I have been using Realtek audio console for a while and I really like the surround sound output when I select 'Concert Hall' in it. I was wondering if we have a similar equalizer for android, is Viper capable of delivering such beautiful surround sound effect? I own a K20 pro but wanted to know this irrespective of the device. Thanks in advance.
Realtek's 'Concert hall' effect is just a reverb effect if I remember correctly. Also, I'm pretty sure that you already know this, but true surround cannot be achieved with stereo headphones. Virtual surround effects increase 'immersiveness' at the cost of fidelity to the original track, often creating tonal/spectral imbalance and ADSR (attack, decay, sustain, release of an instrument or sound) aberrations. As well as ****ing up the sound stage (stereo imaging, panning) of the song but that's partly what's sought after.
I would personally recommend to get better headphones. In ear monitors are a good way to get a more immersive sound and are also the best option if you're on a tight budget. You can look for Chinese hifi IEMs (chifi), brands like KZ, Tin Hifi, BLON, NiceHCK, TRN or QT have awesome sounding models from 15€ to 100€. Regular headphone brands cannot compete q/p wise.
As for Viper4Android, yes it has two surround effects as well as plenty of other effects. Pretty sure you can achieve something better than with Realtek's DSP.
I love beautiful surround sound Realtek Audio. I could adjust it to 5.1-7.1 surround sound
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To my opinion, Music/Sound quality of HTC Kaiser is ... bad.
I tried Windows Media and Resco Radio for streaming.
Is there any tweak to adjust bass / treble / etc?
I know that this phone is not a music device ala iPod, but still ... if it could be way much better ...
TCPMP has an equalizer
but I believe the earphones are not that good...
I'll try to mod a mini-USB to 3.5 mm adapter.. and then I'll try my own earphones
I only hope I'll fine the time to do so
now you may say it's not that good, but how well does it compare to a htc tornado/sp5/t-mobile sda?
or just any previous phone you've had, how does it compare?
music quality through the rear speaker is what you expect.... almost no bass, plenty of treble. I miss the stereo speakers of the wizard, but it seems just as loud, if not louder than the wiz. kills the star trek in terms of external speaker volume. tcpmp sounds great through bt stereo (sony bt10cx) using default bitpool setting (although you do get the occasional bt hiccup).
zetajunkie said:
music quality through the rear speaker is what you expect.... almost no bass, plenty of treble. I miss the stereo speakers of the wizard, but it seems just as loud, if not louder than the wiz. kills the star trek in terms of external speaker volume. tcpmp sounds great through bt stereo (sony bt10cx) using default bitpool setting (although you do get the occasional bt hiccup).
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great! so the loudness is good. now what about the quality versus the wizzard or the star trek? im assuming the star trek quality is the same as the tornado's quality?
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great! so the loudness is good. now what about the quality versus the wizzard or the star trek? im assuming the star trek quality is the same as the tornado's quality?
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quality? the star trek ran faster than the wiz (same processor, less bloat), and sounded fine. could you be a bit more specific in what do you mean by quality? using usb to 3.5mm adapter sounds great through my car stereo (although not as loud as i'd like, have to adjust the preamp on tcpmp up sometimes), and it sounds great through bt on my $90 bt car stereo (got to love ebay sometimes...
i haven't used the stock headphones. i have already taken them apart in preparation for ebay bought sony earbuds i'm going to attach
zetajunkie said:
quality? the star trek ran faster than the wiz (same processor, less bloat), and sounded fine. could you be a bit more specific in what do you mean by quality? using usb to 3.5mm adapter sounds great through my car stereo (although not as loud as i'd like, have to adjust the preamp on tcpmp up sometimes), and it sounds great through bt on my $90 bt car stereo (got to love ebay sometimes...
i haven't used the stock headphones. i have already taken them apart in preparation for ebay bought sony earbuds i'm going to attach
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how the rear speaker sounds. how clear it is. loud is a good thing, that is...if it's clear. that's what i mean by quality.
at least in tcpmp, it is both clear and loud through the rear speaker. can distort if you up the preamp while using the rear speaker. i can be a few rooms away and here lyrics rather clearly.
if could have anything added, it would be an internal subwoofer....
i tend to avoid wmp because it likes to import random soundfiles i don't want in the playlist... and i'm too lazy to edit them out
zetajunkie said:
at least in tcpmp, it is both clear and loud through the rear speaker. can distort if you up the preamp while using the rear speaker. i can be a few rooms away and here lyrics rather clearly.
if could have anything added, it would be an internal subwoofer....
i tend to avoid wmp because it likes to import random soundfiles i don't want in the playlist... and i'm too lazy to edit them out
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cool, im glad the quality is also good, thats what i want, a phone that i can play music and it sounds really good, for other people to hear. also when im walking down the street with people playing music, it's actually able to be heard and understood.
