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Questions coming from the AT&T S2

I wanted the Note to begin with but went with the S2. I'm in the process of selling my S2 now on CL. I have a few questions first:
1. How's the GPS?
2. ANy issues with AT&T(i assume I can just pop my AT&T SIM in and be good to go).
3. Do market apps work fine with the Notes big screen or do they look crappy because they weren't meant for a large screen?
4. How's every one generally liking the phone? How is it to make calls on (holding up to ones face not via BT).
Info is needed:
I'm on a unlimited 4G plan with AT&T (already using the S2 now) <-----not sure if this matters
Anything else would be excellent. Thanks again guys. Looking to get this then throw a ROM on for speed, remove bloat, tethering (should already be unlocked since not a carrier version) and cleanness.

I have found that it works EXACTLY like the GSII. The screen has one more row for shortcuts.
You'll not notice any difference, other than the enormous size difference. I have huge hands, so the size doesn't matter to me. It's actually quite comfortable.
I just hope some better cases come out for it. There is nothing but crap available now.

Thank you for your thoughts on the device. I'm looking to get one ASAP. Espically since that and the S2 will get ICS in Q1 2012. I know the international versions will get it much quicker then the carrier (AT&T, etc) locked down versions.

GPS is best on the market, literally. its using a new setup that allows for access to many more satellites and locks on better than most dedicated GPS units.
apps are hit and miss. some scale fully, some dont scale at all. theres an app to resize apps though.
i dont use BT when i make calls. its a good sized phone. only downside is that there is a fair bit of leakage out of the earpiece, ie. people around you can often hear both sides of the conversation.

Souai said:
GPS is best on the market, literally. its using a new setup that allows for access to many more satellites and locks on better than most dedicated GPS units.
apps are hit and miss. some scale fully, some dont scale at all. theres an app to resize apps though.
i dont use BT when i make calls. its a good sized phone. only downside is that there is a fair bit of leakage out of the earpiece, ie. people around you can often hear both sides of the conversation.
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What is the app that resizes? Does the resizing make it look distorted? How's the facebook app and other common ones like tapatalk, etc

Gary86 said:
What is the app that resizes? Does the resizing make it look distorted? How's the facebook app and other common ones like tapatalk, etc
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Facebook and TapaTalk both work great. No issues whatsoever. I have not seen any rendering issues at all. There have been a few apps that won't download because they say they don't work on a tablet. The phone shows up as a tablet in the Android Market.

Gary86 said:
I wanted the Note to begin with but went with the S2. I'm in the process of selling my S2 now on CL. I have a few questions first:
1. How's the GPS?
2. ANy issues with AT&T(i assume I can just pop my AT&T SIM in and be good to go).
3. Do market apps work fine with the Notes big screen or do they look crappy because they weren't meant for a large screen?
4. How's every one generally liking the phone? How is it to make calls on (holding up to ones face not via BT).
Info is needed:
I'm on a unlimited 4G plan with AT&T (already using the S2 now) <-----not sure if this matters
Anything else would be excellent. Thanks again guys. Looking to get this then throw a ROM on for speed, remove bloat, tethering (should already be unlocked since not a carrier version) and cleanness.
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GPS is Fantastic! Better than the SGSII. ( I had SGSII for 3 weeks and also have a skyrocket) I routinely get a lock INSIDE my house!
You can pop your ATT SIM in but you must configure the APN for Data and MMS.
I have downloaded about 20 (not finished yet) apps to my GNote and they all look fine!
I have only made calls with bluetooth. I have not held to my ear yet except at home. It seems a bit large to do that. My skyrocket is crap with bluetooth but the GNote has been great with my car.
I do not like swipe or the samsung keyboard. Had to download the gingerbread keyboard. I have used several but keep coming back to that one.
Typing is 1000 time easier and better. For the life of me I could not type accurately type on the SGSII...
The screen resolution will blow you away! Watch that video that comes on it! WOW! There is no bloat as with ATT.
I do not know if ATT can detect the tether or not? When I log on to my ATT account it does not show the phone I am using. Does anyone know for sure?

