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Will I be able to get Pie on my P20 Pro?

Hello everyone,
I really want a P20 Pro. I'm in the U.S. and would be using the factory unlocked Canadian ( CLT-L04 ) version of the phone via AT&T. It's soo much trouble getting this phone in the States. One of the things I'm most concerned about is getting the Android Pie update. It's supposed to start rolling out on the 10th, and I cannot find a concrete answer if I will be able to get it on my device. Contacted Huawei via facebook and asked and this was their response...
" Regarding your concern about updates; please bear in mind that, all of our updates are rolled out in batches according to the IMEI number and geographical region. If you own an unlock device, it will take a little more time to get updates. When the update are released, the carriers are in charge to send the update OTA."
When the update are released, the carriers are in charge to send the update OTA - That part has me concerned. Since I'll be on AT&T and it's not an officially supported device by AT&T, it sounds to me that I won't be able to get the update.
Anybody else in the U.S. that could help provide some insight on this?
Thanks in advance,
Rob

worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.

RiTCHiE007 said:
worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.
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Thanks so much for the info! So the listing says this... "Only International items are Factory Unlocked without carrier logo and/or region lock." Without carrier logo I'm assuming means unbranded ( excuse my ignorance, I've never purchased a phone I couldn't just pick up in the store ) . So I should be able to get the Pie update without issue?

LonestarROB said:
Thanks so much for the info! So the listing says this... "Only International items are Factory Unlocked without carrier logo and/or region lock." Without carrier logo I'm assuming means unbranded ( excuse my ignorance, I've never purchased a phone I couldn't just pick up in the store ) . So I should be able to get the Pie update without issue?
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Yea seems like it and you can always flash some unbranded firmware tho if needed

Thanks! Sure hope you're right. Just purchased the last one the seller had.

Units sold by carriers in Canada are unlocked and unbranded. Mine is from Koodo/Telus and it's unlocked straight out of the box (it's the law in Canada) and doesn't have any carrier branding or carrier apps.
I think that as long as you are connected to the internet (mobile data or WiFi), you will get the update when a carrier releases it.
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TadMorose said:
Units sold by carriers in Canada are unlocked and unbranded. Mine is from Koodo/Telus and it's unlocked straight out of the box (it's the law in Canada) and doesn't have any carrier branding or carrier apps.
I think that as long as you are connected to the internet (mobile data or WiFi), you will get the update when a carrier releases it.
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That's the concern I have though. I'm not on a carrier ( At&t ) that carries this phone.
Now that I've ordered the phone, I'm having a hard time finding screen protectors and cases for it. Ones I like that is.

I have the same concern. I bought my P20 Pro by an importer, since here in Brazil it is not officially sold. I know the model is from Latin America because it is a CLT-L29 C605. But since I bought it, it just made an update and I'm still with the July update (8.1.0.152) since then.
So I'm in doubt if I'm actually getting the Pie right now on the 10th.
It's unlocked.
I'm loving the device, but it's sad to know that I have a smartphone released this year, last generation and I don't have updates support for it.

rafaelpc80 said:
I have the same concern. I bought my P20 Pro by an importer, since here in Brazil it is not officially sold. I know the model is from Latin America because it is a CLT-L29 C605. But since I bought it, it just made an update and I'm still with the July update (8.1.0.152) since then.
So I'm in doubt if I'm actually getting the Pie right now on the 10th.
It's unlocked.
I'm loving the device, but it's sad to know that I have a smartphone released this year, last generation and I don't have updates support for it.
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Well here's to the best of luck to both of us . Mines supposed to arrive tomorrow.

RiTCHiE007 said:
worst case is that you have to update it manually but that is pretty easy but i have no doubt that they will update every p20 pro to pie BUt it also depends on the carrier so getting a unlocked/unbranded device is a big plus for updates.
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Ignorance again as I've never ventured into this territory. Would you mind explaining how, if I don't get the update, to update it manually?

