Hi fellow XDA'rs.
As most you probably know, the way android and most os's works, every time you start up your device some/many apps startup with it.
This certainly bogs things down on startup but also in the long run when they stay resident idling in mem.
Android allows apps to register for events that are then started whenever triggered.
For example, on my phone prior to getting this app, everytime I pressed the camera button Camera, SMS commander (WTF), ChompSMS (WTFF), and Snaphotopro ran code. I could even see it happening in a task manager.
Sometimes apps stay in memory indefinitely after doing something irrelevant to their function like clicking camera/downloading something .
So I disabled everything except my main camera and everything still works the same, but ONLY SnapPhoto runs code and uses memory.
The real place i think autostarts shines is that it not only allows you to selectively disable what starts on boot, but also control what happens on every event.
It's on the market for like 98cents or some crap, and I REALLY think we should support the dev for this top-notch app.
It does way more for me than overclocking etc.. and i'm not advertising LOL.
What do you guys think??
Stock Apps that May Be Unsafe To Disable
Messaging (Disabling Is Known To Hinder SMS-Retrieval)
Google Talk (Disabling Is Known To Cause Trouble with the Market)
Stock Apps That Appears to be Safe to Disable
Maps (Disabled on startup without issues)
Clock (Disabled on start without any issues thus far)
Camera (Disabled Stock camera from running when camera button is pressed without issue)
Pico TTS (A text-to-speech thing that runs code every time an app is installed Disabled without issue)
MP3 Store (Runs code whenever an app is replaced, disabled, no issues)
i used it before, but i noticed that if you disable some apps on startup, it will make those apps not function anymore. for example, i remember i disabled the default message app and a bunch of other "normal" apps, and then i would not get any SMS anymore or some of my apps stopped loading. also even after you uninstall the app, it would not return to normal. they listed this as a bug for the version i tried so i couldnt restore the apps i disabled.
right now i just use advance task manager and put the one click widget on my home screen. so after every event i get in the habit of just clickin that widget and it iwll close all apps. and everything works fine.
That's true. Disabling messaging will prevent you from getting sms's even if you have chompsms, chomp's main functionality is as a front-end to the messaging app, not the core. This is not the apps fault
The reason I made this post is so we could compile a list of apps that are okay to disable and aren't. I forget to mention that in the OP .
I will edit the first post with the list but I need input from the community.
So far..
Messaging (Disabling Is Known To Hinder SMS-Retrieval)
Google Talk (Disabling Is Known To Cause Trouble with the Market)
For the most part disabling stock apps isn't the brightest idea.
Autostarts will warn you when you try to disable a stock component.
Also you can view only non-stock apps, if you don't want to mess with the settings.
Some can be disabled without any apparent trouble.
In my case..
Maps (Disabled on startup without issues)
Clock (Disabled on start without any issues thus far)
Camera (Disabled Stock camera from running when camera button is pressed without issue)
Pico TTS (A text-to-speech thing that runs code every time an app is installed Disabled without issue)
MP3 Store (Runs code whenever an app is replaced, disabled, no issues)
There are several more instances of the same apps that are disabled.
So far no FC's or problems. I've reduced the amount of times I need to end all apps by about 90%
Feel free to help add to the list!
I don't disable any stock apps as they seem to die by themselves after a while. Meanwhile I disable pretty much all 3rd party apps (except things like Sim Checker).
This app is amazing!
By the way, if you disable "Widget updating" it also removes unwanted widgets (I tend not to use any).
Glad it's working well for ya Karolis.
Thanks for the tip!
I havent actually tried it, but i'll remember that if I ever have too many widgets in the list.
Another tip is to check out Menu -> View.
You can enable the unknown's and have more options to disable
Is anyone else annoyed by devs who don't allow their apps to be purchased through your T-Mobile account? Something about putting $0.99 on my credit card annoys me. No biggie, but it would be nice if that option was available for this app.
TeeJay3800 said:
Is anyone else annoyed by devs who don't allow their apps to be purchased through your T-Mobile account? Something about putting $0.99 on my credit card annoys me. No biggie, but it would be nice if that option was available for this app.
