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Slight screen flicker?

I have a nook color, I was wondering if anyone notices a very slight screen flicker like a low refresh rate? Most people would not notice. It doesn't bother me much but I wanted to see if its normal. I notice it most on a dark grey background at 50 percent or lower brightness.
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Yes! finally someone that notices it! I have been posting this on other forums. I notice it too on dark backgrounds with about 20-40% brightness, Not sure if it can ever be fixed with an update, but it is sometimes annoying, although not highly noticeable.

I have worked with computer enough that I can tell the refresh rate of a crt just by looking at it. If its normal I am not to worried I justed wanted to know if it was defective because ill switch it out before I root it.
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I get the same thing, very noticeable when you are changing the brightness setting. I use the lowest brightness to read an eBook, and I can really notice the flicker when I lower the brightness, but I can notice it when I get back to the reading screen.

I see it on darker images...its so subtle I ignore it.
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I still have mine stock... but I see it as well.
Anyone that has loaded any other apps notice it in those apps? i.e. does it flicker noticably in Angry Birds? or other apps?
thanks.
J

I wonder if it being an IPS screen has anything to do with it. It doesnt bother me to much but causes more eye strain than reading from my htc g2. You would think they would make sure an ebook reader doesnt flicker. oh well i can deal with it.

sdelcegno said:
I wonder if it being an IPS screen has anything to do with it. It doesnt bother me to much but causes more eye strain than reading from my htc g2. You would think they would make sure an ebook reader doesnt flicker. oh well i can deal with it.
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It's not the screen, per se, but the LED's that are lighting it up. From what I've read, LED's can't vary output with respect to voltage (they're not dimmable), so you have to pulse them very fast to change the output. I assume that the lower the "level" the more the LED is off vs. on, hence the flicker.
Dang I can't post links yet...
Go to Wikipedia, and look for :
/wiki/Backlight#Flicker_due_to_backlight_dimming
I'm pretty sensitive to this, but haven't noticed it on my iPad, but apparently it does it as well. I was wondering why the stock lowest brightness levels were so friggin' bright - probably at the threshold of flicker. You can dim more in a browser or ebook app, which is where I see reports of flicker.
Go to Discussions dot apple dot com
/thread.jspa?threadID=2398784
Another reason why I like my old CCFL IPS 12" ThinkPad X32!
-Dan

While you can dim an LED by limiting the current (either via inline resistors or with constant current drivers), you can only do so to a degree. Below a certain current, they will simply not light even though the current goes through the LED. On high performance LED's this is still at a pretty bright level. So instead you use PWM (Pulse Width Modulation) and vary the duty cycle to brighten and dim the LED. As the PWM is at a fixed frequency, with more or less of the cycle being lit or unlit, once the unlit portion becomes substantially longer than the Lit part, you can detect the "Flicker" if you are sensitive to it. This is usually particularly noticeable in the "corner of the eye" if you pan you vision across the area and the device gets paned across you field of vision.
This is done on all the new LED tail lights on cars as well and I hate seeing them at night, when they are almost making me nauseous from the flicker.

Good info thanks. Makes sense but wonder why I don't notice on my led backlit netbook. Guess every screen is different.

yea I really wish there was an update to fix this, but i guess it's just the screen, funny how I have never noticed this on any LCD screen I have ever had from computer to TV

three nook colors - my experience with flicker
My first nookColor had screen flicker, also a mind of its own with phantom taps. Nook #2. Did not have noticeable screen flicker but did have a handful of stuck pixels. Took it back and picked up #3. No stuck pixels, but I've got screen flicker on dark colors. Find it strange that nook #2 didn't have te problem with the flicker. I don't like the flicker at all but think it may be timento live with it.

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Has any one returned a flikering nook color and gotten a better one in return?

Hello, I am having a similar problem with angry birds. My screen sometimes will flash different colors and today the screen stayed completely red for 2 or 3 seconds while playing the game. But other than that I love the rooted nook color. Maybe the graphics chip is not powerful enough for this game.