LonestarROB said:
Ignorance again as I've never ventured into this territory. Would you mind explaining how, if I don't get the update, to update it manually?
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Its not that hard so just read this article https://www.androidpit.com/firmware-updates-huawei-honor and i think there is a guide posted in the p20 pro section on this forum also

Thanks man!

LonestarROB said:
That's the concern I have though. I'm not on a carrier ( At&t ) that carries this phone.
Now that I've ordered the phone, I'm having a hard time finding screen protectors and cases for it. Ones I like that is.
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I'm almost 100% sure that once Canadian carriers push the update you'll get it to. Has nothing to do with the carrier your on, updates are IMEI and model related. So if it's say a Telus/Koodo phone, you'll get the update when they push it.
That's been my experience anyways.
Ps. I'm using the same phone on Koodo now.
You should be on firmware .120 correct?

Mr Patchy Patch said:
I'm almost 100% sure that once Canadian carriers push the update you'll get it to. Has nothing to do with the carrier your on, updates are IMEI and model related. So if it's say a Telus/Koodo phone, you'll get the update when they push it.
That's been my experience anyways.
Ps. I'm using the same phone on Koodo now.
You should be on firmware .120 correct?
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I'm not sure. Phone should be delivered today.

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I'm not sure. Phone should be delivered today.
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Check it when you get it.
But you'll be fine for updates.

So receiving the updates to the phone varies by the carrier? The carrier is the one that has to push the updates, like T-Mobile...?

ZeusftW97 said:
So receiving the updates to the phone varies by the carrier? The carrier is the one that has to push the updates, like T-Mobile...?
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Carriers push the updates yes. But say I buy a phone outright from Rogers and I use it on Telus...Rogers will push the updates to the phone, not the carrier I use it on. And I think it happens because the IMEI would originally be in the Rogers database.
This has happened to me several times now.

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Carriers push the updates yes. But say I buy a phone outright from Rogers and I use it on Telus...Rogers will push the updates to the phone, not the carrier I use it on. And I think it happens because the IMEI would originally be in the Rogers database.
This has happened to me several times now.
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My phone isnt branded, so I dont know what carrier it is... because I bought it off a tech-store.
And for network, I am from Macedonia and I use VIP-MK sim card, which, as you said VIP wouldnt push the updates because the phone isnt from there, I don't know from where they're getting the phones to their warehouses, haha.
I just got a new update tho, b159, hopefully I will get the newest update after I install this one. ^^

ZeusftW97 said:
My phone isnt branded, so I dont know what carrier it is... because I bought it off a tech-store.
And for network, I am from Macedonia and I use VIP-MK sim card, which, as you said VIP wouldnt push the updates because the phone isnt from there, I don't know from where they're getting the phones to their warehouses, haha.
I just got a new update tho, b159, hopefully I will get the newest update after I install this one. ^^
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Possible that if it's unbranded and belongs to no carrier that you'd receive the updates from Huawei servers?

Mr Patchy Patch said:
Possible that if it's unbranded and belongs to no carrier that you'd receive the updates from Huawei servers?
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I dont think so.
Because there are a lot of updates for my phone to firmware finder, which I think they're from Huawei's servers, right?
And since I boight my phone like a month ago, this is my first update. I was kinda stuck at 152 with July's security patches, and a while ago I received 159 with October's security patches. All I want to say by this is that if I'd receive the updates from Huawei, I'd have now the newest security patches, which is 161 version I think.
Who knows...that's just my opinion.

How do updates work with unlocked sim in different country?

So I live in Ireland, and I bought my P20 Pro on eBay from the UK. It was locked to EE, and so I got it unlocked. Eagerly waiting for EMUI 9.
I'm just wondering, how do updates work in this situation, since I'm not on EE anymore? Do I get updates from my new carrier, or do they come from Huawei from the IMEI number regardless of carrier? Or does it depend on whether I use HiCare, or System>update to update? I got the phone a few weeks ago, and a day or two later it updated itself to the October update 8.1.0.159(c782).
Do all carriers customise the updates themselves, eg, in each country, to add their own bloat and other stuff?
Does my new carrier even have my IMEI on file? Will they send me an update?
Just a bit confused by this, having unlocked a phone and using it in a different country..

