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I am looking for a smart watch for my mother. She's in her 70's and I want something to monitor her heart just in case.
*Note I understand no smartwatch is accurate or can it predict unforeseen health concerns. I understand the risks. She's not predisposed to heart conditions.
I've been doing research and it seems like either the Watch 3 or Active 2 are good choices because of the ECG function and also that it has active monitoring for heartrate and blood pressure. However, reading on the forums it seems its only recently that Korea health department has accepted the watch to be used as ECG monitors, and so we have to manually install apks to the watch. Does it require a Samsung phone to do it or can I use other phone brands?
Just to confirm, do the watches have watch screens that constantly display (active display) of heart rate and BP? I know ECG needs to be manually triggered for it to do its measurements.
I am not considering hybrid watches as I want a screen big enough for my mom to see numbers.
Please shoot me any other recommendations, but needs to have active display for your heart rate and BP. I have looked into the Omnron brand but its about $500 which is too expensive.
Thanks in advanced!
BPM is also on demand - I doubt any device monitors it constantly. Beside the handful of guidelines to take BP correctly (which is why it's not constantly measured), it simply doesn't need monitored constantly. That said, the BPM seems to be relatively accurate, but still requires monthly calibration.
Same thing for ECG. Honestly there are cheaper wearables that do a fine job of monitoring heart rate 24/7. In my experience, those devices can't read heart rate when in a-fib, so that's kind of an indirect indicator. I think the Apple Watch might claim to detect a-fib. The GW3 is not yet fully baked, so if you're seriously concerned about detecting a-fib look elsewhere.
I'm not a doctor and I'm not giving a rec or advice here. Bottom line is the GW3 is not the miracle device you're hoping for.
if you gotta ask , then get another one
Someone can correct me if I'm wrong: but none of the Samsung watches actively monitor heart rate other than beats-per-minute (and you can set the high and low rates). If the watch senses rates outside of your settings for a few minutes while not exercising, it's supposed to alert the user. No Afib or other alerts, as I believe an iWatch does. As noted above, the ECG and BP are on demand. There are watch faces that can show active heartrate
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There are watch faces that can show active heartrate
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I can't speak to that, or how often it updates. I know on Android Wear in dim mode the heart rate updates, at most, once per hour. GW3 does do active heart rate monitoring, but not sure if, or how often, it would update in dim mode.
Best to look at a Fitbit. They display an active heart rate that updates fairly frequently. New Fitbits may also have active a-fib monitoring.
That said, GW3 is the only watch I'm aware of that has fall detection. Combined with a cellular plan that could be a big winner for the elderly crowd. I haven't used it, but I believe the GW3 will call or message emergency contacts if you don't cancel it within 1 minute of a fall detected. GW3 might also have a heart rate alarm that goes off if your heart rate goes above a certain threshold (which is probably what you really want).
As far as heart rate trends, it takes a few clicks in the Samsung Health app but GW3 will show you the high and low heart rate by hour....another click and it will show you the average as well as all the readings for that hour. Not sure the highs and lows are super accurate - maybe only +/- 5-10 beats. My suspicion is that is because it calculates too fast (i.e. only counts for 3-5 seconds, and so that half-beat is the source of variance).
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BPM is also on demand - I doubt any device monitors it constantly. Beside the handful of guidelines to take BP correctly (which is why it's not constantly measured), it simply doesn't need monitored constantly. That said, the BPM seems to be relatively accurate, but still requires monthly calibration.
Same thing for ECG. Honestly there are cheaper wearables that do a fine job of monitoring heart rate 24/7. In my experience, those devices can't read heart rate when in a-fib, so that's kind of an indirect indicator. I think the Apple Watch might claim to detect a-fib. The GW3 is not yet fully baked, so if you're seriously concerned about detecting a-fib look elsewhere.
I'm not a doctor and I'm not giving a rec or advice here. Bottom line is the GW3 is not the miracle device you're hoping for.
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The ECG function should be enough to detect arrhythmia. Don't need A-fib. It just seems like a hassle to install, but I need confirmation that a non-samsung phone can install the ECG function.
