Can I swap a international motherboard n960f into a n960u frame? - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

I have a samsung galaxy note 9 on sprint currently, the phone was dropped and smashed but not too a unrepairable extent. I currently put a new battery, charger port, and wireless coil. The phone won't charge still unless I use my s20 ultra as a wireless charger which says its charging but I cannot get a light, vibration, or any screen activity so I'm guessing the motherboard is most likely toast. There is no water damage and I will be replacing the screen glass I was hoping I could get a image before I ordered one lol but the real question is the phone is on sprint I was wondering if I can purchase a N960F international model motherboard and use it in the N960u shell. I want exynos for the simplicity of rooting. Also The charger port I installed was off ifixit and labeled for the n960u, n960f, n960fd but read somewhere there's a difference in charging ports? Any information is greatly appreciated. This phone will most likely be used on AT&T

Does anybody have any insight on this issue?

I you dropped and made damage anything, i guess you might have the same issues, but otherwise if motherboard fits in place correctly it should work, the F variant is exynos ad should work with all networks, and sure you can root it.

No guarentee it will be a pin for pin swamp or that the subassembly components/firmware will be compatable.
I think it's unlikely to work.
You need someone that did it to know for sure otherwise it could be a big lick on you. Even if it's possible no guarantee the replacement mobo is good or won't be damaged during installation (think ESD). If you had all the major components you have little to lose otherwise you might be kicking a dead horse.
With that much damage buying a working one with the right configuration be a better bet...

blackhawk said:
No guarentee it will be a pin for pin swamp or that the subassembly components/firmware will be compatable.
I think it's unlikely to work.
You need someone that did it to know for sure otherwise it could be a big lick on you. Even if it's possible no guarantee the replacement mobo is good or won't be damaged during installation (think ESD). If you had all the major components you have little to lose otherwise you might be kicking a dead horse.
With that much damage buying a working one with the right configuration be a better bet...
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I'm sure to be careful with my electronics, but you are right. Looking at tons of pictures the motherboards seem identical in size, all the parts I bought said they were compatible with both models ill be using all n960u parts other than the motherboard. I read somewhere the charger flex is different but I can't see or find any ones that are different, also same for the cameras. This will be a pretty sweet experiment I guess. If they screen works the cracks in the display aren't too bad that it wouldn't be usable. I'd save about 80$ (if I don't buy a bdot replacement) all in all spending about 200$ in replacement parts. Not too bad if you ask me. Considering it's my gfs old phone that she didn't end up paying off since it broke I don't think it'll be a bad deal
I'll be sure to update any progress I have the motherboard will be in around the 15th of march

I changed my mind, perhaps rubber conectors are different?

Alboooz said:
I changed my mind, perhaps rubber conectors are different?
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What rubber connectors?

Mikeyx898 said:
What rubber connectors?
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Screen, camera or USB connection cable might be different size or location.

Boards may look same but their functionality may differ as both boards have different CPUs. snapdragon variat have FM radio enabled so 3.5mm jack may have different port configuration same goes with cameras and so on..... Best is to buy a exynos variant F model.

Mikeyx898 said:
I'm sure to be careful with my electronics, but you are right. Looking at tons of pictures the motherboards seem identical in size, all the parts I bought said they were compatible with both models ill be using all n960u parts other than the motherboard. I read somewhere the charger flex is different but I can't see or find any ones that are different, also same for the cameras. This will be a pretty sweet experiment I guess. If they screen works the cracks in the display aren't too bad that it wouldn't be usable. I'd save about 80$ (if I don't buy a bdot replacement) all in all spending about 200$ in replacement parts. Not too bad if you ask me. Considering it's my gfs old phone that she didn't end up paying off since it broke I don't think it'll be a bad deal
I'll be sure to update any progress I have the motherboard will be in around the 15th of march
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Any update? did u successfully swap the motherboards?

