Question Third party launchers on S21 Ultra (Exynos) - Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra

Hello everybody.
I noticed there are some issues trying to use third party launchers such as NOVA or SmartLauncher.
Or, at least, that's what happens to me with the One UI 3.1.
I've been using NOVA since my first NEXUS and since then, moving to S7 up to the Note 10, even after choosing to be part of the Beta Testing Program, I've never had problems.
Now there are some laggy and crash issues. With both of the launchers aforementioned.
I don't know if this is due to the choice of using gestures instead on the buttons in the navigation bar (it doesn't look like, considering I tried to change) but it causes strange "movements" everytime I go back home: like the launcher restarts itself, if you know what I mean.
That never happened on my last device (the Note 10) with One UI 2.5: that's the reason why I'm seriously thinking it could be a problem of compatibility with the latest stock UI version.
Anybody with the same problem? Same issues? Or this "monster" behaves like it should?
Thank you
Best
IMPORTANT EDIT: I tried again and yes, it is gesture related. Deactivating the gesture navigation bar, everything went back to normal.

Yup, same issue. Flashes white after the next immediate touch action, blocking whatever that action was. Doesn't affect the stock launcher. I reported it to Samsung through their members app. Had to switch off of gesture navigation because of it. Dunno if the other gesture navigation is broken but I'm on buttons again.
I'm using good lock one hand operation + and FNG to compensate so left and right are still back. Swipe up is home and swipe up hold is recents.

Well the issue is with Google's gesture implementation. I am facing the issue with gestures too and contacted Nova launcher support and they have blamed google for it.
Its true, disabling gestures, everything works fine. I hope someone will find a solution to this.

I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.

mattlcfc said:
I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.
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Maybe it's only affecting launchers with the Google feed

I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?

blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
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I've been using Apex Launcher Classic for years without issue and icon packs to customize (Desaturate pack is current favorite)
Works just fine with UI 3.1
I don't use the Gesture mode

blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
I distinctly remember there being similar issues with my s10+ at launch, so hopefully be fixed in the future

mtm1401 said:
I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
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The last point is true however the first two aren't for me. No issues with widgets or Task changer.
The white icon label lettering irritates me though but it's not not all the trouble comes with 3rd party launchers.

maxito71 said:
Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
Best
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There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?

blackhawk said:
There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?
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Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?

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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?
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Download nova companion

maxito71 said:
Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
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Shape? Round, square... -far- less worse than Google or Apple designs
It's a pain sorting through them but there are good ones in there that most will like... for free.
If you're willing to take the performance and stability hit to have the "shape" well every rose has it's thorns.
2 back to back forced reloads taught me religion

Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.

Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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With navigation gestures or buttons?

Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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Me too! No problems until now!

I have been using nova launcher on my s21 ultra, since i got the phone ( with no gestures, only buttons ).
And i thought i was having a nice experience.
A few days ago i messed up my phone, debloated the wrong apps and had to factory reset. Since i was going with a fresh install i decided to use OneUI + some goodlock modules.
Boy.. i was wrong about the nova experience. Now i know how fluid and responsive the phone is supposed to be.
Anyway, apart from that, this is the official info from NOVA:
Google has made it very clear that they have no plans to completely fix gesture-related issues any time in the near or even distant future.
Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android (stated March 2019).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android 10 and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google have now made it clear that they have no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
Notable issues with gestures on third party launchers include:
• Close all/Clear app button not appearing(scroll all the way to verify it's not there)
• Not being able to tap icons for a short time after returning to the home screen
• Animations not being as fluid as expected
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as we have absolutely no control over it whatsoever.
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Install Hexed from the Play Store. Personalize a theme and in preferences check Navigation Bar Height and set it to 0. In regular Android settings make sure it's set to use the NavBar buttons and not the gestures. Install any third party gestures app that you like. Set up your third party gestures app then restart the phone. Then you'll have fully working third party gestures and everything will work like it used to. This is the only way I have found that fully fixes the gesture issues.

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Lag from home screen to app draw?

