Is this phone even selling? - Motorola One Fusion+ Guides, News, & Discussion

Hi!
So, I've been a long time moto user, used the old G4 plus for more than 4 years (great phone!!!) and it served me well till I dropped it in the toilet (don't ask:laugh, which is how I'm here.
Now this phone is a few months old, yet this forum is almost empty! Very unlike the G4 plus xda forums when it first released, which a few months in was filled with discussions, tips, guides and roms.
I wonder if motorola/Lenovo's abysmal track record since the iconic G3, and then the G4 has a part in this? I mean the one fusion plus is a great phone on paper, and I've loved it so far, but the lack of discussions and developer participation here on XDA can only mean it's not selling enough to pull in the elite crowd.
Is a shame too, I'm not competent enough to find ways to root my phone by myself, nor make/port roms for it. Coming to XDA has always helped me do that because of its great user base. The fact that this forum isn't where it should be for a phone this great is IMO largely Lenovo's fault in taking its user's for granted since the G4, making people weary of buying it's products even when they did finally put out a decent product in the one fusion plus.
Pity.

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I hate to be this guy, but theres a good reason its not selling, and if its not the reason, at very least its a blessing. Ive had this phone for over a year now and its been the WORST phone I have ever had in my LIFE. The phone runs fine for a few weeks, then suddenly it becomes super slow. Facebook Messenger and Reddit will start randomly having problems loading messages and posts. Several websites including google discover app will start failing to show images. They just wont appear. Videos on many websites and youtube app will start to stutter or "Lag". I have NO idea what could have been causing this. I originally thought maybe it was a virus so I downloaded a couple virus scanners and checked and boom: Nothing. So, I factory reset and it worked for about a week and the same abnormal behavior started again. I then asked my sister, who has the same phone (who talked me into getting this phone) and shes having literally the same problems to a T. We dont know if its because of some update completely broke the phones ROM/OS or what, but the phone is an unstable broken mess right now. Nothing fixes it.
Also, that "Amazing" "Innovative" popup camera on both our phones occasionally gets stuck. You will open it to take a selfie and it simply wont go back down. The motor stops responding. Sometimes you literally have to FORCE it to go down which likely isnt good for the gears/motor. Its become so bad ive became afraid to take selfies.
I have used many Motorola/Lenovo phones and this phone is quite possibly one of the worst phones they've ever made. Let this be a warning to you if you consider buying this garbage. I didn't intend for this comment to end up basically being a review, but here we are. I was angry so I decided to write this comment and it became a review. I have been struggling lately which is why I haven't simply bought a different phone. Likely once I do get paid soon, I will be buying a different phone and I likely wont be buying a motorola again based on their quality. I literally upgraded from a Moto Z2 Force to the Moto One Fusion Plus and the moto z2 force had a ton of problems and the screen was literally peeling (look it up, its a known defect).
TLDR: Garbage phone. Constant freezes and crashes. Avoid.

cameroncr95 said:
I hate to be this guy, but theres a good reason its not selling, and if its not the reason, at very least its a blessing. Ive had this phone for over a year now and its been the WORST phone I have ever had in my LIFE. The phone runs fine for a few weeks, then suddenly it becomes super slow. Facebook Messenger and Reddit will start randomly having problems loading messages and posts. Several websites including google discover app will start failing to show images. They just wont appear. Videos on many websites and youtube app will start to stutter or "Lag". I have NO idea what could have been causing this. I originally thought maybe it was a virus so I downloaded a couple virus scanners and checked and boom: Nothing. So, I factory reset and it worked for about a week and the same abnormal behavior started again. I then asked my sister, who has the same phone (who talked me into getting this phone) and shes having literally the same problems to a T. We dont know if its because of some update completely broke the phones ROM/OS or what, but the phone is an unstable broken mess right now. Nothing fixes it.
Also, that "Amazing" "Innovative" popup camera on both our phones occasionally gets stuck. You will open it to take a selfie and it simply wont go back down. The motor stops responding. Sometimes you literally have to FORCE it to go down which likely isnt good for the gears/motor. Its become so bad ive became afraid to take selfies.
I have used many Motorola/Lenovo phones and this phone is quite possibly one of the worst phones they've ever made. Let this be a warning to you if you consider buying this garbage. I didn't intend for this comment to end up basically being a review, but here we are. I was angry so I decided to write this comment and it became a review. I have been struggling lately which is why I haven't simply bought a different phone. Likely once I do get paid soon, I will be buying a different phone and I likely wont be buying a motorola again based on their quality. I literally upgraded from a Moto Z2 Force to the Moto One Fusion Plus and the moto z2 force had a ton of problems and the screen was literally peeling (look it up, its a known defect).
TLDR: Garbage phone. Constant freezes and crashes. Avoid.
