Windows 10 to Note 9. Can I Remote Desktop and force DeX? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

I've never actually tried this, but is there a way to:
Remote Desktop into the Galaxy Note 9?
Force the session to DeX mode?

JOSHSKORN said:
I've never actually tried this, but is there a way to:
Remote Desktop into the Galaxy Note 9?
Force the session to DeX mode?
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I'm trying to visualize this. You begin on a windows laptop... display the Remote Desktop of your phone on the laptop... and then... what? Not seeing the last step.
If you ran DeX on the phone, it would show you nothing except the phone's "desktop" which would be what the phone shows, not what DeX is showing on any laptop. In addition, DeX would want to project onto your laptop, which would mean you'd have DeX running (I guess?) alongside the phone's display on your laptop.
I project my Mac laptop screen to a Roku Ultra and from there to our old TV set. I can then run DeX on my laptop via the phone and it projects onto our TV via the Roku since it is displaying on the laptop. But all this is only showing you that I, too, find esoteric (and fun) ideas to try out. I've not once used my Roku/TV to do any work via DeX. A bit cumbersome...
Forgive me if I've missed your purpose.

shonkin said:
I'm trying to visualize this. You begin on a windows laptop... display the Remote Desktop of your phone on the laptop... and then... what? Not seeing the last step.
If you ran DeX on the phone, it would show you nothing except the phone's "desktop" which would be what the phone shows, not what DeX is showing on any laptop. In addition, DeX would want to project onto your laptop, which would mean you'd have DeX running (I guess?) alongside the phone's display on your laptop.
I project my Mac laptop screen to a Roku Ultra and from there to our old TV set. I can then run DeX on my laptop via the phone and it projects onto our TV via the Roku since it is displaying on the laptop. But all this is only showing you that I, too, find esoteric (and fun) ideas to try out. I've not once used my Roku/TV to do any work via DeX. A bit cumbersome...
Forgive me if I've missed your purpose.
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On Windows 10 (for instance):
Open Remote Desktop
Type in your phone's login credientials
You're logged into your phone. Instead of actually seeing your phone within your Remote Desktop session, you see your phone in DeX mode. THAT'S what I'm looking for. Essentially, DeX for PC without having to use Dex for PC since it doesn't support wireless.
Is that possible at this time?

JOSHSKORN said:
On Windows 10 (for instance):
Open Remote Desktop
Type in your phone's login credientials
You're logged into your phone. Instead of actually seeing your phone within your Remote Desktop session, you see your phone in DeX mode. THAT'S what I'm looking for. Essentially, DeX for PC without having to use Dex for PC since it doesn't support wireless.
Is that possible at this time?
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But your phone in DeX mode shows.... nothing. Because DeX only "shows itself" on the laptop where the DeX app for Windows/OSX is running. The phone serves DeX to the laptop. So... you'd see nothing except the phone. Which shows you nothing. The snag being that handshake - which requires at present a usb connection - between DeX served up by the phone and DeX being connected to via the DeX app on the laptop.
And I hope I'm wrong, because it would be really cool if you somehow were able to get a DeX session wirelessly before UI 2.5 even comes out.

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i do belive hes refering to getting the note 9 into wireless dex

Yup. He's pretty much asking for Wireless DeX.
It'll be out with OneUI 2.5 (hopefully, if they dont choose to trim the firmware from features), in about 2 weeks tops. And it'll require the Dex app installed on Windows, it definitely wont work with RDP.
Edit: and i assume it'll work only locally on the network.

PlutoDelic said:
Yup. He's pretty much asking for Wireless DeX.
It'll be out with OneUI 2.5 (hopefully, if they dont choose to trim the firmware from features), in about 2 weeks tops. And it'll require the Dex app installed on Windows, it definitely wont work with RDP.
Edit: and i assume it'll work only locally on the network.
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Yep I'm pretty much asking for Wireless DeX, you're right...but with a different approach, since the PC app requires a physical connection. I didn't know if there potentially was a way to force a DeX session if you attempted to connect to your phone through RDP. It would be neat if that were possible. I do know about One UI 2.5 so I guess I'll just have to wait. It does look like it's coming to the Note 9 sometime in October.

JOSHSKORN said:
Yep I'm pretty much asking for Wireless DeX, you're right...but with a different approach, since the PC app requires a physical connection.
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Well, that's the point of Wireless DeX, it wont require a physical connection with a USB cable, just both devices being on the same network.

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Software for Atrix-like Dock?

