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Should I wait for the Mi Mix2 or buy the original?

I've always wanted the Mi Mix and now the prices are dropping I'm seriously considering getting one. One of the main advantages of MIUI is getting constant updates no matter the model so I'm not really concerned if it has Nougat or not. Of course the Mix2 would probably be the preferred improved device, but the price will be ridiculous for the first few months.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
P.S. I'm not a modder and it will remain stock and unrooted.

I might get one too. What's the best price right now?

mscion said:
I might get one too. What's the best price right now?
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They're on Ali Express for between $470-490 for the 4gb model but I want to use PayPal. Banggood seem to have the best price at $539 for the 6gb model (with PayPal).

I picked one up on Swappa recently so I wouldn't have to wait for shipping. For $500, I'm very happy. The Mix 2 almost certainly will be China only at launch and will be very expensive and take a long time to import to the US. If you're in a country where the Mix is sold directly, may be worth waiting.

If you want to use your phone completely stock id say this phone is not for you if in the USA. Imo this phone is near unusable in the USA if you intend on staying stock.

Twotems said:
I've always wanted the Mi Mix and now the prices are dropping I'm seriously considering getting one. One of the main advantages of MIUI is getting constant updates no matter the model so I'm not really concerned if it has Nougat or not. Of course the Mix2 would probably be the preferred improved device, but the price will be ridiculous for the first few months.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
P.S. I'm not a modder and it will remain stock and unrooted.
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I am sorry to say that you won't be getting those updates so often or easily on the Mix, not the official global ones anyway. Global beta for the Mix is still on Marshmallow. If you will be using the China stable or beta then no problem.

knives of ice said:
If you want to use your phone completely stock id say this phone is not for you if in the USA. Imo this phone is near unusable in the USA if you intend on staying stock.
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Why is that? Everything I've read says it works fine for T-Mobile and AT&T LTE. I can't think of any other requirements that make the US so different. I've also used several phones without T-Mobile lte and 3G has been plenty fast.

albertoduqe said:
I am sorry to say that you won't be getting those updates so often or easily on the Mix, not the official global ones anyway. Global beta for the Mix is still on Marshmallow. If you will be using the China stable or beta then no problem.
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The point is that I will be getting some updates for the lifetime of the phone unlike other companies. The Mix is also on the list to be updated to Nougat. Besides that many of the features in new Android versions are already on even the older versions of miui.

Twotems said:
The point is that I will be getting some updates for the lifetime of the phone unlike other companies. The Mix is also on the list to be updated to Nougat. Besides that many of the features in new Android versions are already on even the older versions of miui.
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Sure. And some features are not there yet even on the MIUI nougat builds. But yeah, the Mix should still be getting updates for sure. Miui 9 should be available for it when it comes out or a bit later too.
And you can always root and go for one (or all) of the great custom roms out there too!!! :victory:
Anyway, only my opinion of course: impossible to know when Mix 2 will come out but as guys already said it will be very expensive for a while. And despite it probably being really awesome, the original Mix will still be a great great value for a long time. I think anyway.

albertoduqe said:
Sure. And some features are not there yet even on the MIUI nougat builds. But yeah, the Mix should still be getting updates for sure. Miui 9 should be available for it when it comes out or a bit later too.
And you can always root and go for one (or all) of the great custom roms out there too!!! :victory:
Anyway, only my opinion of course: impossible to know when Mix 2 will come out but as guys already said it will be very expensive for a while. And despite it probably being really awesome, the original Mix will still be a great great value for a long time. I think anyway.
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That's my thinking too with the added bonus that it will still be very rare and standout from the rest.

knives of ice said:
If you want to use your phone completely stock id say this phone is not for you if in the USA. Imo this phone is near unusable in the USA if you intend on staying stock.
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I don't know about you but I'm using the Mi Mix on Project Fi here in Cali and NY. Works perfect for me.

juggaknot77 said:
I don't know about you but I'm using the Mi Mix on Project Fi here in Cali and NY. Works perfect for me.
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How did you manage that? I thought project fi was only for Pixel's and Nexus phones?

