PSA: Unlocked Pixel 5 compatibility on Verizon - good news - Google Pixel 5 Questions & Answers

Yes, you can unlock the bootloader but you do have to do the same trick to unlock the bootloaders on the OG Pixels by blowing through the setup and not inserting your until after the bootloader is unlocked.
Yes, carrier services work, not sure about video calling, but I am sure it will come on in time. VoLTE/Vo5G ( the tech that allows for you to use the internet while on a call) and WiFi calling does work; My Best Buy rep said carrier services would not work, but here we are.
Yes, 5G does still work.
I couldn't find a straight answer for those questions; so here we are.
How I found out:
After my beloved Pixel 3a XL started to give up the ghost, I began my search for a new phone. I wanted it to work on 5G and be able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon as my carrier (it's paid for) and as I did some more research, I found out that only Verizon created phones would work with their 5G network; ultra wide band. I know they love to lock down their phones from consumers in the name of security, so it seemed like every device I looked at either had an non-unlockable bootloader or it would not work on Verizon's 5G. However, after attempting to order a 4a 5G, I accidentally clicked on the Pixel 5 listing and then I noticed in the print of the carrier selection, it doesn't state that the Pixel 5 unlocked won't work with Verizon's 5G, unlike the unlocked Pixel 4a's note saying it will not work on Verizon 5G. So I bit a bullet and spent $726 at Best Buy to test a theory. After picking up the phone, I blew through the setup, not putting in my sim nor entering in any google account info and went straight into enabling OEM unlocking. I did have to connect to WiFi and then reboot. After the reboot and a few minutes, I was able to turn the OEM unlocking switch to on. I unlocked the boot loader and was able to proceed to setting up the phone normally. After setting up the phone, I drove over to a part of town that I knew had 5G, and low and behold, everything worked. Even VoLTE (or Vo5G now?) and WiFi calling works. I am unsure about video carrier calling however, I know that can take some time to pop up. I believe this is the only 5G compatible phone on Verizon that can unlock the bootloader at this time, however, this price tag is not worth it for me. I am going to wait until 5G is more wide spread, then I will consider upgrading.

Every single Pixel 5 sold in the US will connect to Verizon 5G Ultra Wideband. When you say unlocked do you mean bootloader unlocked or carrier unlocked? If you bought a Verizon or carrier locked P5 at BB then no matter what you do you cannot bootloader unlock. So you probably got an unlocked device (as per the price you paid) and you can both bl unlock and connect to any network. There was no need to so the wifi thing you did because you could always bl unlock a carrier unlocked device.
Of course the 4a will not work with 5G. It's not a 5G compatible phone. Once again, any 5G Pixel phone sold in the US, the P5 or the P4a 5G, will connect to UW Band Verizon network if you use them as your carrier.

Can I use both T-Mobile and verizon 5G at the same time , as I presently do on my Iphone on an unlocked pixel 5

themarinesurveyor said:
Can I use both T-Mobile and verizon 5G at the same time , as I presently do on my Iphone on an unlocked pixel 5
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Yes.