Gary86 said:
I wanted the Note to begin with but went with the S2. I'm in the process of selling my S2 now on CL. I have a few questions first:
1. How's the GPS?
2. ANy issues with AT&T(i assume I can just pop my AT&T SIM in and be good to go).
3. Do market apps work fine with the Notes big screen or do they look crappy because they weren't meant for a large screen?
4. How's every one generally liking the phone? How is it to make calls on (holding up to ones face not via BT).
Info is needed:
I'm on a unlimited 4G plan with AT&T (already using the S2 now) <-----not sure if this matters
Anything else would be excellent. Thanks again guys. Looking to get this then throw a ROM on for speed, remove bloat, tethering (should already be unlocked since not a carrier version) and cleanness.
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1. The GPS is fantastic! It literally outperforms anything else I have ever used, including dedicated stand-alone GPS units.
2. There was initially an issue with AT&T where a particular range of Note IMEI's were being erroneously detected as a tablet device on the system. This issue seems to have been resolved. Even then, not every Note is/was affected anyway. The only other thing I can recommend (apart from configuring the correct APN's, which you can find throughout this forum) is to disable Fast Dormancy. Enter *#*#9900#*#* from your dialer and disable that feature from the menu that pops up. Basically it's a feature that AT&T doesn't use, and disabling it on your Note will vastly improve data speed and reliability.
3. So far I haven't had any issues with apps. Everything I've used looks fine so far.
4. Generally I'm loving the Note. There are a couple of minor (for me anyway) niggles. Mainly, it definitely is a big laggier than the SGS2, but not to the point where it's a deal breaker for me. The lag can mostly be attributed to software for now, but I expect these issues will mostly be solved when ICS is released for it. In the mean time, using SPB Shell 3D in tablet mode instead of TouchWiz has worked wonders. The side button on the s-pen is a little difficult to find just by feeling around for it, but that can be alleviated by etching a # pattern with a razor blade onto the button, giving it just a little more texture. As for actual call quality, honestly it's the clearest and best sounding call quality I have ever heard on a phone, period. Even better than most wired phones I've used!
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planoman said:
I do not like swipe or the samsung keyboard. Had to download the gingerbread keyboard. I have used several but keep coming back to that one.
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Totally agree! Been using the Gingerbread keyboard since my old Captivate, and even on tablets! By far my favourite keyboard!
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I do not know if ATT can detect the tether or not? When I log on to my ATT account it does not show the phone I am using. Does anyone know for sure?
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Well, considering that our unlocked devices are free of any AT&T bloatware or other intrusiveware that would otherwise report the specific use of our own equipment, I'm willing to bet that the only way AT&T would be able to detect that we're tethering is to perform deep packet inspection in order to determine the kind of traffic going through the device. I have tethered with both my old unlocked SGS2 and now my Note using only the stock Android tethering ability with no issues. However, I would recommend that you tether only when absolutely necessary and not abuse it, lest you risk being spotted by the Evil Eye of Sauron. Basically, as long as you don't draw unnecessary attention to yourself, you should be fine.

Need some help with Note 5 lack of features is it fixable??

Hi I am coming form a heavily used Note 2. As a business owner the Note 2 was my most important piece of equipment!!! Plus being always on the go it's flash video capabilities made being away from home easy. I never missed a basketball game or big fight. Watched them right on my phone. I remember being at a restaurant one Saturday night away from home and having the whole bar area crowd around my phone to watch a big fight. Pretty cool and useful. Unfortunately my Note 2 bit the dust and cant be fixed for reasonable money. Sprint store talked me into a Note 5 for my upgrade and contract renewal with a cheaper plan.
I was wondering if there are any ways to get similar apps or mods on my Note 5 Without rooting it. I am very dissapointed and feel like taking it back. Not impressed at all. Especially since I am out of pocket $200 and had to sign a 2 year plan. Maybe somebody can help or suggest some things. Or at least this can be a WARNING to potential buyers of the phones REAL LIFE CAPABILITIES AND LIMITS. Not some generic commercial hype or store sales pitch of since its a #5 it is better and does more things than the earlier numbered phones.
1. No live sports or new movie streams though web browsers
Lack of flash support ... I used flash websites to stream live sports or newer movies on my Note 2. I have downloaded the proper Adobe Flash version on the Note 5. I have also downloaded and enabled browsers like Firefox, Flash Fox, and Dolphin.
I have verified that flash is working. However, the sites for the live sports and movies DO NOT work. These sites all worked fine with the Note 2 stock browser.... Any other flash browser suggestions???? Anyway to download or install the Note 2 stock browser on Note 5?????
2. Mirroring. Watching EXACTLY what you see on your phone to a big TV.
All share Samsung data caster. I bought an expensive Samsung data caster that worked well to mirror my phone on to my living room TV.....Anyway to use this with my Note 5????? I don't see the option to on the phone.
Will a MHL cord to hdmi still mirror for a note 5??????
3. Using your internet and making a phone call at the same time.
Since I travel I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and computers....Tether... On my Note 2 with the PDA.net app it worked great. Was faster than any home internet I ever had. I could be on the phone and be browsing the web on my computer at the same time. It worked so well I cancelled my home ISP. It also came in handy even to just look things up on the phones internet while you were talking to clients.... I was VERY UPSET to find out that I can not do any of this on the Note 5. This is a major deal. I don't get this one at all. Any way to fix???????
4. Sound for music is not anything better.
5. Notifications and display are far less attention grabbing than on the Note 2. Easily miss texts or overlook them. The notification L.E.D.S are super WEAK.
6. My battery drains way faster! It does charge faster though. But I don't think this will be a good device to have where charging is not an option for a while.
7. You cant delete photos from the gallery... You have to open up the camera app to delete them... This seems so strange and pointless. Am I missing something here??????
Would appreciate any help or feedback on these issues. Thanks...

