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Questions for those of you who have or used both...
1) Does the accelerometer add any real usefulness to the WM experience ?
2) Is there much WM software out there that takes real advantage of the accelerometer ?
3) Besides automatic screen rotation, what great smartphone features are made possible by use of an accelerometer ?
I was just wondering whether the accelerometer has graduated from being a novelty/luxury to something that is actually indispensible to a WM smartphone.
had one in my n95, deactivated it!
my mate has a touch HD, hes also not suing it.
to be honest, there is no pratical use for it. u dont need it for anything usefull.
id allways swap a gyro for a compass cause if i hate something, then its navigating with google maps and not seeing in which direction i currently look at.
it ould be usefull in combination with compass for displaying aternate reality.
1 - No.
2 - Yes, but they are useless.
3 - Nothing else and the automatic screen rotation is super annoying. I always keep it off on my N95 or any other device for that matter.
Well, I felt that way when X1 was released, but I figured things would have been improved between then and now
just imagine.. i have many friends that use Nokia with Tilt sensor.. And almost all said that once they disabled their tilt sensor.. their phone hangups are almost nil... from almost everyday..
I'm happy with my X1's magnetic sensor.. it only triggers when i needed it...
I had a fuze and loved having the g-sensor for taking pictures. If you take a picture in portrait it saves it that way when reviewing it.
so I want want the accelerometer for this reason alone.
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I had a fuze and loved having the g-sensor for taking pictures. If you take a picture in portrait it saves it that way when reviewing it.
so I want want the accelerometer for this reason alone.
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this could be solved by software too, to a certain degree ofc.
Ive got a Panasonic lumix and that digicam has the same feature. it either has a gyro or its doing it by software somehow. i guess its a software thingy.
The accelerometer is nice to have for driving apps like measuring G and acceleration etc...
Did not use it in the Diamond, did not miss it in the SEX1, not impressed with it in the Diamond2.
I bought X1 in part because I don't care about accelerometer. I would love to have one in my next phone, but not for any practical purpose, and I frankly am not willing to pay any more money to add it. It's neat, but not necessary or even practical for just about anything.
Had it (iPhone 3GS), didn't miss it (Xperia X1i).
Finicky thing was a PITA.
^ U loved Xperia X1i over iPhone 3GS?????????
i am havin hard time which one to keep.
got both at home currently.
3GS is a strong competitor...and it makes good use of accelerometer
Nocturnal310 said:
^ U loved Xperia X1i over iPhone 3GS?????????
i am havin hard time which one to keep.
got both at home currently.
3GS is a strong competitor...and it makes good use of accelerometer
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Yeah, I find it weird as well.... There's something strange in prefering a vastly superior product to a piece of **** devioce...
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Yeah, I find it weird as well.... There's something strange in prefering a vastly superior product to a piece of **** devioce...
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orelsi. whats u view on the palm pre? i know u dont like the iphone as i also dont think much of it but been looking at the pre (not to replace my x1, but just out of interest). would like a play with one as it seem a nice phone.
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orelsi. whats u view on the palm pre? i know u dont like the iphone as i also dont think much of it but been looking at the pre (not to replace my x1, but just out of interest). would like a play with one as it seem a nice phone.
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Same here lol. I am intrigued by it and it is a curious device for sure. Unfortunatelly, I haven't been able to play with it, yet. I definitely want to, though.
There isn't much to say until I get it in my hands. It looks sleek and sexy when it's closed, but I don't like that particular form factor and that type of keyboard. The keyboard seems kinda small as well.
WebOS is something that I REALLY want to try. That card based interface looks very convenient and those cards are LIVE, a feature that had to be implemented in our panels...
Bottom point, I want to try one and it looks like a very good device (not as good as the X1 ) and it has a pretty good dev communiity as well.
Pre's build quality is apparently touch and miss. There was the "rotating" slider incident. (Which is severely WTF?!?!)
However the keyboard looks like it'd cut my thumbs (what's with that sharp looking lip?) and is smallish, too small for my large fingers.
Hey all,
So I've thought of using my android phone as a gunsight on my airsoft g36, and so far, I've gotten away with the standard camera app, and a plastic sheet with a dot in the middle. However, an app that uses the camera and overlays a cross or a dot that is moveable would be nice! Particularly if the camera can be soft-hacked to see IR light more readily. Let's see if anyone cooks something nice.