Hi all,
As title suggests really, I noticed on my Note 8 that swiping to the app draw and back produces bit of a delay/glitch when flicking between the two, even on high performance mode - Does anyone else have this?
Really annoying as the rest of the device is very smooth but at the minute, my old S6 Edge Plus on android 7 feels just as quick to use, which is disappointing.
The latest update to the launcher on the S8 got rid of that lag and added the ability to pull down notifications with the a swipe down motion anywhere on the home screens. It looks like the launcher on the Note 8 is a little behind so hopefully we'll get that update soon.
I use Nova with no lag.
I use stock and it's the fastest I have ever had on a Sammy between home and app drawer. I regularly swipe up down for fun as it's great to watch. Mybe you have an app slowing you down. Also get DEVELOPER rights in settings and turn off all those 1x speed settings on graphics.
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I use stock and it's the fastest I have ever had on a Sammy between home and app drawer. I regularly swipe up down for fun as it's great to watch. Mybe you have an app slowing you down. Also get DEVELOPER rights in settings and turn off all those 1x speed settings on graphics.
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Odd you mention that as mine is completely stock and I first noticed this when I first turned it on, so I hadn't even started installing my own apps yet.
Maybe I should re-flash it and see if that'll help.

[HowTo] Turn Your Galaxy S9 into a Google Pixel

Turn Your Galaxy S9 into a Google Pixel
Unless you own an Exynos model, there won't be much development on the custom ROM front for the Galaxy S9. But that doesn't mean you have to put up with all of the UI quirks from Samsung Experience (née TouchWiz). With a little work, you can give your S9 a stock Android makeover, even without root.
To be clear, you can't remove TouchWiz. It's baked in to the Galaxy S9's framework, so it's not as simple as installing a custom launcher like Nova or Action. But if you apply several mods in that same vein, you can actually get the Galaxy S9 to look and behave quite similarly to the Pixel 2. From the home screen to the Google Dialer and the Pixel's wallpapers, the following tips will all but turn your S9 into a Pixel.
Tip 1: Install the Pixel 2 Launcher
Installing the Pixel 2 launcher is the biggest step you can take in turning your S9 to a Pixel 2, as it replaces the TouchWiz home screen app with Google's. The launcher isn't available on the Play Store though, so you'll need to sideload the app. To do so, tap on the link below to download the Pixel Launcher APK, then open the file and press "Install" when prompted.
Download Launcher
Note: If you download the APK through Samsung Internet, you shouldn't have any issues. But if you use a different browser like Chrome, you may be prompted to grant the browser permission to install apps. If so, just tap "Settings" on the prompt, then enable the switch at the top of the next screen.
Press your home button after installing the launcher. A prompt should now appear on the bottom of the screen asking which launcher you'd like to use. Tap on "Pixel Launcher" and your home screen will now be almost identical to the one found on the Pixel 2.
Alternatively, you can set Pixel Launcher as your default by going to the Apps menu within Settings if no prompts appear. From there, select "Pixel Launcher," then tap on "Home screen" and choose "Pixel Launcher."
It's worth noting that the newest Pixel 2 Launcher has the added bonus of featuring a functional At a Glance widget, along with Google Now integration, adding tremendously to the Pixel experience while on your Galaxy S9. For more information on this ported version of the Pixel Launcher, check out the link below.
Tip 2: Get the Google Dialer
The Pixel's stock phone app isn't available on the Play Store and will also need to be sideloaded. You can get the newest patched version of the stock Pixel phone app by tapping on the following link, then launching the APK and pressing "Install."
Download Dialer
Once you've installed it, you'll now want to set Pixel's phone app as your default dialer, so head the Apps menu in Settings. Next, tap the three-dot menu icon and select "Default apps," then choose "Calling app." Finally, select "Phone" from the list, which uses a circular blue icon.
Now open the Google Phone app. You'll need to grant it a few permissions to allow the app to access your phone, contacts, and camera, so tap "Allow" when prompted. After granting it access, you'll now be able to make and receive calls through the Google Phone app. To learn more about your new dialer's features, check out our full guide below.
Tip 3: Get the Google Dialer
The Pixel 2 has another Google app called Android Messages to handle texting. While unimpressive at first glance, it features a clean Material Design interface and supports the new RCS Universal Profile for iMessage-like texting on T-Mobile and Sprint. Best of all, this app can be installed directly from the Google Play Store.
Download Android Messages - Play Store
To set the app as your default messenger, simply open Android Messages once you've installed it, then follow the setup prompts. Tap on "Yes" on the confirmation prompt that appears, then you're good to go.
You can also perform the same steps that were done with the calling app to make Android Messages your default app for texting. So if you want to go this route, follow the steps you took in Tip 2 to make the phone app a default. This time select "Messaging app" and choose Android Messages as your primary means of handling SMS messages.
