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Pixel 2 Xl to Note 8

Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?

recepo1 said:
Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?
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Don't do it. Couldn't be happier, even with the lack of Roms on my SnapDrag Note 8.
Yes there are roms or more modding for the Pixel series, but at the end of the day, they are all the same Roms with the same tweaks renamed to something else. Don't get me wrong, I do miss my XL 2 at times but whenever I whip out this SPen......yeah, can't top the productivity of the Note 8.

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Don't do it. Couldn't be happier, even with the lack of Roms on my SnapDrag Note 8.
Yes there are roms or more modding for the Pixel series, but at the end of the day, they are all the same Roms with the same tweaks renamed to something else. Don't get me wrong, I do miss my XL 2 at times but whenever I whip out this SPen......yeah, can't top the productivity of the Note 8.
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The s-pen is a great addition but i barely use it honestly. The only reason i havent switched is because of the blue tint horror stories of the pixel 2 xl...in your opinion which camera was better overall?

recepo1 said:
The s-pen is a great addition but i barely use it honestly. The only reason i havent switched is because of the blue tint horror stories of the pixel 2 xl...in your opinion which camera was better overall?
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I prefer the Note 8 camera. Mostly because of two things. The draw(right iteration here?) distance for photos is amazing for the Colorado mountains where I live. And also the up close shots are very crisp and clear. I am able to take up close photos of serial numbers for verification emails at work, broken parts where I need to show fine detail and such.
As far as the pen goes, all it takes is finding a reason to use it or just messing around with drawing a bit. I have come to find that my wife really likes my cheesy Live Messages that I draw her, and my daughter stays entertained while we are running errands(rugged phone case). My wife always grabs my phone when we do groceries because of the ease of it, and she's able to make recipes on the fly in Samsung Notes and include clip arts of the photos she just took. Yeah, she uses it more than I do sometimes but I'm not about to drop another $1k on a phone for her.

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I prefer the Note 8 camera. Mostly because of two things. The draw(right iteration here?) distance for photos is amazing for the Colorado mountains where I live. And also the up close shots are very crisp and clear. I am able to take up close photos of serial numbers for verification emails at work, broken parts where I need to show fine detail and such.
As far as the pen goes, all it takes is finding a reason to use it or just messing around with drawing a bit. I have come to find that my wife really likes my cheesy Live Messages that I draw her, and my daughter stays entertained while we are running errands(rugged phone case). My wife always grabs my phone when we do groceries because of the ease of it, and she's able to make recipes on the fly in Samsung Notes and include clip arts of the photos she just took. Yeah, she uses it more than I do sometimes but I'm not about to drop another $1k on a phone for her.
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Appreciate your feedback really helps alot with my decision. For my business i need the best camera and in most reviews i heard the pixel was the best but the Note 8 is a great camera as well. And youre right the productivity of the Note is unmatched. My best bet is to keep the Note 8 and flash a pixel like rom to clean up alot of bloat and speed up the Note a bit. The note has the best looking screen as well and i dont want to lose that beautiful screen.

recepo1 said:
Appreciate your feedback really helps alot with my decision. For my business i need the best camera and in most reviews i heard the pixel was the best but the Note 8 is a great camera as well. And youre right the productivity of the Note is unmatched. My best bet is to keep the Note 8 and flash a pixel like rom to clean up alot of bloat and speed up the Note a bit. The note has the best looking screen as well and i dont want to lose that beautiful screen.
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I used debloat my devices such as this one. But I have come to find that I use the Samsung apps more than the stock Google ones with the exception of Drive or Sheets. Everything else I use works better because of the Pen.

So I currently have an S8 and I'm looking at either the Note 8 or Pixel 2 XL, both appear to be great devices and I'm really torn on which to choose at the moment! The Pixel 2 XL will cost me £10 a month more than the Note with my current provider in the UK, so it's just me deciding which to go for....
I love the S8 and have owned it for 3 months, been running Oreo beta too, which is pretty decent, the only thing is I get lag at times anything from small to large and I'm not sure if it's the BixbyRemap causing it.
Between the two I prefer the Pixel 2XL for:
Slightly smaller, Note 8 looks huge and 1 handed use will be difficult.
Software, although Note 8 has 6Gb RAM I still hear it lags??
Note 8:
Better screen, I love my S8's screen so this is better.
SD card support, 128gb is a lot on the P2XL it's just not expandable
Draw:
Camera, both have great camera's, Note has 2x optical with live focus where the P2XL has portrait mode...
Dam this decision is so hard, any opinions on the above?
Thanks!

