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The Mate 10 will be my last Huawei phone...

No more unlocked bootloader for you...
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-bootloader-unlocking-869169/

Will be my last too, but more likely due to their update priorities. We pay flagship prices but all promises made at the keynote forgotten, sad.

0alfred0 said:
......, but more likely due to their update priorities. We pay flagship prices but all promises made at the keynote forgotten, sad.
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Beside Pixel and other Phones running stock Android who is doing better???? .....ok, Apple :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Samsung :highfive:
LG
HTC
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and from my persepective it would be hard to find any phone that performance and quality wise would come even close to the Mate's.....
...maybe Treble will provide some improvments but even this is quite doubtfull.

flyingjack said:
Beside Pixel and other Phones running stock Android who is doing better???? .....ok, Apple :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Samsung :highfive:
LG
HTC
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and from my persepective it would be hard to find any phone that performance and quality wise would come even close to the Mate's.....
...maybe Treble will provide some improvments but even this is quite doubtfull.
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Just because nobody is doing it better does not make it ok.

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Just because nobody is doing it better does not make it ok.
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sure...but what would be the alternative...in case nobody is doing it better, you can stay with Huawei and enjoy the great phones....

i had mate 10 pro.They ****ed up something with the bootoader,there is at least 20 people who broke their device since a month ago while rebranding the phone to another region,all of a sudden from that week they closed bootloader unlocking page ? and now they say they never going to open,really i was happy with my phone but paying 1000$ to get a complete brick after no reason is real bull****.and its not solvable by the way.
I think they somehow made bootloader partition read only or something.and our devices cant be revived with any tool at the moment.im really mad for this nonsense.i even mailled them,write on reddit but no ones care untill their device is broken too

I have the non-pro Mate 10. It may very well be my last Huawei phone...but I will say this....it is, by far, the best phone available that ticks all the boxes for me right now.

reza6d said:
i had mate 10 pro.They ****ed up something with the bootoader,there is at least 20 people who broke their device since a month ago while rebranding the phone to another region,all of a sudden from that week they closed bootloader unlocking page ? and now they say they never going to open,really i was happy with my phone but paying 1000$ to get a complete brick after no reason is real bull****.and its not solvable by the way.
I think they somehow made bootloader partition read only or something.and our devices cant be revived with any tool at the moment.im really mad for this nonsense.i even mailled them,write on reddit but no ones care untill their device is broken too
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Well, you are not supposed to flash unapproved firmwares, so Huawei isn't responsible for that.
And complaining to them about that, would most likely do more damage than good.
When we unlock the bootloader and install stuff like that, we have to assume the risk and responsibility.
I know that in some cases, they replaced the device under warranty, but i doubt that those users told Huawei the whole story! ?

I will sell my Mate in few days.

mate 10 pro will be my only and last Huawei phone. ordered the u12+ and then going to sell the mate

jaseman said:
I have the non-pro Mate 10. It may very well be my last Huawei phone...but I will say this....it is, by far, the best phone available that ticks all the boxes for me right now.
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This. Exactly.

Well... Wrong... I owned the following devices : LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, HTC 10, Galaxy S7, Oneplus 3T, Galaxy S8 and now Mate 10 Pro. I can say that exept the camera this is by far the best phone yet. LG and Samsung are far behind with updates, HTC just simply sucks, OnePlus sucks on support and accesories (in East Europe at least). Battery life on this phone is just amazing, screen quality ok, call quality ok, build quality ok, updates better than Samsung or LG. In my opinion all phones are crap and all have bugs or problems.

mioss said:
Well... Wrong... I owned the following devices : LG G2, LG G3, LG G4, HTC 10, Galaxy S7, Oneplus 3T, Galaxy S8 and now Mate 10 Pro. I can say that exept the camera this is by far the best phone yet. LG and Samsung are far behind with updates, HTC just simply sucks, OnePlus sucks on support and accesories (in East Europe at least). Battery life on this phone is just amazing, screen quality ok, call quality ok, build quality ok, updates better than Samsung or LG. In my opinion all phones are crap and all have bugs or problems.
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I agree 100%, everyone has ups and downs, however Mate 10 definitely made an impact as my daily driver, I used Sony, Samsung, and iPhone in the past and got frustrated with limitation in daily use --- battery and usability.