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I can add that the resolution doesn't even fit the screen, it's literally watching a tv with zoom mode on. Worst decision i made too, now i'm stuck with it

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Diamond destruction

Hey guys,
I had my Diamond for a few months now, and with the help and hard work by the great people in this forum I now got it from "unusable" (the way it was when it came out of the box) to "almost working" after flashing many different ROMs, trying tweaks, installing and uninstalling applications and hacks.
The device still is laggish, slow, unresponsive. Many things still suck hard, and it still crashes at least once a day. The ridiculous fact that there is a "reset manager" installed which does a scheduled soft reset every now and then speaks for itself.
To cut this short, I decided to destroy what I believe is the greatest piece of sh** you could ever put a SIM card into, and I want to do it in the most spectacular way possible.
The reasons for destroying it are:
1. It sucks so hard it makes me aggressive, I feel like throwing it on the ground at least once a day when I wait for an important call only to discover that that sob crashed two hours ago or when a phone call is dropped in the middle of a conversation
2. my friends laugh at me because I have the most sophisticated, most expensive cell phone and I am the one having the greatest trouble with it.
3. It HAS to be destroyed so it doesn't fall into someone else's hands and devours someone else's time, money and energy
4. It's fun, isn't it?
I will make a video of the destruction process and post it either here or on Youtube for the amusement of the community.
What I need now are your suggestions on how to do it. Please participate in the poll attached to this thread and let me know what you think.
i wouldnt mind
hi, i wouldnt mind my time and money devoured by this evil diamond of yours =)
really, but elf broke down today, and i hope they will replace it with something awesomer, but i dont have that kind of money to buy myself a new one =P
you can destroy my touch, it has caused me even more trouble than you diamond i think =D
Give it to someone else...
There are even people finding it fantastic...
Or to a chef, that he can continue to make excellent ROMs...
I think, that Dutty broke his Diamond and is looking for another one...
Ok, I go out...
the point
c'mon you guys, this is not about getting rid of the device. We have a working public service here and they collect trash every two weeks.
No, this is about something else. It is about the question what exactly is happening here, why this forum exists and what has become normal in the world of 2008.
It is that a manufacturer has brought a device to the market that can only be used after hours and hours spent on doing what the developers were supposed to do. People like Dutty, who's ROM I am using right now, deserve not only respect for what they are doing, they also deserve to get PAID for it - not by donations, but with cold hard cash from HTC.
I can buy an electric two-speed hammer drill here at the hardware store for the equivalent of 10 US Dollars, it comes with printed instructions, a small bag with tools and replacement brushes, and a plastic carrying box. It is covered by a two year warranty.
On the other hand, I can buy a $500 piece of crap called the Touch Diamond, which is almost unuseable in the state I got it out of the box because of being FAR too slow to be used in an everyday manner. I can then spend HOURS AND DAYS on re-flashing, updating and customizing it with the results of work done by people like Dutty and all the others here who ALSO have spent their time and energy on the same goal, and I end up with a device that only crashed once a day and still is SLOW. Neither the manufacturer of the hardware nor Microsoft who have done the software GIVES A SH**.
I am currently writing a book on this and many other topics, on things that are to be considered somewhere between ripoff and burglary, and that have become widely accepted just because of the lack of alternatives.
Look at the dreaded Iphone, for example. A device that has NOTHING outstanding to offer, a mediocre PDA combined with a mediocre MP3 player, a mediocre 2MP camera, and a mediocre cell phone - all it has is USABILITY.
A technical piece of equipment, be it a cell phone or a hammer drill, has two basic reasons to justify its existence: functionality and usability. A hammer drill has to drill holes, but must also enable the user to handle it appropriately.
The Diamond lacks both of these. It is still full of bugs and flaws, as we all know, and it is hardly usable without the f***ing stylus. The Iphone has both, it is blazing fast AND it is a charm to handle, but it has no ground-breaking features AND it comes with the restrictive policies of Apple Computer that we all know.
Before anybody gets excited, the Iphone is NOT an alternative to the Diamond. My old Nokia 7373 is because it just WORKS.
I have to state an example here, and that's why the Diamond has to die. I will not give it to anyone, even though I would love to support the community, but I think I give a greater gift to society if only ONE person reads this and ends up thinking - wow, what a scam by HTC and M$.
Please participate in the poll ;-)
Why don't you just send it for repair?
What REPAIR?? What should I write as fault description: "SLOW, LAGGISH, FULL OF BUGS"?
Try to send Windows Vista in for repair, maybe you will get back the first error-free operating system in the known universe, for free...
That's the way it SHOULD be, but sadly, the way it IS is different.
I know at least 3 users who don't know this site and are using their stock diamond. They don't have the bottom-edge expectations as you seem to have.
I have them and yes, i find them here. This is another stupid, boring thread about something YOU COULD HAVE KNOWN from the start.
