Hi guys
I got an x1 few days ago. I'm very happy with the phone and I updated it to the new firmware 14.1.G.2.257.
In the last 3 days, after the update, I got 3 random reboots. I don't know if it was happening also with the old firmware cause I used it just for few hours.
Now I'd like to understand if it is a software problem so I need just to wait for a new firmware or it is an hardware issue so I need to return the phone.
Thanks to anyone would help me.
j0sh0 said:
Hi guys
I got an x1 few days ago. I'm very happy with the phone and I updated it to the new firmware 14.1.G.2.257.
In the last 3 days, after the update, I got 3 random reboots. I don't know if it was happening also with the old firmware cause I used it just for few hours.
Now I'd like to understand if it is a software problem so I need just to wait for a new firmware or it is an hardware issue so I need to return the phone.
Thanks to anyone would help me.
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in all honesty since having this phone i have not had one random reboot. When ever i upgrade firmware i always do a fullwipe to rule any issues out. But one thing i have seen happen is some apps can cause reboots, some apps cause wakelocks and some apps can cause battery drain. What i would do as a test is reflash firmware and dont install any other apps other than your standard google apps, see how that goes
sofir786 said:
in all honesty since having this phone i have not had one random reboot. When ever i upgrade firmware i always do a fullwipe to rule any issues out. But one thing i have seen happen is some apps can cause reboots, some apps cause wakelocks and some apps can cause battery drain. What i would do as a test is reflash firmware and dont install any other apps other than your standard google apps, see how that goes
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thanks my only concern is about hardware but I don't think this is the case... maybe there is a bad memory management in this firmware? I read about other people having issues like this.
j0sh0 said:
thanks my only concern is about hardware but I don't think this is the case... maybe there is a bad memory management in this firmware? I read about other people having issues like this.
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I really dont know, i keep hearing so may contrasting issues with this phone. I have not had 1 issue with the phone, but everywhere i see soo many issues, im certain theres a bad batch of z1's out there. I don't think its a hardware issue in your case, i cant really be sure about the memory management becuase this newer firmwares changelog included better memory management. i really think you should start from scratch as a test, and slowly add other apps, this way you can slowly eliminate whats causing this issue.
sofir786 said:
I really dont know, i keep hearing so may contrasting issues with this phone. I have not had 1 issue with the phone, but everywhere i see soo many issues, im certain theres a bad batch of z1's out there. I don't think its a hardware issue in your case, i cant really be sure about the memory management becuase this newer firmwares changelog included better memory management. i really think you should start from scratch as a test, and slowly add other apps, this way you can slowly eliminate whats causing this issue.
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It does make sense... I'll try
From 2 months I am trying to make roms for ubl work on my phone,but they just don't. I have a super slow phone when I install them, very unresponsive touchscreen... Please I have no more things I can try. In these two months I tried everything. Locked bootloader roms are better, but they still aren't that smooth and after a few hours I need to restart the phone, because I get unresponsive touchscreen again. I really want kitkat on my phone, because stock sucks too much with so low ram. I beg you guys for help. I am exhausted of trying and trying
rdlegy said:
From 2 months I am trying to make roms for ubl work on my phone,but they just don't. I have a super slow phone when I install them, very unresponsive touchscreen... Please I have no more things I can try. In these two months I tried everything. Locked bootloader roms are better, but they still aren't that smooth and after a few hours I need to restart the phone, because I get unresponsive touchscreen again. I really want kitkat on my phone, because stock sucks too much with so low ram. I beg you guys for help. I am exhausted of trying and trying
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Please calm down and don't spam the forum with copy paste posts everywhere as it won't get you anywhere.
Regarding your problem, if you think LBL roms are better then why don't you stick with them as they are equivalent to UBL roms in every aspect. I am on MrSteve555 M12 and can say it is smooth as silk, so what's all the fuss about?
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Cm11 is overall good, but all roms have a little lag when pulling down notification drawer. It is not stutter it is lag that you can see it... Hmm any fix?
rdlegy said:
Cm11 is overall good, but all roms have a little lag when pulling down notification drawer. It is not stutter it is lag that you can see it... Hmm any fix?
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Never seen this lag in the slightest.
