Android 10 Gesture Navigation on ROG Phone 2 - ASUS ROG Phone II Questions & Answers

Currently, Android 10 Gesture Navigation is incompatible with 3rd party launchers. I read that it checks to see if the launcher is your default system launcher before allowing Gesture Navigation. Would the following process be an effective workaround and make Gesture Navigation compatible with a launcher of my choosing?
- Root phone
- Install 3rd party launcher
- Set 3rd party launcher as system app and change permissions accordingly
- Remove stock launcher and it's backup APKs
- Restart device
I have some experience with rooting, but not much, and I've bricked phones before. I've also had highly successful attempts at rooting and tweaking the system. This is an expensive phone, so I would like to get a second opinion before I attempt this.

3y3n33d®°°+ said:
Currently, Android 10 Gesture Navigation is incompatible with 3rd party launchers. I read that it checks to see if the launcher is your default system launcher before allowing Gesture Navigation. Would the following process be an effective workaround and make Gesture Navigation compatible with a launcher of my choosing?
- Root phone
- Install 3rd party launcher
- Set 3rd party launcher as system app and change permissions accordingly
- Remove stock launcher and it's backup APKs
- Restart device
I have some experience with rooting, but not much, and I've bricked phones before. I've also had highly successful attempts at rooting and tweaking the system. This is an expensive phone, so I would like to get a second opinion before I attempt this.
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Posted in the wrong section dude

3y3n33d®°°+ said:
Currently, Android 10 Gesture Navigation is incompatible with 3rd party launchers. I read that it checks to see if the launcher is your default system launcher before allowing Gesture Navigation. Would the following process be an effective workaround and make Gesture Navigation compatible with a launcher of my choosing?
- Root phone
- Install 3rd party launcher
- Set 3rd party launcher as system app and change permissions accordingly
- Remove stock launcher and it's backup APKs
- Restart device
I have some experience with rooting, but not much, and I've bricked phones before. I've also had highly successful attempts at rooting and tweaking the system. This is an expensive phone, so I would like to get a second opinion before I attempt this.
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Use Navigation Gesture(XDA) to disable default Nav bar. Then install Fluid Navigation Gesture app. It's has similar navigation to Android Pie and moreover you can add custom toggles. No root required. Just ADB, for both the apps to work. I am on Android 10 with Nova Launcher and they both work great! Both apps are available on play store. Hope this helps.

I have mine fully working from day 1 with Quickswitch + Lawnchair (prealpha releases, TG channel). Amazing experience

Does it work even after reboot ?
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nipun03 said:
Use Navigation Gesture(XDA) to disable default Nav bar. Then install Fluid Navigation Gesture app. It's has similar navigation to Android Pie and moreover you can add custom toggles. No root required. Just ADB, for both the apps to work. I am on Android 10 with Nova Launcher and they both work great! Both apps are available on play store. Hope this helps.
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Does it work even after reboot ?

bhupeshbb said:
Does it work even after reboot ?
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Does it work even after reboot ?
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Navigation Gesture works(hiding the nav bar). Fluid navigation gesture doesn't. So you need to give the ADB commands again
Edit: Good news! You don't have to give ADB permissions in either. Just cross checked. For Fluid Nav Gesture you just have to disable and enable accessibility services!

nipun03 said:
Navigation Gesture works(hiding the nav bar). Fluid navigation gesture doesn't. So you need to give the ADB commands again
Edit: Good news! You don't have to give ADB permissions in either. Just cross checked. For Fluid Nav Gesture you just have to disable and enable accessibility services!
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Tried that...Fluid gestures is loosing accessibility service permission even if app is cleaned from recents...same thing happens when we restart phone... irritating...

bhupeshbb said:
Tried that...Fluid gestures is loosing accessibility service permission even if app is cleaned from recents...same thing happens when we restart phone... irritating...
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After restarting the phone, yes I agree. You can solve it by disabling and enabling accessibility services. Cleaning it from recent apps shouldn't. It is not happening for me. Did you give adb writing permission?
Do you have "detect battery draining app" and stop if running in background on?

The CN rom has no navigation bar option

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Question [solved]12.0.2.0 Global, no full screen navigation gesture