This is likely my first and last Huawei phone unless they change the way updates are delivered. Maybe Googles Android P Mandate will make Huawei change the way they deliver updates requiring monthly security updates.
As a daily driver it is a great phone. The support is the only thing keeping it down. Face Unlock took way too long to come out for a flagship phone. Lesser phones getting Higher Android versions are also concerning.
Nokia is showing their care very much about support on their phones. And they are on the top of my list for my next phone.

flyingjack said:
sure...but what would be the alternative...in case nobody is doing it better, you can stay with Huawei and enjoy the great phones....
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RabidWolve said:
This is likely my first and last Huawei phone unless they change the way updates are delivered. Maybe Googles Android P Mandate will make Huawei change the way they deliver updates requiring monthly security updates.
As a daily driver it is a great phone. The support is the only thing keeping it down. Face Unlock took way too long to come out for a flagship phone. Lesser phones getting Higher Android versions are also concerning.
Nokia is showing their care very much about support on their phones. And they are on the top of my list for my next phone.
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Hmm my Mate 9 got updated to Oreo long (months) before the S7 , S8 and LG G6
I kept my mate 9 when I got my mate 10... And both are on the April security updates. Both supposedly support treble
I also have a xiaomi mi mix 2 on the April update
So on the second day in June..... What non Google pixel phone are you going to switch to so that you can get more timely updates?
Let me know so that I can switch as well
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Ukiya8 said:
I agree 100%, everyone has ups and downs, however Mate 10 definitely made an impact as my daily driver, I used Sony, Samsung, and iPhone in the past and got frustrated with limitation in daily use --- battery and usability.
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You two are against the grain of this board
I've even seen a poster saying that his S5 took far better pictures than the mate 10
I've been on xda since I first flashed my Samsung omnia in 2008... And this mate 10 board is truly something different to me
I'm happy with my Mate 10 (non pro)... The ai stabilization night shot is already on FF for the Chinese mate 10... So hopefully we get it in a month or two
Btw
I have a C605 mate 10
And a C636 mate 9
Never had any issues getting updates
And now it seems that you get access the update through the stock updater as soon as it's approved
My only real complaints are that:
Even at beauty = 0.. there's still something going on... However it's not a deal breaker
I wish all brands used the OnePlus method of delivering updates... So that a free VPN would be all you need to trigger the update
If Huawei won't realise the official blobs.. then I can do without the bootloader unlock for now
Devs are mostly on snapdragon devices
I actually bought the mi mix 2 so that I could install custom ROMs (cheapest snapdragon 835 I could find).... But the phone is sooooo smooth... That I just installed Nova launcher and I have been using it like that
Smoothest Android device that I've ever used
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Added screenshot of 5.31.18 Chinese mate 10 changeling from FF

Is this a joke? This subforum is just laughable, I usually lurk here for anything new and interesting, instead however I see most of the time is someone complaining about the phone not getting timely updates, "ugh, this is my last Huawei phone" "I hate how slow these updates are rolling out compare to others" "Where is my update, and why does this _____ region have this update but I dont?"
THIS is all I see here being posted whether its a new post or someone making comments on an already existing post. What has this turned into? "Lets complain about Huawei and crappy their support is subforum"?
Like the dude above me, I have been here since 2008 and this is by far probably on par with the Mate 9 subforum here on XDA the worst. No offense but damn!
You want updates in a timely manner? Get a Pixel
You want extensive ROM/Kernel developement with big support? Get a Snapdragon phone.
Simple as that, yeah sucks Huawei is going to shut down its bootloader unlocking service but thats reality and it might be for the better anyways. Yes this is XDA risk are taken but...(Think from Huawei's stand point)
Honestly I could CARE LESS about it. These phones were excellent from the start, I have no complaints whatsoever. Huawei out did themselves in terms of delivering a phone for performance and battery out of the box both 10s and the 9.
I see this more as a daily driver phone, not a phone a flash junkie can have fun with. People making threats saying "Oh im switching out for this _____ phone because of the amount of support and updates it gets" or "I regret getting this phone, support and updates are horrible" Um ok? Cool man as if that'll make a change anywhere, my thing is this, why cant people enjoy the phone as it stands out of the box?
Face unlock update? Dont care about it as much, if I receive it cool.
Not trying to offend everyone here, only those that seem to be impatient and think that we should be getting the latest updates in such quick time frame. Yeah yeah sure you paid premium prices and you expect the world? Not every company is the same, should have done your research if youre really after custom ROM development