Jammol said:
I used debloat my devices such as this one. But I have come to find that I use the Samsung apps more than the stock Google ones with the exception of Drive or Sheets. Everything else I use works better because of the Pen.
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Yea i think i will stick w the Note 8 for now unless the pixel XL 2 drops vastly in price.

Screen
Camera
Battery
That's my decision order. Makes keeping the Note very easy

maverick1103 said:
So I currently have an S8 and I'm looking at either the Note 8 or Pixel 2 XL, both appear to be great devices and I'm really torn on which to choose at the moment! The Pixel 2 XL will cost me £10 a month more than the Note with my current provider in the UK, so it's just me deciding which to go for....
I love the S8 and have owned it for 3 months, been running Oreo beta too, which is pretty decent, the only thing is I get lag at times anything from small to large and I'm not sure if it's the BixbyRemap causing it.
Between the two I prefer the Pixel 2XL for:
Slightly smaller, Note 8 looks huge and 1 handed use will be difficult.
Software, although Note 8 has 6Gb RAM I still hear it lags??
Note 8:
Better screen, I love my S8's screen so this is better.
SD card support, 128gb is a lot on the P2XL it's just not expandable
Draw:
Camera, both have great camera's, Note has 2x optical with live focus where the P2XL has portrait mode...
Dam this decision is so hard, any opinions on the above?
Thanks!
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The note 8 is the exact same footprint as the XL 1 with just a half inch more in height. So size difference in negligible IMO.
As for Lag, I have experienced absolutely none. I have been very impressed with touchwiz on the note 8. I only got this phone because of the BOGO deal, i was gonna hold on to my XL for another year but my wife wanted a new phone so I had to capitalize. I wasn't expecting to enjoy a Samsung phone this much. It's a beast that can handle anything thrown at it. It ranks #4 in the highest futuremark test that I ran.
I also am blown away by the speed and quality of the camera. And this screen is absolutely Amazing!
Really the only advantage I think Google has this year is the monthly updates. To me those updates are nice, but not a selling point.

Gizmoe said:
The note 8 is the exact same footprint as the XL 1 with just a half inch more in height. So size difference in negligible IMO.
As for Lag, I have experienced absolutely none. I have been very impressed with touchwiz on the note 8. I only got this phone because of the BOGO deal, i was gonna hold on to my XL for another year but my wife wanted a new phone so I had to capitalize. I wasn't expecting to enjoy a Samsung phone this much. It's a beast that can handle anything thrown at it. It ranks #4 in the highest futuremark test that I ran.
I also am blown away by the speed and quality of the camera. And this screen is absolutely Amazing!
Really the only advantage I think Google has this year is the monthly updates. To me those updates are nice, but not a selling point.
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Thanks for your opinions, exactly what I was after!
I think you are spot on the Pixel has the advantage of the updates, however, Samsung Experience is much better than TouchWiz was as Samsung has brought it a lot of features into their software that Google didn't have, it's mainly Google copying Samsung these days I find!
I really like the 2x zoom the Note has, however, the portrait mode seems better on the Pixel, from what I've seen on real-life videos.
Choices, choices!!

I have both and here is my take.
The P2XL is lighter and thinner but just a bit wider and it makes it uncomfortable for me to hold (small hands.) I find the note easier to use one handed. The battery life on the pixel is not that great, it drains quickly and gets warm when using the camera. The camera stinks! I really have no idea why everyone is claiming the camera to be amazing. I get better pics from my P1XL and the note 8. Every shot I take is grainy and lacks sharpness. Yes, stock android is better than the sammy skin but I have experienced no lag on my N8 and I like the fact that it auto adds extensions to call in meetings as I am on the road a ton. I am selling my P2XL and keeping the N8. I find it to be a far superior product.

I've been down this road quite a few times myself and in the end the Note 8 won. The Pixel2 XL has way too many hardware and software issues that I want to gamble with. I returned a total of five 2 XL's for various reasons and one Pixel 2 because the screen had a horrible reddish brown tint to it. The cameras are equal in the 200 + photos I took with the 2 XL and Note 8., they both have their pros and cons. The Note has been running great for me and my son. Battery life is great, the display is the best and the software runs nice and smooth. What else can I really ask for? My biggest complaint is the added length to the Note because it sticks out of my top coat pocket where I like to keep my phone. Other than that I'm thrilled with it. When I start doubting my decision I go here and my doubt is removed.