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What you described with angry birds is not the problem I am having. Mine is screen flicker. My eye can basically detect the refresh rate with low brightness or in darker colors.
Tried to change it out. Would say that Best Buy is much easier to exchange things at than Barnes & Noble. Eventually they switched mine out and the new one had a dead pixel. They then let me open two more in store in the store all had dead pixels, so did their display model. All presented in the lower right hand corner of the screen. Would be covered up by the black menu bar normally, but visible when the black menu bar goes away.
Anyway I kept my flickering nook, and talked to someone at Barnes and Noble tech support on the phone. He told me the dead pixels were new to him, but they knew about screen flicker issues. He said they would be releasing a firmware update to address this and other problems very soon.
Just wanted to note that none of these nook colors were rooted.

Yes, same here, I have that on my Witstech A81 (resistive screen) too, more noticeable when the battery level drops. Never noticed this problem on my iPhones or iPad though...can't be Android related can it?

glacon said:
What you described with angry birds is not the problem I am having. Mine is screen flicker. My eye can basically detect the refresh rate with low brightness or in darker colors.
Tried to change it out. Would say that Best Buy is much easier to exchange things at than Barnes & Noble. Eventually they switched mine out and the new one had a dead pixel. They then let me open two more in store in the store all had dead pixels, so did their display model. All presented in the lower right hand corner of the screen. Would be covered up by the black menu bar normally, but visible when the black menu bar goes away.
Anyway I kept my flickering nook, and talked to someone at Barnes and Noble tech support on the phone. He told me the dead pixels were new to him, but they knew about screen flicker issues. He said they would be releasing a firmware update to address this and other problems very soon.
Just wanted to note that none of these nook colors were rooted.
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Thanks. I can see the flicker too on gray screens. I have no other issues though (minus a tiny, tiny bit of give on the bottom bezel). I'll wait and hope it gets fixed in an update. I don't have a lot of time to keep exchanging a good unit.

If it is a known issue and a firmware fix is planed, then I am content with my rooted nook. Thanks for this thread.

I took mine back to B&N today to see if replacing it would fix it. Both store displays didn't have any flicker.
They opened two different nooks and they did the same flickering thing.
So I called Nook technical support. He put me on hold for about 5 minutes. He said he checked about 5 nooks and they all flickered. But he hadn't noticed it before.
So, he will put a ticket into the development team to have it looked at.
So, another confirmation that Nook tech support is aware and looking into it.

My first Nook did not display this behavior. I returned it due to creaking issues, and the replacement did display screen flicker.
I'm hoping it's a firmware issue and not a hardware one!
Currently not a big deal though...

[Q] Random Dimming and Heavy Greenish Tint Issues?

Hello all. So I LOVE my Samsung Focus S that I purchased shortly after Thanksgiving Day...all except for one problem. My phone seems to dim permanently out of no where and nothing I do will correct it back to it's normal brightness except for restarting the phone. Automatic Brightness is off and the "Auto Display Intensity" in the Extra Settings category is off. Now I don't know if this is something that specific to Windows Phone or Samsung Focus S particularly? I'm going to take a guess and say it's on the Samsung Focus S that exhibits this behavior. I also can't figure out if it's a hardware failure or a software failure. I'm beginning to think it's a specific update that is used to update your "Extra Settings". I don't know at this point. I just want to know if others have this problem.
The 2nd issue is not so much a problem now but a concern. My first Focus S had a VERY HEAVY greenish tint to it that was immediately noticeable at the lightest of viewing angles. To give you an example of how bad it was, my buddy was looking at a picture of oranges he took with his iPhone4, I thought they were lemons from the side. I went to an ATT store near me and noticed the Galaxy S II exhibited this behavior as well but the Focus S on display did not. I quickly concluded it was a defective screen as it was REALLY noticeable. My buddy gave me a call and told me he was at an ATT store across town and noticed it on another Galaxy S II as well. I made the employee take out two brand new Focus S' and chose the best looking one. They both looked identical, although the one on display had an edge over all of them. Thing is, ALL of the ones I've seen have a very slight green/blue tint to them. Is this normal with Super AMOLED Plus? Is this the Gorilla Glass Coating? I love the colors and contrast on this phone but to be honest the brightness and viewing angle leave something to be desired, more-so the viewing angle. Sorry for the long post!