Tip 4 Set Gboard as Your Default Keyboard
The Pixel's primary keyboard, Gboard, is one of the best keyboard apps available right now. This awesome app lets you perform Google searches, share GIFs, and much more — all from within your keyboard. If you're not already using Gboard, now is the perfect time to make the switch, so head over the Play Store or tap on the link below to install the app.
Download GBoard - Play Store
Now, open Gboard and follow the prompts. Tap on "Select Input Method" and choose the one labeled "Gboard" to make it your default keyboard. Finish up by giving it permission to access your contacts by tapping "Allow" on the prompt, then exit the app. After you're done, Gboard will now pop up automatically whenever you need to type something.
If you've grown accustomed to the built-in number row that comes with the Samsung keyboard, fret not, you can add it to Gboard in the app's settings. And that's just the tip of the iceberg, as Gboard has tons of cool features that's sure to impress once you've given it a try. Feel free to head to the link below if you'd like to learn more about Gboard.
Tip 5 Browse the Web with Chrome
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While your Galaxy S9 may not be able to run true stock Android, this method gets you as close as currently possible to the experience you would have with the Pixel's minimalist OS. How are you liking the Pixel experience on your S9 so far?
Why don't you buy an pixel instead?
ion1s said:
Why don't you buy an pixel instead?
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f1.5 camera, sd 845 (if in the us) etc.
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f1.5 camera, sd 845 (if in the us) etc.
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And not everybody like the Touchwiz Launcher and other Samsung Apps.
Or somebody like the Samsung Hardware and the Pixel Software.
There are some reasons for somebody.
Xperience Z said:
And not everybody like the Touchwiz Launcher and other Samsung Apps.
Or somebody like the Samsung Hardware and the Pixel Software.
There are some reasons for somebody.
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Trust me. I wish a XDA would work with a manufacturer and release one XDA branded phone.
This is from here, right? https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/turn-your-galaxy-s9-into-google-pixel-0182948/
Yes it is but the mods have forbidden me to post the extern link
Unable to use dialer with two sims
Hi i am using the exynos version of the galaxy s9 plus. I am unable to use the google dialer for my second sim. The dialer doesnt show two call buttons for two differnt sims. Please help
Thanks for this thread. I am loving the google experience on my s9plus. Althiugh i am using the nova launcher instead of the pixel launcher.
To each his own, but Nova is for me (and many, many others) a far better launcher than Google's, and Swiftkey has the best prediction engine by far. And all the Samsung apps can be easily themed dark, unlike Google's versions which insist on being blindingly white.
ion1s said:
Why don't you buy an pixel instead?
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For me, the lack of wireless charging is what made me pick the Samsung over the pixel. I love just having the charging puck to set the phone on.
Claghorn said:
For me, the lack of wireless charging is what made me pick the Samsung over the pixel. I love just having the charging puck to set the phone on.
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Then, why you need to slow the phone with stupid launchers?
The omission of wireless charging was hugely disappointing when Google announced the Pixel 2 (and when they announced the first Pixel, for that matter). Many of us have been wirelessly charging for 5+ years. Even mediocre cars are coming with wireless charging pads in them. Google surely would have sold many more Pixel phones had they included Qi, as there are plenty of Samsung owners like me who don't really WANT a Samsung, we just want the best hardware and keep ending up with a Samsung device.
I have no clue what ion1s is going on about. He asks why you would slow down the phone with stupid launchers... pretty sure the answer is obvious (Nova is 100x better than TouchWiz, for one). I honestly feel sorry for people that use a Galaxy with the default launcher and default 4x4 grid homescreen layout. Like, wow your 6.2" screen has a whole 8 icons you can put on your homescreen since the clock takes up 4x2. And the dock + dots take up the entire bottom 1/3rd of the screen. Pathetic. These 2:1 ratio screens are perfect for a 7x5 desktop grid with 7 dock icons. That's 42 usable areas of the homescreen (with half increments too) compared to the anemic 16 with TouchWiz (no half increments, and can you choose 4x5 or higher in TouchWiz now? I honestly haven't used TouchWiz on any of my dozen Samsung devices ever, especially since my first Samsung was the Galaxy Nexus). Default TouchWiz homescreen is like those universal remote controls or calculators with HUGE buttons - great for old people that have terrible vision, useless for everyone else...yet people keep their default launcher, default icons, default wallpaper, default ringtone, etc. I see it all the time, even people my age in their 30's that are seemingly good with technology....their phone will ring and it's the default Verizon ring-tone and default everything on their phone...these people should just get an iPhone since they don't even know options or settings exist on their device.
ion1s said:
Why don't you buy an pixel instead?