Hello,
I'm on 12.0.2.0 Global firmware with my Mi11. I have one big problem, one i active full screen navigation gesture, i can confirm geste with the Xiaomi test but once it has finished no way to have gesture navigation and if i reboot phone it put back the navigation bar. Someone has the same problem than me? Is there a setting somewhere to fix that or is it definitively a bad bug. I can't flash because of BL locked and phone don't have to make an update, for it I am updated with the last rom.
Thank you for your answers.
Do you use a third party launcher? Fullscreen gesture don't work with third party launcher on MIUI Android 11. Reported the issue to Xiaomi, they said it's Android fault, but on my OnePlus 8T fullscreen gesture work well even with launcher...
Wow. It was that, crazy thing. Thank you for the trick. Bad move from Xiaomi, even with custom A11 on any device (like my Mix 3) no problem with full screen gesture and 3rd party launcher.
About third party launcher , this is the email I got from Nova regarding gestures
"Hello,
Thank you for contacting Nova Launcher support. Below is a lot of information that we encourage you to read completely as it will answer your questions or other questions you might have related to the full system gestures in Android 10, Android 11 and going forward.
PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL!
Home/Default Launcher Constantly Being Reset
If you are experiencing issues with Nova not staying as the default launcher on Android 10 or Android 11, these first steps are for you specifically.
If you are having issues with Nova staying as your default launcher, try this: Reboot your device. Or you can try Phone Settings -> Apps -> Default Apps -> Home App -> Nova Launcher. You might need to do this several times and reboot several times for this to fix the issue.
This is a very well known issue on Samsung and other devices, but specifically with new updates directly from Samsung starting as early as December 1st, 2020.
If this doesn't fix your issue, then you need to contact Samsung directly as the issue is on their end, with their update and has nothing to do with Nova or any other launcher, as this issue will happen in all 3rd party launchers.
The issue above isn't just for Samsung users, though the issue happens on every Samsung device that's gotten an update since December 1st, 2020.
Everything mentioned below is still present with the release of Android 11 on September 8th, 2020. Google has made it very clear that they have no plans to completely fix gesture-related issues any time in the near or even distant future.
Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android (stated March 2019).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android 10 and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google have now made it clear that they have no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
Notable issues with gestures on third party launchers include, but not limited to:
Close all/Clear app button not appearing(scroll all the way to verify it's not there)
Not being able to tap icons for a short time after returning to the home screen
Animations not being as fluid as expected
Screen blinks
Home screen icons blink
Home screen refreshes
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as we have absolutely no control over it whatsoever.
Samsung Users
Samsung has allowed full system gestures to be used within 3rd party launchers with their One UI 2.5 update. This means you can now enable and use gestures, but there are still several issues regarding animations and the like.
As stated, there is nothing that Nova (or indeed any other 3rd party launcher) can do about this and it is ultimately up to Google and OEMs to fix navigation gestures.
Google's statement and Nova's statement
Google: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/07/android-q-beta-5-update.html
Nova: https://help.teslacoilapps.com/faq/gesture-navigation
Enabling Gestures
As of the December 2019 Security Patch from Google, you can now enable full system gestures within 3rd party launchers on Pixel devices. However, the caveat of this is that you are likely to experience the issues mentioned above. To reiterate, this is still all up to Google to fix at some point in the future and to get things working 100% the way everyone expects them to be.
If and when you experience issues with gestures on 3rd party launchers, we highly recommend you contact Google and not Nova Support because, as we have said, there is absolutely nothing we can do to fix Google's problems.
Devices From Other Manufacturers
As some members in this Discord have noticed, some devices from certain manufacturers provide a reasonably usable experience with gestures. In particular, OnePlus devices on Oxygen OS 10 and above behave reasonably well with gestures.
This is because OnePlus (and other manufacturers) are using their own implementation of gestures rather than Google's which means that you might not get all of the issues referenced above. However, just like before, we (Nova) have no control over these and any issues you do experience should be brought up with the manufacturer and not us.
Action Launcher's False Claims
Action Launcher made an announcement back in late December 2019 which is completely misleading. When stating that they support system gestures, They are referring to the back swipe edit zones and other features within the app not interfering with Android's own system gestures.
As stated before, full system gestures are completely controlled by Android and are not something a launcher can just suddenly add support for or change in any way. When using gestures with Action Launcher, you'll quickly notice that the experience has just as many issues as it does with Nova or any other 3rd party launcher, reiterating the point that it is not something that any third party launcher can change or improve."
Well it is combined default of Google and Xiaomi. Google let's Xiaomi to fix if they want but Xiaomi (and Nova, for what I read) blames Google to no doing it. I don't understand, if it is Google default, why on custom A11 rom i have no problems with gesture navigation with Nova.
Hum... This launcher is a sh*t. Icons play hide game...
Problem solved for me with Fluid NG, i am out of Mi Launcher Clown Edition and go back to Nova with gestures.
Azev said:
Problem solved for me with Fluid NG, i am out of Mi Launcher Clown Edition and go back to Nova with gestures.
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I'm sorry, if I may know did you solve it by installing FNG and..? Rooting?
I installed FNG and gestures are working, but I'm stuck with the navbar. If I enable full screen gestures via Settings, I lose them and get back the ugly navbar as soon as I lock the screen or reboot.
I gave FNG all permissions + ADB WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS permission, but still despite the gestures working there is no way of getting rid of the navbar..
Or are you stuck in the same situation too? (Nova with full screen gestures but navbar still visible)?
Thanks in advance!
zqref said:
I'm sorry, if I may know did you solve it by installing FNG and..? Rooting?
I installed FNG and gestures are working, but I'm stuck with the navbar. If I enable full screen gestures via Settings, I lose them and get back the ugly navbar as soon as I lock the screen or reboot.
I gave FNG all permissions + ADB WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS permission, but still despite the gestures working there is no way of getting rid of the navbar..
Or are you stuck in the same situation too? (Nova with full screen gestures but navbar still visible)?
Thanks in advance!
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Activate gesture on Xiaomi settings and no more navbar. There is no navbar on screenshot and this is Nova
Azev said:
Activate gesture on Xiaomi settings and no more navbar. There is no navbar on screenshot and this is Nova
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Thanks, sadly this doesn't work for me. As I mentioned, if I activate this on the xiaomi settings the result is that it resets upon any screenlock or device restart, giving back the navigation bar.
zqref said:
Thanks, sadly this doesn't work for me. As I mentioned, if I activate this on the xiaomi settings the result is that it resets upon any screenlock or device restart, giving back the navigation bar.
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Have you found a solution for this? Cause i face the same problem
Maybe this works for you, at least it works for me on MI11 on Xiaomi.eu A12 rom.
[Guide] Changing Recents Provider on Miui 12.5+ [QuickStep][Miui QuickSwitch]
Hello everyone Intro: i was looking for some stuff the other day and I stumbled upon GApps Plus for Miui, one of the mods was switching to AOSP recents after looking into it, it seems that its possible to use QuickSwtich or other Launchers as...
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Solution:
You need root+magisk
install magiskhide props config
then using emulator (Termux etc.)
"su" then
"props" then
press "5" then
press "n" for new custom prop
add this line below to prop
Code:
qemu.hw.mainkeys
then set value "1"
then restart. that's it. no more navbar. (also fullscreen)
and I recommend you "Edge Gestures" for fullscreen gestures using Nova launcher or others.
garfi said:
Solution:
You need root+magisk
install magiskhide props config
then using emulator (Termux etc.)
"su" then
"props" then
press "5" then
press "n" for new custom prop
add this line below to prop
Code:
qemu.hw.mainkeys
then set value "1"
then restart. that's it. no more navbar. (also fullscreen)
and I recommend you "Edge Gestures" for fullscreen gestures using Nova launcher or others.
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yeah but the problem is that if i root device i will loose access to my Bank app (FINECO) and G Pay too.
Do you have a working tested valit method to have all Safetynet services up and running there ?
ph1dft said:
Maybe this works for you, at least it works for me on MI11 on Xiaomi.eu A12 rom.
[Guide] Changing Recents Provider on Miui 12.5+ [QuickStep][Miui QuickSwitch]
Hello everyone Intro: i was looking for some stuff the other day and I stumbled upon GApps Plus for Miui, one of the mods was switching to AOSP recents after looking into it, it seems that its possible to use QuickSwtich or other Launchers as...
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I'd love to root my phone but I just got my F3 a week ago and I'm afraid that I'll messed up so i think I'mma stay unroot till my warranty is out.