I like wmp cuz
1. The Library. tcpmp doesnt have a library and it really botheres me. I like how easy you can access wmp's Now Playing List and navigate through the library. tcpmp is just a file browser, its kinda of a hassle. I only use tcpmp for videos.
2. It looks cooler, there's more buttons to press, and I make skins for them, they're avaible for download on MoDaCo.
hey guys, i noticed a REALLY annoying thing when i was going through the EQ presets in stock music player. If i choose Bass Boost, then my headphones start to behave strangely, like they cant handle the sound, on every thump there is a crackle in the headphones. you could say that its my headphones fault, but wait, heres the best part, ALL of my 3 headphones do the same + my computer speakers.
only happens on Bass Boost preset. guys try to play some track with a heavy bass beat, test if you have the same.
maybe there is an issue with the sound chip, idk. not a real argument to return the phone lol..
i wouldnt mind this, but bass boost is the best sounding preset (virtual surround is cool too, but its a bit too flat for me)
thx. lol, this came out to be quite a post
Guys Post your DSP settings for nexus 5 in this thread, so people using nexus 5 will be comfortable in changing the settings.
Posting Rule :
1. Name the head phone Using
2. Specify full details
Hope this thread is Useful
Thank You.
Headphones:
-Sony XB-500 (home)
-Klipsch Image S4 (outside)
DSP settings:
- I personally don't any DSP settings. I've noticed it distorts the sound like crazy. If I try to turn up the levels of lows or mids I notice that the overall volume decreases. The bass boost is useless and I used to use the surround effect but it also distorted sound. Any of you have different experiences?
As a side note, I always stream music in the highest quality from spotify
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Eh?
Not Equalizing the music is like eating raw meat...
I usually listen to heavy metal and dubstep (videogame remixes ) and I usually decrease a bit (-5db) at 500hz (mids) and raise (+5db) at 87hz (lows) and 8khz (highs).
Artificial bass boosters are a crap, complete Equalizers are better but i dont know any android player that has a complete equalizer (from 30hz to 16khz)
Attachment is an example of AIMP3 player for PC (Windows)
Played around a bit with the default Play Music EQ using both the speaker and a pair of Shure SE115 in-ears. I had the speaker volume at about 75% and the earphones closer to 60%. Both are lacking in the bass department so increasing the first 60hz slider will help with the low range.
Using the speaker EQ adjustments were mostly amounting to a "louder" sound. This makes sense as you're just increasing DB at various ranges and increasing all of them at the same level should increase overall loudness while not adjusting the sound too much.
With tiny speakers in my ears the adjustments were much more profound. Having tried the EQ Off I then switched back and forth between FX Booster and Normal. This was bringing out a lot more in the way of vocals and guitar solos in the Pearl Jam tracks I was listening to without introducing much noise so I settled on something in between those 2 presets as my User having already adjusted the 60hz for Bass on it's own to find the right placement and then bringing the last 14Khz slider down almost in line with that about +7DB.
Stay away from the Surround slider and check to see if it turned itself on randomly like it has for me twice now. On the speaker it didn't seem to make much difference but with in ears it was destroying the sound in an attempt to make it more "live" sounding. This could also potentially lead to distortion at max volumes.
Bass boost is also better left off or at the very minimum allowed setting otherwise bass on my Shures sounded muddied and took away from the rest of the song. Better to increase the DB for the lowest EQ slider instead.
DSP setting. Need to download CM. Will change with results tonight.
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Not Equalizing the music is like eating raw meat...
I usually listen to heavy metal and dubstep (videogame remixes ) and I usually decrease a bit (-5db) at 500hz (mids) and raise (+5db) at 87hz (lows) and 8khz (highs).
Artificial bass boosters are a crap, complete Equalizers are better but i dont know any android player that has a complete equalizer (from 30hz to 16khz)
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Neutron is your best bet for SQ on Android.