pieman13 said:
I have both and here is my take.
The P2XL is lighter and thinner but just a bit wider and it makes it uncomfortable for me to hold (small hands.) I find the note easier to use one handed. The battery life on the pixel is not that great, it drains quickly and gets warm when using the camera. The camera stinks! I really have no idea why everyone is claiming the camera to be amazing. I get better pics from my P1XL and the note 8. Every shot I take is grainy and lacks sharpness. Yes, stock android is better than the sammy skin but I have experienced no lag on my N8 and I like the fact that it auto adds extensions to call in meetings as I am on the road a ton. I am selling my P2XL and keeping the N8. I find it to be a far superior product.
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Thanks for your thoughts!
I've read that about the Pixel 2 being wider making it uncomfortable when holding, which tbh my S8 is great because it's not very wide, so I was thinking that would be the same with the N8 so it's great to hear I was on right track. So even though it's got a bigger battery than the N8 would you say they are on par? My S8 can be great sometimes, however, it also can be crap! :-/
There's so many mixed reviews/opinions about the camera I don't know what to believe, so it's good to hear it's not all roses with the Pixel!
I'm still swaying towards the Note 8!

I feel the battery on the note 8 is a little better. Like I said, I see the battery draining faster on the 2XL. And I would certainly be using the S8 if it had 6gb ram and the dual cameras. The N8 is not easy to use one handed but it's easier than the pixel. I actually prefer the more natural look to the XL2's screen but I know I'm in the minority on that one. The screen does have a nasty blue tint when angled even slightly though. And you can always load up the 2XL camera and use it on the note. I was so excited for the 2XL as I have always been a stock android fan boy but google got it wrong this time, the phone is sub par.

Misterxtc said:
I've been down this road quite a few times myself and in the end the Note 8 won. The Pixel2 XL has way too many hardware and software issues that I want to gamble with. I returned a total of five 2 XL's for various reasons and one Pixel 2 because the screen had a horrible reddish brown tint to it. The cameras are equal in the 200 + photos I took with the 2 XL and Note 8., they both have their pros and cons. The Note has been running great for me and my son. Battery life is great, the display is the best and the software runs nice and smooth. What else can I really ask for? My biggest complaint is the added length to the Note because it sticks out of my top coat pocket where I like to keep my phone. Other than that I'm thrilled with it. When I start doubting my decision I go here and my doubt is removed.
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Yes, that's what I'm seeing across the net, too many issues out there for a premium device imo! It's a shame really as the Pixel 2 XL has so much potential! Thanks for the link, that's a great link to share!!
pieman13 said:
I feel the battery on the note 8 is a little better. Like I said, I see the battery draining faster on the 2XL. And I would certainly be using the S8 if it had 6gb ram and the dual cameras. The N8 is not easy to use one handed but it's easier than the pixel. I actually prefer the more natural look to the XL2's screen but I know I'm in the minority on that one. The screen does have a nasty blue tint when angled even slightly though. And you can always load up the 2XL camera and use it on the note. I was so excited for the 2XL as I have always been a stock android fan boy but google got it wrong this time, the phone is sub par.
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Yes I'm with you, an s8 with 6gb RAM and dual cameras would be an ideal phone imo!

recepo1 said:
Looked at many reviews on the Google Pixel 2XL and Note 8. I currently have a exynos variant Note 8 and thinking about selling to get the Pixel. Has anybody came from the Pixel 2 Xl to the Note 8 and if so are you happy with your decision?
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came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 XL i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, for the pixel 2 XL, unfortunately in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8 for a great price, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 XL... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no dual sim,no SD, no ,no, no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...

Ariyax said:
came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 xl i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, fot the pixel 2 XL, unfortunatly in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 Xl... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no, no ,no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is a very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...
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Wow those are a lot of lacking factors too i would have to consider losing if i went to the pixel. Thanks for your input it just makes me want to stay with the Note

Ariyax said:
came for the nexus series, to change for the pixel, once they announced the google pixel 2 XL i was so excited, then i sold my Pixel Xl, for the pixel 2 XL, unfortunately in my country was only available the 15th of November, i had to buy a new device to take time....and i purchased the NOTE 8 for a great price, had it for a couple of week, when finally i've got my hands on the Pixel 2 XL... and that i realized...no waterproof, no 3.5 jack, no wireless charge, no DEX, no connection out from the box with my TV, no face unlock, no dual sim,no SD, no ,no, no for what 939.00€!!!!!!!
the feeling was like having an old phone in my hands compared with note 8, finally a send it back after 24h.
For me it is very disappointing because i loved the nexus series and the pixel xl, but i have to admit that, my last Samsung phone was galaxy S2, NOTE 8 seems to be alien technology compared with this year overpriced pixel.
Looking forward for the Pixel 3 though...
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recepo1 said:
Wow those are a lot of lacking factors too i would have to consider losing if i went to the pixel. Thanks for your input it just makes me want to stay with the Note
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Yes those are a fair few factors! I've decided to upgrade to the Note 8, just literally done the upgrade! Thanks all for your advice!

maverick1103 said:
Yes those are a fair few factors! I've decided to upgrade to the Note 8, just literally done the upgrade! Thanks all for your advice!
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Yeah a lot of people don't realize what they lose when they go to the Google Experience. I had to make that very tough decision when we had to switch to Project Fi to save money in a financial crap time. I almost cried when I sold my Note 5!!! Then came Xfinity!??