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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong: but none of the Samsung watches actively monitor heart rate other than beats-per-minute (and you can set the high and low rates). If the watch senses rates outside of your settings for a few minutes while not exercising, it's supposed to alert the user. No Afib or other alerts, as I believe an iWatch does. As noted above, the ECG and BP are on demand. There are watch faces that can show active heartrate
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I didn't know iwatch does that. I know for a fact that they don't constantly monitor heart rate, but they measure in intervals. That's all I want, but I need to make sure that there's a watch face that can display BP or heart rate on the front without going into the settings.
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I can't speak to that, or how often it updates. I know on Android Wear in dim mode the heart rate updates, at most, once per hour. GW3 does do active heart rate monitoring, but not sure if, or how often, it would update in dim mode.
Best to look at a Fitbit. They display an active heart rate that updates fairly frequently. New Fitbits may also have active a-fib monitoring.
That said, GW3 is the only watch I'm aware of that has fall detection. Combined with a cellular plan that could be a big winner for the elderly crowd. I haven't used it, but I believe the GW3 will call or message emergency contacts if you don't cancel it within 1 minute of a fall detected. GW3 might also have a heart rate alarm that goes off if your heart rate goes above a certain threshold (which is probably what you really want).
As far as heart rate trends, it takes a few clicks in the Samsung Health app but GW3 will show you the high and low heart rate by hour....another click and it will show you the average as well as all the readings for that hour. Not sure the highs and lows are super accurate - maybe only +/- 5-10 beats. My suspicion is that is because it calculates too fast (i.e. only counts for 3-5 seconds, and so that half-beat is the source of variance).
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which fitbit do you recommend? I was looking at their bands, but I don't think they all have ECG function?
Thanks for the replies. Please give me suggestions of what other smartwatches I can consider.
Hi,
I'm sorry for being a bit off topic but how did you manage to install bp/ecg with nonSamsung phone? I've tried some tpks, signed them and tried sdb install but I always get -1 error...
Regards.
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which fitbit do you recommend? I was looking at their bands, but I don't think they all have ECG function?.
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I don't really know much about Fitbit. We got my dad one several years ago that also pairs with a phone to show the heart rate history. Most [all?] smartwatches update minimal things on the watchface in dim mode in order to save battery.
You can buy a good Omron BPM/ECG monitor for $180. No watch is going to actively measure and display BPM or ECG.
I don't think you will find a watch that does everything you want, so you'll probably have to accomplish that with multiple devices.
As far as I remember gw3 fall detection only works in workouts. I couldn't prove that yet though...
Well this watch has a lot of potential for a new owner ?
Deviatorz said:
The ECG function should be enough to detect arrhythmia. Don't need A-fib. It just seems like a hassle to install, but I need confirmation that a non-samsung phone can install the ECG function.
I didn't know iwatch does that. I know for a fact that they don't constantly monitor heart rate, but they measure in intervals. That's all I want, but I need to make sure that there's a watch face that can display BP or heart rate on the front without going into the settings.
which fitbit do you recommend? I was looking at their bands, but I don't think they all have ECG function?
Thanks for the replies. Please give me suggestions of what other smartwatches I can consider.
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All the ECG function does on the GW3 is detect Afib. You also need to touch the watch button with the finger from your hand to use the ECG function, so it can't continuously monitor you.
I only have a Samsung phone so I can't advise on how it works with non-Samsung Android phones.
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I was checking out the Fit and Gear 2 in BB today and the exercise tracking/coaching apps seemed to only be set up for various activities that involve movement such as jogging, hiking, and biking. I was hoping to use it to track gym workouts (whether weightlifting or aerobics workouts), but there didn't seem to be a "general" exercise setting that simply tracked heart rate and let you know if you were above or below a target. Did I miss a mode somewhere?
I suppose that I could put it in one of the "running" or "biking" modes and just let it believe that I was actually going somewhere, but a review of the fit mentioned that it won't even start a session in biking mode if it can't get a GPS lock. I'm guessing that the running mode might get bored and cancel out if it didn't detect pedometer inputs.