Munawar Mehmood said:
Boards may look same but their functionality may differ as both boards have different CPUs. snapdragon variat have FM radio enabled so 3.5mm jack may have different port configuration same goes with cameras and so on..... Best is to buy a exynos variant F model.
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On the Note 10+ there are 2 Snapdragon C port PCB variants that look identical but are completely incompatible and not interchangeable.

Any update on this swap?

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[Q] USB port problem

whenever i try to charge my note or connect it to pc it keeps lagging badly i mean i have to keep moving the cable backward for it to work and its very senstive with just the slightest move it will stop charging again ! what do i do ? do i have to change it ? i really don't drop my note or anything i try to take care of it as much as possible and changing it might be a problem for me since y parents wont agree ! any help ?
Well i do think that you'll have to change it. the charging port seems to be very problematic for the note. And almost all the note users here with the same problem have replaced the port. i guess it'll be done for free if the phone is in warranty. I'd like the other users to tell me the approx cost of the replacement.
Varad297 said:
Well i do think that you'll have to change it. the charging port seems to be very problematic for the note. And almost all the note users here with the same problem have replaced the port. i guess it'll be done for free if the phone is in warranty. I'd like the other users to tell me the approx cost of the replacement.
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many thanks to you ^^ yah me too its true that i am under warranty but just in case they refused to do it how much will it cost ?
I have this problem and I fixed it by using a real samsung original usb cable. this problem is evident when i use cheap after market usb cables. the cheap cables seem to loosen up and their contact pins inside wear out. this is when you will have that charging problem.
If you have any mechanical abilities, it takes about 15 minutes to replace. Many youtube videos on how to do it.
Port isn't expensive, maybe 10 dollars (us), plus shipping. Just insure you get the correct one for your model of
phone.
One thing I would take care of is to take care of who you buy it from if you do so on ebay. I replaced mine and it's incompatible in some way, speaker now doesn't work and signal is terrible.
Make sure you search their sold items for feedback saying it works fine. I was reading through a thread for SGS2 USB strip replacements and mingxing2008008 was a recommended seller for that one, maybe they're reliable in general

n910t board in n910a frame

Ok, so I'm looking to get a Note 4 that is capable of being modded. My friend is offering to sell me her n910a, but from what I understand it's not very mod friendly. What I'm wondering is if it's possible to just swap in a n910t board into a n910a frame. The only reasion I'm thinking of doing this is because her phone is mint.
Now, before you just say no, I've done a bit of homework and found that all the parts I looked up (LCD, audio assembly, camera) seem to be cross compatible. This makes me think it should just drop right in.
Be a pioneer.
I unlocked your mum's bootloader.
Daemondorran said:
Ok, so I'm looking to get a Note 4 that is capable of being modded. My friend is offering to sell me her n910a, but from what I understand it's not very mod friendly. What I'm wondering is if it's possible to just swap in a n910t board into a n910a frame. The only reasion I'm thinking of doing this is because her phone is mint.
Now, before you just say no, I've done a bit of homework and found that all the parts I looked up (LCD, audio assembly, camera) seem to be cross compatible. This makes me think it should just drop right in.
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Yes you absolutely can. I have done the exact same thing for exact same reason. If the spen won't work afterwards its simply a connector that is quite tricky to get connected but not impossible.
Daemondorran said:
Ok, so I'm looking to get a Note 4 that is capable of being modded. My friend is offering to sell me her n910a, but from what I understand it's not very mod friendly. What I'm wondering is if it's possible to just swap in a n910t board into a n910a frame. The only reasion I'm thinking of doing this is because her phone is mint.
Now, before you just say no, I've done a bit of homework and found that all the parts I looked up (LCD, audio assembly, camera) seem to be cross compatible. This makes me think it should just drop right in.
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I have done it before as well. Drop in replacement.
Awesome! Thanks for the confirmation on this!