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reagan1998 said:
Yes, you can unlock the bootloader but you do have to do the same trick to unlock the bootloaders on the OG Pixels by blowing through the setup and not inserting your until after the bootloader is unlocked.
Yes, carrier services work, not sure about video calling, but I am sure it will come on in time. VoLTE/Vo5G ( the tech that allows for you to use the internet while on a call) and WiFi calling does work; My Best Buy rep said carrier services would not work, but here we are.
Yes, 5G does still work.
I couldn't find a straight answer for those questions; so here we are.
How I found out:
After my beloved Pixel 3a XL started to give up the ghost, I began my search for a new phone. I wanted it to work on 5G and be able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon as my carrier (it's paid for) and as I did some more research, I found out that only Verizon created phones would work with their 5G network; ultra wide band. I know they love to lock down their phones from consumers in the name of security, so it seemed like every device I looked at either had an non-unlockable bootloader or it would not work on Verizon's 5G. However, after attempting to order a 4a 5G, I accidentally clicked on the Pixel 5 listing and then I noticed in the print of the carrier selection, it doesn't state that the Pixel 5 unlocked won't work with Verizon's 5G, unlike the unlocked Pixel 4a's note saying it will not work on Verizon 5G. So I bit a bullet and spent $726 at Best Buy to test a theory. After picking up the phone, I blew through the setup, not putting in my sim nor entering in any google account info and went straight into enabling OEM unlocking. I did have to connect to WiFi and then reboot. After the reboot and a few minutes, I was able to turn the OEM unlocking switch to on. I unlocked the boot loader and was able to proceed to setting up the phone normally. After setting up the phone, I drove over to a part of town that I knew had 5G, and low and behold, everything worked. Even VoLTE (or Vo5G now?) and WiFi calling works. I am unsure about video carrier calling however, I know that can take some time to pop up. I believe this is the only 5G compatible phone on Verizon that can unlock the bootloader at this time, however, this price tag is not worth it for me. I am going to wait until 5G is more wide spread, then I will consider upgrading.
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Can you kindly provide the instructions to unlock the bootloader for verizon phone?

hamooz92 said:
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Can you kindly provide the instructions to unlock the bootloader for verizon phone?
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You can't unlock the bootloader on any Verizon branded device since the Pixel 3

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Can't Activate Note8, fails on configuration with Sprint & Boom Mobile

Hi Guys, I'm wondering if someone more knowledgeable can help advise. I've spent 12 hours and cant activate my Unlocked Qualcomm Note8 on any of my service providers (SMN-950U1.)
I want to use it on Boom Mobile Red (Verizon MVNO)
I cant get the Network Operator to configure, when I select Verizon it fails on configuration. I'm not referring to APN because I do not even get calls, the Operator is listed as "Emergency Calls Only". The Sim works perfect on my Pixel XL and iPhone 7 Plus. This phone was purchased unlocked form Samsung direct with clean IMEI. I called Samsung and they have no idea, they said the phone is defective, which I believe it is not.
I had an issue activating with Sprint and still have not had Data working, though I was able to get calls. I've given up w/ Sprint and will upgrade that line with a iPhone X.
I inserted my friends Verizon Post Paid Sim from his Moto Mod phone and everything was perfect (calls, TM, LTE calling) and the phone got LTE+. Is it possible the Note8 unlocked will only work with the big 4 carriers, ST and TW? I read a similar issue people from Boost Mobile have when they insert their sims it says invalid Sim. I really have no idea what is going on - Boom doesn't have many customers and their support team has never delt with this issue, they said the phone is defective. Has anyone been able to use a Unlocked Note8 on Boom? I've tried flashing various variants of firmware, including Verizon with no success. I'm puzzled with what is going on.

Any luck using the Verizon Samsung S10 5G on google fi?

I have tried unlocking it, an it is unlocked, but every-time I try to use it, it connects for like 20 seconds, then I get a message that the device cannot be activated on a different carrier than Verizon, I am travelling abroad, and would like to use a local SIM card.
thank you!!
Did you buy it new, had it been activated on Verizon for 24hrs, that's what I've seen that it needs to be activated first on Verizon then it works.