I've seen the way the Atrix docks so that you can use the phone on a larger screen; does anybody know of a way to do this with our Captivates? It would be great to just plug my phone in to my netbook or laptop, bring the phone up on the screen, and use the phone right on screen.
I'm not talking about hooking the phone up to the monitor, I'm talking about emulating it through the USB port onto Windows or Ubuntu.
jeromekobriger said:
I've seen the way the Atrix docks so that you can use the phone on a larger screen; does anybody know of a way to do this with our Captivates? It would be great to just plug my phone in to my netbook or laptop, bring the phone up on the screen, and use the phone right on screen.
I'm not talking about hooking the phone up to the monitor, I'm talking about emulating it through the USB port onto Windows or Ubuntu.
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you can use video out and bluetooth mouse and keyboard, a mouse pointer will pop up on the home screen. but you wont have a way to get a webtop like view unless you do one better and install linux on the phone and then use ssh and vnc software. unfortunately you will get a low res view because we don have hdmi like the atrix.
another alternative (like you are asking for) is to us the phone with a computer like a laptop and use droidvnc fro mthe market and a vnc client on the pc to get your home view on the pc. this can work on linux or window or mac. just a matter of a market app and a vnc clien for the pc
and yeah the atrix is kinda lame. they could have done better with it.

[Q] Is there usb tethering available?

I recently got a lumia 822 and would like to use it as a USB connected http proxy. I don't want a full network connection or wifi based solution as I need to keep my computer connected to the existing network but would like to be able to tell Firefox to connect to the Internet via a proxy so web traffic if passed through the phone thus avoiding the internal web monitoring.
I do this via proxoid on my android phone and it works perfect. If there a comparable solution for windows phone 8?
Thanks
The only solution available is TetherX. Its available in the Windows Phone Store. It works via WiFi that's hosted from a laptop and only WebPages work. The only device at this time that supports USB tethering is the Samsung ATIV, using Diagnosis.
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That's... not really USB tethering in the usual sense at all (which does exist, at least for the Samsung WP8 phones) but it might be possible. I don't know if anybody has written a proxy server app for the phone yet, but it's a pretty clever thing to do, now that I think about it. The SDK should support it; we can do server sockets just fine. Doing it over USB would be tricky - the phone can do Ethernet over USB, but it's not part of the official SDK - but it might be possible. Setting it up as a WiFi proxy (with some security, ideally...) shouldn't be too hard.
GoodDayToDie said:
That's... not really USB tethering in the usual sense at all (which does exist, at least for the Samsung WP8 phones) but it might be possible. I don't know if anybody has written a proxy server app for the phone yet, but it's a pretty clever thing to do, now that I think about it. The SDK should support it; we can do server sockets just fine. Doing it over USB would be tricky - the phone can do Ethernet over USB, but it's not part of the official SDK - but it might be possible. Setting it up as a WiFi proxy (with some security, ideally...) shouldn't be too hard.
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Yeah, calling it a tether is not exactly right but I wasn't really sure what to call it. The issue with having it as a wifi spot is that it would be visible. The real reason I was looking for something like this is work has pretty draconian monitoring software. I haven't gotten the phone yet but once I do I may try to look into how the computer sees it when plugged into USB. If the phone can be exposed as an ip (127.0.0.1) via USB then it would seem possible to write an app to open a port and pass the traffic back and forth.
Thank you though.
HT123 said:
Yeah, calling it a tether is not exactly right but I wasn't really sure what to call it. The issue with having it as a wifi spot is that it would be visible. The real reason I was looking for something like this is work has pretty draconian monitoring software. I haven't gotten the phone yet but once I do I may try to look into how the computer sees it when plugged into USB. If the phone can be exposed as an ip (127.0.0.1) via USB then it would seem possible to write an app to open a port and pass the traffic back and forth.
Thank you though.
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First, I don't have the phone yet so all of these ideas are just wild speculation but at quick glance the program ipoverusbenum may help in a USB proxy solution. without a way to do this, I'm stuck with my old android device.