These are silly devices which cannot replace a PC, just phone and fun. I have seriously NO ISSUES AT ALL so please don't start spamming this **** again. I think that is stupid, we had enough of those people right at the beginning.
You buy it, YOU pay 500 dollar, YOU go into the marketing.
HTC makes money of it, makes a living of people working there. That's how market works. Stop complaining after you buy something. Then just don't buy it. You always have options to try out first.
Like the idea...
But you forgot to put in the option of putting it in acid and let it slowly dissolve into notingness...
That would get my vote!
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What REPAIR?? What should I write as fault description: "SLOW, LAGGISH, FULL OF BUGS"?
Try to send Windows Vista in for repair, maybe you will get back the first error-free operating system in the known universe, for free...
That's the way it SHOULD be, but sadly, the way it IS is different.
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3 months ago you were saying something completely different:
"I love the phone, really the first usable device without keyboard that relies on dialling via virtual keyboard. Still have the Samsung Armani thing here waiting to go on Ebay..."
It is really the peer pressure is not it? And the destruction show is mainly for them? Hardly anybody of the xda-developers members would make a good audience.
I felt disappointed with the Diamond when I got it in June this year and yes, the feeling of rage came to me especially when the GPS was unable to get a fix.
Since then I learnt how to tweak the phone and today I can say that if it was misplaced I would get the same phone again.
Perhaps your phone really developed some hardware problem that demonstrates itself in lockups and sluggishness. I had my phone last week sitting next to iphone and all comparable applications such as the google maps were running at the same speed.
And I do not need to restart it unless I do a lot of browsing with Opera, which is still in beta and the latest version 29/10 seems to have fixed even that.
Spamming, Riel, is what you do. Nobody cares about how many people you know that are willing to live with an overpriced device that doesn't stand up to what it promises. There are millions of organisms that eat feces and are happy with it, did you know that?
I could NOT have known from the start about any of the negative experiences I had to make while trying to use the Touch Diamond. When you buy a machine, like a coffee maker, you expect that it will make coffee. That is the implication of the fact that the coffee maker exists and is being sold as one.
I have bought a very expensive cell phone, implicating that I can make and receive phone calls and send SMS, and it does not even accomplish these basic tasks without showing bugs and errors. Another implicit expectation is that a device sold in 2008 would be at least as fast and responsive as my 2001 Ericsson T39m, at least as far as telephony and SMS are concerned.
I wouldn't complain if the Diamond needed 1-2 seconds to start a complex application like Google Maps, but it needs 1-2 seconds to switch from my email inbox to an already running Opera, and 3 seconds to take a picture after pressing the shutter button, and yes, it crashes during and after phone calls quite frequently.
Yes, I used other WM phones like the Samsung Omnia or even the Xperia (had the chance to play with it for half a day) and the ALL had these problems. Unfortunately I had already bought the Diamond...
I am not whining or complaining about the loss of money. If I was, I would sell the Diamond on Ebay or somewhere else instead of destroying it.
Riel, I have many devices here that simply do not function properly, with manufacturers not caring about it and saying that I have to live with it, including even a CAR.
What you wrote is just an example for how many people today have stopped thinking about what they can expect for their money. I would love to sell you a hammer drill that takes 30 minutes for drilling a hole, quits unexpectedly from time to time for no obvious reason, and weighs 20 pounds. People like YOU would be quite happy with it as long as it looks fancy, has a blue display on top of it and makes sounds like a device from Star Trek.
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3 months ago you were saying something completely different:
"I love the phone, really the first usable device without keyboard that relies on dialling via virtual keyboard. Still have the Samsung Armani thing here waiting to go on Ebay..."
It is really the peer pressure is not it? And the destruction show is mainly for them? Hardly anybody of the xda-developers members would make a good audience.
Yes, that's what I wrote, and it is still true. The Diamond is the first device I had in my hands that has no numeric keyboard AND allows dialling with one finger without major problems. True.
That was BEFORE I started using it beyond the capabilities of an ordinary cell phone, and BEFORE it started hanging or crashing in the middle of a call.
I wrote that I was impressed by the way I could dial numbers with the Diamond compared to the Armani, and that is still true as well.
No honey, it is not peer pressure. I don't mind running around with a pink Nokia everybody makes fun of, I did this for half a year, everybody was laughing, I didn't care. The fact is that I missed calls from people because of the phone not ringing and had to explain to them that my $500 high-tech phone is unable to play a ringtone when someone calls me. If somebody finds that funny, they are not making fun of me, but of HTC and Microsoft who sell crap like that for money. I can only make fun of myself because I was stupid enough to buy it, and this experience will keep me from buying any Windows Mobile device before I had the chance to play with WM7 for at least a week.
And come on, some people really need to lighten up a little. This is supposed to be a fun thread, it is about creating a funny video, if you don't want to read it press ALT-F4 and do something else.