1. Not sure
2. Chromecast/Fire Stick, both work as I have personally tested this and both are available for under 50 dollars. (The screen mirroring option is in the quick toggles on your Note 5, mirrors everything on the screen not just compatible apps.)
3.Have not tested this
4. I think you need better headphones if you think it does not sound better.
5. Have not noticed this either
6. Disable unneeded apps, I am getting great battery life from mine.
7.QuickPic

whoamanwtf said:
1. Not sure
2. Chromecast/Fire Stick, both work as I have personally tested this and both are available for under 50 dollars. (The screen mirroring option is in the quick toggles on your Note 5, mirrors everything on the screen not just compatible apps.)
3.Have not tested this
4. I think you need better headphones if you think it does not sound better.
5. Have not noticed this either
6. Disable unneeded apps, I am getting great battery life from mine.
7.QuickPic
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Thanks for the info and response!!!!
2. I tried the the "quick connect" feature in the toggle down menu. IT WORKED with my DATA CASTER. I just don't like how it cuts the WI FI on too. i can live with that though. I now have mirroring without having to buy something else. Thanks!!!!
3. Yeah I have tested and confirmed with Sprint. Supposedly its a big deal and a lot of people are sending their phones back because of this. Literally just had a real life scenario where i needed to be on the phone and browse the web but couldn't..
4. I have $60 earbuds from Sienheiser. Maybe your ears work better or you have better head phones. I'm not willing to pay any more than $60 or buy another pair. They are less than a year old. But the sound is great. Just hard for my ears to pick up the difference. Both Note 2 and note 5 sound excellent though.
5. I also noticed that if you stay on a text message conversation screen and leave the screen on. . . . It will not ring or notify you if an additional text from that sender comes through. I don't like that at all. I want it to ring and vibrate for every text no matter what!
6. Can you clarify what you mean by disable????? Like delete???? Which ones did you get rid of????
7. I will look into QuickPic.....I'm guessing its an app in the play store?

Was your note 2 on lollipop? I have a feeling son of the things like notifications might be a lollipop thing not a note 5 thing
Go to your setting and adjust everything till it feels like your ideal phone.
If you're near wifi you can talk and be online at the same time l

GreeleyXda said:
Was your note 2 on lollipop? I have a feeling son of the things like notifications might be a lollipop thing not a note 5 thing
Go to your setting and adjust everything till it feels like your ideal phone.
If you're near wifi you can talk and be online at the same time l
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No i didnt have lollipop. I tried and played with the notification settings. Those are more limited too. Using wifi isnt an option for me often because i cancelled my home isp because tethering was faster and more dependable.

gn4life84 said:
No i didnt have lollipop. I tried and played with the notification settings. Those are more limited too. Using wifi isnt an option for me often because i cancelled my home isp because tethering was faster and more dependable.
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just tried first row sports using the dolphin browser and dolphin jetpack, after a little tinkering and changing to desktop mode, auto enabling flash play it works on streaming sports with flash. Give that a go and let me know

phil.W said:
just tried first row sports using the dolphin browser and dolphin jetpack, after a little tinkering and changing to desktop mode, auto enabling flash play it works on streaming sports with flash. Give that a go and let me know
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I have tried first row sports. With no luck. Freezes after a second at best.
Are you able to go full screen?
What link is working for you?
What is Dolphin jetpack?
Thanks for the help!

