Max manual shutter speed/exposure time? - Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers

Hello everyone, I noticed that with FooteJ camera, the manual controls only allows up to 10s exposure. It's 32s max on much cheaper Redmi Note 7. Is it possible to increase the max exposure time?

JellyPuddie said:
Hello everyone, I noticed that with FooteJ camera, the manual controls only allows up to 10s exposure. It's 32s max on much cheaper Redmi Note 7. Is it possible to increase the max exposure time?
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Camera PX works with up to 30-32s on a stock Pixel 4, if you set the max astro time setting in the settings. But that doesn't mean it will pick exactly 30s, it is all automatic still - it just overrides the maximum time (stock is 16s max). To get longer than 10s in 3rd party apps, someone will have to modify the system libs and you'll have to root to apply that (there aren't any mods available yet for this).

cstark27 said:
Camera PX works with up to 30-32s on a stock Pixel 4, if you set the max astro time setting in the settings. But that doesn't mean it will pick exactly 30s, it is all automatic still - it just overrides the maximum time (stock is 16s max). To get longer than 10s in 3rd party apps, someone will have to modify the system libs and you'll have to root to apply that (there aren't any mods available yet for this).
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Thanks for responding cstark. By the way, is it possible for camera PX to increase the frame captured for astrophotography mode? The default was 15 frames right?

Astro mode uses many shots and aligns them as obvious things like the stars are moving between shots collected. I don't think the actual hardware is capable of true long exposure shots.

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[Camera Tweak] ISO 12800 @ 20.7 MP

Hello
The default camera app only uses the max ISO while at superior auto And at 8 MP...
With manual mode you can only use 3200 of it...again at 8 MP.
For me sounds not very nice...I used Xposed Module(20MP superior auto) to make superior auto at 15.5 MP and have high ISO but I noticed it will again lower the max ISO...
I want max res (for me 15.5 @16:9) with max ISO...
So now I'm starting to dig in camera app to see if that controls the ISO (so I mod it and make it better) or something else...
Anyone having an idea that what controls the ISO?
Kernel?
Something at build.prop?
Or camera app?
Or it is a hardware limited?
somebodyhura said:
Hello
The default camera app only uses the max ISO while at superior auto And at 8 MP...
With manual mode you can only use 3200 of it...again at 8 MP.
For me sounds not very nice...I used Xposed Module(20MP superior auto) to make superior auto at 15.5 MP and have high ISO but I noticed it will again lower the max ISO...
I want max res (for me 15.5 @16:9) with max ISO...
So now I'm starting to dig in camera app to see if that controls the ISO (so I mod it and make it better) or something else...
Anyone having an idea that what controls the ISO?
Kernel?
Something at build.prop?
Or camera app?
Or it is a hardware limited?
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Max ISO just fills the picture with noise.
I don't understand why you want to make the ISO so high, it just makes the picture quality worse, where are you going to take photos, a coal mine?
@Didgesteve
Hehe no...NO...not to make it always at max...
When at 8 MP the camera max ISO can go to 12800 at night in auto mode...but at 15.5 it will not...it will limit it to something like 3200 I think
I just want to delete the limiter or adjust it to use the full ISO at 15.5 if needed...
I like taking pictures at night...you try it yourself...sometimes it's very nice that you see what your eyes even can't see at nights...
Have any ideas where the ISO is controlled?
I saw a lot of codes at the camera app written in binary to adjust the ISO... Idont know what to do with binary codes...for example this line:
field public static final cam_strings_iso_12800_txt:I = 0x7f0901ed
Any ideas?

