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Anyone else notice their stock camera taking more blueish photos in various lighting?
I primarily use Camera 360, and that seems to compensate for the blue stock camera tint?
But, I must say the stock camera app is quite nice.
I am not seeing that on my camera, but I have only snapped a couple of pics in bright light and have not checked on the computer.
Are you sure your camera is not set to "Blue Tint"? On the bottom of the camera is a bar you can slide to open, the second item has options for different camera modes.
yes, I did notice this. Seems to depend on the lighting.
I've noticed a blue tint with the flash on in lower light indoor pictures. I think the camera will take some adjustments to work well. Outside it took pictures just fine. I had to have the flash off the for almost all indoor pictures.
It's definitely blue-ish/whited out with the flash and I use Vignette.
Hopefully a software update will help correct this a little bit.
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It's definitely blue-ish/whited out with the flash and I use Vignette.
Hopefully a software update will help correct this a little bit.
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Noticed this right away as well, mainly in fluorescent light. This is definitely correctable via software and from what I understand is a known issue on a very long list of known issues for this device.
Another thing I thought of - when a friend of mine got the OG Droid back in the day when it came out, I was very impressed with the camera and camcorder.
With the DX2 and D3 I'm a bit disappointed, it's almost like they took a step back. I feel like the OG Droid is better at video and photos than my Xoom as well.
Does anyone else feel like their cameras have gotten a little worse over time? I remember the Razr had some of the sharpest 1.3 MP photos (as well as Samsung and of course Nokia has always kicked ass in the photo department).
Wow, 1.3 MP... that's like the standard for a lot of front facing cameras that aren't VGA. Oh, and the 2 MP FF camera on the Xoom is grainy as **** in artificial lighting.
Other than the camera and battery issues, I LOOOOVEEE this D3. I miss a keyboard too much. And I feel like this screen is less grainy than the DX2 (but from what I gather the screen resolution would look denser on a smaller screen, right, since it's not spread out as much with the same pixels?).
I've just been running some tests on my Z1 camera.
I noticed that it's virtually unable to produce straight lines.
I've attached a picture of my PC's monitor (in admittedly difficult light) and as you can see the normally straight lines of the bezel and windows all bulge.
Does anyone else have that issue? Is my camera a duff one?
I'm extremely hesitant to send it in to Sony for repair. Currently they have my old Xperia Z for repairs, to replace the camera module that developed black spots. It's been three weeks and still waiting for it to come back (UK repair centre).
It's those kind of issues that make choosing a Sony extremely frustrating, as much as I want to love the brand.
It's.from the lens of the camera. If someone else's camera doesn't show that aberation you should go to Sony. Only way to get it right is post processing every picture.
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For comparison I took some shots with an old 350D, with kit objective (18-55mm).
One shot with at 18mm, one at 55mm, one with my Z1 and one with an old Xperia Pro.
350D:
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Xperia Pro:
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Exry said:
For comparison I took some shots with an old 350D, with kit objective (18-55mm).
One shot with at 18mm, one at 55mm, one with my Z1 and one with an old Xperia Pro.
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Your Z1 is also quite bumpy, not perhaps not as much as mine.
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Your Z1 is also quite bumpy, not perhaps not as much as mine.
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Although I don't know how much of distortion is acceptable, it's probably because of the very low focal length and wide angle? I'm no photographer but I expected it to bulge a bit.
yeah i mentioned this in the camera thread in the general section. every Z1 i've tested does this (10+ phones plus every image i've seen of a grid or line from the z1 on this forum). depending on the way the lense is mounted most deformation will normally appear towards the extreme top or bottom of an image.
ps. if you bought your phone from a uk network and are outside of your in store exchange period and wanted to get it repaired (not that i think there are any current z1's without this problem and therefore a lense that would be much better to be put into your phone) than send it through the network shop for a warranty repair and it will be repaired or replaced by anovo (all network shops use them) in around 5 working days.
That´s not unexpected.
If you make a wideangle lens this small there will be always quite a lot of distortion. Almost all cameras nowadays correct this distortions in the image-processing.