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It is a fair question. If I were looking at S9 Plus vs Pixel 2 XL, I may have gotten the XL. However I determined I didn't want a phone any bigger than the Nexus 5X I had at the time. Others have stated other reasons that also matter to me (wireless charging, camera). S9 also has a bigger battery and an SD card slot. But my biggest reason was the S9 has a 5.8" screen versus the 5.0" of the Pixel 2, while being marginally larger than the pixel but still smaller than the Nexus 5X.
I can live with having to strip out the Samsung bloat and waiting a little longer for android updates.
snake2332 said:
The omission of wireless charging was hugely disappointing when Google announced the Pixel 2 (and when they announced the first Pixel, for that matter). Many of us have been wirelessly charging for 5+ years. Even mediocre cars are coming with wireless charging pads in them. Google surely would have sold many more Pixel phones had they included Qi, as there are plenty of Samsung owners like me who don't really WANT a Samsung, we just want the best hardware and keep ending up with a Samsung device.
I have no clue what ion1s is going on about. He asks why you would slow down the phone with stupid launchers... pretty sure the answer is obvious (Nova is 100x better than TouchWiz, for one). I honestly feel sorry for people that use a Galaxy with the default launcher and default 4x4 grid homescreen layout. Like, wow your 6.2" screen has a whole 8 icons you can put on your homescreen since the clock takes up 4x2. And the dock + dots take up the entire bottom 1/3rd of the screen. Pathetic. These 2:1 ratio screens are perfect for a 7x5 desktop grid with 7 dock icons. That's 42 usable areas of the homescreen (with half increments too) compared to the anemic 16 with TouchWiz (no half increments, and can you choose 4x5 or higher in TouchWiz now? I honestly haven't used TouchWiz on any of my dozen Samsung devices ever, especially since my first Samsung was the Galaxy Nexus). Default TouchWiz homescreen is like those universal remote controls or calculators with HUGE buttons - great for old people that have terrible vision, useless for everyone else...yet people keep their default launcher, default icons, default wallpaper, default ringtone, etc. I see it all the time, even people my age in their 30's that are seemingly good with technology....their phone will ring and it's the default Verizon ring-tone and default everything on their phone...these people should just get an iPhone since they don't even know options or settings exist on their device.
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LOL, I actually looked at TouchWiz for all of 10 seconds when I received the phone just to see if anything had changed. Amazingly, on what I noticed in that short time, Samsung has managed to keep the same crappy launcher seemingly unchanged since I first used it years ago. Like you, I'm amazed that anyone actually uses it considering it's lack of any features.
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Hi, just to contribute about the discussion "why didn't you but a Pixel in the first place?".... I'm a big fan of pure stock Android and Google experience, but I just got an S9 because it's very popular over here, so I was able to find it at a very very good price from my carrier.
At some point I'll just flash a custom rom such as LOS, but for the time being I'd like to keep my warranty and just installing key apps.
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Tip 2: Get the Google Dialer
The Pixel's stock phone app isn't available on the Play Store and will also need to be sideloaded. You can get the newest patched version of the stock Pixel phone app by tapping on the following link, then launching the APK and pressing "Install."
Download Dialer
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Hi, thanks for these tips. May I ask you a bit more info about the dialer APK link you posted? Does it have any mod, or is it similar the the one available on apkmirror? Did you made it or just repost something which was already available?
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clem_ita said:
Hi, just to contribute about the discussion "why didn't you but a Pixel in the first place?".... I'm a big fan of pure stock Android and Google experience, but I just got an S9 because it's very popular over here, so I was able to find it at a very very good price from my carrier.
At some point I'll just flash a custom rom such as LOS, but for the time being I'd like to keep my warranty and just installing key apps.
Hi, thanks for these tips. May I ask you a bit more info about the dialer APK link you posted? Does it have any mod, or is it similar the the one available on apkmirror? Did you made it or just repost something which was already available?
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It's pretty much a repost of this page so it's not something the OP made.
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/turn-your-galaxy-s9-into-google-pixel-0182948/
Has anyone else been having trouble with the patched Google dialer app force closing on their SD S9?
ChauncyG said:
Has anyone else been having trouble with the patched Google dialer app force closing on their SD S9?
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I haven't. I didn't get the one posted here but I do use the same version and have used that version for my Honor 8 and now my S9.
Tel864 said:
I haven't. I didn't get the one posted here but I do use the same version and have used that version for my Honor 8 and now my S9.
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Thanks for your response. Now that I know it's possible to work as it should I'll keep digging into things to see if I can get this right.