Which pixel to buy?

I currently have an HTC U11 for more than 2 years and i am thinking of changing phone. I live in Italy and I don't have the opportunity to buy it in physical stores as Google is not marketed, however in this period there is a discount of 60 € in the official online store. Which to choose between 4xl and 3a xl? I have never had a google phone and it has always been my wish for many years.

4xl most definitely.

I'd rather go with 3axl. Easy on the budget with all the Google goodies and a great battery life to enjoy the experience!

Whatever one you want more

Main factor is your budget. If you can't pay for a Pixel 4 XL then go for cheaper options like the 3 XL or 3a XL (or wait for the 4a). If you can afford a 4 XL, then go for it. It'll most likely age the best if you plan on having it for 3 years.
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

The 4xl is clearly a better phone than the 3xl. However the 3xl is no slouch and it is a very good phone for the price. So pick the phone that you are comfortable with.
If you want the features the 4xl offers and can afford it, then get that phone. If you don't want to spend that kind of money, or you really don't need the features of the 4xl, then get the 3xl. I don't think you will be disappointed in either phone as long as you make an informed decision.

Thank you all for the answers.
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The 4xl is clearly a better phone than the 3xl. However the 3xl is no slouch and it is a very good phone for the price. So pick the phone that you are comfortable with.
If you want the features the 4xl offers and can afford it, then get that phone. If you don't want to spend that kind of money, or you really don't need the features of the 4xl, then get the 3xl. I don't think you will be disappointed in either phone as long as you make an informed decision.
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My choice is based on reviews seen on YouTube and opinions of users on forums like this, since I don't have the opportunity to try the phone firsthand.
The only fact that is holding me back is battery: I would have expected at least a 4000mAh in 2019, having to keep the phone for at least two years.
This, and the fact that you pay a phone around € 900: simply for a problem of principle, is it worth it to pay so much?
Was also considering OnePlus 7t/7 pro but that camera is a thumb down..

[Fenix] said:
Thank you all for the answers.
My choice is based on reviews seen on YouTube and opinions of users on forums like this, since I don't have the opportunity to try the phone firsthand.
The only fact that is holding me back is battery: I would have expected at least a 4000mAh in 2019, having to keep the phone for at least two years.
This, and the fact that you pay a phone around € 900: simply for a problem of principle, is it worth it to pay so much?
Was also considering OnePlus 7t/7 pro but that camera is a thumb down..
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Well technically the 4 XL has a better battery than the 3 XL, although in real life use I find they are about the same. Loving the 4 XL though.
But then... I loved the 3 XL at the time, so that doesn't mean much...

Pixel 4 XL. so far Great Phone.

I have better battery life with my 3a XL than the 4XL.by about 2 hours SOT. That thing was a beast for everyday use. Only fallback was no water protection.
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[Fenix] said:
Thank you all for the answers.
My choice is based on reviews seen on YouTube and opinions of users on forums like this, since I don't have the opportunity to try the phone firsthand.
The only fact that is holding me back is battery: I would have expected at least a 4000mAh in 2019, having to keep the phone for at least two years.
This, and the fact that you pay a phone around € 900: simply for a problem of principle, is it worth it to pay so much?
Was also considering OnePlus 7t/7 pro but that camera is a thumb down..
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I don't think the 4xl is worth 900€ not even close. I'd go for the OP7t which you can find on sale for about 550€ Save over 300€

It's worth for me, even for the camera alone. Besides, 7T is plagued with screen uniformity issues.

So I've made it ?
Wow this thing looks gorgeous!
Thanks all for comments

Looking for advice.

Been a Google Pixel 2 XL user for the last two years. Love my phone. Looking to upgrade, but I am running into an issue. I don't know if I should go for a 4 XL or try to hold out until the 5 XL drops. Have a slight issue with my charging port. Still works fine, just don't want to try to hold out too long and also don't want to settle. Whatever I decide, I will have to be able to stick with for the next two years and it has to last.
Any thoughts or advice? I have seen a wide range of reviews vilifying and praising the 4 XL's.