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Chris1974 said:
Like the idea...
But you forgot to put in the option of putting it in acid and let it slowly dissolve into notingness...
That would get my vote!
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Very good idea, but I don't think there is any acid that will dissolve the plastic housing. What we would get would be a device where some internal parts would be eaten up by acid, but I don't think very much would be visible on the outside.
Apart from that, it is hard to get concentrated sulfuric acid due to the danger it imposes.
abel7777 said:
Spamming, Riel, is what you do. Nobody cares about how many people you know that are willing to live with an overpriced device that doesn't stand up to what it promises. There are millions of organisms that eat feces and are happy with it, did you know that?
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So why are you putting US up with your expectations? It's obvouis that the phone is good enough for the masses.
I could NOT have known from the start about any of the negative experiences I had to make while trying to use the Touch Diamond. When you buy a machine, like a coffee maker, you expect that it will make coffee. That is the implication of the fact that the coffee maker exists and is being sold as one.
I have bought a very expensive cell phone, implicating that I can make and receive phone calls and send SMS, and it does not even accomplish these basic tasks without showing bugs and errors. Another implicit expectation is that a device sold in 2008 would be at least as fast and responsive as my 2001 Ericsson T39m, at least as far as telephony and SMS are concerned.
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It does more then I want to. Don't know what your problem is, but I call, mail, sms, synchronise, navigate, play games etc. No it does not make coffee. And, yes, you had the option of trying it for a while.
I wouldn't complain if the Diamond needed 1-2 seconds to start a complex application like Google Maps, but it needs 1-2 seconds to switch from my email inbox to an already running Opera, and 3 seconds to take a picture after pressing the shutter button, and yes, it crashes during and after phone calls quite frequently.
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Just edit the registry. When you are not pations, you can set those delays to zero. The average user has no problems with it.
Yes, I used other WM phones like the Samsung Omnia or even the Xperia (had the chance to play with it for half a day) and the ALL had these problems. Unfortunately I had already bought the Diamond... I am not whining or complaining about the loss of money. If I was, I would sell the Diamond on Ebay or somewhere else instead of destroying it.
Riel, I have many devices here that simply do not function properly, with manufacturers not caring about it and saying that I have to live with it, including even a CAR.
What you wrote is just an example for how many people today have stopped thinking about what they can expect for their money. I would love to sell you a hammer drill that takes 30 minutes for drilling a hole, quits unexpectedly from time to time for no obvious reason, and weighs 20 pounds. People like YOU would be quite happy with it as long as it looks fancy, has a blue display on top of it and makes sounds like a device from Star Trek.
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Simple.
I think the perfect phone would cost 10.000 dollars, if you know what I mean.
Riel said:
So why are you putting US up with your expectations? It's obvouis that the phone is good enough for the masses.
It does more then I want to. Don't know what your problem is, but I call, mail, sms, synchronise, navigate, play games etc. No it does not make coffee. And, yes, you had the option of trying it for a while.
Just edit the registry. When you are not pations, you can set those delays to zero. The average user has no problems with it.
Simple.
I think the perfect phone would cost 10.000 dollars, if you know what I mean.
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Well, Riel, I did not have the option of trying it for a while as you wrote... At first, it looks - and feels - great. You play around with all the features, discover the G-sensor, try a little GPS with Google Maps - great. It's like getting a new car with new features that the old one didn't have - electric windows, electric seats, more power, everything smells new - great.
When after a couple of weeks you notice a rattle behind the glove box you start noticing things that you didn't see - or didn't want to see - when it was new.
I don't see me here putting the blame on anyone on this board. I put the blame on the manufacturer who didn't do his job, be it for the hardware or the software part. Why should I edit the registry in my unpaid time to fix a camera delay that I am not responsible for?
You buy a new car, you notice that the air conditioner doesn't work. Would you start tweaking this yourself? Just edit the registry, put in another orifice, flush the system, and maybe that helps?
You are right, the perfect phone would cost a lot of money. Maybe $10000 as you write. Maybe a little less. If it would exist, I would happily spend like $2500 on it. But I don't think it would have to be so expensive - the Iphone is a good start, but with all of its implicit (no flash, no cut-and-paste, too big, poor resolution...) and synthetic (restrictive Apple policies) limitations it's no alternative.
I did not intend to create a discussion like this, I wanted to let all of you participate in the execution of my phone, that's what the poll is for. I am SURE that very many people from this board will watch the video once it's there. I am not torturing lab mice here, it's just a phone so no need to get excited.
If you really want to destroy such a nice device id say go with boiling water and then shoot the hell out of it :>
I love my diamond with duttys ROM, I was disappointed for a while after i bought it how slow it is (1st ones that came out). but since I had tweaked my old wizard here this didnt feel so hard to do the same for this.
my first Diamond got stolen in Bulgaria and I had insurance choice to take money or new phone, I gone for new Diamond. it had new rom and was pretty fast without any tweaks
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That was BEFORE I started using it beyond the capabilities of an ordinary cell phone, and BEFORE it started hanging or crashing in the middle of a call.
