[Discussion] Android 10 Development for the Moto G5S - Moto G5S Guides, News, & Discussion

Recently i asked about Android 10 in the pixel experience thread, i asked because of the website saying "This version Is no longer Supported". I wanted to know if this means no more updates at ALL or just no more updates for Pie.
after this. i started the quest of Android 10, (thats what i like to call it) first i tried with treble roms and found out: everything based on pixel is very buggy and never gets out of the "Finishing Update" lag period, Also everything which wasnt the android 10 beta 5 build advertised by jarlpenguin and phhusson.
gapps which are imbedded into the rom dont work at all on treble Android 10.
Because of that, the only rom with gapps working right now is lineage 17.1..... the problem with that though is that you have no data (no signal/no sim) message and thus cant receive or send anything.
so i started looking at other motorola devices with the same chipset as our device, and search for possibilities for this already working. well i patched a version of aosp 10 from cedric aka the moto G5 which also has a snapdragon 430 processor. the kernel was well...... missing. After flashing radium for non treble roms fixed the problem. we have very similar problems though. 1. We still hav eno REAL signal, yeah it shows up but stays at 0 2.Gapps Dont Work BUT Begone "Finishing Update Lag" , what i am trying to say is: we should probably base on those builds and try if that works with different tweaks and patches to get all features working.
Also i am going to experiment further with this, for example: i am going to experiment with Pixel Experience 10 in the same way i did with Aosp!
thanks for reading i guess

Android 10 development is being postponed in favor of SELinux enforcing on Pie. Plus cedric's Android 10 builds are not Treble enabled, whereas montana's ROMs are, so it won't boot.
Of course I could release a build of LineageOS 17.1, but that would have broken camera, battery drain, possibly memory leaks, and partially broken audio playback. That is why I haven't released it.
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Furthermore, the reason we haven't been able to work on SELinux in P is because the non-treble policy was completely unfit for treble. When we attempted addressing SELinux denials, we hit neverallow build errors. As it turns out, our RIL blobs are too old for Treble compatibility, so we need to update them.

Oh. Okay! Thanks for the information. I guess this just means that at some point PE will get continued. Maybe I will try some modifications on my side to try and get it working.

Hmm

Guess it's set to enforcing. For security and rom compatibility reasons I did deactivate a lot of things first

Some random said:
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Seems spoofed. We didn't have enforcing on any Pie builds.

JarlPenguin said:
Seems spoofed. We didn't have enforcing on any Pie builds.
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The picture is by me.... A lot of things broke afterwards tho. So it isn't just a manipulated settings screen...

This is a picture on RR pie btw

And for context: this is NOT how the ROM comes on its own, I used an application called "The Selinux switch" to set it to enforcing

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And for context: this is NOT how the ROM comes on its own, I used an application called "The Selinux switch" to set it to enforcing
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Right. That's what I thought. It's either spoofed or someone manually enabled it. Lots of things broken are expected.

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the nokia 1 supports project treble!