Replacing S10 Motherboard

Hello guys,
I own a S10 model SM-G973F ,
Sadly,
My motherboard completely died but the rest of parts are working well.
I want to buy the unlock version of S10 Motherboard model SM-G973U.
Is it possible? if its unlocked version it will work?
Thanks,
The U1 variant should work but double check.
It likely be the cam and C port modules that give you trouble if at all.
I was of the belief that the C port pcb wasn't interchangeable on the N10+; apparently it's the same for all US Snapdragon variants.
If not compatible you will lose phone and internet service. Next time I go to change out the C port PCB I'll document it fully... a repair shop screwed up the last one and I didn't record which PN# was on the replacement board, duh.
Next time I'll just do it right and do it myself!!!
So to sum up,
you suggest to buy a new/used same board model as I had (SM-G973F).
Any chance you know where could i buy for a reasonable price?
ForcePower1337 said:
So to sum up,
you suggest to buy a new/used same board model as I had (SM-G973F).
Any chance you know where could i buy for a reasonable price?
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No clue and if used the IMEI needs to be clean.
A used S10 is another option, a parts queen.
For $400 you could buy a used N10+ in excellent condition but same issues there with buying used. If you don't mind the size it be a definite upgrade. New ones are going for $800 now.
If you buy used there's another issue, the firmware version. Android 9 is preferable, 10 is as high as I would go. Make -sure- you known what firmware is loaded as sellers many times don't list what's actually loaded. Best to talk with the seller by phone.

replacing usb charging assembly

sadly my n960f-ds' charging port has gotten water damage and needs replacement. I went to update my recovery and rom today and my phone wasn't recognized by pc.. rip. i noticed on ifixit site they specifically sell a 'us/eu single sim charging assembly'. it made me wonder if there is a specifc charging assembly for the dual sim exynos note 9? this will be my first time doing a repair like this so i want to be sure i am doing it correctly and have the right parts. thank you for your time and help.
Locate the PN# on the pcb and use that to get the same replacement. The exynos one likely won't work!
blackhawk said:
Locate the PN# on the pcb and use that to get the same replacement. The exynos one likely won't work!
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Thank you for the help friend!