Twotems said:
How did you manage that? I thought project fi was only for Pixel's and Nexus phones?
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Joking aside - i just bought mine on cect shop for 470€ with a mi band 2 and additional cables and protectors. atm it is in customs (shipped friday, today is sunday) and will get it tomorrow or tuesday..
it misses lte band 20 which is used in rural areas but I don't care. It's beefy enough to swap from my OP1 (since the OP5 is a mess, and you were not able to buy a 3t for ages thanks OP for all the fish...)

Twotems said:
How did you manage that? I thought project fi was only for Pixel's and Nexus phones?
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Real simple my friend, I activated the Project Fi account using my nexus 6, then moved the sim card to the Mi Mix, made sure all the APN settings matched and are correct and boom....... MAGIC.
I've done this with.....
Note 3, 4, 4 Edge
OnePlus 2, 3T
Huawei Mate 8, Mate 9 Pro
I have not encountered any issues or problems using Fi with a alternative device, beware you can only use T-Mobile which for me isn't a issue because it's the best service in my area, Sprint is terrible and US Cellular is non existent where I live.

juggaknot77 said:
Real simple my friend, I activated the Project Fi account using my nexus 6, then moved the sim card to the Mi Mix, made sure all the APN settings matched and are correct and boom....... MAGIC.
I've done this with.....
Note 3, 4, 4 Edge
OnePlus 2, 3T
Huawei Mate 8, Mate 9 Pro
I have not encountered any issues or problems using Fi with a alternative device, beware you can only use T-Mobile which for me isn't a issue because it's the best service in my area, Sprint is terrible and US Cellular is non existent where I live.
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Thanks for the tip. I just need to borrow a Nexus or Pixel now..........

Works great with AT&T.

Twotems said:
Thanks for the tip. I just need to borrow a Nexus or Pixel now..........
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I've got a nice old Nexus 5 I could borrow you no problem. I guess it's a bit too far but if you come up with a way I can help you from Spain I'd be glad to do it. I am serious.

I bought mine a few weeks ago and love it. All bar the camera which is distinctly average. I came from the Honor Note 8 and The Mix definitely edges it overall.

albertoduqe said:
I've got a nice old Nexus 5 I could borrow you no problem. I guess it's a bit too far but if you come up with a way I can help you from Spain I'd be glad to do it. I am serious.
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Thanks for the offer. I'll keep it in mind when the time comes.

Security/Firmware updates

This is one thing holding me back from Huawei phones. From my previous experience, Huawei don't offer a reliable schedule of security updates. You get a couple and they seem to move onto thier next release and forget everything else.
Are they still like this? How have you got on with previous Huawei phones?

I'm on the fence regarding this also - my previous experience was that UK devices had poor update support - while EU devices were far better - waiting to see this time (not fussed about missing out on any Watch/Charger promotion).

WhiteHartMart said:
I'm on the fence regarding this also - my previous experience was that UK devices had poor update support - while EU devices were far better - waiting to see this time (not fussed about missing out on any Watch/Charger promotion).
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very wise. also, if you give it a couple of months to see how it gets on the price will fall too. Might be worth buying from amazon.de before March 29th to retain EU warranty. Should get better updates from the EU phone. I've been told by a contact at Huawei, that the Three network are causing the delays in the UK. Even if your are on a different network!

Has a quick look to see how the Mate 10 pro is getting on with updates. Sadly its not good. Looks like most M10P users have been put off with the M20P for this reason. Why can't Huawei on this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/uk-firmware-updates-thread-bla-l09-t3730944/page52

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Has a quick look to see how the Mate 10 pro is getting on with updates. Sadly its not good. Looks like most M10P users have been put off with the M20P for this reason. Why can't Huawei on this?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/help/uk-firmware-updates-thread-bla-l09-t3730944/page52
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What are u talking about? EU gets one update per month,'it's the most updated phone in Europe besides Pixel maybe
ppl whining cuz their carriers **** up things,one look at firmware finder and you'll see there's even too much updates

troublecro said:
What are u talking about? EU gets one update per month,'it's the most updated phone in Europe besides Pixel maybe
ppl whining cuz their carriers **** up things,one look at firmware finder and you'll see there's even too much updates
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I didn't get many on my last Huawei phone despite Firmware Finder. My Pixel gets them every month on the same network. That is why people are whining.

