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I dropped my galaxy note(from my desk to ground) yesterday and the screen got scratched badly>< (see attachment)
I wonder whether the galaxy note (ATT) have gorilla glass! My friend scratch his international version of galaxy with key, it is perfectly fine!!
Does ATT take out the gorilla glass?
Sorry to heae about that. Maybe do search for iphone glass polish or plastic polish. You maybe able to make it less obvious. Putting a screen protector on now can also hide some of the scratches too.
I always use a screen protector and also TPU case that has an edge higher then the glass. I thought about going without a screen protector when glass displays became popular but when I was looking for a used Ipad, I saw lots of scratched ones and that was supposed to be Gorilla too. I decided to to stick with the cheap insurance of a plastic film.
ATT galaxy note is same as international except for processor and home button.
As posted in n7000 forum gorilla can be scratched quite easily. I would highly recommend getting sgp glas.t
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scratch resistant is not scratch proof..
Gorilla Glass is ALWAYS Misunderstood, the main attribute of the glass is that it has greater strength and greater flexing abilities than regular glass, so it can be thinner yet stronger. The scratch resistance is about the same as tempered glass, good but not scratchproof....... there are things to fix the scratch but actually not a big deal...... more psychological than anything else
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Looks like they got the full body one and just the screen protector... been waiting for these!
I've put one of these on my Nexus S, but never on something as big as a tablet... hopefully it's just as easy.
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
edgeicator said:
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Where's the best place to get them and is there a warranty?
Online on their respective websites, bestskinsever.com, xoskins,com, etc. They all have lifetime warranties I believe.
edgeicator said:
There's so many other screen protectors that are better than zagg. Go with XO skins or BSE.
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Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
NLPUNITED said:
Just curious on how they are better ? Just the pricfe or quality?
I've had a Screen protector from Zagg on my SGS2 since day 1 and seems perfect . Is the touch feeling different on those ?
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
DaveWW00 said:
why in the world would you want to put a screen protector on one of these? you can never get them on perfect and even when placed really good they still ruin the look and feel of the screen in my opinion. also dont worry about the screen anyway- they are practically indestructible/unscratchable with the new glass they use. search youtube for gorilla glass 2 and see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8xI4PEU8c
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Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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A lot less orange peel, don't feel as rubbery, cheaper.
Because sand will scratch the glass regardless. It's like you don't understand how minerals work. silica has a hardness of 7. gorilla glass is ~6.4. Also, gorilla Glass 2 is thinner than gorilla glass 1, so it will shatter easier when dropped.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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First: Not sure where your ~6.4 number is coming from. Everything i have seen reports it between 7 and 9. Corning uses a different type of test for abrasion so there is no official mohs hardness number.
Second: What the heck are you doing with your tablet that you are that worried about getting sand on it? I have had my phone(s) on construction sites and in our laboratory full of soil, sand, rock, concrete, etc every day and havent scratched one of them once since i got one that has this glass. If it can not scratch under the abuse i give it at work it can survive anything most other people can throw at it. If you get some sand or something on the screen, gently wipe it off and it will be fine. Big thing you need to worry about scratching it is diamonds and other gems from jewelry or maybe the corundrum off of sandpaper or emery boards.
Third: Gorilla glass 2 is thinner but "Corning announced Gorilla Glass 2, a glass 20 percent thinner than the original material offering the same scratch resistance, the same strength and enhanced touch-sensitivity." Either way, a plastic film on the screen isnt going to help protect the screen from breaking in a drop- at best it will hold all the broken pieces together. Its adding no impact resistance to the glass.
My point was only this- why ruin the look at feel of the beautiful screen on this thing when corning and others have spent enormous amounts of money developing glass for these so you don't have to bother with a screen protector. Save your money and buy a nice case to carry it in when you aren't using it and you'll be fine.
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You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...ss-2-already-scratched-very-disappointed.html
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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Yeah, so put it in a case before putting it in your pocket, like the guy was saying.
You do that, you don't really need a screen protector.
edgeicator said:
You do realise that sand is literally everywhere right? It's in your pockets, on your table, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/wa1g0/gorilla_glass_2_is_overhyped_there_are_a_ton_of/
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s3/579703-so-much-scratch-resistant-gorilla-glass-2-a.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...ss-2-already-scratched-very-disappointed.html
Oh look, people managed to scratch their gorilla glass 2 phone in their pocket. It's merely scratch resistant and not scratch proof.