I also have lag in the menu in the ui. Maybe it is from my phone? It is a little noticeable lag. Phone is working alright with 4.3, but with 4.4 it sucks
rdlegy said:
I also have lag in the menu in the ui. Maybe it is from my phone? It is a little noticeable lag. Phone is working alright with 4.3, but with 4.4 it sucks
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Ive run PA, Omni, PAC and CM11 and none of them have lag on quick settings or settings once the ROMs 'settled in' which is usually a few hours after install when everythings run and updated and synced fully. Is this lag happening for you on a clean phone with minimal gapps and no other apps installed?
Oblox said:
Ive run PA, Omni, PAC and CM11 and none of them have lag on quick settings or settings once the ROMs 'settled in' which is usually a few hours after install when everythings run and updated and synced fully. Is this lag happening for you on a clean phone with minimal gapps and no other apps installed?
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Yes. I don't have any luck with phones. I am very sensitive to lag and I'm stuck with this phone 1 year more- good hardware- ****ty software. I like the phone, but no the software.
rdlegy said:
Yes. I don't have any luck with phones. I am very sensitive to lag and I'm stuck with this phone 1 year more- good hardware- ****ty software. I like the phone, but no the software.
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Use a small gapps package. It does wonders, as long as you do the following steps in the correct order:
1. Format /system.
2. Wipe data, cache and dalvik cache.
3. Install ROM.
4. Install Gapps.
5. Reboot and leave the phone alone for at least half an hour.
6. Run through set-up (if required)
7. Leave phone alone for another hour.
8. Enjoy.
Google Search seems to be a big problem for performance, even on Nexus phones. The easiest is to get a package which does not include it (Velvet.apk it is called, and it is found in /system/priv-app).
I recommend Paranoid Android's 'pico' gapps. Google it to find the post on XDA by TKruzze.
gwhite5 said:
Use a small gapps package. It does wonders, as long as you do the following steps in the correct order:
1. Format /system.
2. Wipe data, cache and dalvik cache.
3. Install ROM.
4. Install Gapps.
5. Reboot and leave the phone alone for at least half an hour.
6. Run through set-up (if required)
7. Leave phone alone for another hour.
8. Enjoy.
Google Search seems to be a big problem for performance, even on Nexus phones. The easiest is to get a package which does not include it (Velvet.apk it is called, and it is found in /system/priv-app).
I recommend Paranoid Android's 'pico' gapps. Google it to find the post on XDA by TKruzze.
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I use the same gapps. I have left the phone 1 day and I still see lag in ui and when pulling down notification drawer :crying: My old phone didn't lag that much and had twice as weaker specs :crying:
rdlegy said:
I use the same gapps. I have left the phone 1 day and I still see lag in ui and when pulling down notification drawer :crying: My old phone didn't lag that much and had twice as weaker specs :crying:
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A month ago I had the same issue, but after using that formula it feels like a brand new phone now.
gwhite5 said:
A month ago I had the same issue, but after using that formula it feels like a brand new phone now.
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I really want a fast phone. The moto g is so fast and smooth, but my phone isn't even with any rom :crying: I can't do anything more. I tried everything and I gave up after 2 months and 50+ hours flashing roms and trying and trying different ways
rdlegy said:
I really want a fast phone. The moto g is so fast and smooth, but my phone isn't even with any rom :crying: I can't do anything more. I tried everything and I gave up after 2 months and 50+ hours flashing roms and trying and trying different ways
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Tell me exactly what you've done for your current set-up. Step-by-step.
gwhite5 said:
Tell me exactly what you've done for your current set-up. Step-by-step.
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I will do the formula you told me. I will flash stock .ftf then I won't boot the phone and I will flash williams kernel v7 just to get recovery. I will start the phone and go in to recovery. I will do the formula you told me with cm11 build by mr. Steve and I will hope the formula will work
rdlegy said:
I really want a fast phone. The moto g is so fast and smooth, but my phone isn't even with any rom :crying: I can't do anything more. I tried everything and I gave up after 2 months and 50+ hours flashing roms and trying and trying different ways
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I remember running LagFix off of the Google Play Store. Someone recommended it to me. What it does is it enables TRIM on your /system, /data, and /cache partition, which, in theory should work and improve performance two-fold. It applies to the SP, which uses NAND flash to store these partitions and therefore would suffer from the afore mentioned symptom.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix
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rdlegy said:
I will do the formula you told me. I will flash stock .ftf then I won't boot the phone and I will flash williams kernel v7 just to get recovery. I will start the phone and go in to recovery. I will do the formula you told me with cm11 build by mr. Steve and I will hope the formula will work
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Don't worry if the CyanogenMod set-up app is REALLY slow, crashes, or skips steps, it happens to everyone, because the cache rebuild hasn't begun yet.