The problem is that the optical distortion changes with very close focus-distances and most software-corrections only adjust to the lenses focal-length (when having a zoom-lens), but not to the focus-distance, so the software-correction is wrong.
It seems that Sony does a combination of optically correcting the distortion in the lens, additionally to the software-corrections, which causes this very complex distortion, which quite strong pincushion-distortion in the center while still having some barrel-distortion at the edges of the image.
In distances 1m+ there is hardly any visible distortion left.
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That´s not unexpected.
If you make a wideangle lens this small there will be always quite a lot of distortion. Almost all cameras nowadays correct this distortions in the image-processing.
The problem is that the optical distortion changes with very close focus-distances and most software-corrections only adjust to the lenses focal-length (when having a zoom-lens), but not to the focus-distance, so the software-correction is wrong.
It seems that Sony does a combination of optically correcting the distortion in the lens, additionally to the software-corrections, which causes this very complex distortion, which quite strong pincushion-distortion in the center while still having some barrel-distortion at the edges of the image.
In distances 1m+ there is hardly any visible distortion left.
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That's very interesting and the most insightful reply on this topic in any thread yet, thanks. My only concern is that i have read a report of a picture of a horizon have both the barrel distortion and pincushion problems which is at some distance. I'll have to check for long distance distortion. If it's not there i'm happy.
Thanks for the replies!
On top of the above problem I also noticed a distinct out of focus area (top left corner in my case) in shots taken at a wide distance.
I can't say I every detected either of these problems on my old iPhone 5. Maybe Apple's camera is simply better and the algorithms even things out more.
I'm currently having the Z1 and the Galaxy Note 3 at home and try to decide which one to keep, and it's proving very difficult. Both phones have their distinct positive and negative sides.
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Thanks for the replies!
On top of the above problem I also noticed a distinct out of focus area (top left corner in my case) in shots taken at a wide distance.
I can't say I every detected either of these problems on my old iPhone 5. Maybe Apple's camera is simply better and the algorithms even things out more.
I'm currently having the Z1 and the Galaxy Note 3 at home and try to decide which one to keep, and it's proving very difficult. Both phones have their distinct positive and negative sides.
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the bottom right side of my pictures are blurred. gsmarena had a similar issue with their test unit.
Today I conducted some more tests with both Z1 and GN 3.
At 100 ISO the Z1 showed considerable noise and much less in focus than the GN3, in good light.
At first I thought that the Z1 camera complaints might be not so visible to the untrained eye and that the average user such as myself wouldn't notice anything amiss, but the differences in direct comparison are really striking.
There are many things I like about the Z1, and its design is far superior to the GN 3, but knowing that there are virtually no conditions under which the Z1 would be able to take good pictures is a deal break for me, so the Z1 will go up on eBay. Hopefully better luck in 6 months with the Z's next iteration.
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At 100 ISO the Z1 showed considerable noise and much less in focus than the GN3, in good light.
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I think Sonys decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was a good (although unexpecting when looking at their cameras which usually use quite heavy NR). Chroma-Noise is very well under control up to the highest sensitivities and the luminance-noise is very fine grained and not objectionable at all. Unfortunately thats not true for ISO 1600+, where NR gets so high everything becomes a blurry mess. Of course these sensitivities are hardly usable for 1/2,3"-Sensors, regardless of the strength of the NR
Finally you can always use some additional NR in PP, but you never can bring back detail that has already been destroyed by heavy processing.
Also contrast (at least in manual) mode is quite low (at least for a consumer-device), which leads to surprisingly good DR, unlike the blocked shadows (which also hide noise) you get on most phones (and most compact-cameras as well). Again increasing contrast in PP is not a problem, unlike the other way around.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
Of course there will be less in focus as well, a bigger sensor + larger aperture means less DOF and therefore less in focus.
This can also become a problem at close focus-ranges, because the focus-plane is in reality not flat, instead it is somewhat spherical shaped. At close focus-distances therefore soft corners can become a problem.
demoniality said:
My only concern is that i have read a report of a picture of a horizon have both the barrel distortion and pincushion problems which is at some distance. I'll have to check for long distance distortion. If it's not there i'm happy.