Change carriers. They obviously favor Google phones. I'm even bit unsatisfied by too many updates for Mate 10 pro cuz I like to factory reset phone after each.
Taking a look at FF they pushed out 16 updates for EU region in last 12 months. Champions of updates I'd say

troublecro said:
Change carriers. They obviously favor Google phones. I'm even bit unsatisfied by too many updates for Mate 10 pro cuz I like to factory reset phone after each.
Taking a look at FF they pushed out 16 updates for EU region in last 12 months. Champions of updates I'd say
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Thats really good to hear. Gives me more confidence!

Other regions weren't so lucky tho, like USA

troublecro said:
Change carriers. They obviously favor Google phones. I'm even bit unsatisfied by too many updates for Mate 10 pro cuz I like to factory reset phone after each.
Taking a look at FF they pushed out 16 updates for EU region in last 12 months. Champions of updates I'd say
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Trouble is from my experience EU had great update support, UK had poor support often 2 or 3 software updates behind (although I think security updates were a bit more regular). If I get a Mate 20 I’d be tempted to get a dual sim EU model over the single sim UK one.
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WhiteHartMart said:
Trouble is from my experience EU had great update support, UK had poor support often 2 or 3 software updates behind (although I think security updates were a bit more regular). If I get a Mate 20 I’d be tempted to get a dual sim EU model over the single sim UK one.
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This is why i use a pixel. Huawei in the UK seem to lag behind. Rumours are the 3 network is holding up precedings. This will affect you even if you're on a different network.

Several several years ago, I swore never to buy a Huawei phone again because of the horrendous lack of updates. Back then it was the enormous jump from KK to lollipop. Nexus devices back then we're about to jump to marshmallow before Huawei updated their phone to lollipop. This was on the Ascend Mate 7.
I am tempted to get the Mate 20 Pro, but am afraid of the lack of support. I'm debating on the Huawei phone vs the 6T at this point. Choices.. I enjoy wide angle lenses but also enjoy smooth stock android. If only the 6T had a wide angle lens, it wouldn't even be a debate for me.

AhsanU said:
Several several years ago, I swore never to buy a Huawei phone again because of the horrendous lack of updates. Back then it was the enormous jump from KK to lollipop. Nexus devices back then we're about to jump to marshmallow before Huawei updated their phone to lollipop. This was on the Ascend Mate 7.
I am tempted to get the Mate 20 Pro, but am afraid of the lack of support. I'm debating on the Huawei phone vs the 6T at this point. Choices.. I enjoy wide angle lenses but also enjoy smooth stock android. If only the 6T had a wide angle lens, it wouldn't even be a debate for me.
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Same as me, I swore i'd never buy Huawei again because of their poor support. Its a lot of money to drop on a phone that will get dropped. Does anyone know how Android treble is working out for Huawei? Will this alleviate any fears?

I was complaining to my wife that my lg g7 only got one update since I got it. She, on the other hand, was annoyed because of how many updates she got since she had the p20 pro. Although, her phone was not bought from a carrier.
Or maybe Huawei has a new approach to updates? Considering the fact that they've stated numerous times that they want to become the #1 phone manufacturer, or beat samsung (something like that). And consistent updates would take a lot from samsung's market, knowing how inconsistent they are.
Also, huawei is one of the first to come with pie updates, which gives me confidence in them. "Don't forget about oneplus". Yeah, oneplus only has to worry about softwear, given the fact that their hardwear is borrowed from whatstheirface.

Mate 10 updates have been solid for me here in NZ, no issues with frequency of security updates.

There is one phone for UK/ EU this time. Put a sim inside, and it will OTA add your networks specific network settings/apps/maybe a splash screen. Factory reset, and everything is removed, including splash screen.
I am hoping this new system also means faster updates in the UK as well.
Will the Pixel get updates quicker and potentially for longer. Probably yes. That's the choice you have to make.

gavinfabl said:
There is one phone for UK/ EU this time. Put a sim inside, and it will OTA add your networks specific network settings/apps/maybe a splash screen. Factory reset, and everything is removed, including splash screen.
I am hoping this new system also means faster updates in the UK as well.
Will the Pixel get updates quicker and potentially for longer. Probably yes. That's the choice you have to make.
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Actually, it's even better than you describe. As far as security and OS updates are concerned, there's one phone for non-China and one phone for China. Previously we had software updates separated by branding (Asia/C636, Europe/C432, UK/C782, Middle East/C185) as well as by dual sim or single sim (L09/L29)
As things are with the new models, there is one firmware file for every non-Chinese Mate 20 Pro, and one firmware file for every Chinese Mate 20 Pro. Then there are separate files for branding-related changes which can be updated and packaged separately from the main firmware file.
The result is that one update file is valid for all of the non-Chinese phones, to update the features, security patch, etc.
This is a new thing with EMUI 9, and it will also apply to older phones updated to EMUI 9, like P20 series, Mate 10 series, so on.