I just looked at some pictures of oranges to test this. They look nice and orange do me. at an angle the entire screen starts to lose its pop. But I would not call it green more so just dimmer. Can't complain with the blacks...if only more sites background was black lol.

at an angle the entire screen starts to lose its pop.
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Would you mind doing me a favor and looking at different viewing angles on a predominantly white screen? Every phone loses it's composure a bit as the viewing angle is more and more off but I've never seen them turn a different hue. Dim a bit like you said? Yes. I looked online to see if anyone else notices this bluish/greenish tint and many do but more notice it on the AMOLED screen though a few did complain about the Super AMOLED Plus. Thank you!

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Ive been running the focus s since it came out and never noticed this "tint" issue...till today. a simple image of pure white, when viewed from above is fine, but as you change the view angle so does the white begin fade into the bluish haze.
now youre all probably going to hate me but i have a titan too. when i pull the exact same image, it does not fade into blue haze. my suspicion is one of two thoughts: a) the super amoled screen samsung uses has this side effect. b) the glass samsung uses creates this effect.
personally its not a deal breaker for me as i really enjoy the clarity of images and color the samgsung has to offer. that said, the titans inability to go true black are more noticable than a slightly bluish white. but thats purely personal prefence.
FWIW, ive tested red, green, and blue matching images. the only difference i see between the two is a decreased viewing angle on the thc in all aspects. screen display differences is the likely cause.

I can see the blue/green from those angles on white screens
kinda ugly actually
still a few days left to return and get the titan....

now youre all probably going to hate me but i have a titan too. when i pull the exact same image, it does not fade into blue haze. my suspicion is one of two thoughts: a) the super amoled screen samsung uses has this side effect. b) the glass samsung uses creates this effect.
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It's good to see you have a Titan. The Titan is a pretty nice phone. Viewing angles seem quite good and the whites are SUPER bright. It's just the colors and blacks that suffer. Nice to know you can compare them though.
I can see the blue/green from those angles on white screens
kinda ugly actually
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Hey Alright, I'm not crazy. Heh. I'm going to run to a couple of more ATT stores and see what their display units look like. My buddy just got a GSII and he says he doesn't see it, so I'm going to investigate it as well.
BTW, I spoke to someone at Samsung online and he seemed to think it was "normal" and was caused by a Super AMOLED Plus characteristic. Unfortunately I didn't believe a lick he was telling me.
I'm off to find the perfect display! Wish me luck.

i went back to the store
they want to charge me $35 to restock what I have ^^ - and cant seemed to be talked out of it....
the display Focus S had the same exact issues
as does the GSII/SkyRocket from what I could tell
the Titan's whites make the Focus S whites looks blue - but the Focus S blacks look the Titans blacks look grey
and the color palettes are so radically different - for themes the green on the Titan looks like the lime on the Focus S, and the Titan has nothing that can compare to the green on the Focus S - its ridiculous the difference in the saturation and vividness - I can see what people say about the Titan producing more realistic images - but at the end of the day for most things the Focus S is just better looking, who cares if its accurate?
i imagine using the Titan for a while you would get used to it, but side by side it looks paltry in comparison
to be honest the iPhone display looked pretty good! - just too damned small after using a 4"+ sized display - I could never use something that small after using what I have

So I went to ABT Electronics today and looked at their Focus S. It's funny, all of these places, including the Apple store choose the most PERFECT displays they can find in their inventory to show to the public, when in reality your results can vary greatly. For example, the Focus S at ABT had a whiter/bluer screen than mine in terms of whites. It wasn't a huge difference but it was noticeable. Now I want a new whiter screen. My screen seemed buttery compared to the one I saw. We'll see how successful I am. I know I may sound picky but if I'm going to keep this phone for the next 2 years, I want it to look the way I want it.
I also checked out others with the same 4.3" Super AMOLED Plus and I didn't really see much of a green tint to them. In fact one looked yellowish directly and turned whitish on the side. Weird.

OLEd is still a newer technology, compared to LCD - guess there are still some kinks to work out

Yeah, a problem with AMOLED is a slight bluish hint but I don't believe the screen is a PenTile one.
The dimming has been a bit aggressive, I just usually cover the proximity sensor with my hand and let it work again.
Has anyone noticed a flicker (then on) when you unlock the Focus S screen? Sometimes the screen instantly brings up the lock screen sometimes a second after the flicker.