Question Do gestures work with 3rd party launchers on miui?

About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
shadow1000 said:
About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
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On MIUI, Gestures do not work with nova or any third party launcher.
but on AOSP custom roms works normally.
I very much doubt this is a bug. you are supposed to use the system launcher and consume the ads
cmmike1 said:
I very much doubt this is a bug. you are supposed to use the system launcher and consume the ads
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Well that is true, its just sad & pathetic, is there any way to circumvent this issue?
My guessing is, that Xiaomi disabled the android system gestures and has their own gestures implemented into the stock launcher. So removing the launcher, removes the gesture input.
Why I think that? Because #1, Xiaomi used to implement gesture navigation in miui even before Google implemented them in android. #2 the settings for gestures in miui 12 are inside the launcher menu.
I think that some kind of magisk module, which would enable/install the stock android gestures, would be possible.
shadow1000 said:
About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
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You can use full screen navigation launcher app. It works perfectly for me. Here is a video from youtube that helped me with that.
Cliffezaki said:
You can use full screen navigation launcher app. It works perfectly for me. Here is a video from youtube that helped me with that.
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This is one way to do it, but it gets annoying after a while as sometimes (i.e. pressing back rather than home, recent apps, a few other ways) will go back to the default launcher rather than the 3rd party launcher; also you are running two launchers all the time which isn't the best.
A better way is: set third party launcher + FNG, then use ADB to hide the navigation bar.
OakaO said:
This is one way to do it, but it gets annoying after a while as sometimes (i.e. pressing back rather than home, recent apps, a few other ways) will go back to the default launcher rather than the 3rd party launcher; also you are running two launchers all the time which isn't the best.
A better way is: set third party launcher + FNG, then use ADB to hide the navigation bar.
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How do you use adb to do that?
Cliffezaki said:
How do you use adb to do that?
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CUSTOM LAUNCHER GESTURES