I've paid for PlayerPro, Power Amp, and Neutron (and tried out many others). Never found anything that compares to Neutron.
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I think this may be cool
I've been using Viper4Android over the last couple days and I like it so far!
What is the best DSP setting for Nexus 5 with Razer Hammerhead Pro?
i have been using poweramp
Hi,
strangely, i find the audio quality to be very poor (much worse than the GNEX i'm coming from anyway).
- sound stage is much narrower using the walkman app.
- using poweramp has proven to be impossible : there is an awful background noize (that i don't get either with the walkman app, either with google play music, like a FM radio interference.) The sound stage seems wider (I suppose this is thanks to the "direct volume control" feature of poweramp)
I did the test with 320kbps mp3, and a wide range of CD quality FLAC files.
I have tried the high res usb DAC output, but will not be using it on a daily basis as :
- it requires the platic waterproof protection to be off
- with my usb dac (dragonfly 1.2) the phone cannot control the dac's volume control (100% output volume would smash to pieces my earphones, and my ears)
- having a cable attached to the microusb port is the best way to break the port...
I'm not using any of the rubbishy musiFX, clearaudio stuff.
My earphones are high end IEMs (westone W60).
Anyone experienced this too ?
Well, I have encountered similar problem with you..
For the noise floor, it seems that this problem appears only if you use Poweramp, I have tried to use walkman and folder player with creative in-ear 3 and ATH-AD900X, the noise floor is not very obvious. Generally, I think z3c has a relatively good control of noise floor, and the arising of noise is due to Poweramp.
For the sound stage, yes it is narrower when you use Walkman, open the Clear Audio+ will enlarge sound stage a little bit but then the problem of sibilance arises
YEEES. Thank you so much for confirming I'm not going nuts and my phone is not malfunctioning !
I've sent a bug report to poweramp devs. I hope it gets fixed...
I personally can't bare clearaudio-style features which tend to give the feeling the music was recording microphone was set up inside a can...
ps: btw I learnt a new word today : sibilance.
ps2 : please upvote the bug thread on poweramp's forum (http://forum.powerampapp.com/index.php?/topic/6857-horrible-noise-floor-on-z3-compact/)
ps3: forgot to mention, this noise problem is related to Direct Volume Control. disabling this feature in poweramp removes the noise issue, but also reduces sound quality and sound stage.
icsha said:
Well, I have encountered similar problem with you..
For the noise floor, it seems that this problem appears only if you use Poweramp, I have tried to use walkman and folder player with creative in-ear 3 and ATH-AD900X, the noise floor is not very obvious. Generally, I think z3c has a relatively good control of noise floor, and the arising of noise is due to Poweramp.
For the sound stage, yes it is narrower when you use Walkman, open the Clear Audio+ will enlarge sound stage a little bit but then the problem of sibilance arises
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hi, i'm too dissapointed about the music quality.
it was much better when i installed custom rom on xperia tipo with z1 features, clearaudio+ gave the huge quality boost
Can someone comment on the music player audio quality and how it compares to viperaudio mod? If it is subpar, what music player are you using? I'm on verizon so viperaudio is not an option until/if we get root. Thanks in advance.
kheltek said:
Can someone comment on the music player audio quality and how it compares to viperaudio mod? If it is subpar, what music player are you using? I'm on verizon so viperaudio is not an option until/if we get root. Thanks in advance.
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My experience so far has been good. Through the 3.5mm headphone jack it plays really well through my car stereo, nice dynamic sound with pretty low distortion. More base heavy than I would go for but definitely well rounded. The phone speaker itself I find a little distorted due to the big base but it depends on your style of music and volume levels. The volume goes quite high also.
I'm comparing this to my last phone which was the nexus 5, personally I felt the nexus 5 volume was too low and lacked any base and made it sound tinny because of it. Even with viper audio I was never satisfied with it. The Moto x on the other hand got a few smiles from me with how it handled some of my favorite tracks on my commute.
The last phone I can remember really enjoying my music on was the galaxy s1 international version with voodoo music mod. That was quite a while though and honestly can't remember it enough to compare. Still, maybe that gives you some indication to what I would be looking for audio wise
Im using Apollo for my music player and the sound is great. If u have upgraded to 5.0 theres a built in EQ under settings/sound where u can modify how it sounds thru headphones and front speakers.
That's also in 4.4