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Eliwu26
Sorry to not really answer your question, but you have an airsoft G36 too?? Awesome, man! I have a Classic Army G36E. Really love that thing. Hasn't seen any action in quite some time though... Pretty sad, but I haven't had anyone to play with around here.
But have you tried looking at some of the camera apps on the market? Some might have some random things you could throw on the screen as guides or assists for taking pictures. And with the stock camera you could press the screen to put the focus box at a certain part of the screen. Only problem is that it could fail to focus if you're moving too much... Hmm...
Yeah, too bad it's only an Echo 1 though. But it does have a 6.03 tightbore, a silencer, and a custom doublemag hicap I built. The camera app's square is much too big for aiming. As for nightvision, I tried taking apart the camera, but the darn lens is way too small to take the IR filter off. Maybe someone can soft-hack or cook something for us.
Oh very nice. At least it's still something. I actually got some new mags for mine too. The hicaps they give you are just annoying. Got like a box of 5 170-cap mags that are spring-fed.
As for the camera, it might not be too hard to go into it and just edit the actual pictures for the square in the .apk itself. I might even be able to have a look at it...
After some messing about on-line I was intrigued to find this video review of something that "looked" similar to the Galaxy note.
Obviously its not the real thing as you and I are well aware but it prompted me to do some more researching.
After a few nights of checking out the different versions of the "clone" I decided to bite the bullet and buy one to play about with.
Now I don't know much about Android phones and was hoping someone might be able to give me some advice as to exactly what this phone is capable of in terms of using the android marketplace and installing generic android apps.
I am a little unsure of some of the screens. It shows that it has Android Version 4.0.3 - Does that mean it has ICS already installed?
The other thing I was wondering is whether or not there are any custom roms that will do away with some of the China/Far East apps/languages that this thing will be able to run?
I have attached some pics and also the pics that I was sent in .rar files from the supplier..
**I understand that this is not the real deal so anyone who feels like having a nice flaming session then rant away. My questions are genuine in the hope to learn something..
Cheers
It's probably the cheapest hardware around in that. Don't expect any smoothness and it's on the completely opposite end of the phone spectrum from the Note. Doubt there are any custom ROM for it as well, but it probably runs many apps from Play.
I don't know why you would waste money on it, unless you try to look cool by pretending you have a genuine Note. It's a bit like walking around with a fake Rolex.
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Yea for sure I know what you're saying. I know someone with a fake rolex. He has had it for many many years. It still even tells the right time
I in no way purchased it to "pretend" to have the real deal. I have an iphone already and this was more something to play around with.
I like the "open source" side to it and with my Linux background and Programming and coding firmware for Satellite TV Receivers It took my fancy as its not locked down as badly as an I-Phone.
I guess from reading a bit more I would have do dump the firmware that is already on the phone and decompile it and figure out how to edit it to my own needs and then re-flash.
Hell, for £130 if it keeps me amused and out of mischief for a few months then its money well spent.
I would rather learn on something that costs a LOAD less. Once I am familiar with the whole system structure, Tools, Terms, Apps, etc etc I will probably buy the real deal.
Take Care..
I was thinking of buying one. Are they good? Where did you buy yours? The white one looks nice.
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I was thinking of buying one. Are they good? Where did you buy yours? The white one looks nice.
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hi mate, when it arrives I will let you know!
still beats the dell streak lol
not bad for a fake phone imo, anyone who wants a big screen on a budget could use it.
Hey I woudn't mind using this over my (screen-plagued issues) Gnote..
This phone easily beats the features of the real mccoy.
I wonder how would Sammy feel that a run of the mill cheapo phone like this has their branded logo emblazoned on it?
Watching the video mesmerized me on the myriad capabilities this knockoff can offer.
Also great music, it 'tranced' me while watching the phone's features...
Cheers!
Does it run real ICS ?
There are fake Chinese 'iFones' in the market which certainly don't have IOS.
He says in the video it runs Gingerbread which would also explain the GB in the build number.