My carrier Optus is unfortunately well known for failing to provide regular Huawei updates so hopefully I will eventually be able to debrand my Mate 20 Pro somehow.

If you're feeling unsure about security updates, this might make you feel better
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If you're feeling unsure about security updates, this might make you feel better
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LOL, clear as day that reply. Maybe until you are old and grey

Question Global Version AT&T After 3G Shutdown

I see the global version supports wifi calling and VOLTE and has as much band support as my Huawei P30 Pro so the coverage should be fine but will this phone actually work on AT&T after the 3g shutdown? I've read forums where people "call" *#somenumbers*#" and it lets them turn on VOLTE without the carrier checking compatibility. Any advice or input would be great. I really hate iPhones and Samsungs which seems to be all US carriers want to support.

pseriesjim said:
I see the global version supports wifi calling and VOLTE and has as much band support as my Huawei P30 Pro so the coverage should be fine but will this phone actually work on AT&T after the 3g shutdown? I've read forums where people "call" *#somenumbers*#" and it lets them turn on VOLTE without the carrier checking compatibility. Any advice or input would be great. I really hate iPhones and Samsungs which seems to be all US carriers want to support.
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I'm on Tmobile works perfectly on 4G LTE. 3G isn't an issue as that only applies to phones that rely on 3G data and Yes, VoLTE works!

That's good to know because ATT is basically trying to force me to buy one of maybe 3 phones. I wish I could keep my P30 Pro but I cant seem to get the update that enables VOLTE so I need a new phone and this seems much nicer then the new Samsung.

pseriesjim said:
That's good to know because ATT is basically trying to force me to buy one of maybe 3 phones. I wish I could keep my P30 Pro but I cant seem to get the update that enables VOLTE so I need a new phone and this seems much nicer then the new Samsung.
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Just have to know the phone dialer codes and your phone will run both VoLTE and VoWiFi. Just do a Google search for them.

jim262 said:
Just have to know the phone dialer codes and your phone will run both VoLTE and VoWiFi. Just do a Google search for them.
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I tried that already, I don't see any codes to unlock the options on my phone. I think the APN is part of the problem. I was told to use NXTGENPHONE. Further research shows that ATT doesn't allow any thing they don't approve to use VoLTE or VoWiFi regardless if the phone has the feature. Unless you know a sneaky way around this, I suspect the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra won't work either.

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I tried that already, I don't see any codes to unlock the options on my phone. I think the APN is part of the problem. I was told to use NXTGENPHONE.
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Here are the code for xiaomi:
VoLTE *#*#86583#*#*
VoWiFi/WLAN *#*#869434#*#*

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Here are the code for xiaomi:
VoLTE *#*#86583#*#*
VoWiFi/WLAN *#*#869434#*#*
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Those codes bypass ATT verifying the phone and enable the features?

pseriesjim said:
Those codes bypass ATT verifying the phone and enable the features?
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Yes. That's what they do for all carriers, I believe.

jim262 said:
Yes. That's what they do for all carriers, I believe.
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I just want to confirm that you have the global rom version and not the Chinese rom. I'd hate to spend $1,000 on a phone that only works for 6 months

I bought the Chinese version and have tried all roms, but settled on the rom from Xiaomi.eu as there are far more features and less bloat. BTW, the Chinese variant now sells for around $900 from Giztop for the base model. I bought my 12/256 for $1045 when it was first released. I heard the Global variant was selling as high as $1300. Considerable savings going with the China variant, waiting a week, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another rom.