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how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
DaveWW00 said:
how big are your sand-filled pockets if you can fit a 10 inch tablet in them?
and you need to clean your table if its got sand all over it.
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I've helped friends install InvisibleShield on various phones, and despite a pristine install, I really never could stand the feel of one of these instead of the bare glass. When I got my Galaxy Nexus a year ago, I checked the reviews again, looked at friends' phones with screen protectors (including Zagg) and came away with the same impression -- makes sense, since they're probably using the same 3M protective film (used on leading edge of helicopter rotors, car bras, etc.)
Despite the horror stories and photos of screens destroyed with "invisible sand", I decided to chance it with the GNex so I could really enjoy the screen as it was intended to be used. The only protection the phone has ever had on it is the 2-piece (silicone inner with plastic shell) Incipio case that Verizon was selling. The screen has been bare for a year.
The phone is generally with me from 6am till bedtime. I travel frequently for work -- the phone gets jammed in a pants pocket, jacket pocket, placed in a cup holder in my car, I've dropped it 3 times (happily the Incipio was sufficient protection). I've had it on camping trips, and on our last two vacations at the beach the phone came along with me every day.
Point is: the Galaxy Nexus screen is not even true Gorilla Glass, but an unspecified "fortified glass" that Samsung used instead back then. Assumptions are that real Gorilla Glass is more scratch resistant, and Gorilla Glass 2 is an even better product. With all considered, my Galaxy Nexus has no visible scratches -- and I DO check it carefully, as flaws like that tend to bug me. I've taken a chance with the phone, but in the end I'm SO happy that I have been able to fully enjoy the phone as it was intended, rather than have to drag my finger across a slightly rubbery, slightly orange-peely, surface any time I want to use it.
In my own use, a tablet would subject to less potential scratching and wear than my phone. I'm careful with my tech equipment -- but I use it heavily, and I want to enjoy it to the fullest. So far, protectors like Zagg's product do more to compromise my experience than the protection is worth to me. Everyone uses their devices in their own fashion, some are rougher on them than others or more accident prone, and some live in sandier climates... Obviously each has to decide what makes sense for his/her self. For me, considering my usage patterns -- the state of the art of screens and screen protectors is such that I generally won't use one, and I haven't regretted it yet.
Hi People,
I got my HTC ONE today and I'm super excited to use it. Its screen resolution and processor is faster than my laptop so you can imagine my excitement.!
However, I have one doubt. Since this device has Gorilla Screen v2 on it, do we really need a screen guard? I have already ordered a leather case but will having the screen guard help?
Your inputs would be appreciated.!
Thanks!
himeshkaul said:
Hi People,
I got my HTC ONE today and I'm super excited to use it. Its screen resolution and processor is faster than my laptop so you can imagine my excitement.!
However, I have one doubt. Since this device has Gorilla Screen v2 on it, do we really need a screen guard? I have already ordered a leather case but will having the screen guard help?
Your inputs would be appreciated.!
Thanks!
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Gorilla : Vickers hardness = 622~701, Mohs scale = 5.5~6.0
Gorilla 2: Vickers hardness = 534~649, , Mohs scale = 5.0~5.5
Of course you need a screen protector. If it is Gorilla 3, such as Galaxy S4 used, then you may not need it.
yanggame said:
Gorilla : Vickers hardness = 622~701, Mohs scale = 5.5~6.0
Gorilla 2: Vickers hardness = 534~649, , Mohs scale = 5.0~5.5
Of course you need a screen protector. If it is Gorilla 3, such as Galaxy S4 used, then you may not need it.
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Source of this? You're likely saying that Gorilla glass 1 is stronger than the newer gorilla glass 2 which seems like the opposite if you ask me... Unless gorilla glass is playing tricks with us and wants to lose it's profits.
Riyal said:
Source of this? You're likely saying that Gorilla glass 1 is stronger than the newer gorilla glass 2 which seems like the opposite if you ask me... Unless gorilla glass is playing tricks with us and wants to lose it's profits.
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I think a more accurate representation of it would be that it's been made software but less shatter prone, as people in general would take a scratch over a crack. I don't know what they've done with v3.
I ordered one
I ordered the Spigen screen guard .... Just wanted 2 make sure since there is an additional care when you dont want to get your first scratch!
Since it's nearly impossible to replace the screen a screen protector would be a good idea. Better safe than sorry.