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Definitively a hardware issue. I had a couple of phones like that and they were both fixed in warranty by the manufacturer's service centre.
The problem is that it is hard to distinguish between software issues and hardware problems on a device like Diamond unless you had a working phone in your hand.
Switching between applications is instant, just tried now from inbox to opera running under 1 sec.
Oh and with the Camera lag- it is there on purpose, it is meant to stabilize the picture after pressing the shutter. I have the shutter delay off and it takes the photo within 1/2 sec.
you can double press the camera button to take a instant picture. It has a Auto Focus, which is why it takes a couple of seconds. Length of time does depend on light conditions. more light = quicker to take picture

I'm on my 9th Droid 3 replacement...

Thought I'd share my story with you all in hopes that some of you may have had similar problems I've had with the Droid 3, perhaps in an effort to give me hope that one day I'll receive one that isn't shot to hell in some way shape or form.
1.) Brand-new, upgraded from the Droid 2 around the first week of August. This one lasted about a month before the slider just gave out and became so loose that it would open up by itself if I held the phone horizontally. No case was used on it prior, so I'm not sure what caused this. Never dropped it either (I baby the hell out of my phones).
2.) Replacement came in, no big deal. Attempted to slide it open right out of the box. Guess what? Wouldn't budge. Literally jammed shut. Sent it back the same day.
3.) Boot-looping from hell and 3G drop all the time in places where I should have full reception (i.e., my house). 5.6.890 was not released at this time.
4.) - 7.) Every single one had a completely jacked up sliding mechanism that would either squeek, crack, scratch, jam, or completely tear apart the left plastic portion next to the keyboard within just 5-10 slides. Unacceptable. 1 or 2 of these (lost count) also loved to boot-loop for no apparent reason. Mind you, I tried every trick in the book. Tried never installing ANY apps, tried replacing the extended battery with the stock one, tried replacing the SD-card with a different one, and hard-resetted several times. To no avail.
8.) Replacement #8. 5.6.890 is released, no more boot-looping it seems, but this one has a vibrating mechanism from hell. Whenever it would vibrate, it would sound like electricity. Haptic feedback on it felt like voltage. Unacceptable.
9.) Just received replacement #9 today. This <MAY> be a stupid thing to complain about, but wherever I press on the phone, the damn thing squeeks like it's falling apart. Press the home button ever so slightly...*squeek.* Press the back button...*rattle*. Wipe the phone down with a cloth...*rattle rattle crackle crackle squeek squeek squeeeeeeeeek*. No matter how little pressure I use, it squeeks as if its falling apart. The sliding mechanism, however, feels solid and amazing on this one. Clicks and holds tight, but OH MY GOD IS SQUEEKS AND RATTLES SO MUCH. Never had/heard this problem on the other 8 replacements.
Someone shoot me =/
Also, none of these problems arose post-root nor did I root any of the ones I owned. I have rooted my brothers and I'm currently using his to text out new ROMs and such....but it's freaking annoying. I want my own to play with and flash.
Does anyone else have weird problems? I may be a little OCD when it comes to stuff like this, but I sure as hell didn't pay 230 dollars for a boot-looping/voltage vibrating/3g dropping/SQUEEKING phone.
...does anyone else's "squeek" or "rattle" when the press down on the bottom-right or top-right corners of the phone when it's closed?
I have 2 DROID 3 have not had any issues with them. Have had them for 12 weeks now still solid
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Also on 9th Droid 3
number 10 is in the mail ...Some thing happen with these phones before we got them that all i can say i keep having screen issues with every one it like a screen on speed wiggling pixels and gives me a headache i finally got the perfect droid 3 then my phone started boot looping .... so they are sending me another one i hope this one has the perfect screen and docent boot loop ... i also go the one were it was lose like some one drop it and had a light coming threw the screen when it was off ...... weried luck ....luckly a new phone is right around the corner
Man, sounds like you got stuck getting all the bad batch phones = / I'm really rough on my phone, and I've had none of these problems. Hopefully you can get a good one, cuz this phone is quite fantastic once rooted and rom'd. The only complaint I've ever had was the weak stock battery life, but even that isn't that bad since I've modded it.