Question Disable navigation buttons miui global 12.5.8

With the new update, miui global 12.5.8, the system no longer allows gestures AND third party launchers and forces default launcher to the system launcher if gesture navigation is selected. 3rd party launchers work with button navigation, and FGN. However, with 3rd party and FNG the navigation buttons persist. Is there anyway around this (i.e. 3rd party launcher with gesture navigation without navigation buttons persisting).
I have tried disabling the miui system launcher through adb, but it doesn't seem to work, launcher is still running.
Selecting the default launcher as system launcher, selecting gesture navigation and then launching 3rd party launcher and FNG gets the desired outcome, however the system launcher is still running/ selected as default (gesture for home button swaps back to system launcher - can remap home gesture to open 3rd party launcher as a work around for the home button).
Thanks,
Found a solution, but doesn't stick with power cycle:
adb shell settings put global force_fsg_nav_bar 1
OakaO said:
Found a solution, but doesn't stick with power cycle:
adb shell settings put global force_fsg_nav_bar 1
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Hey thanks mate, I try this and it looks successful, but can not keep when we reboot, any solutions for that bro, I also report issue to Xiaomi / Nova as well, is this Android 11's issue ?
Dears
I'm experiencing the same issue as OakaO with MIUI 12.5.8: cannot even set gestures if a 3-party launcher is being in use.
I've read this interesting thread https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/third-party-launcher-gestures.62948/ and tried the two solutions described there.
They works but have some side effects.
First solution:
The usage of the LADB app with the command settings put global force_fsg_nav_bar 1 works but has the side effect that you lose any theme status bar you may have configured: the status bar gets back to the one of the stock theme.
In addition it seems to not be resilient to reboot so after any reboot you have to enable ADB stuff and so on (for security reason, I prefer to not have them always enabled)
(I don't like that so I skipped this solution)
Second solution:
the usage of the adb command adb shell cmd overlay enable com.android.internal.systemui.navbar.gestural works too but (as stated in the thread) it has the side effect that you still see the gesture bar (which reduces also the screen size) but you totally lose the bottom gestures (even if you use Fluid Navigation Gestures app)
(I don't like that so I skipped this solution too)
At the end..... I lose the game and I'm using now my 3-party launcher with 3 navigation buttons which gives me a really ugly effect especially because I use also klwp theme and the 3 buttons are really bad.
After that I wrote on MI community (here the thread https://c.mi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3943484&page=1&extra=#pid20869921 ).
I'm still waiting for a further feedback but I'm worried that this behaviour is not a bug but a clear choice or strategy from Xiaomi.
Let's see what will happen.
bye
I don't want the nav bar but the software buttons.. the problem is that they are white and autohide does not work in most apps.
any solution?