Android 10 gestures

Hello!
Just updated to Android 10 and switched to the new gesture navigation and I love it. The inconvenience is that they seem to work only with the stock launcher which is terrible. Any workaround this issue ?
Well, i got Android 10 update yesterday (not beta but official live version). I use Nova launcher prime. Somehow gestures work - at least back button, to the home screen button and last used apps button all work. Double tap to open Bixby works too for me in Nova. I did Android upgrade, without phone reset.
NB! Nova launcher states in settings, that gestures don't work...but like i said, they work for me.
Such a shame that Samsung still makes a crappy launcher with no special features.
I guess we'll have to wait for updates, the pixel 4 got an update that made gestures work with 3rd party launchers.
I'm the same (Nova Prime), and my gestures are just as they were pre-upgrade - which I'm kind of happy about. But I just don't quite understand why! I didn't think launcher would affect it.
I'm sure that after Android 10 goes final you'll see a lot of apps update. I can understand a developer not wanting to spend a lot of time developing an app for beta compatibility. Even Samsung waits on their own apps while in beta, e.g. Good Lock.
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I'm sure that after Android 10 goes final you'll see a lot of apps update. I can understand a developer not wanting to spend a lot of time developing an app for beta compatibility. Even Samsung waits on their own apps while in beta, e.g. Good Lock.
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Erm...don't know if you are aware but the beta program is over,the final software is available via OTA update, I am not running a beta version of the software .
And Samsung just implemented Android 10's gesture navigation, which is available since September.

OneUI/Android10 OTA too buggy?