rdlegy said:
I really want a fast phone. The moto g is so fast and smooth, but my phone isn't even with any rom :crying: I can't do anything more. I tried everything and I gave up after 2 months and 50+ hours flashing roms and trying and trying different ways
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Try MrSteve build, if it fails then I guess it's a hardware issue
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I sort of think that it is all with your mind. If you like, would you share a video showing the "lag" you've mentioned in those mentioned areas (notification sliding lag, settings lag) if you are currently running CM11. I would like to actually see it.
I would like to see a video recording of your phone by using another camera, not a screen recording or cast directly from your ROM.
With your video, people will finally could see how the "lag" is and decide if it is the normal lag, or supposedly a problem of your phone.
About touch screen sensitivity, I was unable to find a thread about the same problem (the one before you started a solution thread). I've searched like mad through the General forum. It contains a build.prop modification fix. If you could get me a link to it, gosh I would appreciate it so much and will show you to the right direction
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Try MrSteve build, if it fails then I guess it's a hardware issue
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TechnoSparks said:
I sort of think that it is all with your mind. If you like, would you share a video showing the "lag" you've mentioned in those mentioned areas (notification sliding lag, settings lag) if you are currently running CM11. I would like to actually see it.
I would like to see a video recording of your phone by using another camera, not a screen recording or cast directly from your ROM.
With your video, people will finally could see how the "lag" is and decide if it is the normal lag, or supposedly a problem of your phone.
About touch screen sensitivity, I was unable to find a thread about the same problem (the one before you started a solution thread). I've searched like mad through the General forum. It contains a build.prop modification fix. If you could get me a link to it, gosh I would appreciate it so much and will show you to the right direction
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I will try the formula. If it doesn't work I will try to film a video. Maybe it is a hardware issue, because when installing apps wtih 4.3 rom phone laggs a lot and on 4.4 does the same, but the lag is much lower when installing apps
rdlegy said:
I will try the formula. If it doesn't work I will try to film a video. Maybe it is a hardware issue, because when installing apps wtih 4.3 rom phone laggs a lot and on 4.4 does the same, but the lag is much lower when installing apps
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Well while installing apps it does lag but after that it just glides.
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I did all those steps. I get same performance. Maybe this is not lag I am not really sure
With themer apk its nice and smooth and also beautiful. I have from time to time touchscreen sensitivity problems. Any fix? Like 1 hour phone is goot after i lock it and unlock it touchscreen gets unsensitive and I need to restart
rdlegy said:
I did all those steps. I get same performance. Maybe this is not lag I am not really sure
With themer apk its nice and smooth and also beautiful. I have from time to time touchscreen sensitivity problems. Any fix? Like 1 hour phone is goot after i lock it and unlock it touchscreen gets unsensitive and I need to restart
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Have you tried LagFix yet? Run it and see what happens.
Plus don't use themes unless you wipe your cache afterwards: the theme modifies SystemUI.apk and therefore the cache file is incorrect.
Okay so once again, another ROM has got bad after 2 weeks. FXP 349 build has got to be pretty much unsuable, the unlock button doesnt respond, and the UI crashes for a laugh now. Getting very frustrated with this phone. Its getting harder to not smash the hell out of it with a hammer.
I must be doing something wrong, but every ROM Ive used just degrades in performance to the point where I cant take how laggy it is, Ive missed phonecalls because the UI cant wake up and show the incall UI fast enough. There has to be something deep in this phone which causes bad performance.
Im moving to VanirAOSP, as it says in the title of the ROM that its fast and smooth. Lets see if it can outlast any other ROM I've tried.
Sorry for ranting, I just dont get it, is there some secret setting that everyones using and not telling about? Ive tried stock kernel with CM, williams kernel with CM, stock kernel with CrystalPA, same again with williams kernel. Art or dalvik, it seems to make no difference, no matter what, the UI will bug out. Im not moaning at the devs because I know the work they do is hard and is much appreciated. I just wish I knew why this phone cant last 2 weeks without needing to be wiped!