Question How to get rid of Nav Bar on Android 11, MIUI 12.5.8 with NOVA Launcher

Hi,
I know this is a topic that has come a few times. I've been researching this for hours, but I'm at my end's wits. If anyone can solve it, I'd be grateful!
Phone: Redmi Note 10 Pro
My setup: NOVA LAUNCHER
MIUI: 12.5.8
Android 11
FNG app (Fluid Navigation Gestures)
My goal: to have navigation gestures with Nova Launcher without the bottom Android Nav Bar
I am aware that since Android 11, they've blocked the usage of system gestures when using custom launchers (why they did that, I still don't understand, but that's irrelevant.) Up until last night when MIUI updated itself automatically, my current config was working:
NOVA + FNG + switch system settings from BUTTONS to GESTURES.
This was working fine: in the phone settings switching to "GESTURES" would hide the bottom navigation button bar, and FNG would be activating the gestures in place of the system.
But last night's MIUI update now increased the level of difficulty. It is now impossible in the phone settings to select GESTURES when a custom launcher is active. When NOVA is the selected default launcher, tapping on GESTURES in system settings gives this message: "Can't use full screen gestures with third party launchers. Switch to the system launcher and turn on full screen gestures?". Tapping OK will disable NOVA and activate full screen gestures.
So, I'm now stuck with BUTTONS NAV BAR, which not only takes real estate space on the screen, but is just damn annoying.
I have tried using ABD command I found in another thread to hide the Buttons Nav Bar:
adb shell pm grant com.fb.fluid android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
But this does not work. I rebooted and all, but buttons are still there.
I do not wish to root the phone because I have never done it in the past, and somehow I fear it would introduce security issues. So I'm desperately trying to find another solution to hide the buttons nav bar.
Any idea?
I have to say, I really do not understand why they are forcing people to use stock launcher with gestures. Why is it a problem that custom launchers use system gestures in the first place? One reason I always enjoyed Android over iPhone is the fact that the system was more open compared to Apple who always made their system so closed and contrived. But I have to say that lately, I have found Android to be more and more annoying when it comes to customization.
Martin
nope. it doesnt work.
let me know if u guyz find a solution for stock miui.
one of the reason i put pixel exp on mine.
i have a mi9t pro with 12.5miui aswell.
Martinperreault said:
Hi,
I know this is a topic that has come a few times. I've been researching this for hours, but I'm at my end's wits. If anyone can solve it, I'd be grateful!
Phone: Redmi Note 10 Pro
My setup: NOVA LAUNCHER
MIUI: 12.5.8
Android 11
FNG app (Fluid Navigation Gestures)
My goal: to have navigation gestures with Nova Launcher without the bottom Android Nav Bar
I am aware that since Android 11, they've blocked the usage of system gestures when using custom launchers (why they did that, I still don't understand, but that's irrelevant.) Up until last night when MIUI updated itself automatically, my current config was working:
NOVA + FNG + switch system settings from BUTTONS to GESTURES.
This was working fine: in the phone settings switching to "GESTURES" would hide the bottom navigation button bar, and FNG would be activating the gestures in place of the system.
But last night's MIUI update now increased the level of difficulty. It is now impossible in the phone settings to select GESTURES when a custom launcher is active. When NOVA is the selected default launcher, tapping on GESTURES in system settings gives this message: "Can't use full screen gestures with third party launchers. Switch to the system launcher and turn on full screen gestures?". Tapping OK will disable NOVA and activate full screen gestures.
So, I'm now stuck with BUTTONS NAV BAR, which not only takes real estate space on the screen, but is just damn annoying.
I have tried using ABD command I found in another thread to hide the Buttons Nav Bar:
adb shell pm grant com.fb.fluid android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
But this does not work. I rebooted and all, but buttons are still there.
I do not wish to root the phone because I have never done it in the past, and somehow I fear it would introduce security issues. So I'm desperately trying to find another solution to hide the buttons nav bar.
Any idea?
I have to say, I really do not understand why they are forcing people to use stock launcher with gestures. Why is it a problem that custom launchers use system gestures in the first place? One reason I always enjoyed Android over iPhone is the fact that the system was more open compared to Apple who always made their system so closed and contrived. But I have to say that lately, I have found Android to be more and more annoying when it comes to customization.
Martin
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Try uninstalling update of system launcher and use fng
Martinperreault said:
Hi,
I know this is a topic that has come a few times. I've been researching this for hours, but I'm at my end's wits. If anyone can solve it, I'd be grateful!
Phone: Redmi Note 10 Pro
My setup: NOVA LAUNCHER
MIUI: 12.5.8
Android 11
FNG app (Fluid Navigation Gestures)
My goal: to have navigation gestures with Nova Launcher without the bottom Android Nav Bar
I am aware that since Android 11, they've blocked the usage of system gestures when using custom launchers (why they did that, I still don't understand, but that's irrelevant.) Up until last night when MIUI updated itself automatically, my current config was working:
NOVA + FNG + switch system settings from BUTTONS to GESTURES.
This was working fine: in the phone settings switching to "GESTURES" would hide the bottom navigation button bar, and FNG would be activating the gestures in place of the system.
But last night's MIUI update now increased the level of difficulty. It is now impossible in the phone settings to select GESTURES when a custom launcher is active. When NOVA is the selected default launcher, tapping on GESTURES in system settings gives this message: "Can't use full screen gestures with third party launchers. Switch to the system launcher and turn on full screen gestures?". Tapping OK will disable NOVA and activate full screen gestures.