Just thought I'll be curious and see if my Nokia 1 supported project treble and to my amazement it does
Would this mean the phone would get Android pie?
mattwhite7102 said:
Just thought I'll be curious and see if my Nokia 1 supported project treble and to my amazement it does
Would this mean the phone would get Android pie?
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Actually it has got!!
the treble pie roms can be installed on Nokia 1. Its bootable. the only problem is the RIL(incoming calls are not notified) on nokia 1 (being a a mediatek SoC)is buggy so cannot be used as a daily driver as of now. If calling can be made perfect i think pie can be used on nokia 1.
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Actually it has got!!
the treble pie roms can be installed on Nokia 1. Its bootable. the only problem is the RIL(incoming calls are not notified) on nokia 1 (being a a mediatek SoC)is buggy so cannot be used as a daily driver as of now. If calling can be made perfect i think pie can be used on nokia 1.
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Yeah, would love pie but will it get android 9.0 pie go edition?
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Yeah, would love pie but will it get android 9.0 pie go edition?
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Cant say. Maybe yes in future once treble gsi becomes stable. But as of now gsi roms work on nokia 1.
I came looking for gsi because i face background app crashes on nokia 1, infact many ppl do. There is a discussion even on xda. Its like you open any app, put that in background and after few minutes it exits from memory and you get no notifications from that app.
Can i know your nokia 1 model and build number?
coolboyforeva said:
Cant say. Maybe yes in future once treble gsi becomes stable. But as of now gsi roms work on nokia 1.
I came looking for gsi because i face background app crashes on nokia 1, infact many ppl do. There is a discussion even on xda. Its like you open any app, put that in background and after few minutes it exits from memory and you get no notifications from that app.
Can i know your nokia 1 model and build number?
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My model number is TA-1060
My build number is 00WW_0_39G_SP03
Hi,
mattwhite7102 said:
Just thought I'll be curious and see if my Nokia 1 supported project treble and to my amazement it does
Would this mean the phone would get Android pie?
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Thanks for creating the topic here. I also tried to create on here https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-1/help/treble-experiment-t3836805 with not so much success...
I did not expect the Nokia 1 to be fully compatible with Treble. Other Nokia phones seems have the setting set to no. However, it seems in does (does that setting prevent to push manually GSI images, or simply means that the phone won't be updated by treble ?)
This is for me really interesting, as it means that the Nokia 1 should get alternative ROM support, soon or later. A Couple of links :
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-device-development/index-one-thread-t3812343
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I would be really interested to see results of tests for Lineage, AOSP or other alternative ROMs GSI (even just for Oreo 8.1). The only one i found https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Nokia-1 is a bit incomplete (for example doesnt say wich GSI is used). That device would be amazing if for example lineage could run on it (small, cheap, changeable battery, and with lineage a gapps free android )
geb_ said:
Hi,
Thanks for creating the topic here. I also tried to create on here https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-1/help/treble-experiment-t3836805 with not so much success...
I did not expect the Nokia 1 to be fully compatible with Treble. Other Nokia phones seems have the setting set to no. However, it seems in does (does that setting prevent to push manually GSI images, or simply means that the phone won't be updated by treble ?)
This is for me really interesting, as it means that the Nokia 1 should get alternative ROM support, soon or later. A Couple of links :
https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-device-development/index-one-thread-t3812343
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I would be really interested to see results of tests for Lineage, AOSP or other alternative ROMs GSI (even just for Oreo 8.1). The only one i found https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Nokia-1 is a bit incomplete (for example doesnt say wich GSI is used). That device would be amazing if for example lineage could run on it (small, cheap, changeable battery, and with lineage a gapps free android )[/QUOTE]
Well, I have tried LOS , RR oreo 8.1 GSI images and also the latest pie GSi images by phhusson. All of them boot and work as intended with mentioned bugs. But the one thing that stops from makin it a daily driver is incoming calling. The phone doesnt notifies you of incoming calls. So its a big no as of now.
This needs device specific mods. Maybe phhusson can check this in future builds if he is aware of exact cause.
To be honest, i tried gsi images just coz nokia 1 stock rom has app crashes. It doesnt keeps even a single app in background and makes it useless. And this issue is in some other models too. Its a bug from nokia side and users hv reported in nokia forums too. But nokia is deaf to budget phones. Every month a new update but same issue.
coolboyforeva said:
I would be really interested to see results of tests for Lineage, AOSP or other alternative ROMs GSI (even just for Oreo 8.1). The only one i found https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Nokia-1 is a bit incomplete (for example doesnt say wich GSI is used). That device would be amazing if for example lineage could run on it (small, cheap, changeable battery, and with lineage a gapps free android )