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I've taken pictures of a sea horizon...
They get the strange distortion too
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I think Sony's decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was good.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
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I'm completely agree
High detail is better than a very little bit of noise
I think the only thing I would like to see in next firmware is a stronger sharpness algorithm. XZ with Honami Camera driver produces sharper pictures (obviously they get more grain and pixelled than XZ1 when zooming in because of sensor, lens and mpx)
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I think Sonys decision not to kill all detail with heavy noise-reduction was a good (although unexpecting when looking at their cameras which usually use quite heavy NR). Chroma-Noise is very well under control up to the highest sensitivities and the luminance-noise is very fine grained and not objectionable at all. Unfortunately thats not true for ISO 1600+, where NR gets so high everything becomes a blurry mess. Of course these sensitivities are hardly usable for 1/2,3"-Sensors, regardless of the strength of the NR
Finally you can always use some additional NR in PP, but you never can bring back detail that has already been destroyed by heavy processing.
Also contrast (at least in manual) mode is quite low (at least for a consumer-device), which leads to surprisingly good DR, unlike the blocked shadows (which also hide noise) you get on most phones (and most compact-cameras as well). Again increasing contrast in PP is not a problem, unlike the other way around.
I just hope this won´t change with future Firmware-updates.
Of course there will be less in focus as well, a bigger sensor + larger aperture means less DOF and therefore less in focus.
This can also become a problem at close focus-ranges, because the focus-plane is in reality not flat, instead it is somewhat spherical shaped. At close focus-distances therefore soft corners can become a problem.
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An interesting and well informed reply, however, in my test shots we were not just talking about "a bit" of noise, but a considerable amount, and the picture was noticeably less sharp than the GN 3 picture I took, with its 13MP camera. So if there are any advantages to be had on the Sony, I can't see them. And while I theoretically could tinker with improving the pics in Photoshop I don't think I would have had the patience to do this with every little picture I take.
So, out of the box, the Samsung produces the better pictures, with less hassle for me, and I don't need to have specialist knowledge in photography or Photoshop in order to get a good result, and that's what tipped the scale for me.
hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
shawnhalu said:
hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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hi sorry but i cant understand what whitelines the OP is talking.
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.
shawnhalu said:
i upload a picture, can tell me if mine have any problem?
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Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.
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Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.
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haha i cant see the softness u stating. i try take afew more picture head on and let u see. thanks
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I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.
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actually i cant see the crooked line where is it?
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naujoks said:
I was talking about CROOKED lines, not white lines.
And yes, you have them too.
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*R2D2* said:
Look at the somewhat waved appearance of the tab bar.
But what worries me more in your picture is the softness on the right side, that is obvious even at this rather small image-size. It may be a result of not holding the camera parallel to the screen (the softer bottom definitely is), but if you always get a soft right side, your camera-lens might be misaligned.
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photo retake for u, can u help me have a look of the softness and the crooked line?
shawnhalu said:
photo retake for u, can u help me have a look of the softness and the crooked line?
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First picture again shows severe softness on the right side, just look how hard it is to read the text.
Corner-sharpness isn´t the greatest with this camera, which is to be expected considering the relatively large sensor with a relatively small lens, but this shouldn´t extend that far into the picture.
Your camera seams to be especially strange, as the corners are actually sharper, the small text of the clock in the bottom right corner for example is much easier to read then the text in the center right side, which is very unusual. Normally the corners are the softest, but as you use 16:9, which crops the extreme corners, there shouldn´t be much of a problem at all.
There is nothing to notice on the rest of the pictures.
I don´t really know what´s going on there, the strange sharpness-pattern could be a result of the rather unusual distortion and the correction for it, but then left and right side should be identical. A misaligned lens/sensor should show worse corners (top right corner is quite good as well).
If the camera had some image-stabilization I would say, that maybe the moving sensor/lens-element moved to an area of the lens which isn´t optically as good, but as this camera doesn´t have any stabilization this isn´t possible.