Samsung Galaxy Grand Neo dead. Need help

Hello guys,
I have an old Samsung GT-i9060 phone which I'd received from my previous employer. It has finally given up and is now completely dead. I suspect a faulty charging cable to be the culprit this time as my attempts at superficial repair has proven that the problem is deeper. I tried getting it fixed at a local repair shop but he gave up on the basis that parts aren't available and that the motherboard has gone kaput.
So, to summarize....
Samsung GT-i9060 completely dead
has been dropped several times and cracked digitizer has been replaced.
old battery is not at optimum condition but problem persists when tested with a new battery.
No vibration or samsung/charging logo on display when powered on battery or charging but certain areas of motherboard get heated up if I try to turn it on.
I got some important contacts and backup on this phone which I'd really like to salvage. I invested in a few basic tools and looked up a few tutorials on the interwebz but none seem to help me understand the actual problem. I am a novice when it comes to electronics and can easily try to recover the data through some specialists but the satisfaction in getting it done myself is priceless!
So any kind of help would be immensely appreciated.
Thanks
Make sure that the battery voltage is over 3.6 volt. Then connect phone to pc using usb cable without pressing any buttons then check pc detects phone's soc(broadcom interface) or not.
Thanks. Let me try that out and get back to you.
Update - @engage4 Battery was at 4.27V, fully charged. Connected to PC but it wasn't detected although I observed the same heating issue as mentioned in my original post (see attached pic)
Coincidentally, the memory chip and processor are on the exact underside of the mobo area that I have highlighted (which heats up)
For reference, my previous reply to you is here:
How to check voltage level at a resistor?
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 (SM-G930F) that appears to be dead. I found the service manual online and I'm now trying to follow the troubleshooting flowchart for power issues. I am stuck at the third step (already), where it tells me to check the...
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Rizzi87 said:
I suspect a faulty charging cable to be the culprit this time as my attempts at superficial repair has proven that the problem is deeper.
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What do you mean by superficial repair? What made you suspect the charging cable?
Rizzi87 said:
I tried getting it fixed at a local repair shop but he gave up on the basis that parts aren't available and that the motherboard has gone kaput.
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Kaput? I know that word. That's a German word for broken. I wonder if he told you this because he wanted to repair the components on the board, or because he wanted to toss out the old board and install a new board and call it repaired.
Rizzi87 said:
old battery is not at optimum condition but problem persists when tested with a new battery.
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So you already tested with a new battery. Good! That's one of the first things I would do as well. GSM Arena says the battery is "Li-Ion 2100 mAh, removable". At least you didn't need to send it in or leave it to a repair shop to replace the battery. I remember the time when you could replace the battery of your phone yourself. That in itself was very satisfactory. Those were great times! Those times are gone. Now you have to pay a premium to replace a battery. It's "complicated" they say, and so it's not for everyone (or anyone).
Rizzi87 said:
No vibration or samsung/charging logo on display when powered on battery or charging but certain areas of motherboard get heated up if I try to turn it on.
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Hotter than what's usual for a phone that's charging? If it's shorted, charging may damage it further. You can test it of course, but you're risking it. Don't test charge for longer than you need to, preferably not at all as soon as you realize there's something wrong with the device. There's the risk of battery leaking or catching fire. So be careful and don't leave it unsupervised.
Rizzi87 said:
I got some important contacts and backup on this phone which I'd really like to salvage. I invested in a few basic tools and looked up a few tutorials on the interwebz but none seem to help me understand the actual problem.
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What kind of tutorials are you reading or watching? What do you think is the problem?
You have to go over more than a few tutorials if you want to be able to intuitively know what to look for or what to do. One way is to start learning about electronics in general, experiment and learn, before you get down to this specific problem. Another way is to start exploring from the repair side of things and work your way into the topic of electronics repair by troubleshooting this specific problem.
Your problem is most likely caused by a short somewhere on the board. So I would suggest you learn about short circuits or "shorts" for short (duh) and how to find shorts in general, and then work your way down to how to find shorts on mobile phones specifically.
Rizzi87 said:
I am a novice when it comes to electronics and can easily try to recover the data through some specialists but the satisfaction in getting it done myself is priceless!
So any kind of help would be immensely appreciated.
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I know that feeling. I'm wired the same way. If I can, I will try to repair and fix things on my own. Sometimes I will take on things I hardly know anything about. I will try anyway and learn in the process. Some things are admittedly more difficult than others. But that's how you learn and grow your knowledge base.
People no longer repair things. They throw out the old and broken things, and just keep on buying new things like on conveyor belt. This is not good in by any means. The biggest negative impact of this I think is that people stop using their head. They begin to believe that everything in the world is automatic. A light bulb is the result of true magic, especially when you throw in smart home plugs and switches into the equation. People are slowly being turned into slaves of consumerism. Common knowledge diminishes, like what household products you can use to remove stains, and we only live to serve a higher purpose of capitalism.