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Well what can we do except take it
I use Startup Auditor, works pretty well, compared to Autostarts. I also believe it doesn't list anything that would damage your bootup.
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I use Startup Auditor, works pretty well, compared to Autostarts. I also believe it doesn't list anything that would damage your bootup.
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I hadn't heard of Startup Auditor either, but after reading about it, it seems a little more appealing than Autostarts. Especially the part about not disabling anything important from starting. Thanks!
Startup auditor isn't bad.
It doesn't have even a third of the options as autostarts though.
I tried it and although the GUI was nice, and it worked, the lack of choices made me uninstall it in a matter of minutes.
Also, if you're worried about messing up your phone with autostarts just go to Menu -> View -> Hide System Apps and its pretty much the same thing as startup auditor.
I just purchased Startup Auditor and it seems like a nice app. However, I disabled a few apps and then rebooted. When the reboot finished, some of the apps that I had just disabled were still running! I've e-mailed the dev and will post if I get a response. Has anyone else experienced this with Startup Auditor or any other startup app?
I've been using Autostarts for a while and I really notice the difference on boot up time. Before Autostarts it would take forever to boot up the system, then it would be super sluggish. Now since it doesn't start nearly half the apps on boot, it's much faster.
Some apps I question on why it's doing what it's doing. Like Tunewiki for instance. Why does it need to start when an application is replaced or removed? Cleared those out and everything is much speedier!
A lot of them are triggered by strange things.
Like you said, tunewiki when adding or replacing an app.
I think this is their way of staying in the background, which speeds up opening tunewiki but at the cost of slowing everything else down.
I hate developers that do this..
How does the system determine which apps to run at boot?
Whenever i try to disable the amazon mp3 autostart the program tells me to wait and gets stuck on the please wait screen... Any clue if this is normal operation?
amazon mp3 does not seem to want to be disabled.
edit: i think i figured out the problem with amazon mp3. you have to disable it in two places, once in the after startup but also in the connectivity changed section. also i was having trouble with other programs but i forgot i those had widgets. i think for apps that have widgets will cause those apps to load on start up. if you want to disable them you have to do so in the widgets section. just dont do it for widgets you actually have in use.
Does this app not work on latest superd? i get fc everytime on g1.
Anyone know where there are two (2) Messanger apps AND two (2) Handcent apps listed for after startup?
Seems like I should be able to disable messanger, but from these posts perhaps not.... can I disable handcent with no issues... seems like a text received would trigger it to open with no problems.
Why (and can I stop) is Voice Dialer involved with all changes to applications (installed/removed)?
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Anyone know where there are two (2) Messanger apps AND two (2) Handcent apps listed for after startup?
Seems like I should be able to disable messanger, but from these posts perhaps not.... can I disable handcent with no issues... seems like a text received would trigger it to open with no problems.
Why (and can I stop) is Voice Dialer involved with all changes to applications (installed/removed)?
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I was wondering this too. Maybe it starts to read the app names so it can "read" the filename so if you call it through Voice Search it knows what app to call up. Not sure.
Imho, this app is absolutely amazing.
I had the problem, that although i am using Handcent only, still every text was shown as new in the message application as well (and the icon on the homescreen shows one new message). Now i have removed message completely - only my handcent widget shows any test infos
Besides that, i could disable a lot of useless or at least strange applications starts triggered by certain events.
In this point of view, it's very useful, for Galaxy S as well!
I'm running CM7 and I'm happy with how it performs compared to stock rom. I see improvement in battery and memory usage. So that's good.
However, some apps like facebook, maps, tango etc still appear to become active in the background.
Is there an application which will easily let me manage rights for every app I have on the device? I dont want to freeze them, just change their permissions so they never do anything unless I intentionally start an app.
When I was on stock ROM i tried an app killer with auto kill. So i'd kill apps that were displayed. Check back a few minutes later and everything was back running again..
So to sum up..a good app manager that works nicely with CM7?
Edit: i found something called privacy blocker but I think that wont let me prevent apps from running by themselves....