For 130 pounds I guess it's a pretty decent phone. It has a pretty slow single core CPU and a relatively low resolution for such a big screen but in the end you get what you pay for. I'm sure it's a nice toy to play around with and for a first Android experience you could do a lot worse but since I first used my Note I'll never settle for anything less anymore
Because these types of phones are never meant for international sales I doubt there will be any viable custom roms anytime soon and I think you can forget about official updates but even stock Gingerbread is a very decent OS. You'll miss out on a big part of the 'openness' of Android though.
Once you decide to get the real deal you'll be amazed at what the real Note is actually capable of.
I guess it has 800x480 res which gives you pixels like golf balls with a 5.3" screen. That's so extremely far from the Note hi res experience...
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I guess it has 800x480 res which gives you pixels like golf balls with a 5.3" screen. That's so extremely far from the Note hi res experience...
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screen is 5"
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screen is 5"
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In the movie the guy says "it's got a 5.3 inch 5-point multi-touch screen".
That's another difference from the real Note, only being able to detect a maximum of 5 touch points. The Note detects at least 10. Nothing to be concerned about I think, I've never used more than 3 fingers at the same time.
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In the movie the guy says "it's got a 5.3 inch 5-point multi-touch screen".
That's another difference from the real Note, only being able to detect a maximum of 5 touch points. The Note detects at least 10. Nothing to be concerned about I think, I've never used more than 3 fingers at the same time.
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Ah okay cool cool. I think in the vid he says 5.3 but on his blog, he later corrects it.
Good that you mention about the 5 touch points. I wondered what he was doing when he touched the screen like that.
How and why would you use more then 5 fingers at one time anyway? Still pretty cool that the "real" note can do 10.
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He says in the video it runs Gingerbread which would also explain the GB in the build number.
For 130 pounds I guess it's a pretty decent phone. It has a pretty slow single core CPU and a relatively low resolution for such a big screen but in the end you get what you pay for. I'm sure it's a nice toy to play around with and for a first Android experience you could do a lot worse but since I first used my Note I'll never settle for anything less anymore
Because these types of phones are never meant for international sales I doubt there will be any viable custom roms anytime soon and I think you can forget about official updates but even stock Gingerbread is a very decent OS. You'll miss out on a big part of the 'openness' of Android though.
Once you decide to get the real deal you'll be amazed at what the real Note is actually capable of.
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Ah okay. I am already mooching about for legit ones and there seems to be a good deal on the Real Note from amazon.de for about £350
I am actually quite looking forward for the fake one to arrive to see what its like. When I spoke to the seller, he said it came with some Legit Sammy software so who knows what that's for..
Looks like it Left Guangzhou on Friday so I expect it to be here sometime before the end of this week.
I think spythedude is aware of the fact this phone doesn't come anywhere near the specifications of the real Note. Everything about the phone screams FAKE!!! But still, for 130 pounds I think it's a pretty decent device given it's large capacitive screen. I can't think of any Android phone getting anywhere near such screen size for 130 pounds. It won't be the fastest phone around but there used to be Android phones with even worse hardware that still gave a good user experience.
@spythedude >> If you want, please let us know what you think of the device when you receive it, I'm really curious about it.
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Then I mostly emphasized about Colonel Zap reviewer and Fastcardtech fraud, as this is indeed a real fraud when mixing up Samsung product images during unboxing with this so called clone.
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Hi
I didn't mix up any pictures, I'm showing in my video exactly what I received when I ordered it. I have the FEELING (and I don't know this) that the box it came in might actually be an original box but of course it could be a fake as well. The phone definitely is NOT made by Samsung and whatever specs I mention in the video, I did so to the best of my knowledge.
I'm not trying too "fool" anyone, I'm just reporting about a phone, trying to show people how a device like this operates, that's it!
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@spythedude >> If you want, please let us know what you think of the device when you receive it, I'm really curious about it.
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Hi mate, yea for sure. I'll try and do my best to give an accurate feedback and as much info as possible.
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I don't know what the laws say about such a "promotion" in your own country,
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I'm not promoting or selling anything. I just make videos of the phones and tablets that I order from China, giving who ever might be interested in these devices "the heads up" what the devices are all about.
I couldn't care less if some likes a particular device or not and/or orders one of them from whatever online store
I've been reviewing phone and tables for years now, some are "fakes", some are not and so far my videos have been very much appreciated by the majority of my viewers
If you don't like my videos, don't watch them. If you don't like the device, don't buy it But please don't accuse me of mixing things up to fool anyone, I've never done that and I never will.
