I know the P30 Pro has a 5x optical zoom, and anything over 5x is digital.
If I pinch and zoom to, say, 2.3x, is that basically 1x with some digital zoom?
Yes it is only digital. A lens in a smartphone normally only has one zoom range. The P30 Pro has 1x and 5x as I know
Sort of. 4X mixes 5X and 1X. It gives the 5X and then merges in the 1X digital zoom for the borders. If you compare the center of the image to the edges, you'll notice.
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The 2x button is not actually switching cameras, it is just preforming a digital zoom on the wide camera.
I placed a piece of electrical tape over the long range lens, in 1x I can see clearly, in 2x I can see clearly (but digitally zoomed in)
Only in Live Focus is the camera blocked by the electrical tape.
So my question is, is Live Focus the only way to use the second camera?
Seems like a waste of a second camera. This is not how it was handled on other dual camera phones, what gives Samsung?
https://www.slashgear.com/note-8-camera-5-things-you-need-to-know-23496299/
And as per Slashgear: Instead, just as we’ve seen on the iPhone 7 Plus, Samsung mixes together the data from the wide-angle and telephoto lenses on the Note 8 to give the effect of a zoom. The result is the equivalent of 2x optical zoom, completely lossless, as well as a 10x digital zoom.
Going from 1x to 2x is an optical zoom on the wide angel camera, not digital. Beyond 2x is digital zoom.
Nowhere did Samsung claim that going from 1x to 2x was done by switching cameras.
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https://www.cnet.com/how-to/getting-to-know-the-samsung-galaxy-note-8-dual-camera-features/
They insist the 2x button triggers the other camera.
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The Cnet reviewer is mistaken on the 1x to 2x camera switching.
As stated above, the test is pretty simple to figure out which lens is being used.
I noticed when taking regular shots it seems like the 2x button only does a digital zoom not does not actually use the telephoto lens, is this how its supposed to work ?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3677214
It's for live focus, and 2x zoom + digital zoom. Depending on quality of lighting, either telephoto or wide angle lens will be used.
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Hi all, by night and in low light the camera app disable zoom lens and uses numeric zoom only when pressing 3x button. Is there any way to force optical zoom even in low light
No, because the aperture is too narrow for low light on the zoom lens.
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No, because the aperture is too narrow for low light on the zoom lens.
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In that case, no body had thinked about a way to force optical zoom, because it is a software which decide to switch between lenses
ketman5001 said:
In that case, no body had thinked about a way to force optical zoom, because it is a software which decide to switch between lenses
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In low light, it would be a horrible mess. And when it's closer than it's minimum focussing distance there is no point as it can't focus. So the software prevents its use to give a more consistent quality to the results from the camera because most people just point and shoot.
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Does samsung and apple have the same limitation with their optical zoom lenses
They will have shorter minimum focus distances because of the shorter focal length on a 2x lens, but they will have similar issues with aperture in low light.
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Does samsung and apple have the same limitation with their optical zoom lenses
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Yes, both the S9 plus and the Note 8 use digital zoom in anything but optimal light, and I am pretty sure I read that the iphone does the same.
The only plus to the P20 Pro doing it is the digital zoom is from a 40MP sensor which is the biggest on a smartphone so you get comparable quality to a zoom lens.
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Yes, both the S9 plus and the Note 8 use digital zoom in anything but optimal light, and I am pretty sure I read that the iphone does the same.
The only plus to the P20 Pro doing it is the digital zoom is from a 40MP sensor which is the biggest on a smartphone so you get comparable quality to a zoom lens.
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How did you know that 40 mp is used when optical zoom is not available, because when using 40 mp mode, digital zooming will be unavailable
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How did you know that 40 mp is used when optical zoom is not available, because when using 40 mp mode, digital zooming will be unavailable
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Digital zoom is cropped 40mp
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It would be nice to use the zoom lens in low light while in pro mode... dont you think?
mathab said:
It would be nice to use the zoom lens in low light while in pro mode... dont you think?
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No because the noise reduction would destroy it.
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it would be great. if i want to use optical zoom in low light why not in pro mode/ some force button to use optical. if i can use tripod and low iso it's my choice which kind of lens i want to use.
siddagivers said:
it would be great. if i want to use optical zoom in low light why not in pro mode/ some force button to use optical. if i can use tripod and low iso it's my choice which kind of lens i want to use.
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Absolutely
Is there a way to get the Super Macro mode to work using the 5X lens?
On the P30, I can use the 3X zoom lens with super macro, but on the P30 pro, I can't and can use the 1X at best.
So the P30 can zoom in much further in super macro mode.
The best lens for super macro is the wide-angle
Super Macro is based on the ability of the camera to focus at a short distance - the way the 5x telephoto lens has been configured is with the aim of long-distance focus, so it physically cannot focus on something closer than a certain distance. I've not tested it myself, but believe it to be about 1m-1.5m away from the phone.
As above, though, the wide angle lens makes for the best Macro shots in my testing.
Is anybody else experiencing the issue of when taking photos between 1x and 5x zoom (ie: 2.8x zoom) the colors become washed out and very grey looking. However, when taking photos right at 1x or 5x the colors revert back to vibrant hues. Its bothering me a lot. I am considering returning the phone tomorrow. Are there any fixes for it?
Its because you're cropping so you'll lose quality and with sub-optimal lighting, some colour
Between 1 and 5x is pure digital zoom.
Personally I dont bother with that unless its a well lit outdoor shot.
10x is a tuned hybrid zoom but I dont know if between 5 and 10 is hybrid too.
Again I dont bother and just reposition myself to either use 1x, 5x or 10x.
Again 10x and to a lesser extent 5x requires good lighting conditions.
The P30 Pro produces some amazing shots that no other device can pull off, but it's not a Pixel.
The software will not help you as much as Google's does, so you will need to think about things like positioning, shade, light metering and all the other stuff that the Pixel seems to do effortlessly.
Put some thought into it and you'll get amazing photos. A tripod can work wonders too
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Its because you're cropping so you'll lose quality and with sub-optimal lighting, some colour
Between 1 and 5x is pure digital zoom.
Personally I dont bother with that unless its a well lit outdoor shot.
10x is a tuned hybrid zoom but I dont know if between 5 and 10 is hybrid too.
Again I dont bother and just reposition myself to either use 1x, 5x or 10x.
Again 10x and to a lesser extent 5x requires good lighting conditions.
The P30 Pro produces some amazing shots that no other device can pull off, but it's not a Pixel.
The software will not help you as much as Google's does, so you will need to think about things like positioning, shade, light metering and all the other stuff that the Pixel seems to do effortlessly.
Put some thought into it and you'll get amazing photos. A tripod can work wonders too
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Nope, it's not just a matter of cropping, but image processing is worse between 1x - 5x zoom.
It become very noticeable in indoor lighting, especially skin tone. Color is grey and too many noise.
But in outdoor, it is not noticeable.
I think it is software issue.
In the time being, I would prefer to shoot at 1x and crop it manually to get the zoom I need. It is far better.
Or go directly to 5x.
This of why I always edit afterwards.