So, I'm now stuck with BUTTONS NAV BAR, which not only takes real estate space on the screen, but is just damn annoying.
I have tried using ABD command I found in another thread to hide the Buttons Nav Bar:
adb shell pm grant com.fb.fluid android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
But this does not work. I rebooted and all, but buttons are still there.
I do not wish to root the phone because I have never done it in the past, and somehow I fear it would introduce security issues. So I'm desperately trying to find another solution to hide the buttons nav bar.
Any idea?
I have to say, I really do not understand why they are forcing people to use stock launcher with gestures. Why is it a problem that custom launchers use system gestures in the first place? One reason I always enjoyed Android over iPhone is the fact that the system was more open compared to Apple who always made their system so closed and contrived. But I have to say that lately, I have found Android to be more and more annoying when it comes to customization.
Martin
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In my opinion root it and try other ROMs also miui, if you like, you can use it, but with more personally control. Security problem with root?! Only if you allow it....or if you root without read about some hours.
Murtazaraza said:
Try uninstalling update of system launcher and use fng
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How do I do that?
Laptapper said:
In my opinion root it and try other ROMs also miui, if you like, you can use it, but with more personally control. Security problem with root?! Only if you allow it....or if you root without read about some hours.
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Thanks for the suggestion.
What link would you recommend I read to inform myself on the proper way to root my phone, and to read on the pros and cons of rooting? Thank you.
Martinperreault said:
How do I do that?
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Go to settings then apps then manage apps search system launcher and uninstall update if available
Martinperreault said:
Hi,
I know this is a topic that has come a few times. I've been researching this for hours, but I'm at my end's wits. If anyone can solve it, I'd be grateful!
Phone: Redmi Note 10 Pro
My setup: NOVA LAUNCHER
MIUI: 12.5.8
Android 11
FNG app (Fluid Navigation Gestures)
My goal: to have navigation gestures with Nova Launcher without the bottom Android Nav Bar
I am aware that since Android 11, they've blocked the usage of system gestures when using custom launchers (why they did that, I still don't understand, but that's irrelevant.) Up until last night when MIUI updated itself automatically, my current config was working:
NOVA + FNG + switch system settings from BUTTONS to GESTURES.
This was working fine: in the phone settings switching to "GESTURES" would hide the bottom navigation button bar, and FNG would be activating the gestures in place of the system.
But last night's MIUI update now increased the level of difficulty. It is now impossible in the phone settings to select GESTURES when a custom launcher is active. When NOVA is the selected default launcher, tapping on GESTURES in system settings gives this message: "Can't use full screen gestures with third party launchers. Switch to the system launcher and turn on full screen gestures?". Tapping OK will disable NOVA and activate full screen gestures.
So, I'm now stuck with BUTTONS NAV BAR, which not only takes real estate space on the screen, but is just damn annoying.
I have tried using ABD command I found in another thread to hide the Buttons Nav Bar:
adb shell pm grant com.fb.fluid android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
But this does not work. I rebooted and all, but buttons are still there.
I do not wish to root the phone because I have never done it in the past, and somehow I fear it would introduce security issues. So I'm desperately trying to find another solution to hide the buttons nav bar.
Any idea?
I have to say, I really do not understand why they are forcing people to use stock launcher with gestures. Why is it a problem that custom launchers use system gestures in the first place? One reason I always enjoyed Android over iPhone is the fact that the system was more open compared to Apple who always made their system so closed and contrived. But I have to say that lately, I have found Android to be more and more annoying when it comes to customization.
Martin
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I got a new app vivid navigation gestures (paid app)its working for me you can see it in the attached screenshot
Murtazaraza said:
I got a new app vivid navigation gestures (paid app)its working for me you can see it in the attached screenshot
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Does the app "vivid navigation gestures" successfully hide the navigation button bar with Android 11 and the latest MIUI 12.5.8 using Nova? I see in your screenshots that the bar is gone and you are using Nova, but are you also using MIUI 12.5.8 with Android 11?
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Does the app "vivid navigation gestures" successfully hide the navigation button bar with Android 11 and the latest MIUI 12.5.8 using Nova? I see in your screenshots that the bar is gone and you are using Nova, but are you also using MIUI 12.5.8 with Android 11?
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Yes i am on MIUI 12.5.8 global with A11 and without root and all
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Yes i am on MIUI 12.5.8 global with A11 and without root and all
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I installed Vivid Navigation Gestures and I followed the ABD command instructions, and it doesn't work for me. The buttons bar is still visible at the bottom of the screen, even after a reboot of the phone. Redmi note 10 Pro. Unfortunately this solution doesn't work for me. I'm glad it works for you, and thank you for the suggestion. It was worth a try.