Even SD device ain't a guarantee that you'll have community room support, just look at Sony. It is what it is. I bought this device cuz of battery and big amoled screen(un notched) and Huawei delivered. Yeah it got it's flaws but every phone has. As long they don't override pros it's a good purchase....and I'll sure be looking into Mate 20 if they keep the same philosophy as with predecessors.

Limited ROMS on this device and they wanted to lock the bootloader for good. Lol, I'm about to do a clean swap for Oneplus5t, think it will be worth it?

XERO_Racer said:
Is this a joke? This subforum is just laughable, I usually lurk here for anything new and interesting, instead however I see most of the time is someone complaining about the phone not getting timely updates, "ugh, this is my last Huawei phone" "I hate how slow these updates are rolling out compare to others" "Where is my update, and why does this _____ region have this update but I dont?"
THIS is all I see here being posted whether its a new post or someone making comments on an already existing post. What has this turned into? "Lets complain about Huawei and crappy their support is subforum"?
Like the dude above me, I have been here since 2008 and this is by far probably on par with the Mate 9 subforum here on XDA the worst. No offense but damn!
You want updates in a timely manner? Get a Pixel
You want extensive ROM/Kernel developement with big support? Get a Snapdragon phone.
Simple as that, yeah sucks Huawei is going to shut down its bootloader unlocking service but thats reality and it might be for the better anyways. Yes this is XDA risk are taken but...(Think from Huawei's stand point)
Honestly I could CARE LESS about it. These phones were excellent from the start, I have no complaints whatsoever. Huawei out did themselves in terms of delivering a phone for performance and battery out of the box both 10s and the 9.
I see this more as a daily driver phone, not a phone a flash junkie can have fun with. People making threats saying "Oh im switching out for this _____ phone because of the amount of support and updates it gets" or "I regret getting this phone, support and updates are horrible" Um ok? Cool man as if that'll make a change anywhere, my thing is this, why cant people enjoy the phone as it stands out of the box?
Face unlock update? Dont care about it as much, if I receive it cool.
Not trying to offend everyone here, only those that seem to be impatient and think that we should be getting the latest updates in such quick time frame. Yeah yeah sure you paid premium prices and you expect the world? Not every company is the same, should have done your research if youre really after custom ROM development
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So why this device on here ? on XDA forum. There are lots of devices who doesnt have forum thread, so lets put out Mate 10 PRO, if nobody need updates or custom roms or ......

XERO_Racer said:
why cant people enjoy the phone as it stands out of the box?
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It's trash! I bought a Note 4, years ago and I don't use it, because CyanogenMod was not ready. Samsung is today much better but still trash.
If somebody ask me now "yo, get Lineage OS but lose warranty?" I will instant flash Lineage OS, because EMUI is just a copy of the old MIUI, with bug's and ugly interface.
So, in future no more Huawei, just Xiaomi, Android One (Nokia) and OnePlus. Pixel never, because no dual SIM.

Realme announces Android 10 update Q2 2020 for the Realme X2 Pro

https://www.xda-developers.com/realme-android-10-update-coloros-7-roadmap-realme-x2-pro/
Hopefully much sooner it will also get a Google camera 7 mod.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-7-2-astrophotography-super-res-zoom-pixels/

That is between April and June. That's really poor.