network change firmware

So running the latest software it seems no need to flash firmware for carriers when you place an actual carrier sim in the splash screen and everything automatically switches to sim...I have a note 8 and a note 9 one cricket one metro since note 9 has band 71 I wanted to try metro in it and utilize that but ofcourse finding out metro locks service to imei unlike cricket does where any phone unlocked will work..but although I couldn't use my metro on my note 9 it did change splash screen and showed the wifi calling which I cant use wifi calling but i am able to hotspot again so that's the bonus for everyone on cricket needing hotspot again try popping in a tmobile or metro sim it holds even after restarting...correct me if I'm wrong on the firmware automatically switching cause the note 9 is a verizon bought phone and had been showing verizon splash screen....diagnose further when I buy new sim to tie note 9 to metro since they apparently pair sim and imei...
Terasman210 said:
So running the latest software it seems no need to flash firmware for carriers when you place an actual carrier sim in the splash screen and everything automatically switches to sim...I have a note 8 and a note 9 one cricket one metro since note 9 has band 71 I wanted to try metro in it and utilize that but ofcourse finding out metro locks service to imei unlike cricket does where any phone unlocked will work..but although I couldn't use my metro on my note 9 it did change splash screen and showed the wifi calling which I cant use wifi calling but i am able to hotspot again so that's the bonus for everyone on cricket needing hotspot again try popping in a tmobile or metro sim it holds even after restarting...correct me if I'm wrong on the firmware automatically switching cause the note 9 is a verizon bought phone and had been showing verizon splash screen....diagnose further when I buy new sim to tie note 9 to metro since they apparently pair sim and imei...
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all us devices contain all carrier's csc.
bober10113 said:
all us devices contain all carrier's csc.
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It's kind of new to me but I guess the take away for anyone is I've lost my hotspot capability on cricket when I switched to note 9 from note 8 cause changing the apn didn't work with new software like I did with note 8....and now i have regained that on note 9 which was bought through verizon also I'm able to utilize dialer codes again where I lost that too...so if your on cricket or something like that and lost those abilities then just pop in a metro or tmobile sim and restart phone then put your cricket sim back in and your good to go with hotspot and dialer codes again....I just wish cricket didn't whitelist phones capable of using volte where I could get that on my note 9 cause 3g calling has definitely went downhill with low to no coverage anymore on it...my real question is this everyone is talking about flashing the carrier csc to whatever carrier you going to so you have the best and all their perks just seems with latest updates there's no need for it like my note 9 has band 71 but while on verizon I'm sure they disable that band because it's not needed so it seems when you swap sims and forced to restart because new sim is detected and you put a tmobile sim in it automatically turns correct radio bands on for its network...correct or not because I want tmobile just need to know band 71 will be activated when I put a tmobile sim in this verizon bought note 9 and I'll be able to utilize their full network spectrum...cause metro by tmobile apparently only utilises band 2 and band 12 which cuts my coverage...sorry for the long read

Activate Wi-Fi Calling on 4XL via command? I've seen it...

Wi-Fi calling is no longer working on my 4XL. I have Verizon on an unlocked 4XL.
The options are completely missing. I've spent over 4 hours on the phone with Verizon tier 2 tech support and gotten nowhere. They insist that Wi-Fi calling is active on my account/line and that its an issue on my phone.
I should mention I have a dual SIM setup running both Verizon and T-Mobile, T-Mobile is an eSIM. That said BOTH worked fine until I popped my Verizon SIM into a Verizon Mi-Fi and the SIM from the Mi-FI into my 4XL.
Verizon said they could see the two units reprovisioned but as far as Wi-Fi calling on the 4XL, it's active and SHOULD work but its almost like the Verizon software is blocking it the settings from even showing. I have NO options for Wi-Fi calling under the phone settings anywhere, they are gone but I do still see them for the T-Mobile eSim.
I remember back in the day Verizon blocked Wi-Fi calling on Pixel devices that were unlocked and or not Verizon branded. There was a command-line you could run to "unhide" the settings and turn them on.
Does anyone have anything like this for the 4XL? Verizon said I may need to completely factory wipe my 4XL but I have it setup perfectly, I really do not want to do that if possible.
Thanks!
I use 2 SIMs as well. My T-Mobile account is ESIM and my Visible is physical sim. I have no issues with WiFi calling on both. I attached a screenshot, do you see the same menus as me? Also, is your Google pixel the Google store variant or a carrier?
Here is my TMobile settings.