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Well, I have tried LOS , RR oreo 8.1 GSI images and also the latest pie GSi images by phhusson. All of them boot and work as intended with mentioned bugs. But the one thing that stops from makin it a daily driver is incoming calling. The phone doesnt notifies you of incoming calls. So its a big no as of now.
This needs device specific mods. Maybe phhusson can check this in future builds if he is aware of exact cause.
To be honest, i tried gsi images just coz nokia 1 stock rom has app crashes. It doesnt keeps even a single app in background and makes it useless. And this issue is in some other models too. Its a bug from nokia side and users hv reported in nokia forums too. But nokia is deaf to budget phones. Every month a new update but same issue.[/QUOTE]
You must be so brave, modding your phone with the warrenty, I'm my opinion I would wait till android 9.0 hits my phone as an update (If HMD decides to do it!)
mattwhite7102 said:
Well, I have tried LOS , RR oreo 8.1 GSI images and also the latest pie GSi images by phhusson. All of them boot and work as intended with mentioned bugs. But the one thing that stops from makin it a daily driver is incoming calling. The phone doesnt notifies you of incoming calls. So its a big no as of now.
This needs device specific mods. Maybe phhusson can check this in future builds if he is aware of exact cause.
To be honest, i tried gsi images just coz nokia 1 stock rom has app crashes. It doesnt keeps even a single app in background and makes it useless. And this issue is in some other models too. Its a bug from nokia side and users hv reported in nokia forums too. But nokia is deaf to budget phones. Every month a new update but same issue.
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I think for incoming calling you have to set phone app as default and it should work fine also there's a lineage 15.1 go edition by phhusson
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ttocs99 said:
I think for incoming calling you have to set phone app as default and it should work fine also there's a lineage 15.1 go edition by phhusson
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There also seems to be recent (9/2018) changes, related to how the call is handled on MTK devices (https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...-development/experimental-phh-treble-t3709659)
Changelog
v25 (2018-09-07)
- [....]
- Fix (some) MTK incoming call
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And people seems to have confirmed it works https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/wiki/Nokia-1
Might have to give that a whirl but would prefer if there was updated GO gsi with the latest fix as it will be more beneficial for the Nokia 1
So guys, I bet everyone remembers the legendary HTC HD2 which ran a lot of android updates and other OS (IIRC, It came as Windows OOB),
Could Nokia 1 be something comparable, as a treble device?
Also, has anyone tried the GSI roms? I seem to get stuck on the boot screen.
GuyGotMadNameGame said:
So guys, I bet everyone remembers the legendary HTC HD2 which ran a lot of android updates and other OS (IIRC, It came as Windows OOB),
Could Nokia 1 be something comparable, as a treble device?
Also, has anyone tried the GSI roms? I seem to get stuck on the boot screen.
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Thats what the device is called on ebay! Im planning of getting one!
installed rr7.0 based on pie and using it as a daily driver
it's amazing!
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installed rr7.0 based on pie and using it as a daily driver
it's amazing!
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Which one exactly? I have tested AOSP from
github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases
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and none of them work flawlessly RIL problem present and carrier problems too:
8.1v27
8.1_v26
9v113
8.1v31
coolboyforeva said:
To be honest, i tried gsi images just coz nokia 1 stock rom has app crashes. It doesnt keeps even a single app in background and makes it useless. And this issue is in some other models too. Its a bug from nokia side and users hv reported in nokia forums too. But nokia is deaf to budget phones. Every month a new update but same issue.
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I would like to reinstall stock rom. Do you have a stock image for fastboot flash system method? I have found this, but do not know how to flash
fih-firmware.hikaricalyx.com/hmd_en.html#frt
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emailcurro said:
I would like to reinstall stock rom. Do you have a stock image for fastboot flash system method? I have found this, but do not know how to flash
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To flash stock ROM:
Requisites:
Flashing tool:
github.com/StollD/NOST/releases
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Stock ROM:
fih-firmware.hikaricalyx.com/hmd_en.html#frt
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Phone unplugged from PC.
Phone in fastboot mode.
Process:
Unzip the stock ROM
Open the flash tool
Select the nb0 ROM
Restart the phone in fastboot mode (adb reboot bootloader)
Connect the phone to the USB cable and the PC
Start flashing
After flashing and restarting, it will ask for decryption password.
Type random password.
Click reset phone.
Enjoy.
Do incoming calls work?
I want to install GSI image on my Nokia 1 . My model is TA-1066 with build number 00WW_2_200_SP05. I don't care to get Android 8.1 Oreo version or 9 Pie. I want device to work good and currently on stock 9 Pie it has lot of bugs.
Which version of GSI by phhusson works flawlessly with incoming calls? Is it 8.1 v32?
Also does build number or model matters while installing GSI?