jim262 said:
I bought the Chinese version and have tried all roms, but settled on the rom from Xiaomi.eu as there are far more features and less bloat. BTW, the Chinese variant now sells for around $900 from Giztop for the base model. I bought my 12/256 for $1045 when it was first released. I heard the Global variant was selling as high as $1300. Considerable savings going with the China variant, waiting a week, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another rom.
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I've been reading that having the Chinese version causes issues with AT&T specifically and no one can seem to confirm that having either rom will work with ATT after the 3g shutdown. My current phone, the Huawei p30 Pro is the global version that had the most ATT frequencies of the p30 series but apparently the only version that doesn't have VOLTE. I just don't want to spend $1,000 on a new phone that has no guarantee of working after the shutdown or even on the 5g network. According to the frequency lists online, the Chinese version doesn't support ATT 5g. Is there any difference in hardware between the global and Chinese variant or is the only difference the ROM installed on it? Meaning does the rom determine the frequencies supported?

pseriesjim said:
I've been reading that having the Chinese version causes issues with AT&T specifically and no one can seem to confirm that having either rom will work with ATT after the 3g shutdown. My current phone, the Huawei p30 Pro is the global version that had the most ATT frequencies of the p30 series but apparently the only version that doesn't have VOLTE. I just don't want to spend $1,000 on a new phone that has no guarantee of working after the shutdown or even on the 5g network. According to the frequency lists online, the Chinese version doesn't support ATT 5g. Is there any difference in hardware between the global and Chinese variant or is the only difference the ROM installed on it? Meaning does the rom determine the frequencies supported?
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The hardware on the Chinese version and the Global are exactly the same. If you wish to spend more money, go right ahead. But I would buy the Chinese variant, wait a week, unlock the bootloader and flash to global rom.

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The hardware on the Chinese version and the Global are exactly the same. If you wish to spend more money, go right ahead. But I would buy the Chinese variant, wait a week, unlock the bootloader and flash to global rom.
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Saving money is what I'm all about. Do you know of a guide to flashing the rom? I've never used twrp or any of that sort of software. Any guides on this phone specifically would be great.

So I found a YouTube video that seems pretty straight forward:
After you flashed the new rom does your phone auto update? Can you go to settings and get updates through the GUI or do you manually have to connect it to the PC and flash it each time ?

pseriesjim said:
Saving money is what I'm all about. Do you know of a guide to flashing the rom? I've never used twrp or any of that sort of software. Any guides on this phone specifically would be great.
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The guides are for stock on the Xiaomi site and for the custom rom Xiaomi.eu or on this website. Just got to look.

pseriesjim said:
So I found a YouTube video that seems pretty straight forward:
After you flashed the new rom does your phone auto update? Can you go to settings and get updates through the GUI or do you manually have to connect it to the PC and flash it each time ?
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YES, it recieves OTAs

Here's the link for the Xiaomi stock roms. https://c.mi.com//miuidownload/detail?device=1900395
Here is the info for the Xiaomi.eu rom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...mi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-11-pro-ultra.4260617/

I decided not to buy the phone after speaking with a few people from AT&T. They informed me that the way AT&T will be deploying the mandatory VOLTE would render the phone useless based on their encryption. Because the phone is not white listed they will not send the required encryption to the phone so VOLTE would not activate after the 3G shutdown and if it somehow was activated before, they would deactivate it on the shutdown date. It is really proving that living here in the US is not a great as it once was. We are now being forced to pick 1 of 3 phone companies. Apple, Samsung or the google Pixel. I assume since they paid the most in back end deals. All of which I hate. Looks like
I'll be hacking/rooting a Samsung. If anyone knows of a theme to make a Samsung look like a Huawei, please post it here. Very disappointed to lose my IR blaster and all the better various hardware that these overseas phones have to offer. Uncle Sam said no.

pseriesjim said:
I decided not to buy the phone after speaking with a few people from AT&T. They informed me that the way AT&T will be deploying the mandatory VOLTE would render the phone useless based on their encryption. Because the phone is not white listed they will not send the required encryption to the phone so VOLTE would not activate after the 3G shutdown and if it somehow was activated before, they would deactivate it on the shutdown date. It is really proving that living here in the US is not a great as it once was. We are now being forced to pick 1 of 3 phone companies. Apple, Samsung or the google Pixel. I assume since they paid the most in back end deals. All of which I hate. Looks like
I'll be hacking/rooting a Samsung. If anyone knows of a theme to make a Samsung look like a Huawei, please post it here. Very disappointed to lose my IR blaster and all the better various hardware that these overseas phones have to offer. Uncle Sam said no.
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FIrst of all, I would switch networks. No question on that one, as they are trying to force you to buy the phones that they sell. Also, if you are using a Snapdragon variant of a Samsung used in the United States, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader and/or root it. That is only possible on the exynos variants, which are probably not whitelisted on AT&T.