Daedaleus said:
Been a Google Pixel 2 XL user for the last two years. Love my phone. Looking to upgrade, but I am running into an issue. I don't know if I should go for a 4 XL or try to hold out until the 5 XL drops. Have a slight issue with my charging port. Still works fine, just don't want to try to hold out too long and also don't want to settle. Whatever I decide, I will have to be able to stick with for the next two years and it has to last.
Any thoughts or advice? I have seen a wide range of reviews vilifying and praising the 4 XL's.
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I think a better way to do it is you lay down your requirements and what you want from a phone and your general usage of the phone.

Generally Speaking...
Basically, I am looking for something as good as my Pixel 2 XL, but with more life and longevity in it. Ideally, I would like something with more ram, better processor and greater battery life. I have special needs children and my phone is a lifeline. It keeps me in touch with doctors, family, information as well as organized and entertained. I play some games on it but the most taxing is maybe Transformers; Earth Wars. Don't do a lot of streaming. I do have a habit of keeping documents, writing notes or reference material handy. Storage is a consideration. I currently have a 128 gb but don't see anything available from my carrier (Verizon) except for the 64 gb.
What I am interested in is any known issues to look out for or be aware of. I have had very little trouble with my 2 XL, but my Wife suffered with a lot of crashes, freezes, missed calls etc. Even her battery life went to crap. I use my fingerprint scanner a lot. As I understand it, the 4 XL doesn't have it. Had anyone noticed an issue adapting? Is the facial recognition very effective or is it glitchy?
In short, is the 4 XL a solid investment or is it more prudent to try and wait for the 5 XL? Any personal feedback or experience is greatly appreciated.

I had a Pixel 2 XL and it was just fine, but I moved to a Galaxy Note 10+. Don't get me wrong I have always loved Note line but ever since Samsung locked US variant bootloaders I just couldn't get jiggy with it anymore.
So now I have a Pixel 4 XL, like you I was scared of not having the rear fingerprint sensor but let me tell you Face Unlock is great and it's just as good as Apple's Face ID. I know me personally, I like having total control over my device so that's why I chose to go with Pixel again. Yes there are people who will rant and rave about the 4 but I haven't experienced any issues and am loving this device. Especially with it being heavily discounted it was a steal to me.

We're pretty much at the halfway point from when the 4 was released and when the 5 will be. You've waiter this long so why not wait another 6 months?
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Well, a minute amount of moisture found its way into my charging port one morning, apparently. By night time I plugged it in and things happened. Long story short, I spent a few days in terror until I found another cord that would work to charge. It's worked great all things considered but now is finicky about how you plug it in. So, I was weighting replacement as soon as I pay it off or if it will last long enough for the 5 XL. Right now I can't use the port for data transfer or accessories, just charging.

Daedaleus said:
Well, a minute amount of moisture found its way into my charging port one morning, apparently. By night time I plugged it in and things happened. Long story short, I spent a few days in terror until I found another cord that would work to charge. It's worked great all things considered but now is finicky about how you plug it in. So, I was weighting replacement as soon as I pay it off or if it will last long enough for the 5 XL. Right now I can't use the port for data transfer or accessories, just charging.
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Ah okay. Sorry I didn't realize the port was that bad. I came from a Pixel 2 XL and I felt it was worth the upgrade. At it's current price it's definitely worth the price. And actually I take back that we're only 6 months away because I wouldn't get another Pixel on day one. They keep screwing over early adopters and discounting during Black Friday.
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Daedaleus said:
Basically, I am looking for something as good as my Pixel 2 XL, but with more life and longevity in it. Ideally, I would like something with more ram, better processor and greater battery life. I have special needs children and my phone is a lifeline. It keeps me in touch with doctors, family, information as well as organized and entertained. I play some games on it but the most taxing is maybe Transformers; Earth Wars. Don't do a lot of streaming. I do have a habit of keeping documents, writing notes or reference material handy. Storage is a consideration. I currently have a 128 gb but don't see anything available from my carrier (Verizon) except for the 64 gb.
What I am interested in is any known issues to look out for or be aware of. I have had very little trouble with my 2 XL, but my Wife suffered with a lot of crashes, freezes, missed calls etc. Even her battery life went to crap. I use my fingerprint scanner a lot. As I understand it, the 4 XL doesn't have it. Had anyone noticed an issue adapting? Is the facial recognition very effective or is it glitchy?
In short, is the 4 XL a solid investment or is it more prudent to try and wait for the 5 XL? Any personal feedback or experience is greatly appreciated.
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I'd say wait for the 5 or even the 4a and save some buck. 4xl battery is very similar to 2x or even worse sometimes. The face unlock on the 4xl works great and it will not be an issue for you.
I think you should consider 4a and get the pixel buds together for less or similar price you will get a 4xl but that's what my thoughts are. Your usage is not too heavy so you can do away with a mid-range pixel easily.