Help to choose the best rom

Hello
Please advise which is the best ROM Android 8.1 or 9.0 at the moment, which has all the features enabled and no bug?
And as OTA is upgradeable, it does not need to be installed through recovery !
Well, one of the reasons that there are many roms, is that different people find different things "best".
Personally, I'm happy running Nitrogen Pie. Still, there are a few reports of bugs on all Pie roms:
- WiFi calling is missing
- encryption doesn't work
- SeLinux is turned off
If you want OTA updates, I think only Lineage has that. That is also a rom with weekly updates, whereas Nitrogen updates when Nitin feels like it, usually once a month. But Lineage has a bit fewer options to tweak things.
Generally, the Nexus 6 roms are all good. Unless you need very specific stuff, I don't think you'll be disappointed no matter what. And even if you are, changing is easy.

Project Treble for XZ1 Compact

I was just surfing random android stuffs on internet and eventually found the "Project Treble"!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/project-treble
After then I installed the app known as "Project Treble" in app store, this app tells you if your device is capable for this project or not. And good thing for us that XZ1 Compact is supported.
I have unlocked my bootloader, so there is no chance for getting any OTA updates.
Well, I was never worried about not getting OTA updates because XZ1 Compact is already a year old and sony will eventually stop rolling the updates after sometime, but unlike sony, Project Treble seems more promising for regular security updates and many more other things that sony will probability never provide.
As for example look at this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/pr...device-development/rom-aosp-extended-t3821934
Here you can see that they are providing kernel 4.9, while we, who are still on kernel 4.4 even after latest pie update.
And this also : https://www.xda-developers.com/google-test-android-q-project-treble-gsi/
Keeping all these apart, I just wanted to ask if any XZ1 Copmact user has tried this "Project Treble" or not??
And if yes then please share your reviews here.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
There's various posts about Project Treble in this device's forum. I'll leave the searching for you.
I didn´t try with the latest Pie firmware yet.
With Android 8.0 as base I was able to run almost every Treble-ROM based von Android 8.1, Android 9.0 bootloops. May be it is working together with the latest Pie rom as well.
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I didn´t try with the latest Pie firmware yet.
With Android 8.0 as base I was able to run almost every Treble-ROM based von Android 8.1, Android 9.0 bootloops. May be it is working together with the latest Pie rom as well.
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Thank you very much for your valuable reply.
Can you please suggest good stable ROM that has working camera and VOLTE ?
Unbounded said:
Thank you very much for your valuable reply.
Can you please suggest good stable ROM that has working camera and VOLTE ?
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Because project treble doesnt affect the stock rom functionality you must do the same as if you were on stock. Install drm fix and Magisk in twrp and permissive kernel patch via Magisk when in Android.
I suggest AOSP from the creator himself or resurrection Rom.
I have got no idea about Volte

Which is most Stable and Secure ROM ?