Just an extension of dolphin browser in the marketplace. Give it a go

gn4life84 said:
Hi I am coming form a heavily used Note 2. As a business owner the Note 2 was my most important piece of equipment!!! Plus being always on the go it's flash video capabilities made being away from home easy. I never missed a basketball game or big fight. Watched them right on my phone. I remember being at a restaurant one Saturday night away from home and having the whole bar area crowd around my phone to watch a big fight. Pretty cool and useful. Unfortunately my Note 2 bit the dust and cant be fixed for reasonable money. Sprint store talked me into a Note 5 for my upgrade and contract renewal with a cheaper plan.
I was wondering if there are any ways to get similar apps or mods on my Note 5 Without rooting it. I am very dissapointed and feel like taking it back. Not impressed at all. Especially since I am out of pocket $200 and had to sign a 2 year plan. Maybe somebody can help or suggest some things. Or at least this can be a WARNING to potential buyers of the phones REAL LIFE CAPABILITIES AND LIMITS. Not some generic commercial hype or store sales pitch of since its a #5 it is better and does more things than the earlier numbered phones.
1. No live sports or new movie streams though web browsers
Lack of flash support ... I used flash websites to stream live sports or newer movies on my Note 2. I have downloaded the proper Adobe Flash version on the Note 5. I have also downloaded and enabled browsers like Firefox, Flash Fox, and Dolphin.
I have verified that flash is working. However, the sites for the live sports and movies DO NOT work. These sites all worked fine with the Note 2 stock browser.... Any other flash browser suggestions???? Anyway to download or install the Note 2 stock browser on Note 5?????
2. Mirroring. Watching EXACTLY what you see on your phone to a big TV.
All share Samsung data caster. I bought an expensive Samsung data caster that worked well to mirror my phone on to my living room TV.....Anyway to use this with my Note 5????? I don't see the option to on the phone.
Will a MHL cord to hdmi still mirror for a note 5??????
3. Using your internet and making a phone call at the same time.
Since I travel I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and computers....Tether... On my Note 2 with the PDA.net app it worked great. Was faster than any home internet I ever had. I could be on the phone and be browsing the web on my computer at the same time. It worked so well I cancelled my home ISP. It also came in handy even to just look things up on the phones internet while you were talking to clients.... I was VERY UPSET to find out that I can not do any of this on the Note 5. This is a major deal. I don't get this one at all. Any way to fix???????
4. Sound for music is not anything better.
5. Notifications and display are far less attention grabbing than on the Note 2. Easily miss texts or overlook them. The notification L.E.D.S are super WEAK.
6. My battery drains way faster! It does charge faster though. But I don't think this will be a good device to have where charging is not an option for a while.
7. You cant delete photos from the gallery... You have to open up the camera app to delete them... This seems so strange and pointless. Am I missing something here??????
Would appreciate any help or feedback on these issues. Thanks...
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1) You had an Android device from 2012. The internet and Google have since moved on to HTML5. Flash is dead. Very few OSs support flash anymore. This isn't a phone issue. The unfortunate issue is your websites still utilize flash which is dangerous and a battery hog. A lot of security flaws and too much memory usage.
2)DL AllCast from the Google Play store, it hacks into any casting device. I have an AppleTV (back when I used to be pro Apple) and I use it constantly. All your casting needs whether it's a movie, phone screen, music, gallery etc all at your fingertips.
3)This is a Sprint issue not a phone issue. Sprint uses CMDA technology which requires dual cellular radios in order to surf and talk. Every other carrier supports simultaneous voice and data. I have Verizon (also CDMA, but I have dual radios in my phone) and can do it with my phone. When the phones hit a particular carrier, they decide to upgrade the radios to do surf/talk. If they decide not to which Sprint did not. You can't. Some claim this is a way to keep they're network bandwidth higher. Its 2015, regardless the phone should be able to do it.
4) The Note 5 came with a lot of new audio support modes. One feature I would recommend is using adaptic. It recognizes your ears ability to sense particular frequencies and changes the sound to your ears which makes a lot of difference.
5) You change change your notification settings in the individual apps your speaking off. The LED notification can be adjusted to your liking within settings. If this doesn't work. You can always DL an app that uses your phones flash to flash when your getting a notification (I know, I know.... Like an iPhone but it works great).
6). Lollipop has not been kind to device batteries. A lot of unnecessary system processes and apps. There are other posts within the Note 5 category that will guide you on debloating and disabling those packages and apps to gain better performance. Again not a phone issue but a software issue. Android M (which these phones will be first in-line to get) will change a lot of the problems they created in Lollipop. The Note 5 is not the only phone that suffers from this problem. A lot of them do.
7) Yes you can, but its hidden behind a sub menu. Long press on the photo you want to delete and it will pop open the delete function in the top menu bar (see image attached)
Hope this all helps. I suggest dumping Sprint and coming to Verizon. While it's not cheaper. It certainly is much better. Speeds, tethering, and service pretty much everywhere.
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Just an extension of dolphin browser in the marketplace. Give it a go
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ok installed.
Same thing... Will play for a second then freezes with Link 2... Also will not go full screen. Tried mobile and desktop modes.
Are you able to watch for more than a few secs and @ full screen without freezing????