Every ROM gets laggy after a while. Just use some app to clear cache and thumbnails and you should be fine.
donk165 said:
Okay so once again, another ROM has got bad after 2 weeks. FXP 349 build has got to be pretty much unsuable, the unlock button doesnt respond, and the UI crashes for a laugh now. Getting very frustrated with this phone. Its getting harder to not smash the hell out of it with a hammer.
I must be doing something wrong, but every ROM Ive used just degrades in performance to the point where I cant take how laggy it is, Ive missed phonecalls because the UI cant wake up and show the incall UI fast enough. There has to be something deep in this phone which causes bad performance.
Im moving to VanirAOSP, as it says in the title of the ROM that its fast and smooth. Lets see if it can outlast any other ROM I've tried.
Sorry for ranting, I just dont get it, is there some secret setting that everyones using and not telling about? Ive tried stock kernel with CM, williams kernel with CM, stock kernel with CrystalPA, same again with williams kernel. Art or dalvik, it seems to make no difference, no matter what, the UI will bug out. Im not moaning at the devs because I know the work they do is hard and is much appreciated. I just wish I knew why this phone cant last 2 weeks without needing to be wiped!
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I have a feeling you are installing too many apps running in background at once. My phone is super smooth, fast and responsive. I just either close apps after I am done with them (kill process) or don't install trash. Deleting some in-build rom apps which you never use could also help.
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I have a feeling you are installing too many apps running in background at once. My phone is super smooth, fast and responsive. I just either close apps after I am done with them (kill process) or don't install trash. Deleting some in-build rom apps which you never use could also help.
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Well VanirAOSP has sorted out my issues for now it seems. I dont really install many apps to be honest, I use the Micro PA Gapps package and I then remove Google Now Launcher, freeze the preinstalled launcher3, install Nova launcher. I have only 17 installed apps, Facebook is the only real hog app I think, I install messenger and then freeze it to get around the Facebook app not letting me use chat within the app. I do also play Marvel Contest of Champions, and I make sure to clear all running apps before playing games. I just feel like now on this ROM, the ram is clearing properly, swiping away apps is freeing up the RAM now.
I think the difference is that this ROM is based on AOSP, whereas before, I was using CM ROM's or Crystal PA which is pretty feature rich. Ill stick with this and see if it will last. This ROM just feels noticeably faster and the UI hasnt crashed once yet, even with a theme on!
donk165 said:
Well VanirAOSP has sorted out my issues for now it seems. I dont really install many apps to be honest, I use the Micro PA Gapps package and I then remove Google Now Launcher, freeze the preinstalled launcher3, install Nova launcher. I have only 17 installed apps, Facebook is the only real hog app I think, I install messenger and then freeze it to get around the Facebook app not letting me use chat within the app. I do also play Marvel Contest of Champions, and I make sure to clear all running apps before playing games. I just feel like now on this ROM, the ram is clearing properly, swiping away apps is freeing up the RAM now.
I think the difference is that this ROM is based on AOSP, whereas before, I was using CM ROM's or Crystal PA which is pretty feature rich. Ill stick with this and see if it will last. This ROM just feels noticeably faster and the UI hasnt crashed once yet, even with a theme on!
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I could give you a tip about Facebook app and Messenger. There is an app that lets you chat using Facebook app, meaning you can get rid of Messenger. Google it and you will find it, I can't recall the name now.
kwitu said:
I could give you a tip about Facebook app and Messenger. There is an app that lets you chat using Facebook app, meaning you can get rid of Messenger. Google it and you will find it, I can't recall the name now.
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Well the way im doing it, i dont actually use messenger, its installed but frozen/disabled so it isnt used, this allows me to chat inside the facebook app but the only downside ive found is that the chat notification dont seem to be working. This was a fix I picked up while browsing the net. Ill try out this app if I can find it, the name would make it much easier to find
donk165 said:
Well VanirAOSP has sorted out my issues for now it seems. I dont really install many apps to be honest, I use the Micro PA Gapps package and I then remove Google Now Launcher, freeze the preinstalled launcher3, install Nova launcher. I have only 17 installed apps, Facebook is the only real hog app I think, I install messenger and then freeze it to get around the Facebook app not letting me use chat within the app. I do also play Marvel Contest of Champions, and I make sure to clear all running apps before playing games. I just feel like now on this ROM, the ram is clearing properly, swiping away apps is freeing up the RAM now.