Do you have the service manual for this phone? You can usually find these online free of charge. Do you have a multimeter? The first tool you should buy and learn to use is a multimeter. Learn about the continuity test, diode mode, and how to measure voltage.
I worked as an electrician and I felt like I had to ask about how to measure voltage at a resistor, because I was unsure and didn't want to risk damaging a board more than it already is. As an electrician, I worked with voltages relative to Earth ground. I never worked with electronics, although I did get basic electronics training and I know all the basic components and how they work. We worked with soldering iron as well, and learned to use an oscilloscope. I was best in class at soldering. This was a long time ago though. We programmed PLCs, made Delta and Y-configuration connections of three phase electric motors, worked with relays and contactors, and we learned a whole load of other useful things.
My point is, always ask someone more knowledgeable and experienced if you're in doubt about something, rather than taking a risk or gambling. This is much more important of course when working with unforgiving high voltages and high currents, so as an electrician I learned early on to respect electricity. This was all part of my training and thankfully I have never had any accident. It's OK to make mistakes, and you're bound to make mistakes when experimenting, but you better have a backup plan and put in some kind of safety net, to protect yourself and to protect your equipment or whatever it is you're working on.
R7027 said:
What do you mean by superficial repair? What made you suspect the charging cable?
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The USB connector on the charging cable I was temporarily using sometime back had a flimsy connector and I suspect the loose connection might have caused 'spikes' and maybe shorted some components/mobo.
I had dropped this phone on numerous occassions and almost everytime the ribbon connector for the LCD would come loose since the connector on the board was a bit wonky. I used to check this and get the phone working again. This is what I meant by superficial repair.
R7027 said:
Kaput? I know that word. That's a German word for broken. I wonder if he told you this because he wanted to repair the components on the board, or because he wanted to toss out the old board and install a new board and call it repaired.
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Nah. He simply didn't bother about repairing or even replacing it on the basis that parts are hard to come by!
R7027 said:
So you already tested with a new battery. Good! That's one of the first things I would do as well. GSM Arena says the battery is "Li-Ion 2100 mAh, removable". At least you didn't need to send it in or leave it to a repair shop to replace the battery. I remember the time when you could replace the battery of your phone yourself. That in itself was very satisfactory. Those were great times! Those times are gone. Now you have to pay a premium to replace a battery. It's "complicated" they say, and so it's not for everyone (or anyone).
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YEs, I thought the battery maight be the culprit but alas, it turned out to be a problem with the mobo.
R7027 said:
Hotter than what's usual for a phone that's charging? If it's shorted, charging may damage it further. You can test it of course, but you're risking it. Don't test charge for longer than you need to, preferably not at all as soon as you realize there's something wrong with the device. There's the risk of battery leaking or catching fire. So be careful and don't leave it unsupervised.
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Hotter than usual, yes. I have tested and/or repeated the scenario only couple of times so as to not risk any further damage.
R7027 said:
Do you have the service manual for this phone? You can usually find these online free of charge. Do you have a multimeter? The first tool you should buy and learn to use is a multimeter. Learn about the continuity test, diode mode, and how to measure voltage.
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I have invested in a multimeter, soldering iron and supplies and a heat gun. I do also have a manual for the phone and it has helped me partially.
Rizzi87 said:
The USB connector on the charging cable I was temporarily using sometime back had a flimsy connector and I suspect the loose connection might have caused 'spikes' and maybe shorted some components/mobo.
I had dropped this phone on numerous occassions and almost everytime the ribbon connector for the LCD would come loose since the connector on the board was a bit wonky. I used to check this and get the phone working again. This is what I meant by superficial repair.
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Thanks for clarifying.
Now that you mention it, one of my charging cable was a bit flimsy as well. Might be what happened with my phone as well. The connector would wiggle left and right so I would have to make sure it points straight into the port and rotate the phone left and right to make sure it's not tugging on it as I put it down on a book shelf. I always charge my phones on this book shelf as the power outlet is close by.
I have actually four identical Samsung 15 W chargers sitting there, all for the Galaxy S7. Three white ones and one black, and each with its own charging cable. I had purchased some extra chargers just as spares, and one of the chargers had a bit flimsy connection, as you say. I actually once spotted that one of the 4 pins on one of the charging cables was too short, and because of it, it was not charging fast enough. I stripped it down to bare wires, all for science and learning, before throwing it away.