Judging by the numerous complaints of issues with the new A10 updates, it looks like OneUI with Android 10 is NOT ready to replace Android9, yet it's rolling out as OTA upgrades. I predict it won't be long before people regret this new update and want to roll back to A9. I have a U1 variant and haven't gotten a prompt to update yet. It seem like a good time to fire up adb and disable the packages that are responsible for updates.
Anybody love the new OneUI w/A10 they got on their N9 via OTA? What's good about it?
I haven't had any issues and know a few others that haven't as well, but we are a small amoint of people, so yeah.
I really don't feel a difference between Android 9 and 10 with the exception of how dark mode is implemented now. That's honestly it for me. Battery life for me on the Note 8 and 9 have always been meh, but so has every other phone for me with the small exception of the Xperia Z Ultra and LG Optimus something big. Whatever the big one was.
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I went back to Android 9 a couple days ago. To me, and this is just my opinion, 10 feels like 9 to me. And the sad thing is Samsung considers this a major update so that means the 9 will not see anymore other then security patches.
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butchieboy said:
I went back to Android 9 a couple days ago. To me, and this is just my opinion, 10 feels like 9 to me. And the sad thing is Samsung considers this a major update so that means the 9 will not see anymore other then security patches.
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Google did state that Android 10 would be a significant improvement over Android Pie. Whether that is the case or not we have yet to be certain. But it is safe to say that Android Pie for the Note 9 will not be receiving any security patches now. As Samsung will only be releasing patches for Android 10 for the Note 9 from now on.
That is what I meant. 10 patches not Pie
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On 10 and loving it. Miss a few good lock options. Battery life has been great while gaming compared to 9. I read a lot of posts here and have not run across any issues yet.
This is what I am waiting for, more news of good or bad experiences with A10. I am very happy on A9 (I have U1 variant) and I dont want to click update yet because I like it how it is. I hate that they stop security patches tho. Dark mode means squat, I have themes that work for that. I also use good lock features alot. I guess I will keep postponing the update till I see more threads about it. The silence is weird, normally there are pages of complaints after a new version comes out.
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Iv been on 10 for awhile now, and i have noticed its a little sluggish. Flashed in odin, then i performed a factory reset and it is still sluggish. Hoping for an update soon
Yeah, comparing A10 to A9 (stock) is a different comparison than OneUI A10 to OneUI A9 (Samsung's) ... and that is because one of the major differences with stock Android is that A10 finally integrated dark mode.... But Samsung did that with OneUI on A9, sooo... I have OneUI with Android 9, everything is dark, it all looks good, and I like it. Also, nothing seems buggy.
It doesn't look like there is any reason at all to upgrade to OneUI w/A10, unless I like to take my chances and see if Samsung bugged up a rushed release.
I actually really, really, hate white apps. So if OneUI with A10 integrates dark mode into apps much better than it does with A9, then I would consider the upgrade, for Google apps like gmail, maps, docs, etc.
Good points from all. It's not that Android 10 is bad, it just doesnt seem much different then Android 9. For me the gestures were horrible. I'm sure peeps like them but just not for me.
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Android 10 OTA has been great for me - getting better battery life and everything smooth and fluid. No problems whatsoever, and I just did the upgrade OTA, no clean wipe or anything like that (thankfully). Did use Galaxy Labs App Optimiser and I do believe apps open noticeably faster afterwards.
P.S. Still using navigation gestures as I was on 9 and notice little difference.
How are the gestures in 10 different from 9?
I have no buttons on my screen. Bottom right corner swipe up goes back to previous screen. Bottom middle swipe up goes to home screen. Bottom left swipe up shows all running apps.
Is OneUI/A10 different than that?
Someone can tell me how is the volume on Android 10 compared to Android 9? Is it louder or similar?
gruuvin said:
How are the gestures in 10 different from 9?
I have no buttons on my screen. Bottom right corner swipe up goes back to previous screen. Bottom middle swipe up goes to home screen. Bottom left swipe up shows all running apps.
Is OneUI/A10 different than that?
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i think you are using 3rd party launchers? because the new full gestures can only be used on samaung one ui launcher
I am in San Francisco, with unlocked US Note 9, and have not received A10 update.
Has anyone on here in the bay area received it?
If needed, point me to another thread for this question.
chacho_2me said:
i think you are using 3rd party launchers? because the new full gestures can only be used on samaung one ui launcher
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Stock full screen gestures (no buttons showing) in settings > display > navigation bar. This is built into OneUI/A9
gruuvin said:
Stock full screen gestures (no buttons showing) in settings > display > navigation bar. This is built into OneUI/A9
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so you mean to say you dont have the new full screen gestures of android 10?
bdw your fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps?
I've had A10 for a few days now, and besides one small glitch (commas and periods are doubled when I press the icons, and sometimes the space doubles also using the space bar), I've had no issues with it.
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so you mean to say you dont have the new full screen gestures of android 10?
bdw your fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps?
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I mean to say that I am running stock A9/OneUI with fullscreen gestures built into the OS (not from a third-party app), and from what people are describing about the fullscreen gestures in A10/OneUI, they are not any different. And yes, my fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps--no software buttons.
Ive found that A10 and UI2, cannot handle gestures and fullscreen mode any where near as well as A9 UI1.
Ive tried A10 twice now and both times, from a full wipe, the fullscreen/immersive mode messes up the A10 gestures. Whereas A9 can run fullscreen (no buttons, no taskbar, full immersive for all apps) and use gestures without any issue, and with just one swipe.
You try using proper fullscreen/immersive on A10 with gestures, and it takes two swipes to do anything, and Edge Panel Apps just gets ruined, as you cannot swipe open any more. There must be some conflict in Fullscreen/Immersive mode.
I use bxactions to toggle Fullscreen/Immersive from the Bixby button.