Has anyone tried using it for simple general-purpose heart rate monitoring and tracking?
I've always found myself explaining to people about how great the Pebble 2 is which many people never really knew about because it's not one of the more expensive and prestigious brands like an Apple Watch. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Tech Junkie and can afford whatever watch I want, but I'm also not one looking to pay a higher price just to wear something to impress people - I want good functionality, practicality and value. Nothing could match my Pebble 2. When I told people I only need to charge it once every 5-7 days, they are flabbergasted. Heart Rate Monitor? Check. HUGE selection of custom 3rd party apps. Check. Design your own custom watch face with dynamic stats (like temp, phone signal strength, etc.)? Check. Waterproof to the point you can swim with it on? Check.
All that, under $150? Check.
Now, my eyes have grown old and I can barely read the text messages that come through as it is a pretty small face. I don't NEED color - I prefer long battery life. So what's out there (I'm an Android Phone User) that people would say is the closest replacement that has a bigger screen? Maybe I just keep wearing my Pebble and wear trifocals all the time - no thanks.
My MUST haves are:
- Long battery life (no more than 2 charges per week are necessary)
- Waterproof (can swim in it)
- Heart Rate Monitor
- Large screen, but I'm not an NFL player so not too gigantic
Nice to haves but not MUSTS:
- SOME degree of customization (some 3rd party apps, custom watch screen design, etc.)
- Built in GPS (I really don't need this - I'm not a runner and my phone is always with me, so would rather avoid paying extra for it, but if I have to have it to get other stuff I must have then so be it.)
All I really need the watch to do is: tell me the date and time, show my text messages and notifications (with setting to increase default text size), track my fitness activities, and don't bug me about charging it every 1-2 days.
Only Garmin Watch
Amazfit bip, Stratos, pace
All Amazfit (bip Stratos....) have almost 0 connected feature, just basic notification a Weather wich works only sometime and nothing else. 0 connected app, so not really smartwatch, maybe just a poor tracker
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All Amazfit (bip Stratos....) have almost 0 connected feature, just basic notification a Weather wich works only sometime and nothing else. 0 connected app, so not really smartwatch, maybe just a poor tracker
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Can you give some examples of "connected features" you think that most users would find extremely useful in their daily lives? I've found with many devices, a lot of bells and whistles are just that, bells and whistles to brag about having and when you look at your actual use of the device, you find you really don't use those features.
For example, on my Pebble 2, I can reply to text messages both using canned text responses or voice transcription by talking into the watch. I've had the watch for like 3 years and I've used the text reply maybe two or three times and the voice transcription once. When I used it, I thought, "that was sort of cool." But then why didn't I ever use it again? Because it wasn't THAT useful considering 99% of the time I have my phone sitting next to me or in my pants or jacket pocket and talking to my watch I look like a complete DORK. I can just easily type the reply on my phone. The notification is what's important as sometimes I'm in another room, or have it in my jacket in a place I can't hear the notification or feel the vibration.
So I'm still quite interested in what "connected features" a Bip doesn't come with that are so useful?
In my pebble I add item to my shopping list every day with WunderVoice, I read my List on my pebble with WunderPebble : shopping, to do,........, I read my Google Task, I look every time at the moon location, I take quick note and view also memo quickly, I look at my next event calendar, I mark read my mail notification, I can select snooze 5,10, 30min or dismiss my event calendar, I use multiple timers for 25min, 30min, 35min, 40min to look at my grilled meat, I look my phone battery, I can set my phone to vibe or mute with my pebble , I start some task with tasker, I use multi counter to count different things.....
All this can be done with few click in 10s, in this time I have not the time to put my phone out my pocket
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In my pebble I add item to my shopping list every day with WunderVoice, I read my List on my pebble with WunderPebble : shopping, to do,........, I read my Google Task, I look every time at the moon location, I take quick note and view also memo quickly, I look at my next event calendar, I mark read my mail notification, I can select snooze 5,10, 30min or dismiss my event calendar, I use multiple timers for 25min, 30min, 35min, 40min to look at my grilled meat, I look my phone battery, I can set my phone to vibe or mute with my pebble , I start some task with tasker, I use multi counter to count different things.....