I think the difference is that this ROM is based on AOSP, whereas before, I was using CM ROM's or Crystal PA which is pretty feature rich. Ill stick with this and see if it will last. This ROM just feels noticeably faster and the UI hasnt crashed once yet, even with a theme on!
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And? Are you still satisfied with this rom after a while?
Well the 'ROM decay' creeped back in. I tried to counter it by cleaning things up but I had a few problems, nothing was working, I tried fix permissions from ROM toolbox and then my phone stopped booting, tried hard reset with the button on the back, couldn't get into recovery, pretty much died on me. I eventually got into recovery and caches wipes and that didn't work, I tried reinstalling the ROM and gapps without losing my data, it just got stuck on the boot logo, then recovery stopped working again, I eventually got in and had to wipe data, reinstall ROM and I finally got the phone booting again.
I'm not satisfied to be honest, its frustrating that I have to wipe the phone or reflash the roms so often, never has a phone been this bad for me. I'm selling it and moving to the OnePlus One in a few weeks, this phone has been nothing but headaches.
donk165 said:
Well the 'ROM decay' creeped back in. I tried to counter it by cleaning things up but I had a few problems, nothing was working, I tried fix permissions from ROM toolbox and then my phone stopped booting, tried hard reset with the button on the back, couldn't get into recovery, pretty much died on me. I eventually got into recovery and caches wipes and that didn't work, I tried reinstalling the ROM and gapps without losing my data, it just got stuck on the boot logo, then recovery stopped working again, I eventually got in and had to wipe data, reinstall ROM and I finally got the phone booting again.
I'm not satisfied to be honest, its frustrating that I have to wipe the phone or reflash the roms so often, never has a phone been this bad for me. I'm selling it and moving to the OnePlus One in a few weeks, this phone has been nothing but headaches.
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IF you are going to stay or at least try for the last time, I suggest formatting /boot but please be careful as I dont really know what will happen if you reboot the device while /boot is empty.
As in PC, an empty boot partition will leave an inaccessible Operating System. If in phone they are the same then I guess it can be much repairable.
IF again it fails and you are still staying I suggest extreme formatting by using the PC Companion and start fresh.
These are still suggestions and I hope you will have a headache free adventures with One plus. Good luck
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IF you are going to stay or at least try for the last time, I suggest formatting /boot but please be careful as I dont really know what will happen if you reboot the device while /boot is empty.
As in PC, an empty boot partition will leave an inaccessible Operating System. If in phone they are the same then I guess it can be much repairable.
IF again it fails and you are still staying I suggest extreme formatting by using the PC Companion and start fresh.
These are still suggestions and I hope you will have a headache free adventures with One plus. Good luck
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Thanks for the advice, For me, its the lack of RAM on this phone which is my problem. After a reboot, i have about 300mb free ram, and as soon as I have more than one simple app running (or just one game), ill get a very slow UI, and I have to be very careful and patient with it or it will crash. To me, that is terrible, why would anyone think this is acceptable for a smartphone to just about be able to run an app and hold the interface together. When the System UI crashes, or the lockscreen, It frustrates me so much! The most important part of a touchscreen phone is the UI, without it, your just staring at a blank screen.
There has to be something deep in this phone (the kernel?) where its memory management is broken in someway, ive never experienced a phone be so unstable with 1GB of RAM. When I bought it, I was really hopeful it would be good, it was higher specced than my last phone, it had 4g, it had jelly bean updates coming out, and at the time, a future update to kitkat, and we had support from FXP and CM. What weve actually got is a half baked attempt at 4.3 by Sony, a cancelled 4.4 update, and weve been moved to legacy support by FXP when CM11 didnt even get to the stable point. We may have lollipop builds coming out which could be the savior for this phone, but im sick of waiting for something which might not happen. I just want to be able to rely on my phone and not spend half my screen on time waiting for something to crash and then restart.
Back on my Optimus L9, it has only 768MB ram and a lower clocked dual core CPU but that could run CM10 fine, I never ever had UI crashes, ever! I got lag from time to time, but nothing crashed. Thie SP has 100mb+ more RAM available and a higher clocked CPU but it feels so much more clunky and unstable compared to the L9, it should be the other way round. On my nexus 7 2012 which is similarly specced to the SP (apart from the tegra quad CPU) I again, had no UI crashes, I had lags, but at least things didnt crash. My friend has the Xperia L, which is lower specced than the SP and is only on 4.1, but again, he never gets UI crashes and generally, his phone can run games smoother than I can even though he has lower specs!
