the experience for using the phone under bright sun?
MrHardplastic said:
I like every aspect of nexus 6
but i'm a bit worried about the brightness of the screen
since AMOLED are kind of infamous for not able to use outdoor
I'm guessing the screen will be similar to Moto X 2014
Anyone who own the phone, can you please share the experience for using the phone under bright sun?
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That's the important question. This year's AMOLED's (Galaxy S5, Note 4, Tab S) were very bright... but last year's AMOLED's (Galaxy S4).. not so much. Note 3 was fine however.
some review says moto X 2014 has poor outdoor visibility
and according to phonearena screen measurement, the moto X only has a maximum brightness of 385 nits
Now i'm seriously worried about the N6.....
I will accept anything higher than 450 nits, but 385 nits is just way too low
btw, I always never understood why maximum brightness is not part of the standard specs, it's an important factor, sometimes it's more important than pixel density or color saturation
While I will take all the brightness I can get, I have only struggled a few times with my S4 outdoors. I just don't use my phone all that much in full sunlight. Maybe check a football score during my kid's soccer game. Not exactly mission critical, but I guess it would be nice if it were easier. I certainly wouldn't give up the superior blacks the other 99.99% of the time. But given the awesome screens on the latest Samsungs, we should be able to have our cake and eat it, too.
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It's about this bright [emoji295]️[emoji295]️[emoji295]️
Its brightness is 270 nits (quite dim when you go by the numbers)
While its 850+ on my z3!
I guess I won't be selling my z3 for a n6 after all!
As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
gtalum said:
As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
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Very true. Amoled screen have very different reflective properties when compared to an LCD IPS screen. The outdoor viewing experience could and should actually be really good based on all the reviews.
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gtalum said:
As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
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scandalousk said:
Very true. Amoled screen have very different reflective properties when compared to an LCD IPS screen. The outdoor viewing experience could and should actually be really good based on all the reviews.
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Based on reviews the screen looks less vivid, less sharp and more dull than the Note 4. The visibility is less also; many reviewers claim the screen has great PPI but overall is not amazing. No surprises here - Samsung saves the best screens for themselves and everyone else gets rejects. For that reason I would've used an IPS display, like the iPhone 6+ (which has great visibility in sunlight, sharp and good colours).
spartanm99 said:
Based on reviews the screen looks less vivid, less sharp and more dull than the Note 4. The visibility is less also; many reviewers claim the screen has great PPI but overall is not amazing. No surprises here - Samsung saves the best screens for themselves and everyone else gets rejects. For that reason I would've used an IPS display, like the iPhone 6+ (which has great visibility in sunlight, sharp and good colours).
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If that's the case then Google clearly chose the ambient display (which requires amoled) over an IPS display. The note 4 arguably has the best screen in the world and we don't don't know if Google could get their hands on the iPhone 6 display. Maybe they tried and still couldn't get it.
Google can still calibrate the display properly. We'll just have to wait and see.
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scandalousk said:
If that's the case then Google clearly chose the ambient display (which requires amoled) over an IPS display. The note 4 arguably has the best screen in the world and we don't don't know if Google could get their hands on the iPhone 6 display. Maybe they tried and still couldn't get it.
Google can still calibrate the display properly. We'll just have to wait and see.
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We can also, you know...Make calibrations ourselves as well once Custom Kernels make their rounds..
If colour reproduction is an issue we should have little to worry if we can modify it in due time.
Here's how to find out - go look at one yourself before purchase.
darkrai said:
Its brightness is 270 nits (quite dim when you go by the numbers)
While its 850+ on my z3!
I guess I won't be selling my z3 for a n6 after all!
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You are going to have to post a source for that, because I dont believe the Z3 has 850nit brightness at all. A quick Google search showed nothing of the sort either.
EniGmA1987 said:
You are going to have to post a source for that, because I dont believe the Z3 has 850nit brightness at all. A quick Google search showed nothing of the sort either.