All this can be done with few click in 10s, in this time I have not the time to put my phone out my pocket
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With most all of that, shopping list, tasks, moon location, notes - can you explain what *specific benefits* there are to using your watch instead of your phone to input information (via keyboard or voice) and to read lists of information (considering the phone has a much bigger screen)? Why is using the watch so much better to do those things?
Easier and quicker
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All Amazfit (bip Stratos....) have almost 0 connected feature, just basic notification a Weather wich works only sometime and nothing else. 0 connected app, so not really smartwatch, maybe just a poor tracker
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Easier and quicker
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Man, you must be beside yourself trying to figure out what to do with all that spare time the watch creates being so much quicker?
I just switched back from an Amazfit Pace to my Pebble 2 SE. Notifications just don't work reliably on the Amazfit, and all the fitness stuff is too much for me. I just want a geeky watch with working notifications. That's a Pebble 2 SE
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I just switched back from an Amazfit Pace to my Pebble 2 SE. Notifications just don't work reliably on the Amazfit, and all the fitness stuff is too much for me. I just want a geeky watch with working notifications. That's a Pebble 2 SE
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I've also returned my pace due to bad battery life and notification reliability. I'm using a BIP and the notifications are there in real time(using gadgetbridge like before with PTS) and it gives me a minimum of 4 WEEKS of battery life :highfive:
No single freeze or glitch since months, absolutely reliable for that price! Custom watchfaces easily made.
My 2nd Pebble 2 HR just died & I've been shopping to replace it, but havent found anything that does everything I need it to, or that my Pebble used to. I had upgraded to Rebble prior to their deaths, paid for voice and weather since Rebble was up. I had found some good sites to investigate: Smartwatch Series website lets you look at detailed valuations of specs and comparisons of many smartwatches.
Battery is one of my biggest anxieties, but glowing screens or timeouts also was a concern. I tried the Samsung Gear Sport, then the Samsung Galaxy Active 2, and although they had many great features and 2+ days of use between charges (Active 2 only) with comparable use-time to my pebble, the screen glowed if on all the time, and when I went swimming, the screen face would change unless I locked it before entering the water.
I settled with a compromise... I was able to get a new PowerWatch 2 Luxe edition (usually $699) for $400. Still, way to expensive, but, I get messages (no reply), health basics, always on LCD screen (no glow) with back-lit ability, Heat Rate and GPS, and NO CHARGING NEEDED. EVER. Solar and thermoelectric engine (backup wireless charging dock included just in case) keep it charged always. I can't do voice, can't customize my watch face, can't load apps (stopwatch and timer are there), and no weather.
dumbquestion said:
My 2nd Pebble 2 HR just died & I've been shopping to replace it, but havent found anything that does everything I need it to, or that my Pebble used to. I had upgraded to Rebble prior to their deaths, paid for voice and weather since Rebble was up. I had found some good sites to investigate: Smartwatch Series website lets you look at detailed valuations of specs and comparisons of many smartwatches.
Battery is one of my biggest anxieties, but glowing screens or timeouts also was a concern. I tried the Samsung Gear Sport, then the Samsung Galaxy Active 2, and although they had many great features and 2+ days of use between charges (Active 2 only) with comparable use-time to my pebble, the screen glowed if on all the time, and when I went swimming, the screen face would change unless I locked it before entering the water.
I settled with a compromise... I was able to get a new PowerWatch 2 Luxe edition (usually $699) for $400. Still, way to expensive, but, I get messages (no reply), health basics, always on LCD screen (no glow) with back-lit ability, Heat Rate and GPS, and NO CHARGING NEEDED. EVER. Solar and thermoelectric engine (backup wireless charging dock included just in case) keep it charged always. I can't do voice, can't customize my watch face, can't load apps (stopwatch and timer are there), and no weather.
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Interesting charging design maybe something for the future watches and prices will drop hopefully...