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I installed Vivid Navigation Gestures and I followed the ABD command instructions, and it doesn't work for me. The buttons bar is still visible at the bottom of the screen, even after a reboot of the phone. Redmi note 10 Pro. Unfortunately this solution doesn't work for me. I'm glad it works for you, and thank you for the suggestion. It was worth a try.
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Try after giving this permissions with accessibility and draw over other app permission and check system launcher version also
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Try after giving this permissions with accessibility and draw over other app permission and check system launcher version also
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All permissions are ok.
My system Launcher version is more recent than yours: release-4.21.15.3172-08270942
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All permissions are ok.
My system Launcher version is more recent than yours: release-4.21.15.3172-08270942
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Then system launcher is causing the issue i think
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Then system launcher is causing the issue i think
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I think so too... Because like i explained in my original message I normally was able to hide the nav bar by simply choosing "gestures" in the phone settings, but then one update happened and it became impossible to use that trick anymore. Since then, I have tried ABD command with FNG gesture app and that didn't work either. And now ABD command did not work with Vivid App.
So strange that they make it so hard to use gestures and hide nav bar when we use a third party launcher. Why don't they want us to use a third party launcher? It's the whole point of Android to be able to customize it... This is pretty crazy.
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I think so too... Because like i explained in my original message I normally was able to hide the nav bar by simply choosing "gestures" in the phone settings, but then one update happened and it became impossible
to use that trick anymore. Since then, I have tried ABD command with FNG gesture app and that didn't work either. And now ABD command did not work with Vivid App.
So strange that they make it so hard to use gestures and hide nav bar when we use a third party launcher. Why don't they want us to use a third party launcher? It's the whole point of Android to be able to customize it... This is pretty crazy.
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Just uninstall update of system launcher and i think it will work
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Just uninstall update of system launcher and i think it will work
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I cannot seem to find a way to uninstall the launcher update.
use setedit n change value from force_fsg_nav_bar to 1 (on global tab)
Like this
Hide navigation buttons, no MIUI gestures.
If you use something like Piecontrol, Gesture Control or any other app to navigate your phone you might want to disable the navigation buttons. As /system can't be rw mounted we can't edit "build.prop" 1. Magisk, install "MagiskHide Props...
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Martinperreault said:
Hi,
I know this is a topic that has come a few times. I've been researching this for hours, but I'm at my end's wits. If anyone can solve it, I'd be grateful!
Phone: Redmi Note 10 Pro
My setup: NOVA LAUNCHER
MIUI: 12.5.8
Android 11
FNG app (Fluid Navigation Gestures)
My goal: to have navigation gestures with Nova Launcher without the bottom Android Nav Bar
I am aware that since Android 11, they've blocked the usage of system gestures when using custom launchers (why they did that, I still don't understand, but that's irrelevant.) Up until last night when MIUI updated itself automatically, my current config was working:
NOVA + FNG + switch system settings from BUTTONS to GESTURES.
This was working fine: in the phone settings switching to "GESTURES" would hide the bottom navigation button bar, and FNG would be activating the gestures in place of the system.
But last night's MIUI update now increased the level of difficulty. It is now impossible in the phone settings to select GESTURES when a custom launcher is active. When NOVA is the selected default launcher, tapping on GESTURES in system settings gives this message: "Can't use full screen gestures with third party launchers. Switch to the system launcher and turn on full screen gestures?". Tapping OK will disable NOVA and activate full screen gestures.
So, I'm now stuck with BUTTONS NAV BAR, which not only takes real estate space on the screen, but is just damn annoying.
I have tried using ABD command I found in another thread to hide the Buttons Nav Bar:
adb shell pm grant com.fb.fluid android.permission.WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS
But this does not work. I rebooted and all, but buttons are still there.
I do not wish to root the phone because I have never done it in the past, and somehow I fear it would introduce security issues. So I'm desperately trying to find another solution to hide the buttons nav bar.
Any idea?
I have to say, I really do not understand why they are forcing people to use stock launcher with gestures. Why is it a problem that custom launchers use system gestures in the first place? One reason I always enjoyed Android over iPhone is the fact that the system was more open compared to Apple who always made their system so closed and contrived. But I have to say that lately, I have found Android to be more and more annoying when it comes to customization.
Martin
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Hi, this helped me: by simply installing this zip in TWRP => TWRP_Hide_Navigation_Bar_v1.0.zip
INFO: Installing the zip again will unhide the navigation bar (revert the change).
EDIT: My zip (to install in TWRP) doesn't work for devices shipped with Android 10(+). Workaround: Magisk! Install Magisk and this Magisk module => Hide_Navigation_Bar_v1.0-Magisk.zip
.., but to another phone (Redmi T9 Pro) Miui 12.5.6
( https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads...2-5-stable-release.56191/page-255#post-610901 )