Recording with constant framerate (LOS)

Hey guys!
I'm currently using nvertigo67's LAS for the 1+3T, which comes with OOS camera pre-installed.
It works extremely nice, except for one thing. It does record 1080p in 60fps, however with a variable framerate. I asked the dev. if he knew any way to change it to record at a constant 60fps, to which he said he doesn't know much about changing codec settings (post 1 & 2)
Do any of you know what I should try to do to be able to record with a constant framerate?
Lada333 said:
Hey guys!
I'm currently using nvertigo67's LAS for the 1+3T, which comes with OOS camera pre-installed.
It works extremely nice, except for one thing. It does record 1080p in 60fps, however with a variable framerate. I asked the dev. if he knew any way to change it to record at a constant 60fps, to which he said he doesn't know much about changing codec settings (post 1 & 2)
Do any of you know what I should try to do to be able to record with a constant framerate?
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use a camera app where you can lock the ambient brightness like open camera. then try to lower the ambient brightness shown in the camera by holding the camera to a bright spot and press on the lock. this changes the iso so the framerate rises and by locking it it will stay on that framerate constantly. ofc you can also use a camera app where you can choose between different iso values.
but for me oss camera has allways same framerate no matter what light conditions. your issue might be kernel related. low performance maybe. or some apps consuming cpu in the background
nadejo said:
use a camera app where you can lock the ambient brightness like open camera. then try to lower the ambient brightness shown in the camera by holding the camera to a bright spot and press on the lock. this changes the iso so the framerate rises and by locking it it will stay on that framerate constantly. ofc you can also use a camera app where you can choose between different iso values.
but for me oss camera has allways same framerate no matter what light conditions. your issue might be kernel related. low performance maybe. or some apps consuming cpu in the background
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I have tried Open Camera, unfortunately it doesn't go above 30 fps, even when selecting 60 as the approximate frame rate.
The developer told me it's how the encoder works (please see "post 1 & 2" I have linked in my first post, he explains it there pretty well.)
OOS camera worked for me well too, while I was actually using OOS. The AOSP camera doesn't support 60fps recording either.

Camera Apps Can Tune Sharpening, Noise Reduction?

I'm considering buying the Nokia 8 but would first prefer to know whether or not the phone allows third party camera apps like Camera FV-5 or Snap Camera HDR to tune sharpening and noise reduction, or altogether switch these off.
Any Nokia 8 owners who have tried this and can tell if this works or not?
You can use any camera app you like
Thanks. I am sure that is true.
My question is specific. If I install a camera app that allows tuning post processing (sharpening and noise reduction), will this work on the Nokia 8?
Not all phone makers expose these controls in the camera APIs.
For example, Samsung's Galaxy phones equipped with Exynos chips does not permit tuning post processing while their SnapDragon models do this.
abubasim said:
My question is specific. If I install a camera app that allows tuning post processing (sharpening and noise reduction), will this work on the Nokia 8?
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I have both Camera FV-5 and Manual Camera so I could check if such options are there if you tell me where to look as I don't recall seeing something like that in their preferences (I had Nexus 6P previously).
Thanks. I'll check when I reach home in a few hours.
revanmj said:
I have both Camera FV-5 and Manual Camera so I could check if such options are there if you tell me where to look as I don't recall seeing something like that in their preferences (I had Nexus 6P previously).
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You can check in Camera FV-5. See my screenshots where to find sharpening. If you take a photo first before adjusting and then after with sharpening set to minimum: will you see difference in quality, when zooming in to 100% ?
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If you take a photo first before adjusting and then after with sharpening set to minimum: will you see difference in quality, when zooming in to 100% ?
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Well, it is by default set to 0 here (all sliders in this window are) so I would have to manually change it to higher value in order to do any comparison.
Okay, thanks. So probably doesn't work then. I guess I need to consider other phones. ?
On my current phone (Asus PFS) it's set to almost zero but adjusting it has no effect on picture quality.
Ok, when I tried to move that slider it turned out it is impossible. So that fully answers your question
Just find an app that takes RAW images and use that. Then adjust said parameters to your heart’s content
I'd rather buy another phone that supports this.
If you have Camera2 API enabled in your phone, try Snap Camera - you can tune everything here. Just enable Camera2 API in the settings, then the noise is preserved. Adjustable sharpness, saturation etc... The only option missing here for me is long exposure mode. On my Redmi 4X it allows only 1" shutter time max (still I can get nice night pictures on ISO 250 with this interval).
Also, you can try FreeDCam and disable Wavelet Denoise in the settings to turn off noise reduction.
Finally, Google Camera port is really great camera app for daily usage, especially for HDR pictures - it uses Camera2 API by default and produces amazing shots with all details (subtle noise) preserved. Unfortunately, you can't adjust any of parameters like sharpness or saturation.
All those apps are tested on my Xiaomi Redmi 4x but it will hopefully work for you if your phone supports Camera2 API.
So you tested on a Xiaomi Redmi 4x but haven't tested on a Nokia 8?
Those features are very much dependant on whether or not the phone supports them. And no way of knowing without buying the phone and testing and then finding out the good or bad news.
So far the hints from previous posters above is that the Nokia 8 does NOT support full control over post processing.