Why not just buy a brand new Pebble 2 on Ebay for low $100 range? You could by two of them, one for future, and save money while we all wait for someone to actually design a good watch for a good price, like the Pebble 2. The only thing lacking on the Pebble 2 is that it's not designer/fancy looking. Otherwise it is still by far the best bang for the buck - battery lasting nearly a week! Lots of apps and customizations. Puts these higher priced watches to shame in the flexibility of the functionality and battery life. But it's no status symbol that people want for their watch, unless you consider being an intelligent buyer a status symbol. LOL.
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Why not just buy a brand new Pebble 2 on Ebay for low $100 range? You could by two of them, one for future, and save money while we all wait for someone to actually design a good watch for a good price, like the Pebble 2. The only thing lacking on the Pebble 2 is that it's not designer/fancy looking. Otherwise it is still by far the best bang for the buck - battery lasting nearly a week! Lots of apps and customizations. Puts these higher priced watches to shame in the flexibility of the functionality and battery life. But it's no status symbol that people want for their watch, unless you consider being an intelligent buyer a status symbol. LOL.
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The problem when buying those pebbles: the battery is several years old and might not have a good capacity.
Actually I'm testing a Honor Magic Watch 2 and it's very good, actually one week usage with GPS and lots of calls and down to 49%:good:
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The problem when buying those pebbles: the battery is several years old and might not have a good capacity.
Actually I'm testing a Honor Magic Watch 2 and it's very good, actually one week usage with GPS and lots of calls and down to 49%:good:
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I read a review and it sounds promising if you can live without the ability to download apps.
My main question would be, on my Pebble, I can get notifications from all the apps on my phone and select which ones I want to get and which ones I don't want to get, so I'm not just limited to SMS and Email notifications. Can this watch do that, so for instance if the Amazon app displays a notification about a shipment on my phone, will it show on the watch?
Also wondering if a firmware upate fixed this...
"Talking of notifications, we found these to be a little buggy. Most of the time phone notifications came through to the device without issue, but now and then they didn’t come through until some time after they should have, and we also found some notifications came through to the watch multiple times, though we never worked out why."
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I read a review and it sounds promising if you can live without the ability to download apps.
My main question would be, on my Pebble, I can get notifications from all the apps on my phone and select which ones I want to get and which ones I don't want to get, so I'm not just limited to SMS and Email notifications. Can this watch do that, so for instance if the Amazon app displays a notification about a shipment on my phone, will it show on the watch?
Also wondering if a firmware upate fixed this...
"Talking of notifications, we found these to be a little buggy. Most of the time phone notifications came through to the device without issue, but now and then they didn’t come through until some time after they should have, and we also found some notifications came through to the watch multiple times, though we never worked out why."
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Everything is working so far. Your quote to my post for example, was notified by fair mail which I selected and shown then on the watch, see pics As long as a notification pop-up is shown on the status bar it will work, but one app did not work it's delta.chat. Don't know why, still investigating. Maybe a app or health issue
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Everything is working so far. Your quote to my post for example, was notified by fair mail which I selected and shown then on the watch, see pics As long as a notification pop-up is shown on the status bar it will work, but one app did not work it's delta.chat. Don't know why, still investigating. Maybe a app or health issue
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I'm guessing you can't prevent notifications from certain apps on only the watch?
Did you consider the Amazfit GTS? They seem similar but the Amazfit I think is considerably cheaper.
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I'm guessing you can't prevent notifications from certain apps on only the watch?
Did you consider the Amazfit GTS? They seem similar but the Amazfit I think is considerably cheaper.
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You can select the notification what you want to be shown on the watch, see screenshot. Or do you want to have a notification only to be shown on the watch, but not on the phone?
I ordered both watches and the following are my personal pros and cons.
Amazfit GTS: 128€
-can't make calls
-no storage for music
-GPS not that accurate
-no SpO2
Honor Magic Watch 2: 146€
-round design(I wanted a round watch again)
I have the Huawei GT but find it boring as it's just read only
Can anyone give suggestions of the best smart watch to use with the p30 pro ??