On another occasion, I discovered that one of these cables didn't want to charge my phone when combined with one of the four chargers. It was a perfectly fine looking cable. The same cable worked well on the other three identical chargers though. So this was a bit of mystery I had never seen before. That will remain a mystery. That same charger also worked well when combines with other cables. So both the charger and the cable worked well, but only with others, not with each other. Note that these were all original Samsung chargers and cables. The "travel adapter", model EP-TA20EWE. They all came in original Samsung retail packaging. Although the spare chargers I purchased did have a bit stiffer and thicker cables, when compared to the original that came with the phone. They were presumably made in later years, so Samsung had probably changed them up a little bit.
But this goes to show that there is more to a cable and a charger than meets the eye. I suspect it had something to do with lack of compatibility across the many charging protocols that are in circulation in the fast charging universe, like Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 vs. 3.0 vs. USB Power Delivery 2.0 vs. what-have-you.
So you're not wrong to suspect something as "simple" as a charging cable. Not even a cable can be left alone, they have to make it "smart" and complicated. If the cable doesn't know how to talk the language of the charger, it's useless. Or worse, it can destroy a device. All because industry wants to satisfy inpatient people that want fast charging, and so instead of 1 standard, they make 4 different ones, if Apple Lighting-whatever is included. By the way, the faster you charger a battery, the faster it will lose its capacity and die out.
Rizzi87 said:
Nah. He simply didn't bother about repairing or even replacing it on the basis that parts are hard to come by!
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That depends where you look and how determined you are.
I ordered a new S535 power IC for my Galaxy S7 from Germany via Ebay, and I received it last week. I don't have the exact dates, but it arrived within the same week, so about three to five days. From Germany to Sweden. I also ordered three of the same chip from a supplier in UK, also via Ebay, and it has yet to arrive. This has to do with Royal Mail strikes, so everything is delayed. In addition, I had to pay customs fee and import tax from the UK. Not sure if it will be held at Customs service and delayed even more because of this, or if it will be delivered straight to my mail box since the UK supplier made sure I can pay upfront so it can be cleared for delivery. So I will have 4 of these in total.
Let me give you another example. I have an older car that's well looked after and only driven occasionally. A few years back, it started leaking oil from the rear axis. I went to the authorized repair shop. They told me they had to either replace the differential or rebuild it. But because it's an old timer, there are no parts for it readily available. This is a BMW car and BMW has a good reputation for stock keeping parts for old models for a long time. Well, maybe they don't keep a stock of big parts such as differentials. But it's not true that it's not available. I looked it up online and found several car stripping companies that have a number of these parts to pick and choose from, some of which were in almost new condition. So if they really wanted to, they could have ordered in from there. This is where small and independent auto repair shops order from as well. I even offered to order it myself and deliver to them. But they could not make the needed arrangements. Or rather, they didn't want to. I understood the message. They can't be bothered with something as heavy, oily, dirty, difficult, skill demanding, and time consuming as a differential replacement... and a rebuild is probably as distant as science fiction to them. I never went back there. I used to go to them for years and was always happy. Since they changed the owner and relocated, it's a completely different company. I would never again go to an "authorized" repair shop. They are properly titled "car dealers", because they are more interested in selling you a new car or a used car than repairing your old one.
It's the same with phone companies like Samsung and these places they call "Support Center" where you can walk in to get support and service on the device you already own, and they put up their latest "flagship" models on display and under your nose. That's how you know you're in the wrong place. It's all sell, sell, sell.
Rizzi87 said:
I have invested in a multimeter, soldering iron and supplies and a heat gun. I do also have a manual for the phone and it has helped me partially.
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Make sure to get the needle-like test leads for it. This is needed for probing and measuring tiny components. The ones that came with my multimeter were very good, but they were not fit for the job, because they are not thin enough at the top. Most of the standard test leads have blunt tips. I ordered a pair from Amazon, a complete kit actually, but they are not very good. The whole kit was very cheap and I could not find any other, higher quality, more expensive ones. I don't want to promote Amazon, but I can post a link if you want.
A heat gun might work, but a hot air station is better. You need about 350 C to rework big components like BGA chips. Based on my limited knowledge, but extensive research. You should be able to tell what the temperature is at, and only the more expensive heat "guns" will have a temperature sensor and a digital display.
A service manual is a good resource. I wish I had a complete service manual for Galaxy S7. I looked for a places to buy one but I only found dodgy websites that seemed to be in the business of downloading free manuals, packaging, and selling. So if you have a complete manual, that's better. I only found excerpts of the most important chapters for Galaxy S7, and it has been very useful.
So, umm, there has been no progress on the repair front as I had been away on a trip and got my phone stolen
I was a bit occupied with reporting to the authorities and blocking my phone number hence I couldn't reply earlier.
Btw, I stumbled upon something called as boardview bitmap files; I'm yet to fully explore it but it seems really helpful.

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