This phone, for me, just doesn't fit my needs. It cant really multi task how I would expect it to, and having the phone pretty much lock up if its writing to internal storage is a joke, installing an app from the play store, and not being able to bring down the notification bar to look at the progress without causing problems, to me just feels like something is seriously wrong. The lightbar was the only thing ive really liked on the phone to this day. At first, I was loving this phone, it was great, the only problem I had on 4.1 was that I couldn't play Injustice because it would close the game after a while. I thought, ill wait for software updates, hopefully Sony will fix it. Then the 4.3 updates came but they were buggy, but I held onto hope because at the time, 4.4 was in the pipeline. Then we got a few more 4.3 updates which did fix some bugs but this RAM problem was still there. So I gave up on Official software and tried out custom stuff. I've tried modified Stock ROM's where you get more features but the same inherent problems are there. Ive tried CM, but there hasnt been a stable release of 4.4 and the snapshot builds have also stopped. Vanir ROM is designed to be stable, its one of their highest priorities with their builds. And I definitely feel the difference, but this lack of RAM becomes more obvious with time, this week, I've seen my UI crash 4 times.
Ive done what you've said about fully starting fresh with PC companion Ive flashed stock FTF's and Ive done the PC companion method, Ive done that at least 5 times in the past. When I first do it, it seems like everything is okay. But without fail, after a month of use (usually less) the phone will bog down and the RAM issues return. Maybe my specific device has faulty RAM or something or maybe the storage is messed up. All I know is, this phone has not been enjoyable for me to use, lower specced phones are out performing it, and its value has plummeted in trade in stores like CEX, my old L9 that I traded into my local CEX is being sold for more money than an SP is.
Im sorry to rant but ive just had enough of this phone.
Ive got to flash the phone fully back to stock for when I sell it, so ill go back to full stock, and see if it will last.
donk165 said:
Thanks for the advice, For me, its the lack of RAM on this phone which is my problem. After a reboot, i have about 300mb free ram, and as soon as I have more than one simple app running (or just one game), ill get a very slow UI, and I have to be very careful and patient with it or it will crash. To me, that is terrible, why would anyone think this is acceptable for a smartphone to just about be able to run an app and hold the interface together. When the System UI crashes, or the lockscreen, It frustrates me so much! The most important part of a touchscreen phone is the UI, without it, your just staring at a blank screen.
There has to be something deep in this phone (the kernel?) where its memory management is broken in someway, ive never experienced a phone be so unstable with 1GB of RAM. When I bought it, I was really hopeful it would be good, it was higher specced than my last phone, it had 4g, it had jelly bean updates coming out, and at the time, a future update to kitkat, and we had support from FXP and CM. What weve actually got is a half baked attempt at 4.3 by Sony, a cancelled 4.4 update, and weve been moved to legacy support by FXP when CM11 didnt even get to the stable point. We may have lollipop builds coming out which could be the savior for this phone, but im sick of waiting for something which might not happen. I just want to be able to rely on my phone and not spend half my screen on time waiting for something to crash and then restart.
Back on my Optimus L9, it has only 768MB ram and a lower clocked dual core CPU but that could run CM10 fine, I never ever had UI crashes, ever! I got lag from time to time, but nothing crashed. Thie SP has 100mb+ more RAM available and a higher clocked CPU but it feels so much more clunky and unstable compared to the L9, it should be the other way round. On my nexus 7 2012 which is similarly specced to the SP (apart from the tegra quad CPU) I again, had no UI crashes, I had lags, but at least things didnt crash. My friend has the Xperia L, which is lower specced than the SP and is only on 4.1, but again, he never gets UI crashes and generally, his phone can run games smoother than I can even though he has lower specs!