I know there is an issue with Garmin
Am looking for Google pay or at the very least the opportunity to reply back to messages from the watch
Ta muchly
Whats wrong with Garmin?
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Whats wrong with Garmin?
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I believe there is pairing issues
Remember somewhere in the past reading it
For a watch, I only need get info/notification whenever I need it. GT serves this purpose very well with its super long battery time!
If I need reply/interact, I would prefer by phone, not on the small watch screen.
Well so far the initial pairing and connection worked well with the Fenix 5, I hope it stays this way. Otherwise the Fenix 5 presents excellent battery life (up to 20 days if you don't record GPS activities) with an always-on passive lighted display (there is an optional background light with various options). And you can reply to messages with pre-setup texts. Don't know about google pay though.
best watch currently for android is galaxy smart watch why not give it a try.
I have the Skagen Falster 2. Previous to this I had the original Huawei watch. The Skagen is a brilliant little watch (yes is this actually I would say slightly on the small side on my big wrists I was drawn to the watch due to its looks initially and I wanted the extra features of GPS but mainly Android pay.
The screen is excellent quality and a OLED. Black's are really dark plus better energy efficiency Vs the LCD on the Huawei.
Battery life is good for an android wear watch. You really have to charge this every night so you need a charger next to your bed. Take it off and charge it. I use the screen as always on and by bedtime I have had 40% battery remaining (2am bed time). Slim chance of getting 2 days use if you turned the watch off overnight.
The Skagen feels more responsive compared to the Huawei but the processors are largely the same. There is no speaker in the Skagen (some of the watches you can take calls). However, I turned this off when the novelty wore off when I had the Huawei watch. Speaker quality is poor / your phone is normally in hands distance anyway.
I would recommend the Skagen Falster 2.... If you like the look of the watch I don't think you will be disappointed.
Try Huawei Watch 2. It has android pay, Wear OS and works well with P30 Pro. For me it's a better option than Huawei Watch GT (make and receive calls, many apps from play store, etc)
Hey, got a question for those that exercise, or work out using their Galaxy Watch 3. Specifically, walking, but also running, treadmills,etc.
Do you see a dropping of your heart rate data at random times during your activity? Heart rate data appears perfect during the day, but will drop randomly during a walk, or treadmill activity.* This has happened both times I've tried the activities, I've only had the watch 3 days.
Anyone found a fix?
Can't speak for running, but for brisk walking the heart rate monitoring has been very good and consistent for me (within 1-2 of a chest strap monitor average after an hour).
It needs to be snug, not tight (it should not be able to slide around on your wrist in any direction). And should be above the orbital bone on your wrist.
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Hey, got a question for those that exercise, or work out using their Galaxy Watch 3. Specifically, walking, but also running, treadmills,etc.
Do you see a dropping of your heart rate data at random times during your activity? Heart rate data appears perfect during the day, but will drop randomly during a walk, or treadmill activity.* This has happened both times I've tried the activities, I've only had the watch 3 days.
Anyone found a fix?
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I have the same problem when in cycling mode :/ At first i thought it was related to tightness of the strap or placement, but no matter how tight or loose it is, it drops, and seems to come back by random seconds or minutes after i notice it has gone.... Seems to only be in exercise mode, as i've never caught it doing it otherwise (i have continuous monitoring enabled)
In any case, the heart sensor really stops working at times during physical activities, especially running. And even at times during the day in a normal situation it stops working.
In any case I did not have this kind of problem with my Galaxy watch active 2.
I hope there will be an update soon.
To elaborate: This happened again for me today, and i took off the watch and could see the green sensor light still going.... tried to clean it and put it back on, but no success.... after ~10 minutes more on my bike, it "magically" started registering HR again.... Very weird.... Hope it is SW and not HW related though
At times I have the same problem with the heart sensor. In any case, it's very frustrating for a watch that calls itself sports / Fitness.
Well i found out that if i move the watch on my wrist during ECG, it ends with "Atrial fibrillation" and the curve looks like garbage
If i have the watch tight on the wrist, it ends sinusal and regular, clean...