Nova Launcher issues?

Anyone else using Nova Launcher on the Pixel 5? It seems to redraw when swiping up and keeps going back to pixel launcher every so often.
Is this just an android 11 issue?
It happened the same to me with lawnchair. The 3rd party launcher occasionally crashes, so it loses default status and the pixel launcher comes back.
I installed after the latest beta of lawnchair and the problem is gone.
I'm still on my Pixel 2 XL on Android 11 and have no problems with Nova Launcher. If there really is a problem with Nova Launcher, I imagine there will be an update coming soon.
no problems here with the nova launcher beta
It's doing it on mine regularly, I'm on the beta as well.
Are you using the gesture navigation?
Nova seems fine here as well (using latest Play Store release)
I had issues yesterday on my pixel 5 however i restarted the phone and selected "always" for the nova launcher and seems fine now.
had this issue too, but it works fine since i set it as the default launcher in the system settings two times. From there on, no more occourences of the pixel launcher at all
There are definitely issues with Nova and Lawnchair as launchers for this. Tried the latest stable and beta versions for both with no difference.
They redraw the homescreen apps when you come in and out of the multi-tasking app view.
People saying they are not having issues are likely just not noticing it, as it happens in a really quick blip - but it's enough to be annoying once you notice it the first time.
It doesn't always result in Pixel Launcher resetting to the default launcher - most of the time if you just see you homescreen apps flash in and out is all.
Agreed. It all works but it's not perfect by any means. Don't forget the additional delay while the task switcher realises it needs to shift to the right to show the first app. Shame really. It was enough to make me stick to the stock launcher.
Nova is total bugged right now, but this ist mainly causes by Android itself.
https://help.teslacoilapps.com/faq/gesture-navigation
Had mine since last wednesday and ran Nova since the start, not had one issue with it?
Sorry but i cant believe you.
I am able to reproduce several issues.
Example, complete GUI does not respond to the first click after App minimize and you can see it refreshes the Launcher GUI.
https://youtu.be/4GfQri5Hw2U
Had it since day I don't experience any issues as well.
It's not perfect but I'm still using it. Nova can't do anything about it. I prefer a slightly buggy Nova over stock launcher.
The issue is caused by gestures from doing some digging around. If you use on screen buttons, it will work fine. Something for Google to fix in the code... again!
Well for me its working, you just have to set Google pixel launcher as default and then change to nova launcher.
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Nova is total bugged right now, but this ist mainly causes by Android itself.
https://help.teslacoilapps.com/faq/gesture-navigation
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I'm using Nova with full gesture control.
Guitarfreak26 said:
Anyone else using Nova Launcher on the Pixel 5? It seems to redraw when swiping up and keeps going back to pixel launcher every so often.
Is this just an android 11 issue?
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I started using the Beta on my Pixel 2 and tried on my 3. On both phones, I had the issue of Nova losing default, and would have to launch it or restart. Eventually the issue went away by itself, after about 3 days. Same thing happened on Beta 10 as well.
Cicada1o1 said:
The issue is caused by gestures from doing some digging around. If you use on screen buttons, it will work fine. Something for Google to fix in the code... again!
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I experienced the same problems with gestures on. Changed to on screen buttons all is good.

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