This phone, for me, just doesn't fit my needs. It cant really multi task how I would expect it to, and having the phone pretty much lock up if its writing to internal storage is a joke, installing an app from the play store, and not being able to bring down the notification bar to look at the progress without causing problems, to me just feels like something is seriously wrong. The lightbar was the only thing ive really liked on the phone to this day. At first, I was loving this phone, it was great, the only problem I had on 4.1 was that I couldn't play Injustice because it would close the game after a while. I thought, ill wait for software updates, hopefully Sony will fix it. Then the 4.3 updates came but they were buggy, but I held onto hope because at the time, 4.4 was in the pipeline. Then we got a few more 4.3 updates which did fix some bugs but this RAM problem was still there. So I gave up on Official software and tried out custom stuff. I've tried modified Stock ROM's where you get more features but the same inherent problems are there. Ive tried CM, but there hasnt been a stable release of 4.4 and the snapshot builds have also stopped. Vanir ROM is designed to be stable, its one of their highest priorities with their builds. And I definitely feel the difference, but this lack of RAM becomes more obvious with time, this week, I've seen my UI crash 4 times.
Ive done what you've said about fully starting fresh with PC companion Ive flashed stock FTF's and Ive done the PC companion method, Ive done that at least 5 times in the past. When I first do it, it seems like everything is okay. But without fail, after a month of use (usually less) the phone will bog down and the RAM issues return. Maybe my specific device has faulty RAM or something or maybe the storage is messed up. All I know is, this phone has not been enjoyable for me to use, lower specced phones are out performing it, and its value has plummeted in trade in stores like CEX, my old L9 that I traded into my local CEX is being sold for more money than an SP is.
Im sorry to rant but ive just had enough of this phone.
Ive got to flash the phone fully back to stock for when I sell it, so ill go back to full stock, and see if it will last.
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Its okay and I have read all of your post
It quite saddens me that some people isnt actually having fun with their SP. Shockingly enough, my SP does not face those mentioned problems (heck most of those that appears in the forum) but some exceptions goes to Stock Rom bugs and game problems.
This is my first android phone, I actually always wanted one but i am a teenager - i dont make money. But since my dad bought me this lovely sp, I have finally gained so much knowledge about android and it somehow further strengthens my Linux knowledge.
Maybe I was just lucky. Perhaps. But who knows if something is still wrong with my phone
I understand things will get older - people will buy new phones, developer will stop developing, people who got bored of customising etc. In fact I have seen so much decline of SP since the discontinued 4.4 update.
This is my first smartphone and I love it. It has an awesome community and awesome devs, but now it is getting old. Which quite sad to me.
I am saving for Ara phone (i hope it doesnt fail like smartwatches do). Since you are quite involved with many developments (i mean you customise your phone much like others), I hope your transition to a new device is a breeze. And above all, doesn't have the bugs that SP has.
LOL, I thought I was the only one with a "faulty SP".
My XSP has the exact same problems as yours. It is very annoying to change ROMS (or wipe data) every month.
The RAM is SO BAD on my SP, even though it only have 1GB of RAM, it should be a lot better. I didn't have such problems on my Motorola Defy + as I have with the XSP.
I thank so much that we have very nice developers, always trying to improve our user exp., but for some people like me it's difficult.
TechnoSparks said:
Its okay and I have read all of your post
It quite saddens me that some people isnt actually having fun with their SP. Shockingly enough, my SP does not face those mentioned problems (heck most of those that appears in the forum) but some exceptions goes to Stock Rom bugs and game problems.
This is my first android phone, I actually always wanted one but i am a teenager - i dont make money. But since my dad bought me this lovely sp, I have finally gained so much knowledge about android and it somehow further strengthens my Linux knowledge.
Maybe I was just lucky. Perhaps. But who knows if something is still wrong with my phone
I understand things will get older - people will buy new phones, developer will stop developing, people who got bored of customising etc. In fact I have seen so much decline of SP since the discontinued 4.4 update.
This is my first smartphone and I love it. It has an awesome community and awesome devs, but now it is getting old. Which quite sad to me.
I am saving for Ara phone (i hope it doesnt fail like smartwatches do). Since you are quite involved with many developments (i mean you customise your phone much like others), I hope your transition to a new device is a breeze. And above all, doesn't have the bugs that SP has.
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Well atleast you have started on a better android device than my first one. My first was a ZTE Skate and this was back in the gingerbread days. 512MB RAM, Single core CPU, barely any internal storage. Im very used to using android in a minimalist way, but the SP just takes it to a whole different level for me, i cant take it! Im glad that you arnt having all the same problems Im having. The fact that not everyone is getting the problems is a frustration because unless its a widespread problem, people wont really be pulling together to fix it because they dont understand/experience the problems. It has to be some kind of manufacturing defect, maybe certain batches of RAM/Storage chips used in the SP are defective/bad performers.