How To Guide [No Root] Gesture navigation on third party launchers

Hello, everyone.
Lately I have been looking for a way to disable navigation bar on Stock rom, and use gestures on third party launchers, for example on Nova launcher. After trying different things, here what worked for me:
First, download Fluid N. G. app and set it (make sure the app stays working and the battery saver doesn't kill it). Don't hide the navbar using Fluid N. G., not only this won't work, but also will cause the navbar to reappear after every unlock. So, don't use the hide option from Fluid N. G. (see the screenshot below).
You also need Tasker app, So install it.
Since the device is not rooted, you need to grant some permissions for the Tasker app, in order to work. To do this, follow the instructions Here.
Once done, open Tasker app, select profiles and click "Import profile". The file that you need to import is in attachements. Enable it, reboot your device (wait for few seconds) and Voilà !.
I tried to keep it as simple as possible. The results are attached below. Good luck!
Mechalikh said:
Hello, everyone.
Lately I have been looking for a way to disable navigation bar on Stock rom, and use gestures on third party launchers, for example on Nova launcher. After trying different things, here what worked for me:
First, download Fluid N. G. app and set it ( make sure the app stays working and the battery saver doesn't kill it).
You also need Tasker app, So install it.
Since the device is not rooted, you need to grand some permissions for the Tasker app, in order to work. To do this, follow the instructions here :
https://tasker.joaoapps.com/userguide/en/help/ah_secure_setting_grant.html
Once done, open tasker app, select profiles and click "import profile". The file that you need to import is in attachement. Enable it, reboot your device (wait for few seconds) and Voilà !.
I tried to keep it as simple as possible, good luck!
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Thank you @Mechalikh for sharing this hack, but what should I do if my phone is rooted? I have an redmi note 10 pro
Hellera said:
Thank you @Mechalikh for sharing this hack, but what should I do if my phone is rooted? I have an redmi note 10 pro
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Although this one will work also on rooted devices, I believe there are better alternatives (for example editing build.prop..etc).
Here is a video showing the results
Mechalikh said:
Although this one will work also on rooted devices, I believe there are better alternatives (for example editing build.prop..etc).
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Wow, it will be easier to edit build.prop... but I dont know what lines to edit... or any other easier alternative... Can you help me, please? Thank you.
Can you attach your build.prop?
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Can you attach your build.prop?
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@Mechalikh, I tried what you said above but when is about to import the profile in Tasker it give an error, "profile not found"
By the way, the profile extension must be .prj.xml not .prf.xml.
I would also like to know more about hiding navigation buttons with build prop. I am on Miui EU rom on sweetin
I wish there was another way to keep fng running in background, instead of in recents always
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@Mechalikh, I tried what you said above but when is about to import the profile in Tasker it give an error, "profile not found"
By the way, the profile extension must be .prj.xml not .prf.xml.
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Same error for me too
Tried qemu.hw.mainkeys 1 in build prop editor but it won't save.
Also, @Mechalikh I clicked on import project, but it says 'no profile found'.
Hellera said:
@Mechalikh, I tried what you said above but when is about to import the profile in Tasker it give an error, "profile not found"
By the way, the profile extension must be .prj.xml not .prf.xml.
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I don't get it, I'm on Tasker version 5.15.12 ( the latest one). The extentions are : prf.xml for profiles and tsk.xml for tasks. Anyway HERE is how to do it manually.
Hide navigation buttons, no MIUI gestures.
If you use something like Piecontrol, Gesture Control or any other app to navigate your phone you might want to disable the navigation buttons. As /system can't be rw mounted we can't edit "build.prop" 1. Magisk, install "MagiskHide Props...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Hide navigation buttons, no MIUI gestures.
If you use something like Piecontrol, Gesture Control or any other app to navigate your phone you might want to disable the navigation buttons. As /system can't be rw mounted we can't edit "build.prop" 1. Magisk, install "MagiskHide Props...
forum.xda-developers.com
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This doesn't work on Miui 13 EU
Mechalikh said:
I don't get it, I'm on Tasker version 5.15.12 ( the latest one). The extentions are : prf.xml for profiles and tsk.xml for tasks. Anyway HERE is how to do it manually.
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Thanks for your help. I do have root access but no idea how to do it through build props, so I will stick with this Tasker method. Cheers!
One thing though, FNG bottom gesture isn't as responsive as Miui gesture. Takes like a second to open recents. Found a good FNG file and imported its settings. Better now.
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This doesn't work on Miui 13 EU
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Not tested this myself yet, but i doubt this was removed on Android 12 or Miui 13, this is kind of a basic function.
That build.prop is telling the OS the device has hardware keys for navigation. I've been using this for perhaps 10 years now .
Thank you @Mechalikh for sharing this, I watched the video and I succeded it with Smart launcher... I'm using Smart launcher for years...
In my case it wasn't necesary the second task because the phone is rooted.
Edit: only one question please... Is anymore fluid navigation app needded after this?
Hellera said:
Thank you @Mechalikh for sharing this, I watched the video and I succeded it with Smart launcher... I'm using Smart launcher for years...
In my case it wasn't necesary the second task because the phone is rooted.
Edit: only one question please... Is anymore fluid navigation app needded after this?
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This will only hide the navigation bar, gestures will not work, so before doing that, you need to install a gesture navigation app like Fluid n g.
From my understanding, in android 11 google disabled navigation gestures when not using the system launcher. Probably because third party launchers failed to integrate those animations correctly, which made them look laggy ( same when using fluid n. g. unfortunately)
You can see that in android 10 phones. When you change the launcher, the gestures will remain but there will be no animations.
So this is probably their way to avoid it.
if you look in the system Ui code you will find something like:
if( the launcher is system launcher)
enable gestures
else disable them.
if this is the case. A patched system ui app should do the job. i'll root my device this monday, and try to decompile the systemUI app to see if that's the source of our problem.
Mechalikh said:
This will only hide the navigation bar, gestures will not work, so before doing that, you need to install a gesture navigation app like Fluid n g.
From my understanding, in android 11 google disabled navigation gestures when not using the system launcher. Probably because third party launchers failed to integrate those animations correctly, which made them look laggy ( same when using fluid n. g. unfortunately)
You can see that in android 10 phones. When you change the launcher, the gestures will remain but there will be no animations.
So this is probably their way to avoid it.
if you look in the system Ui code you will find something like:
if( the launcher is system launcher)
enable gestures
else disable them.
if this is the case. A patched system ui app should do the job. i'll root my device this monday, and try to decompile the systemUI app to see if that's the source of our problem.
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Source :
Android Q beta 5 won't let you use gesture navigation on third-party launchers
Android Q introduces a new gesture navigation control, but Google stops you from using third-party launcher apps with it.
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well they said it has been the case since android 10. But i had a "honor" phone with gestures working fine on android 10 (but of course with no animations when using another launcher) .
Anyway, read that xda article to fully anderstand the issue.
Frag1le said:
Not tested this myself yet, but i doubt this was removed on Android 12 or Miui 13, this is kind of a basic function.
That build.prop is telling the OS the device has hardware keys for navigation. I've been using this for perhaps 10 years now .
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My build prop editor gives an error when I try to save it. Bummer for me I guess, maybe because I am not on official MIUI

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