One guess would be that there is some dirt on one side of your lens, or the covering-glass, or maybe some scratches.
Another guess would be that the camera chose one of the multi-shot-modes. Sonys cameras usually are quite good discovering softer parts of the image and multiple instances of the same objects their multi-shot-modes, but of course the algorithm isn´t fool-proof, so their might be a chance that software combined a softer image in the final picture on the right side, while not using this soft image on the left side.
I don't know how it took me this long to realize this but when just zooming in a normal camera application the cameras never switches from the wide angle to the telephoto lens.... Obviously it happens when you use live focus mode but it never switches if you're not in that mode. So whenever i tap on that "x2" button its just giving me another digital zoom, just as with any of the previous phones before the Note 8. I guess its not a huge deal but I feel lied to. You can check for yourself, just cover the telephoto lens (the one on the left) and zoom in. I'm not sure if this is the case with the iPhones as well but i just thought this was a little weird. They bragged about actual 2x optical zoom but you can only use it when its this specialized portrait mode where focusing can be a pain...
I feel like Samsung just wanted to copy the iPhone feel with that zoom button.
Had anyone else noticed this? I feel like I'm the first one to mention this.
Are you already covering the lense before you Zoom? If so, that's why. The camera knows that it's covered, so it uses Digital on the Main. Also, the lighting condition needs to be optimal for the Telephoto lense. At least that what I heard around the Internet. :silly:
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I don't know how it took me this long to realize this but when just zooming in a normal camera application the cameras never switches from the wide angle to the telephoto lens.... Obviously it happens when you use live focus mode but it never switches if you're not in that mode. So whenever i tap on that "x2" button its just giving me another digital zoom, just as with any of the previous phones before the Note 8. I guess its not a huge deal but I feel lied to. You can check for yourself, just cover the telephoto lens (the one on the left) and zoom in. I'm not sure if this is the case with the iPhones as well but i just thought this was a little weird. They bragged about actual 2x optical zoom but you can only use it when its this specialized portrait mode where focusing can be a pain...
I feel like Samsung just wanted to copy the iPhone feel with that zoom button.
Had anyone else noticed this? I feel like I'm the first one to mention this.
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Open the camera.
Cover each camera until it picture doesn't appear.
Switch to 2X then do the same.
You will see it uses the two different camera. If you have it covered BEFORE the switch the software seems to adjust because the lens is covered like above mentions.
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https://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/09/23/iphone-7-plus-2x-optical-zoom-explained/
guess the cheezy zoom is a copy alright. same 'issues' or limitations as the iphone7s. the reviews of the iPhone 8's camera are not giving any real details apart that it's very good which is not helpfull and are prolly chit reviews payed by the company since their whole line of new old phones are a flop.
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Open the camera.
Cover each camera until it picture doesn't appear.
Switch to 2X then do the same.
You will see it uses the two different camera. If you have it covered BEFORE the switch the software seems to adjust because the lens is covered like above mentions.
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I don't understand.
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I don't understand.
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It works like intended but you can't block the lens before you switch. The software will see it covered and adjust use the same lens as before and digitally zoom.
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It works like intended but you can't block the lens before you switch. The software will see it covered and adjust use the same lens as before and digitally zoom.
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I saw many YouTube videos where people would say this or that camera is for zoom, so I would hold my finger over both and hit the 2x and it's always the same camera and seems the only reason for the 2nd camera is for the Live Focus.
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I saw many YouTube videos where people would say this or that camera is for zoom, so I would hold my finger over both and hit the 2x and it's always the same camera and seems the only reason for the 2nd camera is for the Live Focus.
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They are covering BEFORE they switch. The camera sees the lens is blocked and uses the same lens because the other is blocked.
Try it yourself
Camera 1 - inside lens (next to flash)
Camera 2 - Outside lens
Open camera
Cover Camera 1
Uncover camera 1
Switch to Camera 2
Cover camera 1
Then cover camera 2
You will see it works how it should. The software is smart enough if the camera two is not available it will digitally zoom using the first.