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Yea that's what I'm thinking...I just got a really bad batch. I want to finally be able to keep just one and ROM it ASAP. Ughhhh
ajhallx said:
number 10 is in the mail ...Some thing happen with these phones before we got them that all i can say i keep having screen issues with every one it like a screen on speed wiggling pixels and gives me a headache i finally got the perfect droid 3 then my phone started boot looping .... so they are sending me another one i hope this one has the perfect screen and docent boot loop ... i also go the one were it was lose like some one drop it and had a light coming threw the screen when it was off ...... weried luck ....luckly a new phone is right around the corner
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You've replaced it just as many times as well huh? That's crazy.
the same thing happened with my droid x they all sucked they acutely had to send me a brand new one still in the box ....to fix the issues i was having ... lets just say thank God Verizon not selling cars there 100 point inspection test dosent work very well .. every time i call vzw they insure me it was put to the test i say well some one must of been blind because there is a light shining throw the screen when i just put the battery in it lol
Well I'm on the 6th, satisfied with this one so far. Most of them had the vibrate problem you mentioned. Some had light bleeding out of the screen near the softkeys. One the screen would randomly get distorted, almost like the top half of the screen was twisted and flipped around. And yes I do hear some squeaking on this one it's the back cover for mine anyway, taking it on and off too many times I assume.
Yea I'm not too sure about this 100-point inspection they keep referring to. How the hell do they miss something like what you mentioned...or an insanely squeeky/loose screen? Or even a 100% jammed screen that won't slide up? 100-point my ass.
Also, just to clarify...I absolutely love the Droid 3; I just want one that isn't jacked up. Even if they offered me a brand-new Bionic or something, I'd refuse. I love the D3, I just want one that isn't insanely jacked.
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Well I'm on the 6th, satisfied with this one so far. Most of them had the vibrate problem you mentioned. Some had light bleeding out of the screen near the softkeys. One the screen would randomly get distorted, almost like the top half of the screen was twisted and flipped around. And yes I do hear some squeaking on this one it's the back cover for mine anyway, taking it on and off too many times I assume.
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Oh yea, I forgot to mention that I've had the light-bleeding around the softkeys as well (specifically the last one I got, number 8). It was only on the bottom-right portion. Very noticeable and very annoying.
its sad becuse the razr looks nice but seems how i have had so many issues with droid x to droid x2 to droid 3 i think i am all out of spending my money on them but there attenna design is by far the best .... oh i am so torn ... i just miss 2 years ago having my droid in my hands .. life was good back then ...
I'm on my second, no issues at all.. After a 3rd replacement I would have *****ed to the point where they were sending me a new phone not a refurbished.
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I'm on my second, no issues at all.. After a 3rd replacement I would have *****ed to the point where they were sending me a new phone not a refurbished.
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I did, after the 6th. I got a supervisor and she was a real B-word. I tore her apart and she refused to send me a new one. Don't think they ever would, because I was on the phone with her for about 15 minutes and she refused.
believe me i have but they just changed there policy you can keep getting as many refurbish phones. it used to be after 5 they would try to get you into something else ... well lets see the offered me the charge and tunderbolt i exsplaned to them that the only comparable device to this dorid 3 is the bionic and they wont offer that .. i am not going to down grade a dul core with the crap of last year test market no thank you ...
Wow, you must have the luck of an Irish to receive this many defective phones consecutively.
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I'm on my second...first one had a lotta dust under the screen
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first one and ive dropped it so many times (ruggedized case *lol*) and i havent had any 'manufacturer' problems
Defect Looping?
My D3 has had no real problems other than what is common to a new phone (mostly software related) and occasional operator error. I cannot calculate the statistical probability against randomly receiving nine consecutive bad phones. Either someone has targeted you to receive all the junk ones or you live somewhere with frequent over-the-top EMPs (or maybe hell). With similar experiences with the other phones as well, you must be living under some kind of curse!
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My D3 has had no real problems other than what is common to a new phone (mostly software related) and occasional operator error. I cannot calculate the statistical probability against randomly receiving nine consecutive bad phones. Either someone has targeted you to receive all the junk ones or you live somewhere with frequent over-the-top EMPs (or maybe hell). With similar experiences with the other phones as well, you must be living under some kind of curse!
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Lmao. Well, considering they are all pre-owned "like new" devices...there is the probability that they were returned for the same reasons I'm returning them.
I get yet another one in the mail tomorrow...
Create a sob story and they send you a different phone. Its how i went from the droid x to the droid 3 without having an upgrade :] keep complaingin on the phone and say you want a different more reliable device thats in the same range. Then say something about the bionic {or differen phone} and they will give up and give it to you for free. just have to pay for a battery

New Sprint Update Today?

Received a notification of a fw update today on my Sprint Note 8. Anyone else get it and maybe know what all it contains?
Camera app improvements, and a KRACK fix. That's why it's small.
I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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Really? I love my Note8. By far the best phone I've ever had. Sprint cell signal has always been good where I am, and I'm almost always on WiFi anyway.
Got the Sprint OTA update N950USQU2BQJB a few days ago here in California which carried a security patch and Google Play Services update version 11.7.46 which has been terrible on my battery and particularly Pixel XL & OnePlus users as well as other devices according to online reports.