Hi Guys,
I am currently on official ROM on my Redmi 4X. I want to install custom ROM. I want stability and security
Could someone please suggest the best ROM I should opt for ?
Android 9 based ROMs are more stable than Android 10 but that doesn't meant Android 10 ROMs are not much stable but Android 9 may not have latest security patch. it depends upon your need.
I would suggest you for Havoc OS both based on Android 9 and Android 10.
Just last month Redmi 4X got 4.9 kernel and many Android 10 ROMs started supporting it which is great. in my opinion you should give it a try on latest Havoc OS.
If you want a custom roms for a daily use then Lineage os 16 is the answer. Yes Los dosnt have any "awesome" extra feature but it is very stable and secure. Another good rom for daily use is Pixel Experience.
The two rom I mention may not offer crazy customization, awesome "extra features" or the most up to date kernel (4.9) but for daily usage they are the best imo.
I use Los 16 with no root (22 april build), its clean, light and quick. Most importantly I'm lucky enough to pass the safetynet with it so I can use my device for banking, pokemon go, netlflix, snapchat and many others.
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FYI if you want to use a custom rom you must prepare yourself to not be able to use banking app. Even if you dont root your device you may not be able to pass the safetynet on a custom rom. Safetynet is what google use to check wheter your device is "safe" or not. Of course you can find a some workaround to "bypass" the safetynet but I wouldn't recommend you to do it because it may pose a security concern.
art_17 said:
If you want a custom roms for a daily use then Lineage os 16 is the answer. Yes Los dosnt have any "awesome" extra feature but it is very stable and secure. Another good rom for daily use is Pixel Experience.
The two rom I mention may not offer crazy customization, awesome "extra features" or the most up to date kernel (4.9) but for daily usage they are the best imo.
I use Los 16 with no root (22 april build), its clean, light and quick. Most importantly I'm lucky enough to pass the safetynet with it so I can use my device for banking, pokemon go, netlflix, snapchat and many others.
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FYI if you want to use a custom rom you must prepare yourself to not be able to use banking app. Even if you dont root your device you may not be able to pass the safetynet on a custom rom. Safetynet is what google use to check wheter your device is "safe" or not. Of course you can find a some workaround to "bypass" the safetynet but I wouldn't recommend you to do it because it may pose a security concern.
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Really appreciate your suggestion.
I also narrowed down to Linage OS 16 and pixel experience ROM. I have some follow up question:-
1- You mean other custom ROMs may not be able to pass the safety net. But linage OS 16 able to pass safety net, right?
2- I saw official page but not thread on XDA for official linage OS 16? You directly refereed to official page?
3- Have you tried latest (10th June) build of Linage 10 OS?
3- I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
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Android 9 based ROMs are more stable than Android 10 but that doesn't meant Android 10 ROMs are not much stable but Android 9 may not have latest security patch. it depends upon your need.
I would suggest you for Havoc OS both based on Android 9 and Android 10.
Just last month Redmi 4X got 4.9 kernel and many Android 10 ROMs started supporting it which is great. in my opinion you should give it a try on latest Havoc OS.
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Thanks for suggestion !
What about the Finger print error people are talking about in every android 10 based ROM, is there any solution?
Can you please give me any more details /reference link about 4.9 kernel?
abhishekarora said:
Really appreciate your suggestion.
I also narrowed down to Linage OS 16. I have two follow up question:-
1- You mean other custom ROMs may not be able to pass the safety net. But linage OS 16 able to pass safety net, right?
2- I saw official page but not thread on XDA for official linage OS? You directly refereed to official page?
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1. No, most rom "should" be able to pass the safetynet if you don't root it. But.. it doesnt mean 100% you can pass. Even if you use the same rom as me it doesn't mean you'll pass. In the end it all boils down to "how and what u use" to flash the rom and luck. Im speaking from personal experience. Not long ago in another device, I changed to a custom rom and I cant pass the safetynet even tho I dont root it.
Fyi I just changed to Pixel Experience plus in my redmi 4x and I'm still able to pass the safetynet. It's luck really.
2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...t/rom-2017-08-07lineage-14-1-t3653016/page262
This is the official page for Lineage OS, the title of the thread isnt updated yet but it is the official thread for Los 16.
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1. No, most rom "should" be able to pass the safetynet if you don't root it. But.. it doesnt mean 100% you can pass. Even if you use the same rom as me it doesn't mean you'll pass. In the end it all boils down to "how and what u use" to flash the rom and luck. Im speaking from personal experience. Not long ago in another device, I changed to a custom rom and I cant pass the safetynet even tho I dont root it.
Fyi I just changed to Pixel Experience plus in my redmi 4x and I'm still able to pass the safetynet. It's luck really.
2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/xi...t/rom-2017-08-07lineage-14-1-t3653016/page262
This is the official page for Lineage OS, the title of the thread isnt updated yet but it is the official thread for Los 16.
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Which version of pixel Experience plus you have? have fingerprint issue or any other issue?
I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
