Note 8 DEX Multitrack USB Audio Recording / External Microphones [STOCKFW] - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hi XDA Community
Setup:
Native Instruments Komplete Audio 6 (connected to a USB 3.1 HUB because otherwise 48V Phantom Power does not work)
Two Condenser MICs connected to INPUT 1 and INPUT2 of the USB Sound card, powered by 48V
Samsung DEX Dock
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 (Single Sim) running Android 9 (2020 May Security Updates)
Findings:
1) Signal Messenger App
recording Voice Messages seems to use 44100 Hz recording, and the USB is most likely set to 48000 Hz. This results in crackling and digital noise in the recorded audio file
i played around with the Voice Recorder (see 2) and many other things, and Signal Messenger on DEX Screen suddenly started to record nearly correctly on 48000 Hz..
No digital noise
Records Line 1 and Line 2 onto just the left side of a stereo signal. Playback of that recording plays only on Left Speaker
After rebooting, today i cannot get this behaviour back, digital noise is there and i struggle again to find a solution how to tell Android 9 to use 48000 Hz for Signal Voice Recording or any other app with the lack of settings
i tried Voice Call with Signal Messenger on DEX Screen, but the Audio was forced to Earpiece or Speakerphone, especially the other side complained about crackling in sound quality which only disappeared, when i started Signal Messenger on the Mobile Screen on the Note 8, then it used only the internal mic and the Speakerphone, and other party said the quality is really good, but not what i want with the external mics
2a) Voice Recorder (there are several) https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....app.voicenote
can choose 44100 and 48000 Hz after my USB Soundcard is recognized and it also shows recording from External Mic Notification.
If I choose 48000 Hz the sound has no crackling or digital noise, it is crystal clear, but mono, it records both inputs on a mono track, stereo setting is greyed out
if i chose 44100 Hz i have digital noise, crackling.
uses system audio drivXDA
2b) Voice Recorder (another on) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splendapps.voicerec
can choose 44100 and 32000 Hz and you can even chose stereo and here it works
with 44100 Hz there is digital noise, but stereo
with 32000 Hz there is no digital noise, it is a preset called FM quality and i would like to use this for voice recording for broadcasting on FM later, we run a show on the radio
3) Audio Evolution Mobile Studio DEMO Version
comes with custom audio drivers (like DAWs on Windows also use the ASIO Drivers that are invented by Steinberg Cubase)
can use all inputs from an USB soundcard for recording in any setup with any KHz or bit in mono or stereo setup
in my case this was the only tool where i can correctly record my stereo mic setup
very nice but cannot change System Settings since comes with custom LOW LATENCY driver
maybe i will buy this Actually i use Steinberg Cubase on Windows usually
4) Zoom App
i tried a Video Meeting with Zoom App on Android 9 on this Samsung Note 8 to a Windows Laptop in different country
did not work at all on DEX, crashed on the DEX screen after joining the meeting
neither external USB Soundcard worked
if you launch on the mobile only Speakerphone, Earpiece and Internal Mic is supported
video freezes for both parties if I switch to a different app and continues if i put Zoom App in foreground
5) Google Meet
runs on Samsung DEX Screen perfectly
can present my screen from DEX
did not test with external soundcard
other paties video continues to work in background
my camera that is shared to the other partie does not record if i switch Meet App to background
better than Zoom App on Android, no wonder its Google
6) WaveEditor
best Multitrack Audio Editor that I have seen so far
Works on Samsung DEX
not really for recording but for editing/cutting/postpro
Free Version has most features, but for pro editing like compressing/parametric EQ need to buy the Pro version, I am thinking about that
really good tool, I am very happy
Conclusion:
In Signal Messenger App I have also this crackling if I record a Voice Message (and it Runs on Dex), so I suppose I need to tell Android Audio Manager to use 48000 Hz on my USB Soundcard Inputs. But how? I would like to see a Audio Manager Configuration Tool, that can change this System Wide
How do I achieve this? Any Ideas are welcome. Thanks for reading and thanks for your time posting a reply. Good day.
PS, i also opened a support Case at Samsung (in Community and Support) kee p you updated if they answer.

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Recording sound with external mic?