As far as covering camera 1 and it not switching to Camera 2 as camera 2 was never intended to be the main shooter so the software doesn't compensate.
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Tidbits said:
They are covering BEFORE they switch. The camera sees the lens is blocked and uses the same lens because the other is blocked.
Try it yourself
Camera 1 - inside lens (next to flash)
Camera 2 - Outside lens
Open camera
Cover Camera 1
Uncover camera 1
Switch to Camera 2
Cover camera 1
Then cover camera 2
You will see it works how it should. The software is smart enough if the camera two is not available it will digitally zoom using the first.
As far as covering camera 1 and it not switching to Camera 2 as camera 2 was never intended to be the main shooter so the software doesn't compensate.
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I will try and post a video later. Of how I noticed how it worked. You can't cover camera 2 before you switch to 2X or else it will use camera 1 and digitally zoom it to compensate.
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Tidbits said:
Camera 1 - inside lens (next to flash)
Camera 2 - Outside lens
Open camera
Cover Camera 1
Uncover camera 1
Switch to Camera 2
Cover camera 1
Then cover camera 2
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When you say Switch to camera 2, you mean move your finger from blocking camera 1 to 2? It seems like no matter what I do the camera will only do 2x zoom in the inside camera near the flash? I'm lost.
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It will also not switch to 2nd camera in low light, presumably because zoom lens is 2.7 and main cam is 1.7, letting in more than double the amount of light. Personally I hate automation (I can make better choices that suit me better) and would prefer full manual lens choice much better, but I see where is Samsung coming from: most user don't know much about photography, just care about end results, so lets camera decide which is best for given condition. We could probably fix this, if we had root.
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When you say Switch to camera 2, you mean move your finger from blocking camera 1 to 2? It seems like no matter what I do the camera will only do 2x zoom in the inside camera near the flash? I'm lost.
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When you press 2X it will switch to Camera 2. If you do it enough times sometimes you can see the software transfer too slow and you can see yourself cover camera 2 then all of a sudden you will see it switch to Camera 1 and be digitally zoomed.
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Tidbits said:
When you press 2X it will switch to Camera 2. If you do it enough times sometimes you can see the software transfer too slow and you can see yourself cover camera 2 then all of a sudden you will see it switch to Camera 1 and be digitally zoomed.
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Try doing this cover camera 2 the one farthest from the heart rate sensor.
Then tap the 2X a few times. Do it enough times it'll bug out and you will see not switch like it should when camera two is blocked. I will have a video up shortly.
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dilness said:
I don't know how it took me this long to realize this but when just zooming in a normal camera application the cameras never switches from the wide angle to the telephoto lens.... Obviously it happens when you use live focus mode but it never switches if you're not in that mode. So whenever i tap on that "x2" button its just giving me another digital zoom, just as with any of the previous phones before the Note 8. I guess its not a huge deal but I feel lied to. You can check for yourself, just cover the telephoto lens (the one on the left) and zoom in. I'm not sure if this is the case with the iPhones as well but i just thought this was a little weird. They bragged about actual 2x optical zoom but you can only use it when its this specialized portrait mode where focusing can be a pain...
I feel like Samsung just wanted to copy the iPhone feel with that zoom button.
Had anyone else noticed this? I feel like I'm the first one to mention this.
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I did check for myself. Opened the camera app, pointed the camera at a well-lit scene (both lenses uncovered). Tapped the x2 icon and covered the main/wide lens and the viewfinder still shows the uncovered view.
I don't appreciate being lied to by the OP.
harveydent said:
I don't appreciate being lied to by the OP.
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Don't be so hard on OP. Maybe he didn't know better? He's just trying to help. No need to go assuming he's a liar.
Anyways I did the experiment too and the 2nd camera is definitely working in 2x zoom mode. I can even see the switch happening back and forth if I cover/uncover the camera.
Yeah coming from note 5... It's underwhelming to say the least.