Seems like crap support,
Wonder what the frequency of updates regarding bug fixes, features and security updates is.
Can't confidently buy this phone at the moment with lack of any assurances from RealMe

manus31 said:
Seems like crap support,
Wonder what the frequency of updates regarding bug fixes, features and security updates is.
Can't confidently buy this phone at the moment with lack of any assurances from RealMe
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I've already purchased. Has so much potential. The OS is still somewhat Chinese even in English. If you could get oxygenOS it would be awesome.

chipcamel said:
I've already purchased. Has so much potential. The OS is still somewhat Chinese even in English. If you could get oxygenOS it would be awesome.
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I'm sure the EU version will have no Chinese but the OS itself in terms of features and performance will be similar,
Have you received any OTA updates ?
Security patches ?
How's the camera performance ?

manus31 said:
I'm sure the EU version will have no Chinese but the OS itself in terms of features and performance will be similar,
Have you received any OTA updates ?
Security patches ?
How's the camera performance ?
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I have gotten 2 updates for it so far. One after I turned it on and one yesterday I think just a minor update for security and gesture functionality. Camera is actually not too bad. For some reason tho in my room I'll get these black bars going across the camera but not with the wide angle lens. It doesn't appear outside or anywhere else tho and I don't know what in my room would cause they lol but it shows up in pictures. Outside pictures with good lighting came out really well maybe a lil too much highlight but with some updates it would be cool. I really wanted a 7T for the macro mode on the camera and surprise this one has a super macro mode that actually works pretty well too. I don't know if I can post photos in here or no I don't know how. Don't use this forum often as I was on iPhone life the last 2 years.

chipcamel said:
I have gotten 2 updates for it so far. One after I turned it on and one yesterday I think just a minor update for security and gesture functionality. Camera is actually not too bad. For some reason tho in my room I'll get these black bars going across the camera but not with the wide angle lens. It doesn't appear outside or anywhere else tho and I don't know what in my room would cause they lol but it shows up in pictures. Outside pictures with good lighting came out really well maybe a lil too much highlight but with some updates it would be cool. I really wanted a 7T for the macro mode on the camera and surprise this one has a super macro mode that actually works pretty well too. I don't know if I can post photos in here or no I don't know how. Don't use this forum often as I was on iPhone life the last 2 years.
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Yes,the features of the camera are great on paper but I've seen a lot of comparisons on YouTube and it seems to fall short compared to the Oneplus 7T for example but it can improve with updates and probably will.
I'm encouraged to hear you have gotten two updates already but am disappointed that Realme won't be giving Android 10 until q2 next year,that's quite late and they don't state anywhere their policy on the life of support which you would hope would be at least 2 years.
Macro mode looks awesome and the zoom,have you tried that ?
I might actually email Realme and ask them about software because in fairness they did email me back the last time I asked them about shipping and stuff,
I might buy this if the support will last 2 to 3 years but will need to lol at some other reviews
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You can attach photos here using the yellow attach icon on the XDA app anyway

Yeah I'm not thrilled about Android 10 coming so late. I didn't even know there was an app so this makes everything way easier lol. Hopefully some nice custom ROMs will come out similar to oxygenOS. The OS is very fluid but still have something in Chinese and no Google assistant as built in assistant which I was really looking forward to. I'm attaching pictures I just went outside to take to show you 1x,2x,5x, and wide angle (or not keeps saying bad request?)

chipcamel said:
Yeah I'm not thrilled about Android 10 coming so late. I didn't even know there was an app so this makes everything way easier lol. Hopefully some nice custom ROMs will come out similar to oxygenOS. The OS is very fluid but still have something in Chinese and no Google assistant as built in assistant which I was really looking forward to. I'm attaching pictures I just went outside to take to show you 1x,2x,5x, and wide angle (or not keeps saying bad request?)
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I think you should probably wait for the global rom to sort out your issues with the google,yes some custom ROMs would also be nice.
Maybe you can only upload small pictures here I don't know

manus31 said:
I think you should probably wait for the global rom to sort out your issues with the google,yes some custom ROMs would also be nice.
Maybe you can only upload small pictures here I don't know
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How hard is it to flash another rom? I don't do that stuff often. I tried when I was younger on an no old Android and wiped it clean lol.