T-Mobile Revvlry Plus XT1965-T: About Network Unlocking (please help)

Hello,
I have just acquired a new (never used) T-Mobile Revvlry Plus XT1965-T, and it seems to be network locked. (Note: I was able to get an OEM unlock code from Motorola, haven't tried it yet, but right now I am only asking about the network lock issue.)
My goal is to install LineageOS 18.1, and use this phone with other mobile service providers in Canada.
I want to understand how to deal with the network lock, and get past it -- I have some questions...
1. If I simply follow the official instructions for installing LineageOS, will this result in a network unlocked phone?
2. If just installing LineageOS won't remove the network lock, why is that? How is the network lock implemented on this phone?
3. Is there any way to clear the network lock, without going through T-Mobile?
4. If I must go through T-Mobile and use their unlock app, I assume that I had better do this before I do anything else, and once the phone is network unlocked using T-Mobile's app, then the phone will remain network unlocked after installing LineageOS, is this correct?
5. I get the impression that there are actually two different phones with the same model number XT1965-T, being the T-Mobile version and the Motorola version, is that right? What are the main differences?
Any other comments, insights, or links are also appreciated. Please keep in mind that while I am highly technical, I am not an expert on Android or smartphones.
Thanks.
opensourceforever said:
Hello,
I have just acquired a new (never used) T-Mobile Revvlry Plus XT1965-T, and it seems to be network locked. (Note: I was able to get an OEM unlock code from Motorola, haven't tried it yet, but right now I am only asking about the network lock issue.)
My goal is to install LineageOS 18.1, and use this phone with other mobile service providers in Canada.
I want to understand how to deal with the network lock, and get past it -- I have some questions...
1. If I simply follow the official instructions for installing LineageOS, will this result in a network unlocked phone?
2. If just installing LineageOS won't remove the network lock, why is that? How is the network lock implemented on this phone?
3. Is there any way to clear the network lock, without going through T-Mobile?
4. If I must go through T-Mobile and use their unlock app, I assume that I had better do this before I do anything else, and once the phone is network unlocked using T-Mobile's app, then the phone will remain network unlocked after installing LineageOS, is this correct?
5. I get the impression that there are actually two different phones with the same model number XT1965-T, being the T-Mobile version and the Motorola version, is that right? What are the main differences?
Any other comments, insights, or links are also appreciated. Please keep in mind that while I am highly technical, I am not an expert on Android or smartphones.
Thanks.
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1. No, network lock is related to the carrier. If it's a TMO Revvlry+/Revvlry Plus, then it's locked to T-Mobile. This means it can't be used with another carrier essentially. Network lock again just means if a TMO sim is installed (and it's locked to TMO) it will work. If another carrier sim is installed and it's network locked, the sim won't function.
2. If the phone came from TMO, they would lock it to their system.
3. Removing the network lock allows other carriers to be used. There are pay to use services that will network unlock the device within 24 hours. Manual methods exist, but will require more in-depth knowledge. Otherwise, TMO is the one to network unlock it but could take 30 days and may require service with them.
4. Once unlocked it should remain unlocked, regardless of stock or custom ROM.
5. The TMO Revvlry+ (Revvlry Plus) and Moto G7 Plus are the same devices hardware wise. The main difference is the boot animation and logo branding. The Moto G7 Plus is also carrier unlocked.
How did you determine the phone is network locked?
Is the phone tied to a network carrier already?
What is the output from https://www.wipelock.com/iphone-carrier-checker?
jockovonred said:
1. No, network lock is related to the carrier. If it's a TMO Revvlry+/Revvlry Plus, then it's locked to T-Mobile. This means it can't be used with another carrier essentially. Network lock again just means if a TMO sim is installed (and it's locked to TMO) it will work. If another carrier sim is installed and it's network locked, the sim won't function.
2. If the phone came from TMO, they would lock it to their system.
3. Removing the network lock allows other carriers to be used. There are pay to use services that will network unlock the device within 24 hours. Manual methods exist, but will require more in-depth knowledge. Otherwise, TMO is the one to network unlock it but could take 30 days and may require service with them.
4. Once unlocked it should remain unlocked, regardless of stock or custom ROM.