It's weird I'm with T-Mobile... And a switch isn't happening for me except with live focus. With all zooms on regular mode it's always the camera closest to the heart sensor that displays the image ... And I've switched uncovered in a well lit area and even closed the app and tried. I can do anything to make it use the telephoto lens except live focus.
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It's weird I'm with T-Mobile... And a switch isn't happening for me except with live focus. With all zooms on regular mode it's always the camera closest to the heart sensor that displays the image ... And I've switched uncovered in a well lit area and even closed the app and tried. I can do anything to make it use the telephoto lens except live focus.
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Try cover the second lens(outer) and then switch between 1X and 2X.
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Tidbits said:
Try cover the second lens(outer) and then switch between 1X and 2X.
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I did... But what is that supposed to achieve the outer lens is already the one not displaying anything.
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I did... But what is that supposed to achieve the outer lens is already the one not displaying anything.
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If it wasn't being use or some "tricks" then why does it not display a thing when it is covered.
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Ok I got it to switch but I basically had to aim the camera at a light bulb to get it to register. I'm in a what I consider well lit room. And it wouldn't make the switch. There must have to be a crap ton of light to trigger it... Or maybe it just has to be white light.
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If it wasn't being use or some "tricks" then why does it not display a thing when it is covered.
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What I meant by not displaying (which I now see where your confusion was) was that the inner camera was the one supplying the image on both 1x and 2x.. the outer wasn't even turning on at all to display an image (obstructed or otherwise).
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Ok I got it to switch but I basically had to aim the camera at a light bulb to get it to register. I'm in a what I consider well lit room. And it wouldn't make the switch. There must have to be a crap ton of light to trigger it... Or maybe it just has to be white light.
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What I meant by not displaying (which I now see where your confusion was) was that the inner camera was the one supplying the image on both 1x and 2x.. the outer wasn't even turning on at all to display an image (obstructed or otherwise).
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For me if I cover the outer it and I hit 2X I see nothing. I go back to 1X it switches. If I cover it with my fingers from time to time I can move faster than the software and you can see it switch from outer to inner digital zoom. Right now I don't have another phone or camera where I can record it. I hoped I could go home early but looks like I will pull a double.
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Soo I have had my Xperia Z3 Compact for 2 years now and yeah the camera wasn't the best but it just started to degrade and now it looks like sh*t literally,I have Carbon ROM 5.1 running which is Nougat and I thought if I flashed the Sony Camera Mod and Cyberian with it it would be better,and yes it did get better but I still cannot get good shots in moderately lit situations,only I can get a good shot is on a very sunny day,and the front camera isn't very good either,looks pixelated. And no,no dust entered the camera since the phone was dissasembled recently and cleaned from everything.
So my question is how can I make the camera usable since I am a camera heavy user since I use Snapchat almost all the time and I cannot live without the camera.
And as for the speaker it just seems to be quiet,I always take my bluetooth speaker since the speakers on the phone are very quiet and yes I removed that waterproofing thing from them and the speakers are new since I got the whole front panel changed.
Any suggestions will be taken for granted.
Clean the camera protective cover with toothpaste until you remove the blue anti reflective coating.
Small scratches on the coating will ruin the picture.
kentaurest said:
Clean the camera protective cover with toothpaste until you remove the blue anti reflective coating.
Small scratches on the coating will ruin the picture.
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From the outside of the back cover or the inside?
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From the outside of the back cover or the inside?
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Outside
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/general/tut-clean-camera-lens-getting-blurry-t3169539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Y57xrKXj0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVv8r7COWuU
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/general/tut-clean-camera-lens-getting-blurry-t3169539
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So that solved the back camera,Thank you,but how do I solve the front camera?
Dinkec27 said:
So that solved the back camera,Thank you,but how do I solve the front camera?
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Front camera is quite bad, can't help your there.
In my experience the glue strip which holds the screen and back to the frame slowly lets go, so dust settles in.
If yours is clean, good, but not for long.
Replacement double sided tape is worse quality than the factory tape was.
Some repair services use two double sided tapes to compensate the flex and keep the screen in place.