So i'd guess that the drops might come from the watch not being secured enough on the wrist. Just tighten it very well before walk/run.
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Well i found out that if i move the watch on my wrist during ECG, it ends with "Atrial fibrillation" and the curve looks like garbage
If i have the watch tight on the wrist, it ends sinusal and regular, clean...
So i'd guess that the drops might come from the watch not being secured enough on the wrist. Just tighten it very well before walk/run.
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That was my first thought as well. But it behaves the same way when tightened everywhere from "comfortably loose" to "i think i cut off blood circulation to my hand" :/
early firmware issues perhaps? did you reboot the watch (pressing the bottom button until you see "rebooting" on the display)?
if you experienced better results from older galaxy watches then give the firmware some time to mature.
i use my elliptical daily and whilst i don't like to have a watch on my arm , i left it on to test the auto exercise feature. it picked up i was using an elliptical and the stats/vitals all looked in line with what i expected -- so no dropouts in hr. ive the lte version.
If it's not firmware (and probably not - mine was great out of the box), then it's a hardware issue (wasn't there a clear film on the back of the watch - did you remove that?).
I have not tested running, but brisk walking, riding an exercise bike, and sleeping and all other times of the day the heart rate is spot on for me. It definitely doesn't "drop" and stop reading. If anything, it would just spit out an inaccurate reading for a bit during strenuous exercise.
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That was my first thought as well. But it behaves the same way when tightened everywhere from "comfortably loose" to "i think i cut off blood circulation to my hand" :/
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hi exactly the same i tightened the strap of the watch to have traces of it. And always inconsistencies with the heart sensor while running. In any case looking forward to having the next update.
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early firmware issues perhaps? did you reboot the watch (pressing the bottom button until you see "rebooting" on the display)?
if you experienced better results from older galaxy watches then give the firmware some time to mature.
i use my elliptical daily and whilst i don't like to have a watch on my arm , i left it on to test the auto exercise feature. it picked up i was using an elliptical and the stats/vitals all looked in line with what i expected -- so no dropouts in hr. ive the lte version.
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How long did you have it track your workout? It seems the problem usually first starts after x minutes, and from there on it seems (to me) completely random when it starts working again (during the workout). I think i will try to see if i can spot it doing it, stop the workout mode, and see if it does HR instantly in "non-workout-mode"... I encourage others to try this too to gather some data.
*edit*: Reboot have been tried to no effect right before workout, but not during (which also kinda defeats the point), and there is no film on the watch.
Looking around, i found this thead about a similar problem one of the older watches: https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Watch/Galaxy-watch-heart-rate-sensor/td-p/389847/page/7
Going to try out some of the things: 1st: turning off diagnostics. Will keep you in the loop. *edit*: Nope didn't work.
Next: Turning off always on NR monitoring. *edit*: Nope!
Third: Turning off sensor permits for power saving. *edit*: Nope, also didn't work.
Epedemic said:
How long did you have it track your workout? It seems the problem usually first starts after x minutes, and from there on it seems (to me) completely random when it starts working again (during the workout). I think i will try to see if i can spot it doing it, stop the workout mode, and see if it does HR instantly in "non-workout-mode"... I encourage others to try this too to gather some data.
*edit*: Reboot have been tried to no effect right before workout, but not during (which also kinda defeats the point), and there is no film on the watch.
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I run errands and I always have the problems. The heart rate sensor stops at times .... And when it resumes it completely wrong. With very random measurements.
Beretta143 said:
I run errands and I always have the problems. The heart rate sensor stops at times .... And when it resumes it completely wrong. With very random measurements.
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My readings seems fine, once it, randomly, resumes. (Eg 140-160 when biking at a fast but not furious (hehe) pace)
Compared to the apple watch it's very finicky. I have to tighten the watch band ridiculously in order to get HR and ECG.
I think the Apple watch is a better overall product.
Update incoming: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R855F/TGY/doc.html Hope this is what we're looking for.... (Not out in NEE region yet though)
Epedemic said:
Update incoming: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-R855F/TGY/doc.html Hope this is what we're looking for.... (Not out in NEE region yet though)
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Very good news.