Question Which version and software do you use?

Please share:
-Which version do you have? Global, China, Indian?
-Which firmware do you use on this phone? Global, xiaomi eu, chinese, eeu?
-did you ever had a problem with the main screen touch response / slow fingerprint unlock / drops of the main screen refresh rate due to activating the small rear screen / overheating of the device during simple tasks like browsing the websites?
The explanation, why I am asking those specific questions in that order are written below (the message is long, read it if you are interested in my theory...)
Spoiler: The explanation
About 2 months ago I got my Chinese variant of mi11 ultra 12/256. For the first 7 days of waiting to unlock the bootloader everything was working great. After unlocking it I installed xiaomi.eu and from that moment I experienced all of the problems mentioned in my 3rd question, one after another, without the possibility of fixing them by for example changing to all the firmwares mentioned in the 2nd question, or even by coming back to the Chinese original firmware. I am very experienced modder of android, especially xiaomi devices, so I don't think that there was a lack of my experience in trying to fix this device.
Suddenly, without any reason and without any hardware damage, the rear main camera lens stopped working. I sent my phone for the guarantee repair including the list of all the other issues. The service center informed me that it was not possible to fix this phone and I received all my money back.
I cannot find any other and better phone for this money in the market, so I am trying to figure out if the problems which I experienced was caused by using global firmwares on the Chinese variant of the phone. My theory is, that there has to be a reason (and connection) why my phone stopped working properly after switching the firmwares.
Why there is such a huge price difference between the Chinese and Global version? The Chinese variant you can easily buy now for 780 euros with the shipping to Europe. The global variant costs 1300 euros.
I cannot believe that in Europe it's necessary to pay 520 euros more for the taxes, extra 5g band as well as the official Google play support. That is 40 percent more of the phone's value!
There has to be a hardware difference. Many people are saying that there isn't, but noone never shared any official data comparing two devices and proving that each of the chip on the motherboard is exactly the same between those variants.
In my opinion global firmware on the chinese variant is somehow damaging the hardware of the phone, which cause problems not possible to fix.
I had a chance to speak to a few xiaomi mi11 ultra owners. Until now, my theory was correct, because all the people who bought Chinese variant and switched to the global / eu or whatever different firmware started to experience at least the touch response issue as well as the fingerprint scanner issue. Other people who did not switch to global firmware on the Chinese phones didn't experience any issues mentioned in this post.

I have a global device with global ROM and firmware, I have stuttering when rear screen is active and fingerprint scanner is not always accurate, also during browsing the touch screen response becomes sluggish and I have to screen lock and reunlock to fix it,

I have multiple issues with my 11 Ultra. It's the most stupid flagship phone ever. Chinese crap.
Hardware is great, software is just a total crapshoot.
For instance: the attachment option doesn't even work here in this app.
I'm on 12.5.6 global RKAEUXM..

hgoor said:
I have multiple issues with my 11 Ultra. It's the most stupid flagship phone ever. Chinese crap.
Hardware is great, software is just a total crapshoot.
For instance: the attachment option doesn't even work here in this app.
I'm on 12.5.6 global RKAEUXM..
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So you have the Chinese variant with global installed, yes?
Read my spoiler from the 1st post and please share what do you think about my theory.

Global ver and global-indonesia 12.5.2.0 rom, got the touch response problem when visit certain website, weird wifi speed problem when connected to 1 of my 3 wifi in my house, also weird battery usage problem with chrome can use 11000mah battery when this battery capacity only 5k mah as
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. And also phone heating when browsing for long time, Still hoping this is all software problem.

misiek735 said:
So you have the Chinese variant with global installed, yes?
Read my spoiler from the 1st post and please share what do you think about my theory.
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No that's not the Chinese variant at all.
It's the m2102k1g version.. G as in Global...
Note that this number is on the back of the phone. So in your own theory, yours should have "c" on there for Chinese...