Also, don't forget channels such as Craig's List or OfferUp. You can find great deals there. I bought a brand-new 128-GB Pixel 4 XL on OfferUp for $400. Awesome deal. The best deals are from people who got something as a present or won it, because they have no financial stake in it; to them, whatever money they get is 'profit'. In fact, I buy all my electronics on Craig's List or OfferUp, oftentimes brand-new in box and otherwise like-new.
You can always wait for the next big thing, but you'll never buy anything if you do that, because there's always a new, shinier device around the corner (or at least on the horizon). If the Pixel 5 XL was a matter of weeks, then yes, I'd say you should wait for it, but if you can find a great deal on a Pixel 4 XL now, jump on it. You won't regret it. I love my Pixel 4 XL.
I actually sold my Galaxy S10+ to get the Pixel 4 XL (or rather, return to Pixel, since I had a Pixel 3 XL and Pixel 2 XL before). I just prefer the overall Pixel experience. Yes, looking at pure specs, the Pixel 4 XL is a bit behind other flagship phones. That said, the Pixel 4 XL takes much better photos than the Galaxy S10+, which overprocesses and oversaturates photos and doesn't focus nearly as fast as Pixel. Photos taken on my Pixel *always* turn out great, whereas it's hit or miss with the Galaxy S10+. I thought I'd really miss the ultrawide camera on the Galaxy S10+, but I don't, really. The consistently great shots on my Pixel 4 XL more than make up for that.
Specs aren't everything---it's the total experience that matters, and in my view Pixel kills it here.
Face unlock on my Pixel 4 XL works flawlessly. It's so fast you sometimes forget it's actually working. It's not until you're out and about with a face mask on that you realize it's actually doing its job because it doesn't recognize you then (understandably, of course). The finger print scanner on the Galaxy S10+ sucks, plain and simple.
I haven't had any issues in terms of battery life. Yes, the Pixel 4 XL perhaps doesn't last as long in a battery-drain-to-zero contest, but that's not terribly realistic in everyday use. I can easily make it through the day, and I'm always close enough to a charger (in the car, for example) to top up the phone if I have to. The supposed horrible battery life has never been an issue for me.
In short, get the Pixel 4 XL if you can find a good deal on it. You won't regret it!
--Ron

The only thing about the 4 xl that is "worse" than the 2 xl is the battery. That being said, mine still gets me through the day even if I play Pokemon go or something for an hour and stream YouTube music in the car and general browsing and YouTube usage. It's not bad, just not as good as the 2 xl was. And be careful with the a series pixels. I tried the 3a and you notice the mid tier processor. I couldn't take it. The 3a is a good phone but for me, I didn't like the slow down of the processor.
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Daedaleus said:
Been a Google Pixel 2 XL user for the last two years. Love my phone. Looking to upgrade, but I am running into an issue. I don't know if I should go for a 4 XL or try to hold out until the 5 XL drops. Have a slight issue with my charging port. Still works fine, just don't want to try to hold out too long and also don't want to settle. Whatever I decide, I will have to be able to stick with for the next two years and it has to last.
Any thoughts or advice? I have seen a wide range of reviews vilifying and praising the 4 XL's.
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I have just made the switch from the 2 XL for the exact same reason and while I can't comment on battery life I am happy with the phone so far

Question Are you getting a Pixel 5a?

It looks really good, but without a 90hz or higher screen, it's difficult for me to justify.

I am curious if we can trick Google to recognize a 5a as a 4a 5G, for some free "High quality backup" in Google Photos - as there aren't many differences between the two devices. Same silicon, same RAM and storage configuration, almost the same screen size.

I pre-ordered one. I got talked into it while asking about security/software updates on a budget phone forum here. It is more than I expected to spend, but people made me realize I don't know how to quantify the extra costs/risks of other manufacturers adding their own software on top of the android part that Google is patching.
I would be happy to pay less and reduce the specs further in some ways, but I am thinking about it as cost per year of software support, so I won't consider the older models that already have 1 or more years of their software life spent on the shelf... I'd probably be satisfied if it had 4GB RAM, 64GB flash, and LCD instead of OLED but with the same software. I am interested to see how the 5G works out w/ T-Mobile. (Edit: for reference, my current phone is a Moto G7 Play with 2GB RAM, 32GB flash, and a 720 pix wide screen. It is usable for me, but definitely shows its limits...)
Our last Google phone was a Nexus 5X. We went on a budget quest after that, thinking pixels were too expensive. We thought Moto was a decent value for a while, but I've been growing unhappy with their worsening software support. I.e. only 2 years and not even monthly on the budget models.

Yep, preordered mine.