chipcamel said:
How hard is it to flash another rom? I don't do that stuff often. I tried when I was younger on an no old Android and wiped it clean lol.
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I'm not too keen on it myself,did a bit when I was younger but there are plenty of tutorials out there and XDA is quite useful of you have any questions.
Right now I'm just at the point where I need the phone to work and I need the manufacturer to support the OS of my device,
Currently have a Oneplus 6T and it's great for software,just got stable A10 yesterday morning on 1 year old device. If I was you I might start thinking of trading in your Realme for a OnePlus 7T or 7T pro.
The X2 pro is great on paper but I'm not sure about the software at all. Will be interesting to see some more reviews for the device especially as it comes out in the EU next week

I just switched to it today from my X. Will see how it does this week as a daily. Runs fornite mobile with a controller really well and COD mobile looks even better so smooth it's insane with highest graphics.

manus31 said:
Yes,the features of the camera are great on paper but I've seen a lot of comparisons on YouTube and it seems to fall short compared to the Oneplus 7T for example but it can improve with updates and probably will.
I'm encouraged to hear you have gotten two updates already but am disappointed that Realme won't be giving Android 10 until q2 next year,that's quite late and they don't state anywhere their policy on the life of support which you would hope would be at least 2 years.
Macro mode looks awesome and the zoom,have you tried that ?
I might actually email Realme and ask them about software because in fairness they did email me back the last time I asked them about shipping and stuff,
I might buy this if the support will last 2 to 3 years but will need to lol at some other reviews
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You can attach photos here using the yellow attach icon on the XDA app anyway
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Finally let me upload some pics here is 1x,2x, and 5x

chipcamel said:
Finally let me upload some pics here is 1x,2x, and 5x
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Hey Dude,cheers for the samples,they look good but I'm no expert.
Have looked at a lot of comparisons on YouTube and when they compare the camera on the x2 pro to that of a flagship like the p30 pro or iPhone 11 they generally say the x2 pro suffers in some areas.
I would say your photos look good but not amazing,maybe they aren't that sharp or the color is a bit off,maybe a bit noisy in areas,again no expert.
But how's the rest of the phone going,is the ColorOS any good,is it annoying,
How are the features etc ?
Still haven't pre ordered mine and not sure yet if I will

manus31 said:
Hey Dude,cheers for the samples,they look good but I'm no expert.
Have looked at a lot of comparisons on YouTube and when they compare the camera on the x2 pro to that of a flagship like the p30 pro or iPhone 11 they generally say the x2 pro suffers in some areas.
I would say your photos look good but not amazing,maybe they aren't that sharp or the color is a bit off,maybe a bit noisy in areas,again no expert.
But how's the rest of the phone going,is the ColorOS any good,is it annoying,
How are the features etc ?
Still haven't pre ordered mine and not sure yet if I will
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Pictures aren't bad especially in good lighting. Idk if photos get compressed when uploaded so that could be another reason. ColorOS is okay it's like a iOS kinda vibe but very well Android. It's usable but you can't change launchers or set default apps. Some stuff on the phone is still in Chinese. No Google assistant you have breeno instead which isn't usable because all Chinese. They have their own iCloud type deal on the phone too which doesn't work well cause again Chinese. Battery life tho is really good so far one of the best phones I've had with battery life and the charging is unreal how fast it is. I also pull faster data speeds on my iPhone X than this phone. WiFi is fast but my T-Mobile data is half as fast or less than that compared to the same service on the iPhone . If they could get oxygenOS on this thing it would be a beast.

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Pictures aren't bad especially in good lighting. Idk if photos get compressed when uploaded so that could be another reason. ColorOS is okay it's like a iOS kinda vibe but very well Android. It's usable but you can't change launchers or set default apps. Some stuff on the phone is still in Chinese. No Google assistant you have breeno instead which isn't usable because all Chinese. They have their own iCloud type deal on the phone too which doesn't work well cause again Chinese. Battery life tho is really good so far one of the best phones I've had with battery life and the charging is unreal how fast it is. I also pull faster data speeds on my iPhone X than this phone. WiFi is fast but my T-Mobile data is half as fast or less than that compared to the same service on the iPhone . If they could get oxygenOS on this thing it would be a beast.
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Thanks for the detailed insight,I do think most of these google related problems will not exist on the global EU version,there will be no Chinese on that and you should be able to set the default launcher, OxygenOS would probably be amazing on this phone,it all depends on the dev community,though things do seem fairly quiet so far for this phone on XDA,I'm sure it will gain some type of dev following