I am interested as well. I am in the USA and we have 0 carrier support so not sure if i'll get any updates...

dudeimstoked said:
I am interested as well. I am in the USA and we have 0 carrier support so not sure if i'll get any updates...
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Yea, as I mentioned above, I got an update a few days after I got the phone, after I unlocked the sim, but I don't know if it came from Huawei or my new carrier. It was called the October update.
The phone was only first activated in the UK, in September, by the first owner, (and mid December, in Ireland, by me) but I don't know if the original owner used it much, if at all. The charger still had the plastic on it and the sim removal tool was still in place in the box. So I'm thinking it was maybe a gift or a work phone.
I'm guessing the update came from my Irish carrier, as otherwise the October update (159) would probably have happened soon after turning it on, but I didn't get it until after the sim was unlocked, which took a day or two.

Question on updates

Just ordered the International 6GB version this morning and I had a question about updates.
I've read that different versions can get their updates at different times., and that sometimes a particular version might be well behind the others. I'm wondering if I should flash the U.S. firmware when I get the phone or if it's better to leave it with the one it comes with.
I'm on Straight Talk (using AT&T towers), so I'm not getting any of the VoLTE service in any regard, so the only reason to do this would be to get a firmware that has timely updates.
Any thought from those who've had the phone for a while?

I would leave it as is unless your compelled to change it. I'm on the H9493 TW version and still on February's patch. Some regions have moved to March already. It will come in the next few weeks.

augie7107 said:
I would leave it as is unless your compelled to change it. I'm on the H9493 TW version and still on February's patch. Some regions have moved to March already. It will come in the next few weeks.
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Thanks for the reply. I had heard that the H9493 was a bit behind in other regions, but if it's only by a few weeks or so then I'm not too concerned. If it was more like a couple of months behind, then I would maybe look at flashing another region's firmware.
Looking forward to getting the phone. Was really tempted to last year, but the price kept me away. Now though, I picked up a brand new one on Amazon for only $629, which I believe is still cheaper than the U.S. model, surprisingly!).

I flashed the US firmware when I received mine (mainly for the T-Mobile VoLTE) and it gets updated pretty quickly. It has been a week or more since the March update came. Other than somewhat faster updates, I'm not sure if there will be any benefits for you though.

ryotaru said:
I flashed the US firmware when I received mine (mainly for the T-Mobile VoLTE) and it gets updated pretty quickly. It has been a week or more since the March update came. Other than somewhat faster updates, I'm not sure if there will be any benefits for you though.
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Yeah, I'm thinking I'll just hold off, since it sounds like the updates come fairly quickly, even if not at exactly the same time.

Well, we're a week into May and I'm still on the February patch.
Got to say, I'm not too impressed with Sony's update policy, at least for this version of the phone. Here's hoping something comes through sooner rather than later.

H9493 TW is already on the April patch
52.0.A.8.25

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H9493 TW is already on the April patch
52.0.A.8.25
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My phone still shows me on 52.0.A.3.202 with no updates available.

Geese1 said:
My phone still shows me on 52.0.A.3.202 with no updates available.
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If it's the TW H9493 then something is up.
I received 52.0.A.8.14 on April 10 and 52.0.A.8.25 on April 30, both OTA

augie7107 said:
If it's the TW H9493 then something is up.
I received 52.0.A.8.14 on April 10 and 52.0.A.8.25 on April 30, both OTA
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Yes, it's the H9493. I haven't received any updates since the initial one when I first got the phone.

Geese1 said:
Yes, it's the H9493. I haven't received any updates since the initial one when I first got the phone.
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You must have the HK variant

augie7107 said:
You must have the HK variant
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Which, I take it, operates on a different update schedule than the rest of the H9693 models?
What a mess. If I didn't already have the phone set up the way I'd like, I'd just install a different regions firmware. Still may have to think about doing that as it doesn't look like I'll get any updates anytime soon.