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http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p3.php
Go to display section
As a Nexus 4 user, i really love this screen! Its screen colors are like bundis ip5 profile (screen color tuning) with even more whiter whites and superb brightness!
Google for nexus 6
Had to search a lot for nexus 6's
Dr Faustus said:
We can also, you know...Make calibrations ourselves as well once Custom Kernels make their rounds..
If colour reproduction is an issue we should have little to worry if we can modify it in due time.
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i am happy this was answered so i didn't have to make a post just to make sure. i know i have options for dpi and auto brighness controls on my gs2. but i have to wonder why they set it so low in the first place? was it for battery savings? is it because the reflectivity is so good that it didn't need to be higher? is it because it will burn out the organics? if the gs3, 290 nits, was good enough to see outside then i guess this one will be also. it just sucks that it is so low. and i don't know if i would want to trust a kernel that raised it.
darkrai said:
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p3.php
Go to display section
As a Nexus 4 user, i really love this screen! Its screen colors are like bundis ip5 profile (screen color tuning) with even more whiter whites and superb brightness!
Google for nexus 6
Had to search a lot for nexus 6's
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Sony smarthones have the worst display ever. turn off bravia engine (contrast and vivid) and you will love motorola 720i ;P
PhoneArena state the Nexus 6 is 270nits.
& the Nexus 5 is 485nits
Yet, I'm pretty sure we've seen both phones on Max brightness next to each other with the Nexus 6 being brighter.
In fact, every video I've seen with both the Nexus 6 & Note 4 has shown the Nexus to have the brighter screen with much better whites.
.....explain!?
chrisjcks said:
brighter screen with much better whites.
.....explain!?
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Much better whites? Yes I think so. Brighter? Where on earth did you see it brighter than note 4? Please share a link?
Thanks
plasmastate said:
Much better whites? Yes I think so. Brighter? Where on earth did you see it brighter than note 4? Please share a link?
Thanks
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Every video I've seen with both phones together.
If the Nexus 6 is supposed to only be 270nits, how is this possible?
I've also seen an image of the Nexus 5 & 6 together on Max brightness with the 6 being brighter.
Nexus 5 is 485 nits so PhoneArenas 270nits claim makes no sense at all.
Even in PhoneArenas own video, the Nexus looks brighter than the Note 4, easily visible during browsing & the video benchmark etc.
Google Nexus 6 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 4: http://youtu.be/afOEn-zm_y0
It's funny because when I was playing with the Note 4 in a Sprint store I was surprised to learn that the screen was at full brightness. It didn't seem all that bright to me.

How is the screen quality?

In some reviews I’ve watched/read the reviewer has said that the v40 screen is nice but not as good as a Samsung s9 plus or note 9. If anyone has been able to compare I would like to know your opinion on this.
Easily the best screen LG has ever released. I find it pretty comparable to the S9 and Note. In the settings there are a ton of fine-tuning options for the screen including color saturation, so you can tweak the levels to your liking.
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I agree, when i watch PLEX at home without transcoding i find myself thinking that this looks better than my IPS monitors..
How is a brightness level comparing to Note 9 and G7?
I will say this, my wife has a Pixel 3 which has been found to have a Samsung screen, and I prefer my screen. Not only do we get total control of tuning color, but whites look more white on my LG.
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How is a brightness level comparing to Note 9 and G7?
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I have not compared it side-by-side with a Note 9, but from memory, I would say it is certainly at least equal. I did compare it with the G7 while in the store, and it seemed to be noticably brighter, not to mention FAR better looking. Its AMOLED is way better looking than the standard LCD in the G7, and leaps and bounds better than the disappointing V30 AMOLED.
Thx for your information. Did you compare the G7 with or without brightness boost?
I'm living in FL, therefore screen brightness is an issue for me.
I answer my own question: G7 display in boost mode is brighter than V40 display.
I have both testing out v40 before I have to give my note in for jump even tho I love the note 9 imma keep the v40 it wont let me post pics from mobile app I'll try from web
How's the grains on the screen? Any unevenness?