Hello guys!
I m a very happy user of my diamond and this forum...
I was wondering if there is any application that would allow to record using and external mic , plugged in via a usb - 3,5mm jack for example.
Then i can stop carryin my Iriver h340 thats getting pretty heavy!
Isn t there a tool that can also update date and time automatically ?
Thanks in advance and big up for all the cookers!
As far as I know, the Notes application is able to record from an external mic just like the fixed mic. Just go to Menu > View Recording Toolbar.
There are several applications to sync the time, can't think of any off the top of my head.
The supplied headset has an external mic in it, you should be able to hack into it and solder on a jack socket, then plug in any mic. In theory you should also be able to do the same with a BT headset.
You need "synchrotime" to correct time and date via the internet.
these were quick answers!!
I was more thinking about recording rehearsals and concerts , so more like a dedicated application were u can choose the sample rate m and also the format for ex wave or mp3 plus a gain control...
ttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnxxxxxxxxxxx
Pardon me for digging up old bones, but I've been searching for an answer to this for a bit now...
Like the OP asked, is there an app out there for recording audio from an external mic plugged into the 3.5mm jack? I own a Samsung Galaxy S (Fascinate) and know that the hardware side of this topic is covered.
The only "Notes" application I have is notebook. I have audio recorder, but that doesn't have any such settings to choose from an external audio source (and I've tried to see if it just switches to that source if it is plugged in, no luck).
This would make life so much easier for me if I could pull this off. I'd pay for a decent app that covered that.
Wanderingandroid said:
Pardon me for digging up old bones, but I've been searching for an answer to this for a bit now...
Like the OP asked, is there an app out there for recording audio from an external mic plugged into the 3.5mm jack? I own a Samsung Galaxy S (Fascinate) and know that the hardware side of this topic is covered.
The only "Notes" application I have is notebook. I have audio recorder, but that doesn't have any such settings to choose from an external audio source (and I've tried to see if it just switches to that source if it is plugged in, no luck).
This would make life so much easier for me if I could pull this off. I'd pay for a decent app that covered that.
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In a twist to this question/ request.
I am and have been looking for an app also that will be able to utilize the external mic 3.5 mm jack to record audio to the built-in video application.
NATIVE! not hacked or Jerry-rigged. I tried this by plugging in a headset /mic to the external mic port on an EVO and HTC Incredible and it still seemed to use the regular mic on the phone not the 3.5 mm jack.
I'd like to use my incredible/ EVO/ (and rumored HTC Incredible HD) to be able to connect a lapel mic with transmitter and receiver so audio sounds local without echo from a distance.
Plus I could have 2 people miced up and one video camera.
There is no reason why this shouldn't work.
We are not talking power just software access.
If the notes apps uses it to record why can't the video app use the same port.
Bodeen3
External Mic and Video
Wanderingandroid said:
Pardon me for digging up old bones, but I've been searching for an answer to this for a bit now...
Like the OP asked, is there an app out there for recording audio from an external mic plugged into the 3.5mm jack? I own a Samsung Galaxy S (Fascinate) and know that the hardware side of this topic is covered.
The only "Notes" application I have is notebook. I have audio recorder, but that doesn't have any such settings to choose from an external audio source (and I've tried to see if it just switches to that source if it is plugged in, no luck).
This would make life so much easier for me if I could pull this off. I'd pay for a decent app that covered that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In a twist to this question/ request.
I am and have been looking for an app also that will be able to utilize the external mic 3.5 mm jack to record audio to the built-in video application.
NATIVE! not hacked or Jerry-rigged. I tried this by plugging in a headset /mic to the external mic port on an EVO and HTC Incredible and it still seemed to use the regular mic on the phone not the 3.5 mm jack.
I'd like to use my incredible/ EVO/ (and rumored HTC Incredible HD) to be able to connect a lapel mic with transmitter and receiver so audio sounds local without echo from a distance.
Plus I could have 2 people miced up and one video camera.
There is no reason why this shouldn't work.
We are not talking power just software access.
If the notes apps uses it to record why can't the video app use the same port.
Bodeen3
Way to record audio on Android using external mic
Hi.
You have to buy adapter which will split the signal for microphone in and audio out (you probably know 3.5 jack in your phone is 2 directional as it supports headset with mic)
You can try to look for it on Amazon (headset buddy)
or solder into headset in the pins which are responsible for mic signal.
Then,
I know only 1 app for android which supports recording from external microphone:
Arabela Audio Recorder - choose DEFAULT audio source and it should catch the signal from external mic connected through adapter via 3.5 jack.
I THINK it can catch the audio while recording video because it works in background ... so later you will be able to remove the audio from video recording and join it with the one you recorded using Arabela with some kind of video editor
regards
If you need a adapter for the phone, then check what i did here in this thread:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...se-a-external-microphone-with-my-galaxy-nexus
There are also link to a app which can record video with the external microphone
simonbove said:
If you need a adapter for the phone, then check what i did here in this thread:
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...se-a-external-microphone-with-my-galaxy-nexus
There are also link to a app which can record video with the external microphone
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I think any mic with 4 pole jack should work without any adapters. Like the one's used on iphones etc. Check on ebay for iphone microphone. I ordered a cheap one $1.80 just to test on my SGSII but im 99% it's going to be working. There are some high quality for about $30 as well. Like this one HERE

Voice recorder with external microphone?

OK so the TYTN II has the USB output thingy for headphones and the hands free kit with built in microphone. And you can also buy the USB to 3.5mm connection for standard headphones.
But could you attach a 3.5mm connection microphone to that adapter instead? Could you attach a broadcast quality microphone to the TYTN II and use the built in voice recorder program to record an interview?
Discuss.
Technically yes, but your broadcast mic won't be very useful because AFAIK the phone also has a "telephone quality" filter on the external mic input.
kilrah said:
Technically yes, but your broadcast mic won't be very useful because AFAIK the phone also has a "telephone quality" filter on the external mic input.
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how does it works
What?
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Is it a software or hardware filter?
I use Hi-Q MP3 Recorder with my Vibrant. It records in CD quality and sounds great. I did this the narrative for a quick video I put together a few days ago, just using the phone's built-in mic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXQvJuI41YE
The sound you hear in the background is my noisy desktop PC - didn't go somewhere quiet to record it, my bad. Still, the original sounds *much* better; YouTube's conversion reduced its quality quite a bit. I'd imagine it would produce decent recordings given a better mic.