They are all over the place with them because some get held up based on region. I had a few HK variants over the years and they did eventually catch up. The OEM updates frequently but the methodology is fractured.

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They are all over the place with them because some get held up based on region. I had a few HK variants over the years and they did eventually catch up. The OEM updates frequently but the methodology is fractured.
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Thanks for the info. I still may flash a different regional firmware if I have time this weekend. While it's a pain, it might be the best thing in order to get timely updates. I'll have to research the method to do it (I believe you can do it using Sony's own software), and whether this will wipe the microSD card as well as the phone data.

Sony software will only flash same regional software. You will need to use Newflasher. Read the instructions, it's not difficult..

augie7107 said:
Sony software will only flash same regional software. You will need to use Newflasher. Read the instructions, it's not difficult..
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Thanks, I'll look into it.

Pixel 5 OTA monthly update

When will we get the December security update, Samsung got thirs before us

google drop it on the first monday of every month unless it's a public holiday in the US i.e. september (labor day) which is then a tuesday (i.e. when android 10 last year and 11 this year dropped)
Usually 2/3pm eastern (7/8pm UTC)

Thanx

Its available now at https://developers.google.com/android/ota

Once again Verizon update delayed a week until the 14th.

Just got December security update

For clarification because my unlocked 3XL OTAs never had separate carrier updates like this: the Verizon update is for ALL phones (unlocked and VZ locked) on the Verizon network?
If so, does this have to do with the mmwave 5G network configuration?

Locked AT&T Pixel 5 - installing now.

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Once again Verizon update delayed a week until the 14th.
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This is ridiculous. On my unlocked Pixel 2 XL i never had to wait on vzw. I always got updates the same time all other pixels go them.
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For clarification because my unlocked 3XL OTAs never had separate carrier updates like this: the Verizon update is for ALL phones (unlocked and VZ locked) on the Verizon network?
If so, does this have to do with the mmwave 5G network configuration?
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Yes, I believe I read that was the reason a few weeks ago.

On Visible, still no update yet.

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On Visible, still no update yet.
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Same, but what makes you think its carrier dependent? Visible phones are the same as ones sold by Google and/or Bestbuy as unlocked. I am thinking to download the "RQ1A.201205.011" from Google and ADB-sideload it via recovery, but kinda waiting to see if nobody has just done this and had nasty consequences, such as data wipe, bootloops, etc. I am not eager to hard-reset.

So I updated to the december security patch and after I flashed my magisk patched boot.img the battery icon in the status bar is acting weird. It looks empty with no white in the middle, anyone else getting this?
EDIT: NEVERMIND, found out the issue was my 9 tiles magisk module, after removing the battery icon was back to normal.

Ali988 said:
When will we get the December security update, Samsung got thirs before us
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I got the OTA update yesterday.

You can follow the Release of OTA Updates here https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/stock-ota-updates-changelogs-07-12-2020.4185209/
I Update the thread/OP only after the Update is available usually within an hour after Google published it

I'm a bit confused by the various carrier flavors of OTA -- I purchased my (unlocked) pixel 5 from the google store but I use ATT for carrier service.
Will flashing the ATT flavor lock my device in some capacity? Or is that just for radio?
Thank you!!

SwimDrewid said:
I'm a bit confused by the various carrier flavors of OTA -- I purchased my (unlocked) pixel 5 from the google store but I use ATT for carrier service.
Will flashing the ATT flavor lock my device in some capacity? Or is that just for radio?
Thank you!!
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Good question, i'd usually assume ROM doesn't affect SIM lock in any way or form, but i'd be reluctant to flash an update that contains a carrier junk in it, and possibly a locked bootloader i may end up being unable to reflash again.
I really don't think the ROM you flash should depend on the carrier you are currently on, and i wouldn't flash a carrier-customized one.
Why would you want to flash the ATT version on it?