Snapchat doesn't work well with sony.
I have used z1c, z3c and xc ... with all of them snapchat somehow ruins the picture / video quality.
Because it has to downsize 23 mpix sensor data and doesn't have time or processing power to do it correctly, so it uses previews :
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/fyi-why-androids-snapchat-app-takes-inferior-photos-0174597/
Make picture with the phone camera app and then use that in snapchat.
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Found some more about snapchat
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/64xqv0/snapchat_recording_quality/
Snapchat is purposely bad on Android. When you open Snapchat:
both of your phones cameras turn on, the front and back.
both cameras STAY on, even if you are not using them. Even if you are just chatting, watching stories, etc. Ever notice how hot your phone gets and how fast your battery drains? Ta-da!
when you take a picture, it does NOT take a "picture", it is a screenshot of what is displayed on your screen.
Recording a video? It's just a screen record, not an actual video recording using the phones camera.
If you just click home instead of backing out or killing Snapchat, the cameras will continue to run in the background and your battery will go down super fast.
I have similar experience, phone get really warm when sending several snaps and battery depletes super fast.
kentaurest said:
Front camera is quite bad, can't help your there.
In my experience the glue strip which holds the screen and back to the frame slowly lets go, so dust settles in.
If yours is clean, good, but not for long.
Replacement double sided tape is worse quality than the factory tape was.
Some repair services use two double sided tapes to compensate the flex and keep the screen in place.
Snapchat doesn't work well with sony.
I have used z1c, z3c and xc ... with all of them snapchat somehow ruins the picture / video quality.
Because it has to downsize 23 mpix sensor data and doesn't have time or processing power to do it correctly, so it uses previews :
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/fyi-why-androids-snapchat-app-takes-inferior-photos-0174597/
Make picture with the phone camera app and then use that in snapchat.
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I know how Snapchat functions and the way it functions is absolutely rubish.
Well my camera isn't like foggy,it is just pixelated. I just need this phone to hold for 6 more months and it can rest in peace.
Taking pictures through the stock camera isn't as bad because the camera app removes the noise anf the pixelation,but in Snapchat it just doesn't look good,and in the viewfinder in the camera app it is the worst.
Here's a thread I made on the Nokia forums: https://community.phones.nokia.com/support/discussions/topics/7000022066
"Here's something I noticed today - taking a picture in certain low light conditions produces a pink/reddish spot in the middle of the picture.
So far I've only been able to reproduce it in my own room, with natural light coming through blue curtains on beige/brown objects.
After doing some research, it appears this issue is rather well documented on many phones from different manufacturers, the Galaxy S2, S5, Xperia phones. Some sources say it might just be an issue with all smartphone sensors, referred to as "color shading", some just hide it better. My old Galaxy S3 appears to have it too, although nowhere near to the same extent. If I may, here's a couple links from androidcentral and xda of people talking about it.
What I'm wondering now is how widespread this is on the Nokia 8 in particular and whether there's any hope of having it better after a replacement. Interestingly enough, the front camera doesn't have that issue, even if it might be the same sensor (is it?), but maybe it's due to the optics too, which are probably quite different.
It also appears possible to compensate for it in the software, so I wonder what are the chances of that in case it's common on the Nokia 8.
I'll try adding a few examples I took in the comments. "
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They haven't approved my pictures there yet, so here's an imgur album - https://imgur.com/a/VccdP
Apparently it happens on certain black fabric and not only in natural light.
I replased my phone to new one for that reason...this was 6 months ago.
Its the sony image sensor issue same as xperia z3
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simon-sf said:
I replased my phone to new one for that reason...this was 6 months ago.
Its the sony image sensor issue same as xperia z3
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Btw its still there but not so bad...try to use iso speed under 600.
simon-sf said:
I replased my phone to new one for that reason...this was 6 months ago.
Its the sony image sensor issue same as xperia z3
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Btw its still there but not so bad...try to use iso speed under 600.
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So there are variances between devices then. How bad was your first phone and how much did the new one improve? Any chance you could try taking a photo of a worst example? Say black fabric in a dimly lit room.