niftyguy239 said:
1) You had an Android device from 2012. The internet and Google have since moved on to HTML5. Flash is dead. Very few OSs support flash anymore. This isn't a phone issue. The unfortunate issue is your websites still utilize flash which is dangerous and a battery hog. A lot of security flaws and too much memory usage.
2)DL AllCast from the Google Play store, it hacks into any casting device. I have an AppleTV (back when I used to be pro Apple) and I use it constantly. All your casting needs whether it's a movie, phone screen, music, gallery etc all at your fingertips.
3)This is a Sprint issue not a phone issue. Sprint uses CMDA technology which requires dual cellular radios in order to surf and talk. Every other carrier supports simultaneous voice and data. I have Verizon (also CDMA, but I have dual radios in my phone) and can do it with my phone. When the phones hit a particular carrier, they decide to upgrade the radios to do surf/talk. If they decide not to which Sprint did not. You can't. Some claim this is a way to keep they're network bandwidth higher. Its 2015, regardless the phone should be able to do it.
4) The Note 5 came with a lot of new audio support modes. One feature I would recommend is using adaptic. It recognizes your ears ability to sense particular frequencies and changes the sound to your ears which makes a lot of difference.
5) You change change your notification settings in the individual apps your speaking off. The LED notification can be adjusted to your liking within settings. If this doesn't work. You can always DL an app that uses your phones flash to flash when your getting a notification (I know, I know.... Like an iPhone but it works great).
6). Lollipop has not been kind to device batteries. A lot of unnecessary system processes and apps. There are other posts within the Note 5 category that will guide you on debloating and disabling those packages and apps to gain better performance. Again not a phone issue but a software issue. Android M (which these phones will be first in-line to get) will change a lot of the problems they created in Lollipop. The Note 5 is not the only phone that suffers from this problem. A lot of them do.
7) Yes you can, but its hidden behind a sub menu. Long press on the photo you want to delete and it will pop open the delete function in the top menu bar (see image attached)
Hope this all helps. I suggest dumping Sprint and coming to Verizon. While it's not cheaper. It certainly is much better. Speeds, tethering, and service pretty much everywhere.
Sent from my SM-N920V using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks for all the info I really appreciate that!!!!!!:good:
1. Is 3 years really that long.... When you spend that much money for something i would expect to have that option. You don't have to use a or go on a flash site if you don't want to....Flash is alive and well. Like I had mentioned earlier, people who stream Live sports and recent movie releases are all still Flash sites. I do not know of one html5 site that live streams sports.... Would love to find one if its out there though
2. I got the stock app to work with my Samsung All share Data caster. It is really choppy though. Thanks I will give that one a try and see if its any better
3. Wow that makes me even angrier with Sprint. i have tried to go to Verizon and t-mobile. They both have said stick with Sprint. My bills would be over twice as much with them because they don't do true unlimited Data like sprint does. Even when they do offer it, they bottleneck and slow your speed down once you reach a certain amount of data... My data usage makes Sprint my only choice and the fastest for me.
4. Will try thanks!!!!!
5. Note 5 has that from factory. I have it turned on. but in the day light the white flash is not to visible. Also, not visible when the phone is screen up. I have played with the settings. The notification LED just isn't that bright, big, flashes frequent enough to work as well as the older one. The Flash notification though is super helpful at night or in the dark.
6. If I keep the phone I will look into that. However, I find all the battery life claims with factory settings....auto screen brightness, keeping all apps closed, with just normal daily use to be terrible. I find it hard to believe that getting rid of the bloat-ware will take it form terrible to acceptable, but i'll take your word for it ... I hope so.
7. No attached image is showing for me????? I tried tapping and holding the pic and nothing is happening.......still only gives the option to share.