Frustrated ; Unable to Cast : Tab

Just bought a chromecast... Like it so far.
I can cast anything from my Galaxy S3 that allows it; AllCast photos/music, YouTube app & Netflix app.
I can cast YouTube through Chrome browser. I don't use much else that could cast (HBO Go, etc,) via the browser. I can see the Chromecast from any device, and for the most part, it works flawlessly.
What I can't do irritates the living hell out of me, esp. since I can't find a reason why this doesn't seem to work for just me. Casting a tab in Chrome or the whole desktop will not work for me. I've tried searching; tried restarting, re-installing, reset to stock, checking VPNs, disabling the 5 ghz band from the router, re-installing Chrome, re-installing the chromecast extension. Nothing seems to work.
I press the cast button (extension) in Chrome (v32 I believe), and the TV flashes to a black screen, the blue cast icon appears on what tab I'm trying to cast, then after about 5 seconds, the red box w/ an X replaces the extension. "Unable to cast" is the reason. It tells me to check my connection.
I'm running a Windows 8 64-bit Lenovo laptop with updated Chrome. YouTube works through Chrome browser, but casting a tab won't.
I know this is a beta extension, but no one seems to have real big issues casting tabs. What am I doing wrong?
Thanks for your input
Do you have any virtual network cards installed like what you get when you install Virtual Box?
For Windows 8, here are more things to try:
Turn the 'Sharing' setting ON.
You can turn this setting on by following the steps below:
Navigate to your Desktop. (Your Desktop will be one of the default tiles on your homescreen)
Click on your WiFi settings on the bottom of your desktop bar (At the very bottom, right hand side of your Desktop)
Right click on your connected Wi-Fi network
Select 'Turn sharing on or off'
Ensure sharing is set to 'on'
Please note: Software that installs a virtual NIC - VMware, Win8 Hyper-V, but also some NAS drivers - may cause discovery issues between a laptop/desktop and the Chromecast.
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Make sure IPv6 is enabled on the Windows Machine and Router
vestaviajag said:
I'm running a Windows 8 64-bit Lenovo laptop with updated Chrome. YouTube works through Chrome browser, but casting a tab won't.
I know this is a beta extension, but no one seems to have real big issues casting tabs. What am I doing wrong?
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What router do you have?
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r00t4rd3d said:
Do you have any virtual network cards installed like what you get when you install Virtual Box?
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I shouldn't have those installed, haven't installed Virtual Box. Is there a way to tell?
r00t4rd3d said:
For Windows 8, here are more things to try:
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Sharing is on, has been.
I have hardly installed any 3rd party applications since purchasing the laptop in December. Office and stuff like that only.
I can see the chromecast, discovery has never been an issue; only casting a tab. I can cast YouTube from the laptop flawlessly.
Asphyx said:
Make sure IPv6 is enabled on the Windows Machine and Router
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It is, one of the first and most often things checked.
bhiga said:
What router do you have?
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almost positive it's the Western Digital My Net N600
vestaviajag said:
almost positive it's the Western Digital My Net N600
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Ensure UPnP is enabled per page 49 (section starts on page 42) of your router's manual.
If it's already enabled, try disabling it. If that doesn't help (or makes things worse), re-enable it.
If UPnP doesn't change things, try toggling QoS per page 47
Be sure to reboot the router between settings changes for good measure.
bhiga said:
Ensure UPnP is enabled per page 49 (section starts on page 42) of your router's manual.
If it's already enabled, try disabling it. If that doesn't help (or makes things worse), re-enable it.
If UPnP doesn't change things, try toggling QoS per page 47
Be sure to reboot the router between settings changes for good measure.
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On my way home to try this. Thank you for your help and troubleshooting.
Will report back.
bhiga said:
Ensure UPnP is enabled per page 49 (section starts on page 42) of your router's manual.
If it's already enabled, try disabling it. If that doesn't help (or makes things worse), re-enable it.
If UPnP doesn't change things, try toggling QoS per page 47
Be sure to reboot the router between settings changes for good measure.
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No dice. Neither one made it worse or better.
vestaviajag said:
No dice. Neither one made it worse or better.
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Hmmm. Can you try your laptop on a wired connection? Also plug it into wall power.
I'm wondering if the wireless load is causing issues our the performanceis being limited by being on battery.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
bhiga said:
Hmmm. Can you try your laptop on a wired connection? Also plug it into wall power.
I'm wondering if the wireless load is causing issues our the performanceis being limited by being on battery.
Sent from a device with no keyboard. Please forgive typos, they may not be my own.
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I will try the laptop on a wired connection tonight. If that's the case though, it kind of defeats the purpose as my router is right below my tv w/ the chromecast; might as well just connect the laptop to the tv via HDMI.
By "plug it into wall power" do you mean the laptop or the chromecast? The laptop was on wall power last night, almost always is. I can try the chromecast, as it's only plugged into the tv.
This is driving me crazy, as everything else works. YouTube from the laptop casts perfectly, as does any app on either one of our Galaxy S3s.
vestaviajag said:
I will try the laptop on a wired connection tonight. If that's the case though, it kind of defeats the purpose as my router is right below my tv w/ the chromecast; might as well just connect the laptop to the tv via HDMI.
By "plug it into wall power" do you mean the laptop or the chromecast? The laptop was on wall power last night, almost always is. I can try the chromecast, as it's only plugged into the tv.
This is driving me crazy, as everything else works. YouTube from the laptop casts perfectly, as does any app on either one of our Galaxy S3s.
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If your router really is directly under Chromecast, I'm surprised Chromecast is getting a signal at all - it's probably being bounced off surroundings.
The WiFi antenna transmission tends to not cover directly above/below.
For a quick test, turn your router on its side if it'll balance, or move it (or Chromecast) off to the side so it's not directly above/under.