The HTC One X was the first phone that I didn't use a screen protector on. It never had a scratch on it and I think it also used gorilla glass 2. I couldn't find any screen protectors in the mall for the One yet so I bought an iPad Mini screen protector and cut it to size. It looks pretty crappy lol. I was hoping that I could use the One without a SP but I'm afraid to ruin this beautiful screen.
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Riyal said:
Source of this? You're likely saying that Gorilla glass 1 is stronger than the newer gorilla glass 2 which seems like the opposite if you ask me... Unless gorilla glass is playing tricks with us and wants to lose it's profits.
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Gorilla
http://www.corning.com/docs/specialtymaterials/pisheets/PI2317.pdf
Gorilla 2
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/sites/all/files/GG2%20PI%20Sheet%20Rev%20b_050912.pdf
I think it all depends on your track record with past screens like I'm pretty careful and don't use sp I just have a pouch love the look of this phone, I've just ordered a cheap soft gel case and that comes with a sp not sure if I will use it..
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I have a bad history with screen protectors since I suck at putting them on. I also absolutely hate cases, especially the chunky ones you see phones in today.
I used neoprene Nexus One pouches for my previous Android phones, but only when they were in my pocket or I was walking/running with them in my hand. Of course with the One's 4.7" screen that's not no longer an option. When I bought the phone on Wednesday I declined the Tmo employee's recommendations for cases and/or screen covers. However, while walking back to my car and examining the beautiful screen I changed my mind and went back to get a screen protector (which the Tmo guy applied nearly perfectly) for $25.
Interestingly I stopped using my pouch altogether for my Amaze over the last month or so and not a single scratch/marking has appeared on the screen or anywhere else.
If you are worried about very light scratches, I would recommend a screen protector.
yanggame said:
Gorilla : Vickers hardness = 622~701, Mohs scale = 5.5~6.0
Gorilla 2: Vickers hardness = 534~649, , Mohs scale = 5.0~5.5
Of course you need a screen protector. If it is Gorilla 3, such as Galaxy S4 used, then you may not need it.
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GG3 has the same hardness as GG2. Its just thinner and more brittle.
himeshkaul said:
Hi People,
I got my HTC ONE today and I'm super excited to use it. Its screen resolution and processor is faster than my laptop so you can imagine my excitement.!
However, I have one doubt. Since this device has Gorilla Screen v2 on it, do we really need a screen guard? I have already ordered a leather case but will having the screen guard help?
Your inputs would be appreciated.!
Thanks!
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I touch on this in my 'Guide: Perfect Screen Protector Install' post, but let me summarize.
Though the advent of Gorilla Glass (and other similar products that are based on the same or similar compositions but don't have a cool name) help reduce the severity or probability of scratches or shatters, the key word is 'reduce', not "eliminate".
I have, on many occasions, dropped my phone face down. Had it not been for the 3M Vikuiti on my Inspire, I have no doubt I'd have a chip or other blemish on the screen. If you've ever seen (or known of) a car that had a chip in the windshield, you'll know it never gets better, and can with the right conditions, bloom into a full-out crack.
Right now I have the Spigen/SGP crystal on my One for the same reason. For fifteen bucks, is it really worth taking a risk? We're talking about a $600 phone, folks. Just because you've been subsidized by your carrier and only came out of pocket for $200 doesn't mean it will cost any less to replace it.
Just sayin'. YMMV.
Just wondering if I should put a skinomi on the screen or something, it has gorilla glass but its better to be safe than sorry? If I drop the phone its going to break most likely, but anyone have any idea how much gorilla glass protects from minor scratch situations (such as having the phone in your pocket with keys, or just the general setting it down etc?
I suggest getting tempered glass for your screen. Gorilla Glass can still get scratched or scuffed. I know because within 3 days of having the note 3 i had a very light scuff that i could only hide by putting on the tempered glass. Of course a normal screen protector could have done the same but tempered glass is relatively cheap if you purchase it through ebay.
Depends. Some people do report getting scratches on Gorilla Glass. I myself have gone without screen protectors on my last three smartphones and all three screens are still like new. But I'm pretty careful about putting the phone in an otherwise empty pocket with the screen facing my leg, and other such precautions.
For protection against breaks tempered glass is your best bet. A plastic or vinyl protector just won't cut it. If scratches are all you're worried about, they work just fine.
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My earing made a small scratch in the screen when I held the phone up to my ear during a call. It took me awhile to realize that that was where the scratch came from.