Samsung Focus S - Bluetooth Support

I am finding that the Bluetooth driver/support is better on my Focus S than my original Focus.
The original Focus would always play Youtube and Zune video through the analog out even when Bluetooth was connected.
The Focus S sends audio for everything to the currently selected device, be it analog or stereo Bluetooth.
Also, audio via Bluetooth seems much louder and of better quality.
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[Q] Is the HDR microphone used for sound recording?

Hi guys,
I was wondering if someone with a HTC One M7 with HDR mic could record loud audio with the voice recording app, or an app like "Smart Voice Recorder" which allows you to select the sample rate at which to record (it has an option for 44.1Khz CD quality on it), and see if the recording is distorted at all?
I'm asking because Nokia's phones which have a HAAC mic utilise the HDR mic when recording video, but when recording audio only, loud sounds are distorted which means it doesn't use the high quality HDR/HAAC mic, and apparently no one'd written a windows phone app that uses the HDR/HAAC mic when I asked last year - can someone confirm things are different on Android?
Of course running a custom ROM may mean the HDR mic isn't supported in the first place (referring to this thread).
Would be great if someone could experiment and find out what's what!

P20 Pro - poor audio quality on in-car phone system

Hi there,
I replaced my HTC 10 with the P20 Pro and since then i have really poor audio quality when using my hands-free phone system over bluetooth in my car (Mercedes). The quality was good with the HTC and turned bad with the Huawei. I looked up the settings in the developer menu and saw that the BT coded that is used is SBC. When i turn off Bluetooth on the mobile, i am able to select a different codec but as soon as i turn on BT again, SBC is selected automatically again in the menu. Is there anything i can do to permanently select another codec such as aac or aptx? On my HTC, the option for following the "standard setting" is preselected.
facing the same issue with my Ford Focus. Sound is cracking, and the only way to fix it (temporarly) is to reset the connection and made new one. but only works for a few days, then it returns....
Also waiting for a fix, and even in the latest firmware version Cl20C432131 .
Nissan Note 2012
Same problem in my Nissan. I don't know what codec my old galaxy s7 used but the drop in quality when switching to P20 pro was huge. I also cannot permanently change the codec settings. This is a deal breaker.
You should remember that there is 2 ways bluetooth working with sending audio - in handset way (low quality but allows microphone input) and in headphone way (normal quality but no mic input).
Exactly the same issue as me in my Audi. I don't know if I'm glad other people have this issue but at least i know it isn't just me or a fault with my car haha!
People the other end seem to hear me fine. Its not practical to keep connecting and disconnecting each time i want to make a call in the car.
xaik said:
You should remember that there is 2 ways bluetooth working with sending audio - in handset way (low quality but allows microphone input) and in headphone way (normal quality but no mic input).
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Interesting, I'm using android auto and I believe it switches between these modes automatically. With my old Galaxy S7 I could hear a real downgrade in audio quality when the phone was responding to my voice prompts. On the P20 Pro, the voice prompt responses seem much higher quality than the previous phone but the music is much lower quality - as if it is only using a single mode.
I'm not sure about 'no mic input' though, both phones could can hear voice prompts over the music (as long as I shout!)
Nevertheless I will test with google music only and disable android auto and will report back.
(for me the music quality is always poor even after reconnecting - it does not sound like it is coming over the voice channel, it is more subtle a difference than that)
gilesknap said:
Interesting, I'm using android auto and I believe it switches between these modes automatically. With my old Galaxy S7 I could hear a real downgrade in audio quality when the phone was responding to my voice prompts. On the P20 Pro, the voice prompt responses seem much higher quality than the previous phone but the music is much lower quality - as if it is only using a single mode.
I'm not sure about 'no mic input' though, both phones could can hear voice prompts over the music (as long as I shout!)
Nevertheless I will test with google music only and disable android auto and will report back.
(for me the music quality is always poor even after reconnecting - it does not sound like it is coming over the voice channel, it is more subtle a difference than that)
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Try connection with car audio in your phone with active option "media audio"
Thanks
xaik said:
Try connection with car audio in your phone with active option "media audio"
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Thanks, I tried this and it had no effect on sound quality, but......
I need to confess a stupid oversight. It turns out that my Google Music settings specified 'Normal' quality over mobile network. I set this to 'Always High' and restored the original quality of music that I was used to.
So it seems that:-
My car has always used SBC at 44.1 KHz 16bit
Even with this low fidelity Bluetooth connection, it is still possible to distinguish Normal and High quality modes of Google Music.

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