China phone , eu stable
On paper the phone is great, in the hand it has many issues.
My Huawei mate 20 x is a lot more polished and it was released in 2018 ffs

misiek735 said:
Please share:
-Which version do you have? Global, China, Indian?
-Which firmware do you use on this phone? Global, xiaomi eu, chinese, eeu?
-did you ever had a problem with the main screen touch response / slow fingerprint unlock / drops of the main screen refresh rate due to activating the small rear screen / overheating of the device during simple tasks like browsing the websites?
The explanation, why I am asking those specific questions in that order are written below (the message is long, read it if you are interested in my theory...)
Spoiler: The explanation
About 2 months ago I got my Chinese variant of mi11 ultra 12/256. For the first 7 days of waiting to unlock the bootloader everything was working great. After unlocking it I installed xiaomi.eu and from that moment I experienced all of the problems mentioned in my 3rd question, one after another, without the possibility of fixing them by for example changing to all the firmwares mentioned in the 2nd question, or even by coming back to the Chinese original firmware. I am very experienced modder of android, especially xiaomi devices, so I don't think that there was a lack of my experience in trying to fix this device.
Suddenly, without any reason and without any hardware damage, the rear main camera lens stopped working. I sent my phone for the guarantee repair including the list of all the other issues. The service center informed me that it was not possible to fix this phone and I received all my money back.
I cannot find any other and better phone for this money in the market, so I am trying to figure out if the problems which I experienced was caused by using global firmwares on the Chinese variant of the phone. My theory is, that there has to be a reason (and connection) why my phone stopped working properly after switching the firmwares.
Why there is such a huge price difference between the Chinese and Global version? The Chinese variant you can easily buy now for 780 euros with the shipping to Europe. The global variant costs 1300 euros.
I cannot believe that in Europe it's necessary to pay 520 euros more for the taxes, extra 5g band as well as the official Google play support. That is 40 percent more of the phone's value!
There has to be a hardware difference. Many people are saying that there isn't, but noone never shared any official data comparing two devices and proving that each of the chip on the motherboard is exactly the same between those variants.
In my opinion global firmware on the chinese variant is somehow damaging the hardware of the phone, which cause problems not possible to fix.
I had a chance to speak to a few xiaomi mi11 ultra owners. Until now, my theory was correct, because all the people who bought Chinese variant and switched to the global / eu or whatever different firmware started to experience at least the touch response issue as well as the fingerprint scanner issue. Other people who did not switch to global firmware on the Chinese phones didn't experience any issues mentioned in this post.
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I use the Xiaomi.eu rom, which has the features of the China rom, which aren' t in the Global or EEA roms, but has the Google services not available in the China rom.

Question any 3rd rom have a plan for this device?

like PE or something else.

I've sent an email to Xiaomi to ask when the Global release will be. I purchased the Note 12 Pro here as a 'Global' version but it ended up being some modified Chinese ROM with a factory unlocked bootloader so I couldn't even use GAPPS and a bunch of other apps (super annoying). So now it's just sitting in the cupboard until a Global or other ROM is release for the phone...
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reeper250 said:
I've sent an email to Xiaomi to ask when the Global release will be. I purchased the Note 12 Pro here as a 'Global' version but it ended up being some modified Chinese ROM with a factory unlocked bootloader so I couldn't even use GAPPS and a bunch of other apps (super annoying). So now it's just sitting in the cupboard until a Global or other ROM is release for the phone...
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I flashed india rom yesterday.

reeper250 said:
I've sent an email to Xiaomi to ask when the Global release will be. I purchased the Note 12 Pro here as a 'Global' version but it ended up being some modified Chinese ROM with a factory unlocked bootloader so I couldn't even use GAPPS and a bunch of other apps (super annoying). So now it's just sitting in the cupboard until a Global or other ROM is release for the phone...
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I purchased the same phone but opted for the basic CN rom and the box was sent sealed. I'm currently waiting for the bootloader to be allowed to be unlocked (official way 168hrs) and have left it unused after setting it up.
Google services/apps CAN be added/allowed anyway on the CN rom under accounts (you'll see it there, enable it), then install the latest google play apk and any other apps you want. I have the phone at 99% how I like it and may keep it as is because gpay works. You can also use ADBAppControl to remove bloatware and if you bang a launcher on (I'm using Nova) you'll not notice. If you're gonna flash it anyway you might as well try the above and see if it is good enough for you. At least you can play with your new toy

galenzha0 said:
like PE or something else.
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No or few development for Xiaomi with Mediatek processors.