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Thanks for the detailed insight,I do think most of these google related problems will not exist on the global EU version,there will be no Chinese on that and you should be able to set the default launcher, OxygenOS would probably be amazing on this phone,it all depends on the dev community,though things do seem fairly quiet so far for this phone on XDA,I'm sure it will gain some type of dev following
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Even if no one makes custom roms for this phone would I still be able to flash the global ROM when it becomes available?

chipcamel said:
Even if no one makes custom roms for this phone would I still be able to flash the global ROM when it becomes available?
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That I do not know for sure with Realme but I don't think you will have a problem,The hardware is the same so I would hope you could easily flash the global rom.
Keep an eye on the forums here for advice and maybe read elsewhere like reddit.

Oppo are launching Color OS 7 with Android 10 next week and Realme are launching this phone in India the same day. Seems unlikely to me that they'd hurt sales by not getting this OS to this phone a lot sooner than Q2 next year.
Full story on GSMArena

Regarding Android 10, the twitter account for Realme Spain confirmed that it will release on Q1 2020 for every Realme in Europe. So it's a bit earlier than expected.

General I am starting to hate this phone now for one reason!

No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!

Agreed

Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change

definitely.

They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss

easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.

hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.

Schumi_wk said:
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?

saisannihith said:
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price

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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21

hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.

I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu

Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.

Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
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What is your problem?

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What is your problem?
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Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.

Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.

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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
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S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you

Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.

vendetta17 said:
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?

saisannihith said:
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
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Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.

General MIUI 13 global is just MIUI 12.5

So i just finished updating to MIUI 13 global on my supposedly new Xiaomi 11T Pro. Only to find out that it basically doesn't bring anything new. Literally nothing apart from that completely useless side bar.
The biggest new feature that Xiaomi was hyping everyone with is the new widgets. We'll they're missing. Nothing but the old 2009 looking widgets.
Even Android 12 features like color palettes thems are not included..
I means what's the point of this update. 3.5 gigabytes of update to instal a stupid side bar and some ugly wallpapers.
I'm really disappointed in this phone and in Xiaomi overall. Too bad it's a new phone that i can not change right now. But my next smartphone will definitely not be from Xiaomi.
Sadly i was a fan of this company and their business model. Now they're just taking us for fools.
500 euros phone doesn't get the features that 150 euros phones are getting from the same damn company. What is this.
I'll be going back to Samsung after all.
Have a good one fellas

I also think that 11t pro will be my first and last xiaomi phone, hardware is fine but software side of things is realy bad, im coming from oneplus2 as my last phone and software on that device was better i hope that lineageos will be available for 11t pro also

I'm the same, I've reported a bug and even how to fix it regarding Wi-Fi calling support in the UK (have had the fix on my personal device for a couple of months and it works perfectly but of course just for me) and it really requires Xiaomi to update their modem code. Every Qualcomm device they sell has the bug on EE in the UK due to bad config settings. Despite using the feedback tools months ago, raising it in their official forum which seems to be nothing more than PR management, the bug isn't fixed, and the file I linked to with details of the config settings hasn't been opened by anyone let alone Xiaomi. So just ignored.
They have far too many devices to be able to issue decent software on any of them as they can't have the resources to deal with them all.
Hardware is good, basically Qualcomm reference design with decent screen and camera, but the software is poor and support just doesn't exist.
I will not buying another one of their products ever again.

zizou_1991 said:
So i just finished updating to MIUI 13 global on my supposedly new Xiaomi 11T Pro. Only to find out that it basically doesn't bring anything new. Literally nothing apart from that completely useless side bar.
The biggest new feature that Xiaomi was hyping everyone with is the new widgets. We'll they're missing. Nothing but the old 2009 looking widgets.
Even Android 12 features like color palettes thems are not included..
I means what's the point of this update. 3.5 gigabytes of update to instal a stupid side bar and some ugly wallpapers.
I'm really disappointed in this phone and in Xiaomi overall. Too bad it's a new phone that i can not change right now. But my next smartphone will definitely not be from Xiaomi.
Sadly i was a fan of this company and their business model. Now they're just taking us for fools.
500 euros phone doesn't get the features that 150 euros phones are getting from the same damn company. What is this.
I'll be going back to Samsung after all.
Have a good one fellas
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u really should try xiaomi.eu 13.0.4 for 11t pro. i was in the same position as urs but eu rom is really good. u dont even need twrp. its self flashes. and is way ahead with lots of features.