I have the VZW version and it sucks they aren't releasing the update till next week. What is in the build that's different from the non-vzw versions? Hate vzw but the black friday deal was too good to pass up.

Anybody knows anything about any fixes and functional changes besides the feature drop? Each month, Google lists the Pixel specific fixes like this:
Google Android Pixel Security Update - November 2020 - Google Pixel Community
support.google.com
This month, the accoring page just talks about "several fixes and improvements across many areas including performance, stability, battery, and more":
Google Android Pixel Security Update - December 2020 - Google Pixel Community
support.google.com
I am really interested in knowing wether the infamous "GPay payments fail" issue was fixed for the P5.

If I bought the unlocked Pixel 5 from the google store and have verizon as my carrier, which OTA should I sideload?

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If I bought the unlocked Pixel 5 from the google store and have verizon as my carrier, which OTA should I sideload?
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The one that's coming on 14.12.2020. Verizon builds are always a week behind.

Question CARRIER SAYS PHONE IS LOCKED BUT IT'S STILL USABLE

So I posted earlier about not getting OTA updates. Turns out apparently my phone is locked by Verizon as both they and Samsung have confirmed. What's weird for me however, is that I can still use my phone. I don't get any regional lock errors when I place my new simcard in. It works perfectly actually. Only problem I'm having is with the OTA updates. Does anyone know if it's possible to have your phone locked by a carrier but still be able to use it? If so, is it possible to unlock the phone without going through Verizon's 60 day period of network use? Looking online, all these sites keep talking about sending an unlock code. My phone doesn't request one so don't know what to do.

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So I posted earlier about not getting OTA updates. Turns out apparently my phone is locked by Verizon as both they and Samsung have confirmed. What's weird for me however, is that I can still use my phone. I don't get any regional lock errors when I place my new simcard in. It works perfectly actually. Only problem I'm having is with the OTA updates. Does anyone know if it's possible to have your phone locked by a carrier but still be able to use it? If so, is it possible to unlock the phone without going through Verizon's 60 day period of network use? Looking online, all these sites keep talking about sending an unlock code. My phone doesn't request one so don't know what to do.
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Hi
I'm not an expert on this but I did see this (for S20 but looks a similar situation):
Sim unlocked but OTA updates not
Hello everyone. I just bought what I thought it was an unlocked S20 Ultra over the internet and, nevertheless my sim card form my country works well (Im from México) the OTA updates dont work. The last security update it has is from March 2020...
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Mike

MikeChannon said:
Hi
I'm not an expert on this but I did see this (for S20 but looks a similar situation):
Sim unlocked but OTA updates not
Hello everyone. I just bought what I thought it was an unlocked S20 Ultra over the internet and, nevertheless my sim card form my country works well (Im from México) the OTA updates dont work. The last security update it has is from March 2020...
forum.xda-developers.com
Mike
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Thanks for the reply Sir. I looked into it and yeah that is my exact issue. So I'll just go with the option to flash the latest update. What I wanted to know now is, since I've missed SOOOOOOO many of the previous new software updates, should I just fast forward to the latest or start one at a time?
Mine's also the Verizon model. I can't find the firmware update for SM-G998U but I read somewhere that it's alright to flash the SM-G998U1 Verizon update. Only problem is I'll lose all my data. Do you happen to know anything about that?

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Thanks for the reply Sir. I looked into it and yeah that is my exact issue. So I'll just go with the option to flash the latest update. What I wanted to know now is, since I've missed SOOOOOOO many of the previous new software updates, should I just fast forward to the latest or start one at a time?
Mine's also the Verizon model. I can't find the firmware update for SM-G998U but I read somewhere that it's alright to flash the SM-G998U1 Verizon update. Only problem is I'll lose all my data. Do you happen to know anything about that?
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Well I don't know but maybe someone in this Galaxy S21 Ultra forum will know.
Mike

Thanks for the help