My bootloader is now unlocked and I'm hoping that xiaomi.eu will make a rom for it. It can stay in it's box till they do, or we get a global rom. Can't be long really.

launton said:
I purchased the same phone but opted for the basic CN rom and the box was sent sealed. I'm currently waiting for the bootloader to be allowed to be unlocked (official way 168hrs) and have left it unused after setting it up.
Google services/apps CAN be added/allowed anyway on the CN rom under accounts (you'll see it there, enable it), then install the latest google play apk and any other apps you want. I have the phone at 99% how I like it and may keep it as is because gpay works. You can also use ADBAppControl to remove bloatware and if you bang a launcher on (I'm using Nova) you'll not notice. If you're gonna flash it anyway you might as well try the above and see if it is good enough for you. At least you can play with your new toy
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I managed to get GAPPS on it, but still can't use WearOS which is a pain.. Other than that, I have Google Pay, Play Store, etc on it. I'll give ADBAppControl a go. The Chinese apps are a bit annoying with all the notifications (even after disabling notifications...)
Had this guy help me since he has an authorized account: [email protected]
Been using both my Redmi Note 9 Pro and this Note 12 Pro. The 12 is much, much smoother but I'm not super impressed with the camera though. The Samsung camera looks way better.

reeper250 said:
I managed to get GAPPS on it, but still can't use WearOS which is a pain.. Other than that, I have Google Pay, Play Store, etc on it. I'll give ADBAppControl a go. The Chinese apps are a bit annoying with all the notifications (even after disabling notifications...)
Had this guy help me since he has an authorized account: [email protected]
Been using both my Redmi Note 9 Pro and this Note 12 Pro. The 12 is much, much smoother but I'm not super impressed with the camera though. The Samsung camera looks way better.
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I found a video online comparing the samsung cam against the sony and couldn't see that mugh difference and gcam seems 'ok' on it. I can't use gpay cos the nfc isn't active, I'm not sure if I can use the nfc on my pixel watch to pass the info back to the phone via BT for purchases. Might try that when/if a proper global rom is out. The india rom is fine for 99% of it all for me.

I bought the Chinese version. I hated the limitations and crap not working correctly with the Chinese rom, so I flashed the Indian (Global) rom the day it was available and it's great!
I'm definitely waiting for a xiaomi.eu rom though as there's still some things missing. Gamepad support and Google Pay are 2 that I can think of right now.
I live in Canada.

Someone has asked over on xiaomi.eu, and as the phones processor isn't snapdragon, support might not be looked into. Just have to wait and see I guess.

launton said:
Someone has asked over on xiaomi.eu, and as the phones processor isn't snapdragon, support might not be looked into. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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Holy crap. I really hope that's not the case. I would settle for something like Lineage or Arrow ROMs, but I would really like a stock, debloated rom with missing features added.

launton said:
Someone has asked over on xiaomi.eu, and as the phones processor isn't snapdragon, support might not be looked into. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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If you are numerous, it remains possible but not free.
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/community-funded-mediatek-support-initiative.66319/

I've subscribed. Fingers crossed and thank you.

reeper250 said:
I've sent an email to Xiaomi to ask when the Global release will be. I purchased the Note 12 Pro here as a 'Global' version but it ended up being some modified Chinese ROM with a factory unlocked bootloader so I couldn't even use GAPPS and a bunch of other apps (super annoying). So now it's just sitting in the cupboard until a Global or other ROM is release for the phone...
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It's always written Global on the phone but the reality is different.
Following your purchase link, I see according to this screenshot.
13.0.6.0 SMOMIXM MI=Global except there is no global rom for this model, 22101316I(Indian), 22101316C(Chinese).AliExpress to avoid.fake rom specialist.
Spoiler: CODES
EUXM=EEA Europe
MIXM=Global
TRXM=Turkey
RUXM=Russia
INXM=India
JPXM=Japan
IDXM=Indonesia
TWXM=Taiwan
CNXM=China
DEV=Public Beta