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I'm not promoting or selling anything. I just make videos of the phones and tablets that I order from China, giving who ever might be interested in these devices "the heads up" what the devices are all about.
I couldn't care less if some likes a particular device or not and/or orders one of them from whatever online store
I've been reviewing phone and tables for years now, some are "fakes", some are not and so far my videos have been very much appreciated by the majority of my viewers
If you don't like my videos, don't watch them. If you don't like the device, don't buy it But please don't accuse me of mixing things up to fool anyone, I've never done that and I never will.
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ColonelZap, don't worry buddy. When people sit on a high horse its difficult to see things properly or for what it is.
I appreciate and really enjoy your site for checking things out and I am sure others do too.. You will always get a small percentage of people who like to cry about things they don't agree with or understand.
Take Care
I have been looking into this because my phone is a blackberry and is not really working out for me... so when you get the phone, woud you mind making a video showing how fast is temple run and other such games, also please do a camera video test
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I have been looking into this because my phone is a blackberry and is not really working out for me... so when you get the phone, woud you mind making a video showing how fast is temple run and other such games, also please do a camera video test
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Oh okay cool.. I'll do my best. I don't really play games but I'll have a go
I have a XT1096. I love this phone. The Nexus experience and Moto Voice is all great, but man is the Camera app UI horrific. I can see what they were going for. I think they wanted some originality to phone camera UI but it ended up only being more inconvenient to use. Especially when I ask a stranger to take a photo for me, it's a nightmare. Are there any ported cameras or something that will make this UI simpler and more generic?
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I have a XT1096. I love this phone. The Nexus experience and Moto Voice is all great, but man is the Camera app UI horrific. I can see what they were going for. I think they wanted some originality to phone camera UI but it ended up only being more inconvenient to use. Especially when I ask a stranger to take a photo for me, it's a nightmare. Are there any ported cameras or something that will make this UI simpler and more generic?
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If only for photos, Google's latest camera from the Nexus works, but it crashes if you launch video etc.
Otherwise, Camera MX is a fairly good app.
Tried to download the Moto G4 Camera apk, but couldn't get it to install. Maybe someone can work on that?
For me though, the Moto camera as it is has survived simply thanks to its double twist to launch gesture, if not it would've been long replaced.
HTC Camera from the HTC 10 works just fine. You can find the apk here on xda. The only issue I found is that HDR is very inconsistent, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I ended up switiching back due to the fact that I rely on HDR way too often.
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I've had this Pixel 7 for 2 days. I like just about everything about it but the image quality of the front facing camera in video calls is embarrassing. I've searched everywhere and aside from a handful of forum posts elsewhere on the internet I don't see many people talking about this. Some going as far back as a year + with older pixel devices.
The only place the front camera looks ok is in the default camera app. I mainly use Google meet for video calls but discord, Whatsapp and Skype all have the same issue.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know of a way to improve the video call quality? Is Google ever going to do anything about this?
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I've had this Pixel 7 for 2 days. I like just about everything about it but the image quality of the front facing camera in video calls is embarrassing. I've searched everywhere and aside from a handful of forum posts elsewhere on the internet I don't see many people talking about this. Some going as far back as a year + with older pixel devices.
The only place the front camera looks ok is in the default camera app. I mainly use Google meet for video calls but discord, Whatsapp and Skype all have the same issue.
Anyone else have this problem? Anyone know of a way to improve the video call quality? Is Google ever going to do anything about this?
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how do you know what your video call quality look like? have you ever thought that its your internet?
It has nothing to do with the internet. The preview itself looks awful. Composing video messages on meet looks awful. Not even just video messages. Go into Meet and try and send a photo message to someone. If anyone here has had a different experience I would appreciate if you would share a screenshot from within Meet. I'm attaching a screenshot from Meet and another from the camera app both previewing the front facing camera.
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My sister asked me if I switched to new phone (Google Pixel 7) when I made my first whatsapp call to her. She was shocked to hear when I told I switched from Poco F1 and this call was from the new phone.
I have not tried any other app, but the front facing video quality sucks without doubt.
Even the photos taken from front facing cam (barring bright outdoor daylight photos) are extremely poor. This has been confirmed by several known youtube channels who are known for comparative analysis.