abhishekarora said:
Which version of pixel Experience plus you have? have fingerprint issue or any other issue?
I want Android pie based Pixel experience ROM which I suppose is more stable then Android 10 based. But on official page it have only android 10 based download link. Could you pls share the download link for android pie based ROM ?
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Sorry I didnt see question 3 n 4...
3. Yes I tried the 10th june build of Los 16 before switching to pe plus (android 10). The 10th june build as far as I'm aware of is almost the same with the 22th april build. It just have the newest security update and under the hood improvements.
I have 2/16 redmi 4x with goodix fingerprints. I dont have any fingerprints issue with the newest official pixel experience plus. I have tried other android 10 custom roms briefly and I dont see any issue with fingerprints. Ironically when I installed Los 16 (22 april build) my finger print dont work, I restored my persist backup to fix it. No matter what dont forget to back up everything.
I dont have official pixel experience pie. But I do have an unofficial pixel experience plus pie(android 9), I have not tried this rom yet but If you want I can share it.
abhishekarora said:
Thanks for suggestion !
What about the Finger print error people are talking about in every android 10 based ROM, is there any solution?
Can you please give me any more details /reference link about 4.9 kernel?
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There were issue with Goodix fingerprint sensor but as far as i remember it's been solved. my device has FPC fingerprint sensor so had no such issues.
I haven't seen anyone complaining about fingerprint sensor in recent few weeks so i can say it is working fine.
If there is any ROM specific issue with fingerprint that someone talking then i don't know because currently i am on Havoc 2.9 and since last week i haven't checked respected ROMs threads and its discussions as i was busy.
4.9 Kernel been added to Redmi 4X which is greatest thing ever could have happened with device, actually i wasn't expecting it as Redmi 4X is almost a 3 years old device.
4.9 kernel improves overall performance of device and basically you can expect even longer support for Redmi 4X in the future.
here is link, learn more here -> https://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-3-18-reaches-end-of-life-users-urged-to-move-to-linux-4-9-or-4-4-512755.shtml
art_17 said:
Sorry I didnt see question 3 n 4...
3. Yes I tried the 10th june build of Los 16 before switching to pe plus (android 10). The 10th june build as far as I'm aware of is almost the same with the 22th april build. It just have the newest security update and under the hood improvements.
I have 2/16 redmi 4x with goodix fingerprints. I dont have any fingerprints issue with the newest official pixel experience plus. I have tried other android 10 custom roms briefly and I dont see any issue with fingerprints. Ironically when I installed Los 16 (22 april build) my finger print dont work, I restored my persist backup to fix it. No matter what dont forget to back up everything.
I dont have official pixel experience pie. But I do have an unofficial pixel experience plus pie(android 9), I have not tried this rom yet but If you want I can share it.
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Thanks for answering all the question !
I prefer the official one.
How is the battery back up and overall experience on newest official pixel experience plus?
metelhammer said:
There were issue with Goodix fingerprint sensor but as far as i remember it's been solved. my device has FPC fingerprint sensor so had no such issues.
I haven't seen anyone complaining about fingerprint sensor in recent few weeks so i can say it is working fine.
If there is any ROM specific issue with fingerprint that someone talking then i don't know because currently i am on Havoc 2.9 and since last week i haven't checked respected ROMs threads and its discussions as i was busy.
4.9 Kernel been added to Redmi 4X which is greatest thing ever could have happened with device, actually i wasn't expecting it as Redmi 4X is almost a 3 years old device.
4.9 kernel improves overall performance of device and basically you can expect even longer support for Redmi 4X in the future.
here is link, learn more here -> https://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-kernel-3-18-reaches-end-of-life-users-urged-to-move-to-linux-4-9-or-4-4-512755.shtml
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Thanks man !
abhishekarora said:
Thanks for answering all the question !
I prefer the official one.
How is the battery back up and overall experience on newest official pixel experience plus?
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After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Pros:
- as expected, it has more features than Los
- google assistant is quite usable
- surprisingly I don't see much difference in battery life compared to lineage os.
- overall it's pretty good and stable ROM
Cons:
- now I'm using havoc os because it can't read my third Sim card(it can read my other two just fine)
- Small font, the biggest font size it has is still smaller than the default font size in LOS. This issue affects me pretty heavily because I do hours of reading in my phone. In Los I can read for whole days without problems. But in PE after only reading for few hours I'm already at my limit.
Summary: PE is pretty good. But unfortunately it can't read one of my sim.
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
art_17 said:
After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Pros:
- as expected, it has more features than Los
- google assistant is quite usable
- surprisingly I don't see much difference in battery life compared to lineage os.
- overall it's pretty good and stable ROM
Cons:
- now I'm using havoc os because it can't read my third Sim card(it can read my other two just fine)