5. The TMO Revvlry+ (Revvlry Plus) and Moto G7 Plus are the same devices hardware wise. The main difference is the boot animation and logo branding. The Moto G7 Plus is also carrier unlocked.
How did you determine the phone is network locked?
Is the phone tied to a network carrier already?
What is the output from https://www.wipelock.com/iphone-carrier-checker?
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Thanks for your reply, here is some background...
I bought several of these phones on eBay, they were advertised as network unlocked Moto G7 Plus phones, but the seller instead shipped me network locked T-Mobile Revvly+ phones.
My first step was to test a SIM chip from a local mobile provider, and the phones show a message saying they are SIM locked.
The phones are clearly new and unused. The seller claims they are open-box returns.
I called T-Mobile, and T-Mobile says these phones are registered to active accounts, and they can only be unlocked if the account holder requests it. T-Mobile reps also say they are unable to identify the account holder, and offer no solution. The phones are not blacklisted or reported stolen. If I had to guess: most likely, the phones were purchased, activated, and returned to the store, but the T-Mobile account registration was not cleared in their database.
It seems that these phones use an unlock app, rather than an unlock code, and from what I've read, it may not be possible for any third-party unlocking service to unlock these particular phones.
Getting back to my questions in my original post:
- How is the network lock implemented on this phone? (I mean this question from a technical perspective)
- Is there any way to clear the network lock, without going through T-Mobile?
The network lock must be a setting somewhere in the firmware... I've heard people talk about flashing the baseband, but not being a phone expert, I don't know much about that, or if it might apply here...
So again, I am asking: is there some way to network unlock these phones, and make them usable with another service provider? Can I somehow just reflash whatever area in the phone holds the network lock setting with stock code that doesn't have the network lock setting enabled?
Thanks.
opensourceforever said:
the seller instead shipped me network locked T-Mobile Revvly+ phones.
I called T-Mobile, and T-Mobile says these phones are registered to active accounts, and they can only be unlocked if the account holder requests it. T-Mobile reps also say they are unable to identify the account holder, and offer no solution. The phones are not blacklisted or reported stolen. If I had to guess: most likely, the phones were purchased, activated, and returned to the store, but the T-Mobile account registration was not cleared in their database.
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If they are registered and active, they may have to wait out the time period from T-Mobile to be Network SIM unlocked, depending on when they were originally purchased by the original owner.
If they were returned to the store, how did the eBay seller obtain them?
It seems that these phones use an unlock app, rather than an unlock code, and from what I've read, it may not be possible for any third-party unlocking service to unlock these particular phones.
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If an unlock app is needed, this may be built into the phones firmware that only T-Mobile can use. It may still require a code to be passed to the unlock app.
Getting back to my questions in my original post:
- How is the network lock implemented on this phone? (I mean this question from a technical perspective)
- Is there any way to clear the network lock, without going through T-Mobile?
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It's implemented by T-Mobile. T-Mobile is going to be your best shot. You may have to make multiple calls to get through to someone where you can explain the situation and see if they will network unlock the phone.
The network lock must be a setting somewhere in the firmware... I've heard people talk about flashing the baseband, but not being a phone expert, I don't know much about that, or if it might apply here...
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Baseband typically indicates the frequencies the phone can use to communicate with different networks. If you take a nandroid of the phone, you can always try to flash a new baseband and test. If it doesn't work, restore back.
So again, I am asking: is there some way to network unlock these phones, and make them usable with another service provider? Can I somehow just reflash whatever area in the phone holds the network lock setting with stock code that doesn't have the network lock setting enabled?
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You can try to flash the T-Mobile Revvlry+ into a Moto G7 Plus: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/revvlry-to-moto-g7-plus-conversion-guide.4136355/ That would get rid of the T-Mobile software. It's not clear if that would remove the network SIM lock, but if you take a nandroid backup, you can always revert back.