Have you updated to these versions and seen a dip In your battery life like many others have? And If so, have you seen a any difference in performance after updating your device with this last security patch update 'N950USQS2BQK3' rolled out by Sprint today (12/04/17) ?
Will this update 'N950USQS2BQK3' fix the issue of battery drain Sprint users have been experiencing in the past several weeks?
Thanks everyone.
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Really? I love my Note8. By far the best phone I've ever had. Sprint cell signal has always been good where I am, and I'm almost always on WiFi anyway.
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I'm between Baltimore and Washington DC. You would think an area so densely populated would have better service to accommodate the demand. We use a family locator app which was very good on our old phones (Note5 and S6). Now, I get an alert 20 minutes after someone arrives or leaves home.
Fortunately my employer supplies my with an iPad with date service thru Verizon
hebejebe said:
I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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SAME!!!! Im SO mad at myself for breaking down and getting this horrible phone because of the 50% off promotion and not getting the LG V30 which I originally wanted but had a hard time justifying $38 a month for it being a single mother of two kids on a very tight budget. This phone is CRAP. I talked to sprint last week, talked to 3 different agents and basically was told since I was out of my 14 day window to deal with it. I HATE Sprint just as much as I hate the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 on the Sprint Network. Apps constantly go into a locked spinning like Facebook and I have to force stop apps atleast 20 times a day. Calls dont come through. I constantly keep receiving a text stating "Messenger's enhanced features have been enabled" (Confirmation ID: different evertime) ....I get this text msg anwhere from 5-10 times a day. Ive had done everything the forums have suggested to fix my problems and NOTHING has worked. I have reprogrammed and factory reset and just doesnt get any better! Im beyond frustrated with paying for basically a brick with crappy service!!!
You folks have gotten some pretty nasty lemons. My Note8 has been 100% problem-free. And it's one of the first off the line, since I pre-ordered.
FWIW, I have had problems with calls and messages on Sprint in the past with other phones, and it was a problem at Sprint. I called customer service/technical support, they fixed something at their end, and everything worked after that. I don't know if that's what you're experiencing, but that's just a FWIW.
Mine has been problem free as well aside from one hiccup after a BD update. Other than that it has been flawless.
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SAME!!!! Im SO mad at myself for breaking down and getting this horrible phone because of the 50% off promotion and not getting the LG V30 which I originally wanted but had a hard time justifying $38 a month for it being a single mother of two kids on a very tight budget. This phone is CRAP. I talked to sprint last week, talked to 3 different agents and basically was told since I was out of my 14 day window to deal with it. I HATE Sprint just as much as I hate the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 on the Sprint Network. Apps constantly go into a locked spinning like Facebook and I have to force stop apps atleast 20 times a day. Calls dont come through. I constantly keep receiving a text stating "Messenger's enhanced features have been enabled" (Confirmation ID: different evertime) ....I get this text msg anwhere from 5-10 times a day. Ive had done everything the forums have suggested to fix my problems and NOTHING has worked. I have reprogrammed and factory reset and just doesnt get any better! Im beyond frustrated with paying for basically a brick with crappy service!!!
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Well that sucks . I've had it since a week before launch and the N8 is amazing. No lag problems, no service problems. First phone with android in 7 yrs I haven't rooted .
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1. This thread is about a firmware update, not whether or not you like your phone. Please stay on-topic.
2. Repeat flaming and trolling will be rewarded with infractions and banning per the forum rules.
Any thoughts on when the Oreo update is to drop?

Phone exploded (solved.)

Issue solved by Nokia/Hmd together with Mediamarkt Sweden with above and beyond kind of service,
They handled the issue quick and effective without any pressure from social media or newspapers. Kept me up to date with any type of progress in the matter.
And even let me replace the phone with another brands phone due to certain reasons, they also provided for extra accessories to the replacement phone even though it was another brand as well as putting out extra credit at the store of my choice for future purchases.
So my hat comes of for them for the 11 star of 5 stars maximum service
got real issue on my phone night between 23/24 july wich resulted in me and my girl waking up and in less then 1 min the appartement was smokefilled and the phone was like a blowtorchand we managed to toss it from a 3 floor window onto the street wbelow.
we ggot lucky that we ive in a small 1 bedroom appartment with a working smoke alarm just few meters away in the same room .
the phone is now seng in to nokia/hmd EU service center for inspectionon what went wrongwith the device.
and even though this happend i cant wait to get a replacement/new nokia 7plus since i realy loved the model.
hope they find anything fast if there is something wrong with it since the model in my eyes still is a greatphone
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got real issue on my phone night between 23/24 july wich resulted in me and my girl waking up and in less then 1 min the appartement was smokefilled and the phone was like a blowtorchand we managed to toss it from a 3 floor window onto the street wbelow.
we ggot lucky that we ive in a small 1 bedroom appartment with a working smoke alarm just few meters away in the same room .
the phone is now seng in to nokia/hmd EU service center for inspectionon what went wrongwith the device.
and even though this happend i cant wait to get a replacement/new nokia 7plus since i realy loved the model.
hope they find anything fast if there is something wrong with it since the model in my eyes still is a greatphone
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OMG ??????? what Nokia said?