- Small font, the biggest font size it has is still smaller than the default font size in LOS. This issue affects me pretty heavily because I do hours of reading in my phone. In Los I can read for whole days without problems. But in PE after only reading for few hours I'm already at my limit.
Summary: PE is pretty good. But unfortunately it can't read one of my sim.
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
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Hi,
I finally decided to go with official lineage OS 16.1. Can you pls check me steps? Because, I am hearing lot about persist backups? fingerprint issue etc.
How to take persist backup?
Should I also take ROM backup using TWRP?
1- Unlock boot loader using official Mi software.
2- Flash recovery to TWRP
3- Wipe everything
4- Install ROM
5- Install Gapps
abhishekarora said:
Hi,
I finally decided to go with official lineage OS 16.1. Can you pls check me steps? Because, I am hearing lot about persist backups? fingerprint issue etc.
How to take persist backup?
Should I also take ROM backup using TWRP?
1- Unlock boot loader using official Mi software.
2- Flash recovery to TWRP
3- Wipe everything
4- Install ROM
5- Install Gapps
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Yup...
0. Pick a day where you're absolutely sure you wont need to use your device for a whole day.
1. Unlock bootloader (I unlock my device unofficially cuz I hate waiting period. But I still recommend you to do it the official way).
2. Flash twrp (or any other custom recovery you like)
4. Back up everything via custom recovery. It may take up to 11 gb of storage so make sure you have more than enough free storage in your external sd card. If you dont have enough storage just backup everything except system partition which take a LOT of storage.
5.PRAY TO GOD
5.1. Use lucky charm(s)
5.2. - 5.9. Do everything you think may help with ur luck
6. Wipe Everything
7. Flash rom & gapps(if it isnt included in rom).
9. Reboot.
10. Enjoy... or not.
Note:
- it is what it is. Do it at your own risk.
- if ur fingerprint dont work and nothing happens even tho youve restored your persist back up. Go to thread about Los 16 fingerprind doesnt work created by me, there I gave link to a solution that works for my device.
- If 30-60 minute passes n ur phone hasnt boot then your phone maybe stuck in a bootloop. Go to twrp and reflash or try another rom. For me it usually takes less than 10 minutes to boot.
- if ur phone suddenly dies n you cant boot, fastboot or go to recovery. First, calm down. Take the back of the phone off carefully (you dont want to accidentally tore the fingerprint cable off). Try disconnect your battery from the phone n reconnect it. Then try go to fastboot or recovery.
- if reconnecting the battery dont work use edl mode (just search for edl mode redmi 4x for a guide).
- If edl mode dont work go to phone service. If they cant fix it just buy a new phone.
art_17 said:
After trying PE for a few days here is what I have to say about it
Additional info:
Using Lineage is will encrypt your phone, if you have decrypted your device, flashing Los will automatically encrypt it. Some twrp or other custom recovery can't read encrypted phone.
I use this lovely unofficial twrp by pranaya 2005, the maintainer of Pixel Experience for santoni. MOD EDIT: Telegram link removed, please read the STICKY!
If you have encrypted device, your phone will ask for password. Most android 9 Roms don't ask for password. Most android 10 Roms (pixel experience, havoc) ask.
To fix this issue just go to twrp -> wipe-> format data.
It'll decrypt your device but remember to backup everything cause it'll wipe all data on your device.
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Hi, sorry to bother you. Do you think you can upload the recovery you mentioned? Looks like the original link has died.
abhishekarora said:
Hi Guys,
I am currently on official ROM on my Redmi 4X. I want to install custom ROM. I want stability and security
Could someone please suggest the best ROM I should opt for ?
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Don't do bro....Just stick on official rom... Otherwise you will.regret yourself later
LonerDarke said:
Hi, sorry to bother you. Do you think you can upload the recovery you mentioned? Looks like the original link has died.
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Sure...
TWRP unofficial by pranaya 2005 https://mega.nz/file/PhJAhahC#tRILgEtwDor6X_nwt1-O8v9kxcYGJ1jZJHCOrN7WZ7M
which havoc os version you are using on redmi 4 ?
I Am facing lot of problems with custom Rom such as usb not connecting to pc,middle touch not functioning , calls not working . I've done factory reset my device and everything working fine except phone not connecting to pc.
I don't know how i am possibly going to unlock bootloader it it's not going to connect pc.
i've updated pc driver and work through all solution, i think the problem is with miui stock rom 11 update as the same issue is posted on other threads.
I'm afraid I will also need to switch to a Custom ROM sooner or later, although my experience with santoni Custom ROMs was not too good. There was always something broken - be it Deep Sleep, GPS fix or fingerprint sensor.
At the moment I am trying to decide between
Resurrection Remix 8.6.x (Android 10)
Havoc OS 3.8 (Android 10)
AICP 15.0 (Android 10) - although an older version ~1 yr ago did not work too well
LineageOS 16.0 (Android 9)
and don't know what to choose. Stability and battery runtime are most important, I also need some basic customization, but no senseless bulls**t like animated unicorns running over the screen or things like that.
Which of the beforementioned work(s) well?
If someone still reads this...
I've tried RR and Havoc. I liked both and did not find any major bugs during my short tests, but the fact that full device encryption did not work is a big no-go.
Now I'm on LineageOS 16.0 official (with older Android 9) and despite the fact that there could be some more features and customization possibilities I am very satisfied with stability and performance. Encryption worked when formatting userdata with OrangeFox-R11.0_0-Stable-santoni and afterwards using OrangeFox-R10.0_3-Stable-santoni.