The pink spot was clearly visible in mousebad...bow its better image from this one coming soon.
Nro:1 nokia camera app
Nro:2 open camera , iso speed 500
So its stil there.
Opencamera raw
I guess that does look a little better. Maybe.. Difficult to tell how much the scenarios match. Either way, I've turned the phone in for warranty, will see what happens.
Can you update us what happens? I just got this phone too and have the same issue sadly though the local Nokia agent isn't a very strong one I don't think they'll replace my handset. Anyway anyway out of curiosity... What color are your phones that are making this issue? Mine is the copper and I think that's the issue some how
Today morning we look go worker nokia 8 128gb version it has pinky too.
angvil said:
Can you update us what happens? I just got this phone too and have the same issue sadly though the local Nokia agent isn't a very strong one I don't think they'll replace my handset. Anyway anyway out of curiosity... What color are your phones that are making this issue? Mine is the copper and I think that's the issue some how
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Mine was tempered blue. I very highly doubt the color has anything to do with it.
Nothing to say so far, will probably hear back next week. I'm only wondering if they got the idea that it's happening on all the pictures, as I only showed the bad examples and didn't note 'low light' in the problem description. I hope they're able to reproduce the issue themselves.
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Mine was tempered blue. I very highly doubt the color has anything to do with it.
Nothing to say so far, will probably hear back next week. I'm only wondering if they got the idea that it's happening on all the pictures, as I only showed the bad examples and didn't note 'low light' in the problem description. I hope they're able to reproduce the issue themselves.
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I managed to solve it by contacting Nokia support, they told me to hold the volume up button and power button to clear cache.
After that the pink shade went completely, I couldn't replicate it at all.
Another thing I was wondering is are the lenses exactly centered on the hole opening of the lenses? Mine isn't exactly centered
Look closely to the picture attached. Could this be the culprit?
My upper sensor not fully center.
angvil said:
I managed to solve it by contacting Nokia support, they told me to hold the volume up button and power button to clear cache.
After that the pink shade went completely, I couldn't replicate it at all.
Another thing I was wondering is are the lenses exactly centered on the hole opening of the lenses? Mine isn't exactly centered
Look closely to the picture attached. Could this be the culprit?
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Are you sure? I restored factory settings before bringing it in and it didn't change a thing.
And I can't really tell with the picture at an angle. I never noticed anything like it on my phone. Not completely centered across the length of the phone or the width?
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Are you sure? I restored factory settings before bringing it in and it didn't change a thing.
And I can't really tell with the picture at an angle. I never noticed anything like it on my phone. Not completely centered across the length of the phone or the width?
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I did factory reset too that didn't help though! The volume up and power button helped though.
Not centered as in the lense itself inside the round circle isn't centered! Check the bottom lense in the picture I attached. The lense is slightly shifted downwards
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I did factory reset too that didn't help though! The volume up and power button helped though.
Not centered as in the lense itself inside the round circle isn't centered! Check the bottom lense in the picture I attached. The lense is slightly shifted downwards
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Sounds almost too good to be true, but I've got no way to test it out right now. Any chance you could take some pictures where it would've been visible before? Say a black mouse pad or whatever.
Yeah, I can see that. May have to do with where the sensor rests since that's the stabilized color one? Try seeing how it is when taking a video.
I got my phone back. Of course, the service center couldn't replicate the issue. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt as it's not easy to notice, even if I did try explaining the situations where it's the most visible. Oh well. I never noticed it on my SIII in four years, though it's not as clear, so I guess I'll just live with it.
Also clearing the cache made no difference no matter how many times I tried.
So its still there?
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So its still there?
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Yes, nothing changed. I got my old phone back, not a new one, just to clarify.
I am going to make sure that repair nan can see the spot in my phone...modules are going to chance so many times that there is no pinky.
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I am going to make sure that repair nan can see the spot in my phone...modules are going to chance so many times that there is no pinky.
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Good luck. I'm honestly doubtful you can find one with no pink spot. Maybe minimally visible at best.