I have mild sleep apnea and was thinking of buying the galaxy watch 3 (instead of the cheaper active 2) because it has an oxygen sensor. Is this a reliable way to test varying treatments for sleep apnea? Worth it?
I've been on a CPAP for almost 2 years. I didn't think it was possible to sleep through the ENTIRE night!
What triggered me to ask the doctor, was I was (at the time) wearing a Gear 3 frontier to sleep and noticed my sleep SUCKED! But my main concern was I noticed
my heart rate would jump into the 90's WHILE SLEEPING. Showing this to my doctor, they said do you snore? I said, well, I live alone, but family members said
I do. After the take home sleep study, I had around 14-20 events per hour.
Now, I'm down to 1 or less, and my heart rate at night, stays pretty much in the mid to low 50's.
I have a Galaxy 3 and opted to get an Oura ring in addition (expensive solution). Just seemed to provide more specific sleep metrics. However, at this particular point in time, I'd hang on for the upcoming Galaxy Watch 4 as it may have better sensors.
Thanks for replies.
Are there any other watches by any other brands that are known for having a good oxygen sensor?
For most people, the GW3 SpO2 sensor is poor, even if it did monitor while you slept (which it doesn't). Not sure the GW4 sensor will be different or that it will work any better.
Sleep as Android now supports a few watches (Tic Watch 3, Garmin, not sure what else). To me, this is app better than any other tracker out there, and I find it very similar to the Oura ring (which doesn't track SpO2).
I tried the O2 Ring / Wellue Ring, and it has an alarm that alerts you if it falls below 90. But for me I found it would lose signal and then record a false event. I got the Smart/Happy ring recommend by Sleep as Android, and I think it works very well, but it's another watch with a finger tip sensor attachment for readings.
I don't know that any true wrist based monitor is going to give you reliable readings. A ring is your best bet over a fingertip sensor. I'm guessing Oura will have it in their next version, in a year or two. Rumors are Fitbit (now owned by Google) is coming out with a ring with an SpO2 sensor.
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I have a Galaxy 3 and opted to get an Oura ring in addition (expensive solution). Just seemed to provide more specific sleep metrics.
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That's unfortunate, because I find Sleep As Android to give comparable stats as Oura using the GW3 watch sensor.
Agree Sammie sleep monitoring has limited metrics, and doesn't seem very accurate. You do get temperature and HRV with Oura, which is nice. Not sure why Sleep as Android and GW3 don't report HRV.
GW4 is supposed to have biometrics (like body fat%), which is nice if you don't already have a smart scale. Really would have liked to see a temperature sensor instead.
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That's unfortunate, because I find Sleep As Android to give comparable stats as Oura using the GW3 watch sensor.
Agree Sammie sleep monitoring has limited metrics, and doesn't seem very accurate. You do get temperature and HRV with Oura, which is nice. Not sure why Sleep as Android and GW3 don't report HRV.
GW4 is supposed to have biometrics (like body fat%), which is nice if you don't already have a smart scale. Really would have liked to see a temperature sensor instead.
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i have a gw3 and unfortunately the sleep as android app doesn't work with it. I tested watch 4 that the sleep app worked but spo2 data is not possible.. because samsung blocks. I would love to use the sleep as android app on gw3.
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i have a gw3 and unfortunately the sleep as android app doesn't work with it. I tested watch 4 that the sleep app worked but spo2 data is not possible.. because samsung blocks. I would love to use the sleep as android app on gw3.
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GW3 works with Sleep As Android (you have to install a companion app from Tizen store on the watch), but the SpO2 doesn't. They may eventually get SpO2 with GW4, and are struggling to support TicWatch for SpO2. I've been using the Happy Electronics fingertip SpO2 Sleep as Android recommends, and it works great but is pretty cumbersome.
Anyway, I just ordered the new Oura Ring 3, which will be supporting SpO2 with a software update some time in 2022. It's readings SHOULD be better than wrist-based options. Assuming it works as advertised, I'll forego upgrading my GW3.