LineageOS 20 Official available?

Hi.
LineageOS 20 is now officially released, but I can't find it for Sony Xperia XZ1c.
Does anyone know where it can be downloaded?
Thanks
There isn't official Los 20 for the XZ1c, but you have the unofficial version by derfelot. It works the same as the official versions for other devices, the only differences being the lack of OTA updates and the time between updates varies. I think we're getting an update to the Los20 rom soon, since I see commits submitted in github.
Hi,
I've installed the previous unofficial version on my XZ1c, and am looking forward to the mentionned unofficial LOS20 update before I install it (I didn't see it was already available at the time I installed 19 in december). I have a question, not too silly I hope :
I've read on LineageOS website that if some developers have a running and reliable LOS version developed for a device that is not yet officially supported, they can submit their version so that then the version becomes "official" and one can get it from LOS website. Is it planned with this unofficial LOS version ? why / why not ?
Thanks
I think It's not official because the devs don't want to involve/don't have the time to become official maintainers, instead releasing updates less frequently. Basically It's a responsibility. That's what I think and personally I'm fine with the unofficial builds, these devs do a lot already.
So in theory, If someone has the skills/time to maintain this device officially, It could become one without an issue.
Let me ask another question (since this is new post):
Which of available ROMs suits You all best and why?
I Was on Havoc 4, then 5, Lineage 17, now I'm back to Havoc 3.11 but this one gets random freezes and battery heats up. Only issue I have with new releases is lack of Android Auto support.
maarek7 said:
Let me ask another question (since this is new post):
Which of available ROMs suits You all best and why?
I Was on Havoc 4, then 5, Lineage 17, now I'm back to Havoc 3.11 but this one gets random freezes and battery heats up. Only issue I have with new releases is lack of Android Auto support.
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Hi, I don't have an answer to your question since so far I've tested only lineage 19. But I'd like to ask you why you chose to go back to Havoc 3.11 even though it heats and freezes ? (Why not a more recent ?)
And what are the differences between Havoc and LOS in everyday use, what did you personnally notice / prefer ?
Arcline said:
I think It's not official because the devs don't want to involve/don't have the time to become official maintainers, instead releasing updates less frequently. Basically It's a responsibility. That's what I think and personally I'm fine with the unofficial builds, these devs do a lot already.
So in theory, If someone has the skills/time to maintain this device officially, It could become one without an issue.
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Ok, indeed it would add more work/responsibility to the developpers.
eve1374 said:
Hi, I don't have an answer to your question since so far I've tested only lineage 19. But I'd like to ask you why you chose to go back to Havoc 3.11 even though it heats and freezes ? (Why not a more recent ?)
And what are the differences between Havoc and LOS in everyday use, what did you personnally notice / prefer ?
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Hi,
I wanted to try and test Android Auto mostly to be honest.
As per differences - Havoc gives You way more options to customize whole phone (appearance), have more features (gestures, status bar, dock etc., you might even forget half of the settings after finishing configuring it), Lineage on the other hand I believe consumes less battery, appears to be quicker, is neat.
But I've tried either Havoc and Lineage on Android 12 and both works smooth. Testing Lineage 20 currently and can't say any bad word. But I'm kind of lucky with custom ROMs, never had any major issues, all worked fine always

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