No, I ordered the Galaxy S20 Plus from Google Fi for $50 less than the Pixel 5a. I am not a Samsung fan, but that's too much phone to pass up for $399.

Undecided. Would like the larger screen. If TWRP was an easy install (compared to 4a), would jump on it. Will probably wait another year (or two).

Personally, I will not. But I hope that people will be okay with the stuff that we see. It’s a lot of aspects that have been made with the stuff that we can talk about. It’s really cool that there have been solid phones over the years and I love that the Pixel continues to be a strong Android phone.

I was going to, but the camera overheating issue worries me. Want to see if that's prevalent in a wider adoption first.

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I was going to, but the camera overheating issue worries me. Want to see if that's prevalent in a wider adoption first.
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If I'm not mistaken the 4a5g as well as the 5 all have the same camera setup and all experience the same overheating issue. Therefore, if this is true and Google has not "yet" done anything to resolve the issue then either they are unwilling to fix the problem, or they are unable to do so. I'm still getting one because I rarely even use the camera on any phone.

I did pre order the Pixel 5a for myself, will get rid of my iPhone 12 Pro Max then. Last Pixel I used and still have as a secondary home device is the Pixel 4 XL, which I loved, except for the absolute crap battery life, that thing blew for battery stamina, other than that running Android 12 beta 4 on it and it's smooth as hot butter.
If the Pixel 5a has similar smooth performance as my 4 XL, I'm fine with that, but I really need great battery life for my job out in the field a lot and on the go, don't have time to charge often. And I thought last years Pixel 5 was a bit too small, and I find my 12 Pro Max a bit too large, so an in-between phone size is exactly what I want, and good battery life. 6" display too small, and 6.7"+ size too large.
Like I said if the 5a has similar smooth performance as my 4XL, then I'm all good.
And man I can't wait to be rid of iOS, just such a frustrating OS and screwy way it works and Apple Maps blows.

Pre-ordered one from Google Fi for the wife. $15/month for 2 years including insurance on their subscription plan. She doesn't want to give up her Nexus 6P so I may change over to it from my Pixel 3XL.

I want to but currently I'm on a 4a and since it's not available in Canada, I'd have to jump through hoops to get one. I have a feeling Google will be asking too much for the 6/pro. I paid over $1000cnd for the Pixel 1 & 2, then dropped back to the 3a and now the 4a. I'm more than happy with the A-series phones.

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I want to but currently I'm on a 4a and since it's not available in Canada, I'd have to jump through hoops to get one. I have a feeling Google will be asking too much for the 6/pro. I paid over $1000cnd for the Pixel 1 & 2, then dropped back to the 3a and now the 4a. I'm more than happy with the A-series phones.
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I'm no expert on things Canada, (though I was born there) but seeing how close it is to the US, and if the phone has the necessary LTE/5G bands could you not somehow import one at US prices?

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I'm no expert on things Canada, (though I was born there) but seeing how close it is to the US, and if the phone has the necessary LTE/5G bands could you not somehow import one at US prices?
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There in lays the trick. Apparently Google is clamping down on such shenanigans. Currently it appears my option is to have a friend who lives in Japan, order a US version, ship it there and pay import charges, then have him ship to me. I'm guessing but that'll put the cost of 5a into the 6/pro price range... And if that's the case, I'd be better off getting that directly from Google.
I'm the meantime, I'll hold onto my $'s and see what's what with the 6 and 6Pro and decide then. After all it's not like my 4a isn't doing the job

I pre-ordered. I have been holding out on replacing my 2 XL. No newer features, even flagship, were that appealing and I held out as long as I could since I cracked the screen on the 2 XL. All I need is stock android updates and long battery time. I don't play games, so not terribly concerned with the 60hz.

I preordered one as well. My first pure google phone. Can't wait to give it a try.

Pre-ordered mine along with the pixel a buds. Definitely looking forward to it. I know ill likely get one of the 6's as well lol.

I received notice that mine shipped today. It's supposed to be here Friday EOD.

If it ever launches in India, I am getting 2.

Oh well, started the RMA for mine this morning. Freezes up too often when streaming YouTube videos. Hesitates too much when scrolling through web pages. Gets hot using camera. Still on June 5th patch???? Hate the Pixel launcher. Had to put Nova on it! Just cannot compete with my OnePlus 8T. Say what you will about the evolution of OnePlus...but my last 3 phones from them have all been great! Still hard to beat for the $$$$$ I highly doubt that I will ever buy another Pixel. $35.00 restocking fee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMH

Question Are you interested in switching to a Google Pixel 7?

Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7, which seems to be an excellent smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE

Last year I preordered a Pixel 6. I was so hyped. New design, new SoC, stock Android, great camera. And then I got the device and there was problems with the screen, I had the accessibility service freeze bug and Google did nothing to fix it for months. I sent the device to RMA 2 times. Updates were delayed, more bugs came. It was a mess so I sold the device and made financial loss.
I dislike the fact that they made the display for the Pixel 7 smaller than the one of the Pixel 6, and I dislike curved edges on the pro version. Curved display edges are a stupid useless feature - it's no good for haptics and IMO it's marketing crap plus good screen protectors are either hard to find or expensive for them.
So maybe I'm gonna buy a Pixel 7. Maybe not. Right now I got a Realme GT 2 Pro and it's like the OnePlus device I always wanted, but the camera is not that good and it's missing the alert slider. BBK Electronics is not really cool and what they done to OnePlus and Oxygen OS is bad. Having a Pixel with Vanilla Android again would be nice. And the cameras are always very good on Pixels. I love that.
Let's see how much they will cost here in Germany. Maybe I'll gift one to myself for christmas. But I'll wait... not gonna preorder again. I've learned.

The "expected" differences/upgrades on the 7 PRO are not awe inspiring to me IMO (since the 6 PRO received a lot of upgrades from previous Pixels) coupled with the idea of spending $900 for minimal, or unimportant to me upgrades just doesn't make sense for my needs.
I'll wait for the 8 Pro

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Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7, which seems to be an excellent smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE
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They always seem to be an excellent smartphone on paper but disappointing in reality.

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They always seem to be an excellent smartphone on paper but disappointing in reality.
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I had a Pixel 2XL and until then I never kept a device as long as I kept that one. It was great (and I used to build a ROM for it / not cooking tho, just building).

I'm planning to get the Pixel 7 and I think this could be a great phone and a competition to iPhone 14 series!

Not at that size. Way too big for me. I learned after I got the P6 that I'd never buy anything larger than my 6a. 7a is a distinct possibility though.

I'm in a watch and wait attitude for now....

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I'm planning to get the Pixel 7 and I think this could be a great phone and a competition to iPhone 14 series!
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It might come within striking distance of the 14 and 14 Plus with their older SoCs (keeping in mind the Tensor G2 leaked performance puts it between a Snapdragon 870 and 888, nowhere near current flagship performance and current flagships can't even match the A15) but there is no chance it can come even remotely close to the Pros except in camera and charging speed (if Google chooses to increase it, I am betting it's the same 21~23W as last year). If Apple had gone to USB-C and introduced true fast charging this year I would have switched to the 14 Pro Max because I'm so tired of the random lags, overheating, battery drain, and gaming performance issues my OnePlus 9 has while my 2 year old 12 Pro Max still runs everything I have tried effortlessly. Like it's always funny watching these "speed test" videos that just test app launching speed and nothing else. Apple's optimization is next level.

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Yeah, and it feels like the software giant is least interested in their own software.

I have a Pixel 7 in my plans. I currently have Oneplus 6t for 4 years. I wanted a new Oneplus but they are big. I'm waiting for the premiere.

I have a Pixel 6 and happy with it, but miss the telephoto capability. But my 6 is only a year old, so unlikely to rush - maybe wait for a deal and see how stable folk report it to be. Seems silly to invest in a 6 Pro, when a 7 Pro would get me an extra year's updates and by the sounds of it a slightly stronger telephoto capability.... Camera quality/capability is key for me.

No, unless they stop using samsung-made tensor chips.

Tensor is fine. The long term software support is also fine.
What maynot be fine is a no so Pro SoC in the long run.
- Just my thought.

I am happy with my P6.
5G data and up to date software for buying the P6. I do not really see anything that tickles me for me to get the P7.

It's time for me to upgrade. My Pixel 3 XL is starting to have issues with the front camera, and the power button. It still runs great, but I don't want to chance some showstopper stopping me from using it soon, so I ordered a Pixel 7 yesterday. Should be a nice upgrade.

My P5 is wonderful.
But I am pre-, ordering the P7!
It just looks terrific. I only wish hazel/gold was available in P7. But I'll settle for either Snow or lemongrass. Once I decide I'll order.

I'm ready for the Pixel 7 Pro, should be a decent upgrade over my 3 and 4 XL's. I know I"m going to miss some of the features that I've grown accustomed to over the last few years (Squeeze and Face Unlock) mostly.
I'm sure I will adapt, though

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I'm ready for the Pixel 7 Pro, should be a decent upgrade over my 3 and 4 XL's. I know I"m going to miss some of the features that I've grown accustomed to over the last few years (Squeeze and Face Unlock) mostly.
I'm sure I will adapt, though
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The Pixel 7 and 7pro both have face unlock

I believe it's only for phone unlock not biometric auth for apps though.