20degrees said:
How's the grains on the screen? Any unevenness?
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I don't detect any grains on the screen nor any unevenness. It definitely does not have any of the issues some V30s had.
psawjack said:
I don't detect any grains on the screen nor any unevenness. It definitely does not have any of the issues some V30s had.
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Thanks for the reply. I may pick one of these up.
I prefer it (slightly) over the Note 9.
Spent 4 hours in the store comparing them side-by-side, option to option. Both (and Pixel 3+) are very good, but "to me" the Note 9 seems "brightly" ... (which is my term for it seems to be 'backlit') whereas the V40 looks more natural. The differences are very slight and of course to my preference as my favorite salesperson at the store prefers the 'brightly' screen of the Note 9.
I think they're so close that it's really only a matter of personal preference.
SaintlySins said:
I prefer it (slightly) over the Note 9.
Spent 4 hours in the store comparing them side-by-side, option to option. Both (and Pixel 3+) are very good, but "to me" the Note 9 seems "brightly" ... (which is my term for it seems to be 'backlit') whereas the V40 looks more natural. The differences are very slight and of course to my preference as my favorite salesperson at the store prefers the 'brightly' screen of the Note 9.
I think they're so close that it's really only a matter of personal preference.
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What about "black crush"? and uniformity of dark grey at lowest brighness levels which V30 was mostly bashed for?
Billy Madison said:
What about "black crush"? and uniformity of dark grey at lowest brighness levels which V30 was mostly bashed for?
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If you're being funny, it's a hysterical question ... as when I imagine the test, or even the rational for such a test, I start laughing.
If you're being serious, I don't mean to sound condescending ...
... but I don't know how to entertain the question, as anyone bashing Black, Gray, White or colors at lowest brightness is on a fool's errand.
My imagination:
(... Hey Watson; let's turn down the wattage to the lowest it'll go and still produce an image then find fault with color saturation and separation!
But Inspector, at the lowest wattage certain color separations become too muted to differentiate, especially darker ones.
Yet there are a few that will make a rediculous argument just to keep their post count up, so let's get to work! ) LOLOL. Not pointing that at you Billy Madison, rather the fact that was really an argument, let alone a discussion.
In as serious an answer as I can give ... At 75% to 100% (or even 50%, which is about where I keep my phones the majority of times), the phone was significantly better than my V20 or V30.
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If you're being funny, it's a hysterical question ... as when I imagine the test, or even the rational for such a test, I start laughing.
If you're being serious, I don't mean to sound condescending ...
... but I don't know how to entertain the question, as anyone bashing Black, Gray, White or colors at lowest brightness is on a fool's errand.
My imagination:
(... Hey Watson; let's turn down the wattage to the lowest it'll go and still produce an image then find fault with color saturation and separation!
But Inspector, at the lowest wattage certain color separations become too muted to differentiate, especially darker ones.
Yet there are a few that will make a rediculous argument just to keep their post count up, so let's get to work! ) LOLOL. Not pointing that at you Billy Madison, rather the fact that was really an argument, let alone a discussion.
In as serious an answer as I can give ... At 75% to 100% (or even 50%, which is about where I keep my phones the majority of times), the phone was significantly better than my V20 or V30.
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I don't get why you find it a fool's errand. No one is expecting any screen to be the same at lowest brightness levels as it is at say 50-100%, but there are plenty of cases where a user might be using it at the lowest setting: movie theatre before the film starts, before bed in a dark room, outdoors at night, in a car at night, etc. Not everyone likes to have their phone very bright, especially in dark settings.
I personally have my phone at lowest setting at night—I tend to have my screen brightness significantly lower than my wife's phone and most people I know. I guess I have light sensitive eyes, and I'm sure there are others like that. It's not just to nitpick phone screens in less than optimal use cases.
Anyway, I think it'd be good to know what the screen is like at lowest brightness as well since I plan on getting this phone in the next couple months.