Alright guys. Back to one of the original topics of the Focus S randomly dimming? I think I figured it out. My phone is over heating and the phone is dimming to try and cool it down. No error messages of overheating or anything. I noticed it today when I was playing games on my phone while charging. My phone was pretty warm. Now up until this point, my phone had not dimmed randomly for a week or so, but this morning? BOOM. Dimmed on me. So it hit me. Screen Dimming + Warm Phone = Overheating. I put the phone down on the cold floor to cool down for 10 minutes. Turn the screen back on and guess what? Original Brightness is back.
Either I exchange my phone again or return it all together. I'm in a bind because I can't get the HTC Titan for the same price I got the Focus S for (Free with No Activation).
Has anyone noticed a flicker (then on) when you unlock the Focus S screen? Sometimes the screen instantly brings up the lock screen sometimes a second after the flicker.
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I have not noticed this at all.

i am in the same boat
almost potentially worthwhile holding out for a Nokia set (perhaps the 900/850)
i actually think I will keep the Focus S to be honest with you
in a year or a year and a half, call up Att and see what they will work for me if I really want to - I have heard lots of success stories about calling them up and getting very discounted phones deals
after revisiting the store - the titan screen looks like **** (IMO except for the whites) compared to the Focus S - and its just too damned big - the Focus S IMO is the perfect size
and all the Android GUI overlays suck ass - so no way I get a droid - and I will certainly not pay $100 for a year old iPhone.

**this fixed mine** random dimming and tinting
Don't throw anything because I just skimmed over the thread before I am responding. I have the Focus S and had that problem. I corrected it by going to "settings>extra settings" and turning off the "Auto Display Intensity" to make it stop adjusting. Unfortunately, that setting defaults to "On" every time the device is restarted. So you have to remember to turn it off. Maybe everybody thought of this, already, and your device does this, anyway, but mine is perfect with this setting off. So, I hope this helps!
matt

livejazz said:
Don't throw anything because I just skimmed over the thread before I am responding. I have the Focus S and had that problem. I corrected it by going to "settings>extra settings" and turning off the "Auto Display Intensity" to make it stop adjusting. Unfortunately, that setting defaults to "On" every time the device is restarted. So you have to remember to turn it off. Maybe everybody thought of this, already, and your device does this, anyway, but mine is perfect with this setting off. So, I hope this helps!
matt
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I had to use the option in the "Brightness" page under Settings. The option on the Extra Settings page applies only when it is set to a white background.
Hopefully a future update will address this and improve the auto dimming. For now, though, it's set to bright all the time.

U only need to press the power button to let the phone go to sleep, then press power button again and almost immediately the custom brightness u set will be back.
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Well the dimming issue hasn't happened to me in quite a while now. I decided to keep the phone. The fact that the display wasn't perfect wasn't enough to make me want to return the phone, especially since I got it for free with no activation fee on a 2 year contract. In the meanwhile, I'm just enjoying it. Funny though, Now that I've got a 4.3" screen, I want MORE. Bring on the 4.7"!

Jibberish18 said:
Well the dimming issue hasn't happened to me in quite a while now. I decided to keep the phone. The fact that the display wasn't perfect wasn't enough to make me want to return the phone, especially since I got it for free with no activation fee on a 2 year contract. In the meanwhile, I'm just enjoying it. Funny though, Now that I've got a 4.3" screen, I want MORE. Bring on the 4.7"!
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After an Inspire and Focus S, I find the 4.7" display of my Titan too large to easily type in.

jeremyshaw said:
After an Inspire and Focus S, I find the 4.7" display of my Titan too large to easily type in.
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I honestly only find it more difficult in landscape mode. Portrait mode is awesome though. I can't stop hitting the "a" button when trying to turn on caps lock. It's really annoying.

Jibberish18 said:
Well the dimming issue hasn't happened to me in quite a while now. I decided to keep the phone. The fact that the display wasn't perfect wasn't enough to make me want to return the phone, especially since I got it for free with no activation fee on a 2 year contract. In the meanwhile, I'm just enjoying it. Funny though, Now that I've got a 4.3" screen, I want MORE. Bring on the 4.7"!
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Having had 3 Samsung Amoled phones (Galaxy S2, Skyrocket, Focus S) and a SAMOLED (Galaxy Note) I will say that Samsung doesn't display true whites, it's always blueish. As far as the dimming, Go to "Settings" > Exta Settings > Use Auto Display (Turn it off, however; it seems to enable itself after changing the theme from light to dark or vice versa, as well as after a reboot.)