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My sister asked me if I switched to new phone (Google Pixel 7) when I made my first whatsapp call to her. She was shocked to hear when I told I switched from Poco F1 and this call was from the new phone.
I have not tried any other app, but the front facing video quality sucks without doubt.
Even the photos taken from front facing cam (barring bright outdoor daylight photos) are extremely poor. This has been confirmed by several known youtube channels who are known for comparative analysis.
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I tested out snapchat (an app I hadn't used in a very long time) and the image quality was so much better than in Meet. I'll be damned if I'm going to convince my family and friends to download snapchat after already convincing the iphone users in my life to install Duo just to talk to me with video.
Funny thing is Google is actively marketing right now with Snapchat to sell this phone. I keep seeing the ads on Twitter. Decent video calls in Meet are possible on this phone, they just have to make it happen.
I had a telehealth appointment for therapy yesterday and I couldn't believe how terrible my camera looked in the browser-based service they were using. This is on my Pixel 7 Pro.
I guess its all relative to what you consider as bad, I thought its good enough for goverment work...people I video call with havent complain
google likely wont do anything, its not a wide issue, or even an issue.
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not a wide issue, or even an issue.
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Poor video quality on Google's video calling app on Google's current phone isn't an issue when the camera is capable of a much better image?
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Poor video quality on Google's video calling app on Google's current phone isn't an issue when the camera is capable of a much better image?
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yea but thats an opinion of a few...you expect a corporation to dedicate their time to you?
I havent seen this complaint anywhere else but here.
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yea but thats an opinion of a few...you expect a corporation to dedicate their time to you?
I havent seen this complaint anywhere else but here.
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I must be asking too much for not wanting my video calls to look like I'm calling from a Gameboy. Meet looks better on the cheapest samsung phone. If this isn't making sense to you then feel free to read my previous replies again.
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I must be asking too much for not wanting my video calls to look like I'm calling from a Gameboy. Meet looks better on the cheapest samsung phone. If this isn't making sense to you then feel free to read my previous replies again.
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and I'm telling you, you are one of the few...google is not going to care what the few thinks.
If this was a problem, it would have been address a month ago.
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and I'm telling you, you are one of the few...google is not going to care what the few thinks.
If this was a problem, it would have been address a month ago.
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But he's not one of the few... Google themselves says its a known issue which would indicate more than a few and worth ignoring... It is a standard problem and there are many threads on multiple sites related to it... People dont come here to have their issue downplayed...
For the naysayers, take 2 phone hand in hand and do a video call, preferably connected to the same wifi and check it out.
I used my spouse Redmi Note 9 and the image quality was way better than how Google pixel 7 projected.
Simple test, no harm done and you can review it yourself
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I used my spouse Redmi Note 9 and the image quality was way better than how Google pixel 7 projected.
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and I'm telling you, you are one of the few...google is not going to care what the few thinks.
If this was a problem, it would have been address a month ago.
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Go ahead and post your screenshots of Meet vs. the camera app, Vio. Let's see what "good enough" looks like on your $600+ phone.
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Go ahead and post your screenshots of Meet vs. the camera app, Vio. Let's see what "good enough" looks like on your $600+ phone.
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and what does that prove? I'm not disapproving your point of view...like I said, there are far and few in between, none of the major reviewer has confirm your account so why would google care what you think?
Is it good?
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Is it good?
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I like the phone. I don't have any complaints besides Google's poor image quality in their Meet app. And, you know, I'm still not over the lack of an SD card but that's just me. It's a good android phone for the money, with some cool features.
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and what does that prove? I'm not disapproving your point of view...like I said, there are far and few in between, none of the major reviewer has confirm your account so why would google care what you think?
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This guy not a major reviewer?
UPDATE: It looks like Discord fixed theirs in a recent update. Either I'm misremembering how bad Discord looked or they fixed it. Google Meet's image quality still stinks on Pixel 7.
Definitely a better experience on Discord now. Video call quality with Google Meet on Pixel 7 is still poor. Here's some screenshots for comparison.
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I like the phone. I don't have any complaints besides Google's poor image quality in their Meet app. And, you know, I'm still not over the lack of an SD card but that's just me. It's a good android phone for the money, with some cool features.
This guy not a major reviewer?
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where exactly in the video are you referring to? hes comparing the video call from iPhone 14, not necessarily saying anything wrong with the camera.