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OMG what Nokia said?
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atm the phone is on the way to nokia/hmd main service in EU since they where extremly eager to check it out on what may have gone wrong and they helpedme to get a basic timeline by lots of questions so to see if there was any strange behaviour with the phone prior to the event
and as i understood this was basicaly a first for themwith this kind of event specially since it wasnt plugged in atm of the explosion . so i am waiting on reply from them for reciving and first checkup on the device.
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atm the phone is on the way to nokia/hmd main service in EU since they where extremly eager to check it out on what may have gone wrong and they helpedme to get a basic timeline by lots of questions so to see if there was any strange behaviour with the phone prior to the event
and as i understood this was basicaly a first for themwith this kind of event specially since it wasnt plugged in atm of the explosion . so i am waiting on reply from them for reciving and first checkup on the device.
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Oh yeah, didn't hear such a thing before. Please keep us updated. I'd like to know more about how they handle the issue and what information they provide about the root cause. Also, I'm glad they intervened and took notice of it without needing a special pressure from social media (which is the case for most brands).
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Sorry to hear that.
I've never heard of HMD Nokia Android Phone explosion incident before - at least in China, only battery bulging incident on overused Nokia 6.1.
Please keep this topic updated, we want to know their attitude upon this issue.
still no news from nokia/hmd other then they are putting everything under a microscope to try and find anything that might have gone wrong.
So update on this issue.
So far they couldn’t find anything wrong in design of the phone and or battery so it looks like it was just one of them crazy bad luck happening.
They still haven’t completely checked everything as I understood but they felt satisfied to close the matter on mud end and do more testing without me having to wait for all answers.
And the solution on the matter for me as I got. New phone and accessories like SD cards, cases, Custom screen covers, wireless headphones as well as a bunch of extra store credit for future purchases.
However due to demands from girlfriend that the same model of phone was not allowed inside ever again if I wanted to sleep in the same bed/apartment ever again I had to pick another model.
However since they didn’t have any similar phone model.
They came up with the suggestion of me picking from any brand of phone even from their competitors. So now I have bramd of phone and really happy with the solution in the end..
So to all that might be worried about this repeating itself don’t be.
Also even hat it took some time I am extremely happy with the solution in this matter as well as they will update me with any future findings in this matter.
Best service i ever experienced in a cellphone warranty issue.
Nokia/hmd gets 11 out of 10 stars for their handeling of the service around this issue.
what phone do you have now?
good to see them being this nice. But i guess they have to because, well, your phone exploded
I took a samsung A40 instead due to the fact that it was good enough for my current needs but I do miss my Nokia. But as My girlfriend Put in her veto against the Nokia 7plus model I didn’t have much choice.
Nokia’s work in the matter is the best I ever encountered when it comes to Customer service and I feel they took it extremely serious to find a solution on the matter and as I understood it was just a one time happening.
But I am happy with the new phone since it is quick software and takes decent photos, but I am going to miss the Nokia.

???????Update to Android 10??????

Just to start the thread on whether this amazing device will be getting it's update to Android 10. Razer have upgraded their first phone to Android 9 so hopefully we get the update to 10 on this device too. Who thinks that we should get the update??? Thoughts and opinions please
I really hope we get 10 but I'm not going to get my hopes up. I went all in with these phones purchased the RP1 not a year later got the Razer phone 2. First time I've ever purchased two phones so close together. I was hooked I just love the look of these phones everything about them is exactly what I want in a phone. At first the only complaint I had was lack of a truly black theme but I got over that. Then it took over a year for the RP1 to get 9.0. With barley any communication from Razer. Theme store is basically Dead nothing new no updates to it. I just feel kind of left out in the weather sure they down sized there mobile division but they should still be cranking out development for these two devices. That's just how I feel I'm sorry if this is the wrong place for it. I'd like to see screen recording added into the game booster app that's just one thing I can think of that other nongaming phones have that this one doesn't. There's no reason this phone or the RP1 shouldn't have at. Thanks
The screen cannot be discarded. But I have music needs, so I am going to throw rp2 home.
I have had both device's, the RP1 and the RP2. To my mind,these have been the best two devices I've ever owned. I've had HTCs and ZTEs in the past, and at least these have had updates. The first RP1 has gone up two full software iterations so I'm hoping that the RP2 will aswell. HTC sorta dropped the ball on its devices, and ZTE promised updates but made poor attempts at implementing them...at least RAZER have done theirs and finished them with promise

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