Capture Super Resolution Images on mate 9 (upto 68mpxl)

Guys I tried out a camera called camera super resolution and another app called camera super pixel to capture high resolution images. Camera super pixel is able to capture upto 40mpxl (can be set to different resolution by given options in settings).
The other app i tried out is an old app developed by dept. of image processing in The Czech Republic. It was tested on the nexus 5 and app was released at that time, unfortunatly the app has not been updated or maintained, but it works fine on the huawei mate 9 running on emui 9.1. By changing the configuration I was able to get 68mpxl images. The app is simple and ideal to capture non moving subjects (landscape, macro, portrait, products etc.
The technique this app is Super-resolution algorithm and it is a mathematical algorithm that combines multiple low-resolution input images and creates one image of higher resolution.
*note: the app might crash if you try to increase the resolution factor more than 2.3-2.4 (tested on mate 9)
*You can set the amount of images needed to capture to create the super res image
*Note: After capturing, image processing needs a little while to process the photos (roughly around 30 secs to a minute) and might use 1% of battery to run the algorithm
*The app usually captures a normal 12mpxl image too and saves in gallery
* There are no controls, just settings, capture button and exposure control using volume buttons(+/-).
**Since im a new user I cannot post the app related direct link here, google for camera super resolution android zoi.utia.ca
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Guys I tried out a camera called camera super resolution and another app called camera super pixel to capture high resolution images. Camera super pixel is able to capture upto 40mpxl (can be set to different resolution by given options in settings).
The other app i tried out is an old app developed by dept. of image processing in The Czech Republic. It was tested on the nexus 5 and app was released at that time, unfortunatly the app has not been updated or maintained, but it works fine on the huawei mate 9 running on emui 9.1. By changing the configuration I was able to get 68mpxl images. The app is simple and ideal to capture non moving subjects (landscape, macro, portrait, products etc.
The technique this app is Super-resolution algorithm and it is a mathematical algorithm that combines multiple low-resolution input images and creates one image of higher resolution.
*note: the app might crash if you try to increase the resolution factor more than 2.3-2.4 (tested on mate 9)
*You can set the amount of images needed to capture to create the super res image
*Note: After capturing, image processing needs a little while to process the photos (roughly around 30 secs to a minute) and might use 1% of battery to run the algorithm
*The app usually captures a normal 12mpxl image too and saves in gallery
* There are no controls, just settings, capture button and exposure control using volume buttons(+/-).
**Since im a new user I cannot post the app related direct link here, google for camera super resolution android zoi.utia.ca
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i tried the second app, zoi. utia.ca.
The SR instantly force closed when i launch it.
Runinng 9.1 on mate 9. ?
Edit:
Nevermind, i google the app name, it redirect me to another version that worked for me.
Thanks.

max exposure time in photos?

Hello, I need to know the maximun shutter speed time of the moto g9 plus when using open camera (needs to enable camera2 API on settings of open camera)
I'll really appreciate your time.
Thanks in advance.
in stock camera u can get 32 seconds on both selfie and main camera, in gcam main camera can go up to 4 minutes but the picture stays the same mostly for 3:30 minutes (gcam needs work)
Sapper Morton said:
Edit: Just tested Burial GCam (Not rooted), got from Celso Azevedo website, all 4 sensors are being recognized, included depth, that's monochromatic.
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Nice! sadly Gcam doesn't have manual controls.
So slowest shutter speed is 7,9 seconds on third party cameras? That's a big bummer for me.

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