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Having had 3 Samsung Amoled phones (Galaxy S2, Skyrocket, Focus S) and a SAMOLED (Galaxy Note) I will say that Samsung doesn't display true whites, it's always blueish. As far as the dimming, Go to "Settings" > Exta Settings > Use Auto Display (Turn it off, however; it seems to enable itself after changing the theme from light to dark or vice versa, as well as after a reboot.)
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I believe all the phones you had, had a SAMOLED + display no? Also, I checked to see if changing the theme from light to dark turns the Auto Display feature back on and for me it does not. As for my dimming issue, it only seems to happen when the phone is plugged in and the battery is a bit warm.
Overall, I like this phone but I also don't. The display is quite delicious really. I've had it on half brightness for a few days now just to see how it looks to me and today I finally put it back to full brightness and the colors really are gorgeous. It's not perfect but I've learned to look past it I guess. Thank you for the reply.

Is the pink tint on all devices or is it a defective screen issue?

Hi, I have noticed the pink tint to the screen when using adaptive brightness below 30-40% and was wondering if it effects all devices.
I have read a lot of people talking about it and that it happens because the screen goes so dark and some people are saying that it is supposed to happen. Is this true and if not is it effecting all devices?
I am on my 3rd device now the first one i took back after a few hours as the screen was tinted really yellow and uneven and my second one had image retention pretty bad and would happen after 5 seconds of the nav bar being displayed and i dont know if it effected them as i didnt try adaptive brightness as i didn't ha e them for long enough.
The one thing i find really weird though is that i have been using the lux app to test if it was to do with the phone going so dim and while there is a slight pink tint when putting the brightness down on the lux app it is no where near as bad as when adaptive brightness is being used and the lux app goes a lot darker.
Thanks.

I've seen all does it specially at night. I consider this is normal

Its because you're brightness is below 0. If you use adaptive brightness at night its lower than 0 without adaptive brightness. You will see the same thing if you use the lux brightness app.
Edit: I noticed you used the lux app, you're correct its not as bad with it, but it's still there. I could be a software implementation or a bug for all we know.

So it is actually on all devices and not a select few?
I got 7 days to return it for another one but if it is on all devices and there is nothing that can fix it i dont think there is no point in risking it for another nexus 6 that could have a worse screen like uneven colours.

lew87ys said:
So it is actually on all devices and not a select few?
I got 7 days to return it for another one but if it is on all devices and there is nothing that can fix it i dont think there is no point in risking it for another nexus 6 that could have a worse screen like uneven colours.
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lew87ys said:
So it is actually on all devices and not a select few?
I got 7 days to return it for another one but if it is on all devices and there is nothing that can fix it i dont think there is no point in risking it for another nexus 6 that could have a worse screen like uneven colours.
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This is more of a feature than a defect, frankly...
Not that it is pink, but that it can be dropped down as low as it can.
Basically, there is a minimum brightness threshold. The lower the brightness, the less power it consumes. If you set the brightness below a certain point, the colors (because of the nature of the amoled) will start to mess up a bit. Most vendors will set the minimum brightness high enough to not have this happen. Google sets it a bit lower to save a bit more power, without making the colors go *entirely* crazy by setting it WAY too low.

Its made like that to conserve power. All nexus 6 are like that

I thought it was a defect too until I started researching and like someone suggested turned off adaptive brightness which made the tint go away completely even at lowest brightness setting.
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I thought it was a defect too until I started researching and like someone suggested turned off adaptive brightness which made the tint go away completely even at lowest brightness setting.
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Adaptive brightness is actually a really nice feature.
If the pink bugs you too much, you can (if you know your way around a compiler, that is...) bump up the minimum a little.

What if adaptive brightness is off, and the brightness is set to at least 70%, and the pink tint crap still happens? kernel issue? nougat issue? Because it's very annoying, randomly happens to me. usually, going into twrp and clearing cache fixes it. sometimes it doesn't though.
Help.
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Never mind. I figured it out. it was night mode that was causing the pink tint via purenexus settings.