bhiga said:
If your router really is directly under Chromecast, I'm surprised Chromecast is getting a signal at all - it's probably being bounced off surroundings.
The WiFi antenna transmission tends to not cover directly above/below.
For a quick test, turn your router on its side if it'll balance, or move it (or Chromecast) off to the side so it's not directly above/under.
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I'll try that. It's not directly under, sorry for the exaggeration. My TV is mounted on the wall 3 feet above our entertainment center, where the router is located.
I still find it weird that everything works but casting a tab, which leads me to believe it's software or laptop related. I'm going to try it from my backup Windows 7 machine in the guest bedroom, see if that works.
Thanks bhiga for all your help!!!
vestaviajag said:
I'll try that. It's not directly under, sorry for the exaggeration. My TV is mounted on the wall 3 feet above our entertainment center, where the router is located.
I still find it weird that everything works but casting a tab, which leads me to believe it's software or laptop related. I'm going to try it from my backup Windows 7 machine in the guest bedroom, see if that works.
Thanks bhiga for all your help!!!
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Anywhere within about a 20-degree cone above/below tends to be bleh for signal.
Another computer is a great test. Keep the results coming and we'll get somewhere sooner or later.
If you have a third-party antivirus (ie, not Microsoft) it may be worth disabling it temporarily. Sometimes the more-intrusive antivirus "suites" include firewall components that may intercept Chromecast traffic as a potential network flood or DoS attack.
bhiga said:
Anywhere within about a 20-degree cone above/below tends to be bleh for signal.
Another computer is a great test. Keep the results coming and we'll get somewhere sooner or later.
If you have a third-party antivirus (ie, not Microsoft) it may be worth disabling it temporarily. Sometimes the more-intrusive antivirus "suites" include firewall components that may intercept Chromecast traffic as a potential network flood or DoS attack.
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Another laptop (office; Windows 7) works perfectly casting a tab and screen. So it's not the unit OR the router settings.
I will try moving my router, but that confuses me as I can flawlessly stream YouTube videos from my main laptop (living room; Windows 8), the one I'm having difficult casting a tab from.
Will first disable 3rd party anti-virus software/firewalls and attempt that. How can I check VPNs on a Windows 8 machine? All tutorials I read are about Windows 7 and they seemed to change the settings around between versions.
vestaviajag said:
Another laptop (office; Windows 7) works perfectly casting a tab and screen. So it's not the unit OR the router settings.
I will try moving my router, but that confuses me as I can flawlessly stream YouTube videos from my main laptop (living room; Windows 8), the one I'm having difficult casting a tab from.
Will first disable 3rd party anti-virus software/firewalls and attempt that. How can I check VPNs on a Windows 8 machine? All tutorials I read are about Windows 7 and they seemed to change the settings around between versions.
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The good news is that nothing else is broken.
The bad news is the broken part is you(r laptop).
YouTube casting only involves your problem laptop for sending the cast request to Chromecast. From there Chromecast goes and fetches the requested video on its own directly from YouTube, so no laptop CPU or network is involved. (See diagrams in WiFi Bandwidth and Router considerations)
Wish I could help you on Windows 8 - I have the upgrade but have held off on installing it...
What are the specs of your working vs non-working laptop?
Tab casting take take a good amount of CPU horsepower so it might be that the encoding isn't keeping up and the Cast extension is giving you a misleading error message/condition.
bhiga said:
The good news is that nothing else is broken.
The bad news is the broken part is you(r laptop).
YouTube casting only involves your problem laptop for sending the cast request to Chromecast. From there Chromecast goes and fetches the requested video on its own directly from YouTube, so no laptop CPU or network is involved. (See diagrams in WiFi Bandwidth and Router considerations)
Wish I could help you on Windows 8 - I have the upgrade but have held off on installing it...
What are the specs of your working vs non-working laptop?
Tab casting take take a good amount of CPU horsepower so it might be that the encoding isn't keeping up and the Cast extension is giving you a misleading error message/condition.
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Ohh, that makes sense about the YouTube bit. Didn't think about that...
Office (Old) Laptop: Dell 17" Inspiron
i5 (1st Gen)
6gb RAM
Windows 7 : 64-bit
Living Room (New) Laptop: Lenovo 14" U430 Touch
i5 (4th Gen)
4gb RAM
Windows 8 : 64-bit
vestaviajag said:
Ohh, that makes sense about the YouTube bit. Didn't think about that...
Office (Old) Laptop: Dell 17" Inspiron
i5 (1st Gen)
6gb RAM
Windows 7
Living Room (New) Laptop: Lenovo 14" U410 Touch
i5 (4th Gen)
4gb RAM
Windows 8
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Well there goes that theory... Both should be fine.
Hmm. I'm stumped.
Does Windows 8 still have a "Safe mode"?
If you have an Ubuntu LiveCD you could try booting off of that and see if you can cast tab from Chrome in Ubuntu.
It's not supported, but these guys seem to say it works.
bhiga said:
Well there goes that theory... Both should be fine.
Hmm. I'm stumped.
Does Windows 8 still have a "Safe mode"?
If you have an Ubuntu LiveCD you could try booting off of that and see if you can cast tab from Chrome in Ubuntu.
It's not supported, but these guys seem to say it works.
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I've made SOME progress. Figured that the Adware Antivirus is clashing with the cast extension; I couldn't just disable it, I had to completely stop the process/program.
I'm still stuck though, because now I have the blue cast logo on my TV screen, but nothing ever gets cast. This didn't happen before, it would just crash and tell me "unable to cast".
I guess I'll try completely uninstalling that antivirus, see if I can get a bit further.
vestaviajag said:
I've made SOME progress. Figured that the Adware Antivirus is clashing with the cast extension; I couldn't just disable it, I had to completely stop the process/program.
I'm still stuck though, because now I have the blue cast logo on my TV screen, but nothing ever gets cast. This didn't happen before, it would just crash and tell me "unable to cast".
I guess I'll try completely uninstalling that antivirus, see if I can get a bit further.
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Progress is good. Also check Windows Firewall to make sure "Portable Media Devices" are enabled/allowed.