Edit-2: Nevermind, its not going to work I think...reading this made me realise that some apps me be terminated at start-up, but preventing from booting at a later point is near impossible. Too bad. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=14889
Just ignore them, Android knows how to manage it's RAM effectively.
If you won´t use some apps, use TitaniumBackup (from Market) and freeze apps you are never using.
Hi all, i have a huawei gt3, just upgrade to android 7 emui 5.0, do you guys have a problem with the multi tasking ( recent apps ), the apps sometimes keep missing in recent apps after the phone back from idle, the google txt messages, wechat and gmail, they just gone from recent apps, but it is running in background. I even reset the phone and did not change any setting in battery settings, the apps still missing in recent apps. I tried to lock the apps, still gone in recent apps. is my phone have problem or normal ?
I'm on Honor 7 Lite (NEM-L21C432B356), I love the phone hardware itself but the stock OS (EMUI 5.0.2) is driving me crazy. Background tasks get killed really quickly and often notifications get deleted before I can even see them. I've tried factory reset and everything I've found on Google to no effect.
This isn't about the known push notifications issue. Notifications do work, but then they usually disappear almost immediately. I sometimes hear the notification tone, pick up the phone and unlock it to see a notification icon in the top bar for less than a second and then it's gone. Or if a notification comes in when I'm using the phone, I might see the notification in the list briefly and then it just vanishes.
Background tasks like Twilight or JuiceSSH with statusbar icons seem to get killed really aggressively. This seems to happen more to some apps than others, but I can't figure out any common denominator for the apps. It happens to both online and offline apps.
I've disabled everything related to Huawei's task killing/battery saving settings and added all apps to all exception lists that I've been able to find. Free memory seems to hover consistently around 500-700MB, I don't think I've ever seen free memory dip below 500MB.
It's hard to get good memory stats out of Android 7 without root, but it almost seems like the OS is pre-emptively keeping that 0.5GB of RAM free in case some foreground app wants a lot of memory, and it's willing to pre-emptively kill background tasks, even ones with status bar icons, to achieve it. I don't know if this is true, but Huawei doesn't seem to trust Android's own memory management much in general, with all their dumb "memory cleaning" and "battery optimization" stuff.
I'm at my wits' end here. I rely on seeing all notifications to keep up with reminders and other things, and I need background apps to stay there when I multitask. Custom ROMs aren't really an option, since I want everything on the phone to Just Work without any extra fiddling and hassle and I can't risk my only phone. I appreciate custom ROM developers' work though.
Thanks in advance for any useful answers.
On the P9 Lite with 2 GBs of RAM they are using more than 1.5GBs of zRAM which is crazy. I don't think that's needed at all. If your phone is rooted, you can install a Magisk module called Swap Torpedo to disable swap and maybe change some LMK values. Also you can disable the Power Genie app if you don't have root access.
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If your phone is rooted, you can install a Magisk module called Swap Torpedo to disable swap and maybe change some LMK values. Also you can disable the Power Genie app if you don't have root access.
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I'm not rooted, because unlocking the bootloader and rooting would trip SafetyNet, which I can't afford because I need some apps that depend on SafetyNet and I don't want the whole cat and mouse game with Magisk trying to keep ahead of Google on that.
Thanks a lot for the Power Genie tip (called Power Genius on my phone), I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere else and will try it out. I hadn't noticed that process at all since it's running under AndroidSystem.
Edit: unfortunately the "Disable" button is grayed out on Power Genius, so disabling it doesn't seem like an option. I can stop it manually, but I assume it'll just get autostarted again. I don't seem to have permissions to hide it from adb shell either.
Same problem here (NEM-L51C432). It aggressively kills all background applications. This prevents multitasking. It is annoying to see a lot of RAM is free and will not be used. RAM is there to take use of it and not to keep it free.
Hello,
I noticed the recent apps on my Note 9 will close them self if the running apps are over 5 overnight.
I have already changed every settings possible, disable battery optimization for apps that I don't want to close, locked them in recent apps. changed running background apps to standard limit.
yet it will still every morning I see my gmail, my skype are auto closed from recent apps.
I have already did full clean installation too with latest pie CDJ.
I don't have this problem with the S10+
check under Device care/Auto optimisation