I hope the XSP continues to work well for you!
Bruno_Puzoni said:
LOL, I thought I was the only one with a "faulty SP".
My XSP has the exact same problems as yours. It is very annoying to change ROMS (or wipe data) every month.
The RAM is SO BAD on my SP, even though it only have 1GB of RAM, it should be a lot better. I didn't have such problems on my Motorola Defy + as I have with the XSP.
I thank so much that we have very nice developers, always trying to improve our user exp., but for some people like me it's difficult.
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Its a very weird problem, but its definitely RAM/Storage related.
I agree with you about the devs, I appreciate their hard work, it is great having all these ROM's to choose from when trying to solve the problems. It just seems it doesn't matter which ROM you are on, the problems will always be there. The problem must lie within the hardware or deep in the software side of things, beyond the ROM's like in the kernel or something. I dont know enough about those sides of a phone, but I can see just from using the phone, something isnt right.
It sucks that you are facing the same problems, but its nice to know im not alone in my experiences, its not just me.
If only we knew what the issue was, maybe there would be a chance to solve the issue.
I have the same problems with my phone exactly and am going to smash it with a hammer when I get a new phone. It is indeed so frustrating, I expect much more from sony!
i stopped to mess up with custom kernels, stock 207 is the best option.
Ondemand cpu governor + underclock to 1500mhz + greenify
Battery life + perfomance
My usage:
4 hours online gaming per day
+ some skype calls
i rooted then unrooted my s10 ,back to android 10 peacefully... since then it`s badly overheating........ always
does bricked knox cause the device to overheat?
if not , then why it happened ?
really need your help guys , cant play games , cant watch YouTube ...
is there any solution , fixing firmware or custom rom can save the day ?
thanks 2 u all
nothing yet ... disappointing
Factory reset
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Factory reset
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in vain
i did all could be done , problem emerged when i flashed custom rom , since then i had excessive hot , flashed stock firmware and just getting worse
is knox tripping the cause ? if not , then what ?
What you're saying shouldn't ideally happen. I've had Samsung devices for a while now, almost rooted every single one of them & found that the performance actually got better. Check for water damage, it's highly unlikely but it may be a culprit. If the problem persists, take it to Samsung (we all know their track record with heating batteries)
ubn77 said:
in vain
i did all could be done , problem emerged when i flashed custom rom , since then i had excessive hot , flashed stock firmware and just getting worse
is knox tripping the cause ? if not , then what ?
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Knox being tripped would not cause overheating. Don't suppose an app you have installed is causing the issue?.
If your convinced the phone is overheating even if on stock firmware, I would think the problem is hardware related.
I suggest visiting a Samsung service centre.
IDK know about Knox problems but I have been having issues with Android 10 ever since I updated. It runs great for about 10-12 hours and then something happens... It starts getting hot, runs like crap, super slow, the face recognition will stop working... It gets do bad I can barely unlock the phone. A reboot seems to fix the problem but only temporarily. Inevitably it does it again
Edit: and just to add to that, when it's running good I get much better screen off battery life than I did on pie. Seems to run smoother but that may just be me. The battery life however is hugely different. I keep track of deep sleep stats and battery users with bbs and Gsam
Saumya Mishra said:
What you're saying shouldn't ideally happen. I've had Samsung devices for a while now, almost rooted every single one of them & found that the performance actually got better. Check for water damage, it's highly unlikely but it may be a culprit. If the problem persists, take it to Samsung (we all know their track record with heating batteries)
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i can say the one mistake i did was flashing the wrong version of lineage 17 ( accidentally and wiped all at once) , that where everything started , i was flashing many wrong roms in my ex-phones when i was very newbie , but non of them had overheating issue
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Knox being tripped would not cause overheating. Don't suppose an app you have installed is causing the issue?.
If your convinced the phone is overheating even if on stock firmware, I would think the problem is hardware related.
I suggest visiting a Samsung service centre.
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1 / ironically when i odined back stock and been worse , reflashed again a deoxed rom things became a little bit better , i can use my phone but can not play games , no 4k videos to watch