DEX connect to PC?

Via Debian Linux?
Edit: okay, I just realized there is a very similar thread on this. Sorry! Mods please delete.
I'm interested in operating my phone from my office or home desktop pc, using the DEX interface, rather than needing a separate keyboard/video/mouse setup. In other words, I would like to connect a single USB cable between my Note9 and my PC and have my Note9 DEX UI in a window on the PC monitor, with my PC's keyboard and mouse input to the DEX interface. Since the hardware setup needed for this is trivial (one USB cable), it is then just a matter of software.
Is there such PC software to do this?
It looks like there is finally an option for Note10 to Windows or MacOS.
https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-dex-windows-mac-1021495/
Is there software that works for Note9? And most importantly to me, is there software for Note9 on Debian Linux?
Anyone done this successfully with a PC environment rather than just a dex dongle to keyboard, video, and mouse?

Dex for PC Using Mobile Data Only?

Hi All,
I have read the various guides and the FAQ at Samsung's website but I cannot figure out if you can use Dex mode for PC without a wifi connection on laptop or phone. Basically what I would want to accomplish is Dex mode running on my laptop while utilizing the mobile data connection on the phone to provide the internet access to the Dex window on the laptop. I know I would not have wifi or internet on laptop this way but I can make Dex full screen and use the mobile data connection, I could then have a working substitute. Basically using the laptop as the monitor only at that point. I am waiting to upgrade my phone until I can get this figured out.
Thanks All,
Rob
Rob517 said:
Hi All,
I have read the various guides and the FAQ at Samsung's website but I cannot figure out if you can use Dex mode for PC without a wifi connection on laptop or phone. Basically what I would want to accomplish is Dex mode running on my laptop while utilizing the mobile data connection on the phone to provide the internet access to the Dex window on the laptop. I know I would not have wifi or internet on laptop this way but I can make Dex full screen and use the mobile data connection, I could then have a working substitute. Basically using the laptop as the monitor only at that point. I am waiting to upgrade my phone until I can get this figured out.
Thanks All,
Rob
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Note9 doesn't have DeX on PC (AFAIK), if you managed to get it working I can't see why it wouldn't work as the phone is connected to the laptop via USB and should be able to communicate through only the USB connection.

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