EDIT: I was doing some additional research, and flashing the modems/baseband or converting the TMO Revvlry+ to Moto G7 Plus won't affect the network SIM lock. The app is in the TMO software and you'll have to use that app with the code either TMO provides or an unlock service gives to network SIM unlock the device.
EDIT2: After booting into the phone, do you have the options in the following settings: SIM unlock phone. This link is only for info and reference: use any network provider’s SIM card in T-Mobile REVVLRY+
Hi, thank you again for your reply.
jockovonred said:
If they are registered and active, they may have to wait out the time period from T-Mobile to be Network SIM unlocked, depending on when they were originally purchased by the original owner.
If they were returned to the store, how did the eBay seller obtain them?
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As mentioned, the phones are clearly brand new and never used.
I would also like to know how the seller obtained them, unfortunately the seller is non-cooperative.
T-Mobile is also curious about how the seller obtained them.
jockovonred said:
It's implemented by T-Mobile. T-Mobile is going to be your best shot. You may have to make multiple calls to get through to someone where you can explain the situation and see if they will network unlock the phone.
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I may try this again, but I have already spent hours talking to T-Mobile Technical Support with no progress made.
jockovonred said:
You can try to flash the T-Mobile Revvlry+ into a Moto G7 Plus: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/revvlry-to-moto-g7-plus-conversion-guide.4136355/ That would get rid of the T-Mobile software. It's not clear if that would remove the network SIM lock, but if you take a nandroid backup, you can always revert back.
EDIT: I was doing some additional research, and flashing the modems/baseband or converting the TMO Revvlry+ to Moto G7 Plus won't affect the network SIM lock. The app is in the TMO software and you'll have to use that app with the code either TMO provides or an unlock service gives to network SIM unlock the device.
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I am still not clear as to why the phones can not be unlocked by replacing certain firmware/software. The lock is a setting somewhere on the phone, why can this setting not just be manually changed/cleared?
jockovonred said:
EDIT2: After booting into the phone, do you have the options in the following settings: SIM unlock phone. This link is only for info and reference: use any network provider’s SIM card in T-Mobile REVVLRY+
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When I go to the menu: "Settings > Network & Internet > Mobile network", all further options are grayed out.
As such, I am not able to reach the option: "Settings > Network & Internet > Mobile network > Advanced > Network Unlock > Permanent Unlock" as shown at the link you provided.
(For reference: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...revvlry/mobile-device-unlock-t-mobile-revvlry)
Any further suggestions/advice much appreciated, I would really like to be able to make use of these phones.
opensourceforever said:
I am still not clear as to why the phones can not be unlocked by replacing certain firmware/software. The lock is a setting somewhere on the phone, why can this setting not just be manually changed/cleared?
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The app is provided via TMobile. This is not provided via software/firmware except by TMO.
Your best bet at this point is to try a pay to unlock service that will provide instructions on unlocking the SIM, if TMO is unwilling to do it.
(Modems change the baseband used by different providers so changing/updating it via firmware isn't going to unlock the SIM/Network. If you get the SIM/Network unlocked and THEN have an issue with a network carrier, flashing the correct modem for that provider would allow the SIM/Network to communicate.)
opensourceforever said:
When I go to the menu: "Settings > Network & Internet > Mobile network", all further options are grayed out.
As such, I am not able to reach the option: "Settings > Network & Internet > Mobile network > Advanced > Network Unlock > Permanent Unlock" as shown at the link you provided.
(For reference: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/de...revvlry/mobile-device-unlock-t-mobile-revvlry)
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Do have service with TMO? If not, you might try getting a SIM/Network card from them and inserting it to see if the in-phone options appear so you can unlock it. You might also try escalating the issue with TMO if you are only getting to first line technical support personnel.
The phone is obviously locked to TMO as it's a TMO phone. It's different than the Moto G7 Plus which is already unlocked for all carriers. If you can't get the phone Network/SIM unlocked, maybe return it to the eBay seller and look for the Moto G7 Plus which will give you less headaches.

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