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I don't get why you find it a fool's errand. No one is expecting any screen to be the same at lowest brightness levels as it is at say 50-100%, but there are plenty of cases where a user might be using it at the lowest setting: movie theatre before the film starts, before bed in a dark room, outdoors at night, in a car at night, etc. Not everyone likes to have their phone very bright, especially in dark settings.
I personally have my phone at lowest setting at night—I tend to have my screen brightness significantly lower than my wife's phone and most people I know. I guess I have light sensitive eyes, and I'm sure there are others like that. It's not just to nitpick phone screens in less than optimal use cases.
Anyway, I think it'd be good to know what the screen is like at lowest brightness as well since I plan on getting this phone in the next couple months.
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I knew I'd upset someone with that post ... again, it's not an attack on anyone in particular.
I too turn my screen down quite low, (never minimum) ... but it's far from even 1% of use and such a infinately miniscule use that at those low wattages expecting great color separation in dark colors seems (to me) laughable.
I'm sorry if speaking my truth offends ... it's only an opinion ... and you know what they say about opinions... they're like butt holes; everyone has them and they both stink.
Sorry if mine stinks.
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I knew I'd upset someone with that post ... again, it's not an attack on anyone in particular.
I too turn my screen down quite low, (never minimum) ... but it's far from even 1% of use and such a infinately miniscule use that at those low wattages expecting great color separation in dark colors seems (to me) laughable.
I'm sorry if speaking my truth offends ... it's only an opinion ... and you know what they say about opinions... they're like butt holes; everyone has them and they both stink.
Sorry if mine stinks.
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I'm not upset or offended, your post was just very unhelpful in regards to the previous question, and unnecessarily snarky. Even if it's not a usual use case, that's what Billy was asking.
V30 had horrible graininess, banding, and color shifting, especially at low/minimum brightness settings in many units. I don't see what the issue is with asking if V40 fairs better. Especially since currently it is their flagship device and asking for around $900 for it. The display should at least be serviceable at all brightness levels without any major defects.
@Billy Madison from what I have read and seen in videos, the screen issues seem to have been fixed, but I too would like some further confirmation as to screen quality at low/minimum brightness levels. From what I can tell, it should be fine which is a large reason why I plan on getting this over the V30 even if the V30 at this point is basically half the price. But hopefully more people on XDA can advise whether they experience any issues at these brightness levels.
If there is a difference I don't see it.
Id say the screen is pretty darn good,especially at low light settings when its dark...the most uniform screen ive seen before. Much better than the wife's Note 9.
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Easily the best LG screen i've used, much better than what I saw on the old G Flex 2 and V30 in store. Zero uniformity issues from what I can tell and very similar to my note 9, minus some brightness and maybe some saturation.

Regarding the display pixel density on the P30 Pro

Hey guys,
I just came back from my local shop where I was playing for a couple of minutes with the P30 Pro.
Excellent device, with its falls too - at least for me.
I found the display resolution to be not as what I was expecting or used to in the 2019. To be honest, I could easily see the pixels in the screen, something that I didn't notice on S10+. Of course, the ppi are different, but the differnce is almost a deal breaker for me, but I can't digest that the texts were not as sharp/crisp I was expecting for a 1000 Euros device.
Also, I compared the display with the P30, with the P30 to be the clear winner between this and the Pro.
Am I losing something? Like probably a device setting that caused this "pixelated" display?
Or is it just me?
I am having difficulties valuing this phone at 1000 with that display...
Thank you
There is an option to "smartly" reduce the resolution of the screen to safe power.
I think that this was enabled, as it is by default, and that the phone was running on the lower resolution.
I have no problems with the screen resolution (P30 Pro).
Compared with my Oneplus 6t.
HellStorm666 said:
There is an option to "smartly" reduce the resolution of the screen to safe power.
I think that this was enabled, as it is by default, and that the phone was running on the lower resolution.
I have no problems with the screen resolution (P30 Pro).
Compared with my Oneplus 6t.
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Thank you for your answer. Is there any chance to check your screen resolution on settings and let me know which resolution was default when you received the phone?