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Come on guys why do we have to have this discussion in every device forum? Is gorilla glass scratch resistant, yes. Is gorilla glass scratch proof? Hell no. Bottom line it is your call, if you think you want to chance it and not use a screen protector then have at it and good luck to you. If you want to use a screen protector cause you would rather not risk it then great!
Its your preference.......
All I have to say is, "Gorilla Glass SUX!!!" I have managed to break mine 2x in 8 weeks one of which I got to replace lcd and screen... js
just put on a tempered glass lol
I dropped my note 3 a while ago. Got a nice crack on it. Immediately went out paid 25 for iloome tempered glass the thick one.
No issues with cases or anything. No scratches whatsoever on it and its easier to clean. Just wipe with a shirt or napkin and all the smudges and stuff are gone.
I havent dropped it or anything to see how good the tempered glass works but heck for 25 bux beats the crap I went through to get a replacement phone.
Guys! I'm very Sorry to note that my phone have a lot of scratches in the screen... I think it is caused by nails but my last phone (lg 2x) with gorilla glass 2 havent any scratch... Now I bought a screen protector... And you?
And me.
Same here. Gorilla Glass 3 suckzz... I applied screenguard as my screen was prone to scratches.
Me too, it's sad because first weak and i get a scratch, but my nexus 7 2012 have no scrath at all and i bought it 1 year ago.
No scratches here, and I have never used a screen protector
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no protector here and no scratches either
Wenzo2 said:
Guys! I'm very Sorry to note that my phone have a lot of scratches in the screen... I think it is caused by nails but my last phone (lg 2x) with gorilla glass 2 havent any scratch... Now I bought a screen protector... And you?
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I never used screen protector.
I learned it the hard way on my HTC one X (gorilla glass 2). Never wipe your screen with your cloth. It will contain sand grains and that scratches any glass surface.
On my nexus5, I use glasses wipe, and its still in perfect condition.
Hope this helps.
I've had plenty of phones with Gorilla Glass and ALL of them got scratched if used without a screen protector... people need to understand that Gorilla Glass is only scratch-resistant, not scratch-proof. If you don't want scratches, use a screen protector, no matter what.
or take care of ur phone
Gorilla glass is scratch resistant until we see some sapphire glass covers with 9h-10h they will be theoretically scratch proof seeing I tried to scratch the iPhone 5 sapphire lens cover and nothing .
Buy some tempered glass on eBay I Bought one for 5$ its good overall
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Mine has those microscratches, which apparently are in the oleophobic layer. Tough, but I can live with them. If it get's any worse I might apply a (glass) screenprotector, but I really prefer naked.
Yeah it's bad. Either they used really cheap GG3, or just used a cheap oleophobic coating. Good thing I have tmo so I can just get another phone when it gets really bad...Thanks jump!
SO many minerals can scratch gorilla glass. It stops stuff like keys from scratching the glass, but get a piece of sand 0.5mm big in your pocket, and your screen is toast
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Mine has those microscratches, which apparently are in the oleophobic layer. Tough, but I can live with them. If it get's any worse I might apply a (glass) screenprotector, but I really prefer naked.
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I got rid of some of my scratches that are on the anti-fingerprint layer however the deeper one I could not fix
fixed it with this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Proteger-Sm...t=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item2335b86414
I think the glass screen protectors are the way to go. For $15-$25 you just don't have to worry about it and it's a little extra protection if dropped. Plus it feels naked
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Aenima462 said:
SO many minerals can scratch gorilla glass. It stops stuff like keys from scratching the glass, but get a piece of sand 0.5mm big in your pocket, and your screen is toast
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This ^^^
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It sounds stupid, but I always blow on my screen after it's been in my pocket for a while to get any micro particles off of it. Like somebody else said, all it takes is a single grain of sand combined with a wipe of a cloth or a swipe of a finger to wreak havoc. If I see stubborn particles on my screen, will always dab them with my finger to get them off. I will never wipe them.
I have yet to get a scratch on my screen with the above methods.
never had a screen protector, no scratches. my phone is as flawless as when i first took it out of the box in early Nov.
No scratches on my N5, N4, N7, Xoom etc... is it because I don't put it in the same pocket as my keys and change? That's kind of like, common knowledge...
For all the people saying that a tiny piece of sand can scratch the screen, you're completely right, but some of us on here are comparing it to previous phones that we've owned that haven't scratched in the same environment.
I'm not really complaining too much because I stick my phone with everything else in my pocket (keys, cards, anything else really) and it's still in pretty great condition. (I've had it since it came out)