robo660660 said:
u really should try xiaomi.eu 13.0.4 for 11t pro. i was in the same position as urs but eu rom is really good. u dont even need twrp. its self flashes. and is way ahead with lots of features.
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where can i find that please ?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/miui-13-xiaomi-eu-for-xiaomi-11t-pro-v13-0-2-0-skdmixm.4374297/

Question LineageOS on Chinese model with color OS

Hello all,
I plan to buy the 10 Pro with colorOS .
I found this how to:
How to Install LineageOS ROM on OnePlus 10 Pro
In this comprehensive tutorial, we will show you the detailed steps to install the LineageOS ROM onto your OnePlus 10 Pro device.
www.droidwin.com
My question(s) are:
1. Is this work also with the coloros version?
2. The official site of lineageos do current not support this device. For get updates, is it better to wait? Or can this version fetching updates if coming?
Thank you for help

As there is no recovery tool. I recommend to stay on color os or oxygen os...
Remember there is a lot of bricked devices just waiting for a msm tool to work.

Thank you .. This I need.
I wait. Its better

That's just a GSI, it's quite simple to install but you'll be missing a bunch of features.
It's extremely simple to install, use the guide here on XDA to do so.
Recovery still works and fastboot enhances does too.
Unless you're a fool you won't brick your device.
I've installed every available GSI and they all have issues, you can use them for the most part but the issues will remain and alas will never be fixed.
Your plan to buy any OnePlus device is a flawed one. It's not a great device, only a device with great potential, potential that's never going to be realised.

Does anyone have any idea when lineageos will be officially available for the 10 Pro?

DestroyHuawei said:
Does anyone have any idea when lineageos will be officially available for the 10 Pro?
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There are no plans..
The issue is that sources from OnePlus have not been fully released iirc.
Furthermore there is no tool to recover a bricked device so if something goes wrong during testing then we're stuck in limbo.
This leaves us in a situation where we have a very capable device totally blocked by the totally greedy mungbeans that are Oppo / OnePlus.
My advice, if you've just bought your device then return it, if it's still quite new but you can't return it then sell it and get any of the pixel devices..
The current situation will not change and if it does it'll be a challenge from start to finish for the poor hapless soul who dares to start flashing their deuce with a custom ROM.
It could prove very expensive at worse or hit and miss at best, both extremely time extensive and worrying at the same time.
Wish I had better news mate, it's a sad time.

Thank you for the detailed explanation. Yes, I understand all that. Fortunately I inform myself before I buy a device ... I don't have it yet and probably won't buy it.
My 7 Pro is getting on in years. It still works perfectly... But I still have Android 10 (lineageos) on it.
lineage_guacamole-userdebug 10 QQ3A.200805.001 286f3fd16d
I haven't been getting updates for a long time. All the important accesses (bank etc) are on the device. I can't afford a dist upgrade failure.
I think I will buy a 9 Pro. I like oneplus. I am very happy with it.

9 pro is a shout.. definitely have a look at the pixel 7..
7 pro was a great phone, I miss my 8 pro, it just worked and had that crazy photocrom camera...
Motorola edge ultra or the next nothing phone could both be a fair punt as well.

Oh, I am not a native English speaker. "9 pro is a shout"?? In my language, that can mean that the 9 Pro is great or that it sucks. Lol. What do you mean is a shout
Thanx

DestroyHuawei said:
Oh, I am not a native English speaker. "9 pro is a shout"?? In my language, that can mean that the 9 Pro is great or that it sucks. Lol. What do you mean is a shout
Thanx
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Lol a it's a good thing
Example.
"I'm going to bet on this horse"
"Yes that's a good shout"
Basically it means good idea.

Thank you

You're welcome buddy