Punkisn said:
Thank you for your answer. Is there any chance to check your screen resolution on settings and let me know which resolution was default when you received the phone?
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Sure.
1560x720 as low and 2340x1080 as high.
Phone will switch between it automatically, by default.
You can select either of them as fixed value.
HellStorm666 said:
Sure.
1560x720 as low and 2340x1080 as high.
Phone will switch between it automatically, by default.
You can select either of them as fixed value.
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Thanks again. I will visit my local shop tomorrow (hopefully) to check this setting because I forgot to do it today. To be honest I was super surprised of what I saw in terms of display, in a bad way.
I will update this thread as soon as possible.
Wow really, I would consider the 1080p as low already and they but in an even lower mode.

Question Green tint ? Lolz

Just wondering if the green tint issue synonymous on Samsung 2020 panels has continued its trend onto the S21U? Asking for a mate.
Limeybastard said:
Just wondering if the green tint issue synonymous on Samsung 2020 panels has continued its trend onto the S21U? Asking for a mate.
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Hi.
Haven't noticed any green tinting on my panel yet. Even on the lowest brightness. There is a teeny tiny smidge of motion smearing at the minimum brigntness when scrolling dark web-pages, but that's about the only fault I can find with the screen so far.
enigmaamit said:
Hi.
Haven't noticed any green tinting on my panel yet. Even on the lowest brightness. There is a teeny tiny smidge of motion smearing at the minimum brigntness when scrolling dark web-pages, but that's about the only fault I can find with the screen so far.
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That’s good to know. Thanks.
Limeybastard said:
Just wondering if the green tint issue synonymous on Samsung 2020 panels has continued its trend onto the S21U? Asking for a mate.
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I had the S20 (6 different devices). All had a green/red tint issue. The S21 Ultra has a much better display. Mine at least.
iamnotkurtcobain said:
I had the S20 (6 different devices). All had a green/red tint issue. The S21 Ultra has a much better display. Mine at least.
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Yeah. One of my Note 20 Ultras was more green tintish than the other. I couldn’t stand it, the Oneplus 8 pro also had it slightly. As did the iPhone 12 Pro Max. Thanks for sharing your experience.
adamlee2012 said:
You can change the colour temperature anyway under display settings. If you get a display with green tint just turn down the green and up the red.
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Cheers. It didn’t quite work that way in practice.
I had the screen show a like a green background for split second , does this mean the screen is starting to get faulty or is it a software issue? I had this phone since launch (for about 4 months now)
oae08 said:
I had the screen show a like a green background for split second , does this mean the screen is starting to get faulty or is it a software issue? I had this phone since launch (for about 4 months now)
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If it was a one-time occurence, it could be due to anything. Difficult to diagnose it based on a split-second incidence. If it doesn't happen again, don't worry about it. But if the same issue keeps occuring, then it may be worthwhile investigating.
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If it was a one-time occurence, it could be due to anything. Difficult to diagnose it based on a split-second incidence. If it doesn't happen again, don't worry about it. But if the same issue keeps occuring, then it may be worthwhile investigating.
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Its a one-time thing for now, but it got me scared. especially since I am currently having another issue with the phone (its crashing and rebooting randomly).
oae08 said:
Its a one-time thing for now, but it got me scared. especially since I am currently having another issue with the phone (its crashing and rebooting randomly).
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I saw your post in the other thread. This wouldn't have been a cause of concern in isloation but if you add your reports of system crashes and erratic behaviour, there may be something serious wrong with your phone under the surface. Would'nt be the first time this has happened to someone (at least not me).
This is exactly the kind of situation warranty is for.
I cannot profess to know what you should do next but i can only tell you what I would do faced with your situation. And that is to head to the nearest service centre and explain the issue and ask for a resolution. If that fails, escalate it upwards.
Looks like I jinxed myself by creating this post before receiving my device. Since I got it yesterday it has a very aggressive green to pink tint when slightly tilting the viewing the angel. I sent it back. The lord taketh away green tint and replaced it with this LOLzzz.

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