Faded/washed display after Oreo update.

So after this much anticipated Oreo release, my display has been left faded looking. It's as though you have the brightness turned all the way up which washes out the color, but even when it's turned down. It's rather frustrating & sRGB is not ticked. Please tell me this isn't the new display & what I could possibly do to change it.
Edit: Also just realized when I change my screen mode in display settings, nothing happens. I can even turn the red, green and blue all the way down with no effect. Anyone else experiencing this issue with Oreo?

Have to say no, that has not happened for me. Display looks the same and changing display settings changes the screen for me. Perhaps a reboot might help...

Do a Full reset, sounds like the ota bugged your settings out.

I've been on Oreo since the release and haven't had any issues with screen color or resolution.
Did you proceed to do the above posted steps? I myself would also say to factory reset the system.
If so, would you mind letting us know how it went and if it fixed the issue at hand.

The only place I've noticed something like this, is when using Google Maps through Android Auto, with my Vehicles display. I get the faded or Ghosting on the display. If I change from maps, to phone and back to maps it's fine again. But it's only temporary. This all started after I got the Oreo update. I'm still actively troubleshooting to find out if the cable is the problem or if it's related to the phone.

after 2 resets im good. started device as new and bo restoration of apps/go from there

Question Display dims for a few secs after screen unlock

This has been an age-old issue on multiple devices and still can't find a solution.
When the screen is unlocked the display is dim to a very low brightness hardly enough to use for a few seconds, roughly about 5s, and it turns on to the normal brightness. I find this issue reported to have been occurring since 2105? or earlier on phones from OnePlus and others.
I have Nova launcher as default, altered it's settings, just in case, in vain. After tinkering with many options in the settings i couldn't find a proper solution. Then I found that after the phone is booted, the problem didn't occur for some time, under a minute. So i Disabled multiple apps from startup, yet, nothing changed. It was also noted that the display was not fully dim though, whilst the home screen was dim, the status and the notification drop down stayed lit with normal brightness. Afterall, it seems the fingerprint might the thing causing the issue that the phone doesn't show a problem when screen unlock is performed via other methods like pin. Apparently, it's all BBK phones that's having this issue? Even though this is not a big problem, the experience is pretty annoying. And, it wasn't there when i first used the phone.
So, is there a workaround for this issue other than disabling fingerprint or using other login methods? Or could it be a bug that's to be resolved in an OS update? Any help is appreciated.
Edit: vivo pushed an OTA update today, and after installing that, it seems the issue has been resolved. There's no mention of such an issue in the bugs fix list, let's still assume it was a bug.
Edit 2: Well, the problem persists (also deleted attached image of update which did not help resolve the issue).

daftdrift said:
This has been an age-old issue on multiple devices and still can't find a solution.
When the screen is unlocked the display is dim to a very low brightness hardly enough to use for a few seconds, roughly about 5s, and it turns on to the normal brightness. I find this issue reported to have been occurring since 2105? or earlier on phones from OnePlus and others.
I have Nova launcher as default, altered it's settings, just in case, in vain. After tinkering with many options in the settings i couldn't find a proper solution. Then I found that after the phone is booted, the problem didn't occur for some time, under a minute. So i Disabled multiple apps from startup, yet, nothing changed. It was also noted that the display was not fully dim though, whilst the home screen was dim, the status and the notification drop down stayed lit with normal brightness. Afterall, it seems the fingerprint might the thing causing the issue that the phone doesn't show a problem when screen unlock is performed via other methods like pin. Apparently, it's all BBK phones that's having this issue? Even though this is not a big problem, the experience is pretty annoying. And, it wasn't there when i first used the phone.
So, is there a workaround for this issue other than disabling fingerprint or using other login methods? Or could it be a bug that's to be resolved in an OS update? Any help is appreciated.
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Just try NOT to set auto brightness ON and see things can improve.

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Just try NOT to set auto brightness ON and see things can improve.
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Sorry i did not mention I did try that method in the first place of all. We could tell it isn't the auto brightness causing the issue if the status bar and notifications are displaying in normal brightness.

The issue was resolved with an update.
Edit: not really. Sick.