I think dolphin browser still works with flash. you will have to find the flash apk download though.

gn4life84 said:
ok installed.
Same thing... Will play for a second then freezes with Link 2... Also will not go full screen. Tried mobile and desktop modes.
Are you able to watch for more than a few secs and @ full screen without freezing????
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trying to get the soccer streams to work isn't working for myself, but I was always able to get UFC to stream and NFL/CFL when I would try. I'll let you know later on if it works for me, might just be the streams are crap too.

gn4life84 said:
Thanks for all the info I really appreciate that!!!!!!:good:
1. Is 3 years really that long.... When you spend that much money for something i would expect to have that option. You don't have to use a or go on a flash site if you don't want to....Flash is alive and well. Like I had mentioned earlier, people who stream Live sports and recent movie releases are all still Flash sites. I do not know of one html5 site that live streams sports.... Would love to find one if its out there though
2. I got the stock app to work with my Samsung All share Data caster. It is really choppy though. Thanks I will give that one a try and see if its any better
3. Wow that makes me even angrier with Sprint. i have tried to go to Verizon and t-mobile. They both have said stick with Sprint. My bills would be over twice as much with them because they don't do true unlimited Data like sprint does. Even when they do offer it, they bottleneck and slow your speed down once you reach a certain amount of data... My data usage makes Sprint my only choice and the fastest for me.
4. Will try thanks!!!!!
5. Note 5 has that from factory. I have it turned on. but in the day light the white flash is not to visible. Also, not visible when the phone is screen up. I have played with the settings. The notification LED just isn't that bright, big, flashes frequent enough to work as well as the older one. The Flash notification though is super helpful at night or in the dark.
6. If I keep the phone I will look into that. However, I find all the battery life claims with factory settings....auto screen brightness, keeping all apps closed, with just normal daily use to be terrible. I find it hard to believe that getting rid of the bloat-ware will take it form terrible to acceptable, but i'll take your word for it ... I hope so.
7. No attached image is showing for me????? I tried tapping and holding the pic and nothing is happening.......still only gives the option to share.
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Flash is dead:
http://www.businessinsider.com/google-chrome-wont-autoplay-flash-ads-2015-8
In device terms with technology coming out. Yes 3 years is old enough.
With phone service you get what you pay for. I've never had a dropped call, network failure, or internet outtage. And from previous experiences living in the sticks of Kentucky. I still got 4G Verizon. Now I'm in Florida and never lower then 3 bars of coverage. I pay $234 a month for two phones and a tablet. I pay for 10gb and I get additional 5gb of data added to my plan per month for free as I am a loyal Verizon Customer. So it works out great.
Idk why it didn't post so my apologies.
Here are photos of the deleting procedure and my battery life on my phone after stream lining it. I average 18-22 hrs on a single charge. Depending on usage.
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I think dolphin browser still works with flash. you will have to find the flash apk download though.
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Stated that i have the correct flash apk and Dolphin+ tried 4 other "flash friendly browsers" too. Some flash works but not all. none of the live sports stuff works....

phil.W said:
trying to get the soccer streams to work isn't working for myself, but I was always able to get UFC to stream and NFL/CFL when I would try. I'll let you know later on if it works for me, might just be the streams are crap too.
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????

gn4life84 said:
COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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I hadn't tried as of yet, but it raises the question. It worked for my note 2 and 3 when I had them

gn4life84 said:
COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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totally dependant on the stream, just tried a rugby stream and it was perfectly fine on first row, using dolphin with flash

phil.W said:
totally dependant on the stream, just tried a rugby stream and it was perfectly fine on first row, using dolphin with flash
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Still cant get flash, dolphin, and front row to work....
Some more updates
- Still cant get flash for front row to work with Dolphin.
More updates:
-LED notifications are super weak and almost not visible on bright sunny days
- Have missed several text because if I leave a text conversation open if a text from that sender comes through It wont notify you.
-Also all free messaging apps wont work while you are on the phone. Like KIK and others. You can not receive any of those messages until you get off the phone . Makes me wonder if Email is like this too???? How counter productive and backwards...
They literally have taken out more features and all multi tasking... So what do I care if the hardware is better????? IT DOES WAY LESS!!!!!

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I use hangouts dialer and a google voice line to place calls and keep my data line open....
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-Also all free messaging apps wont work while you are on the phone. Like KIK and others. You can not receive any of those messages until you get off the phone . Makes me wonder if Email is like this too???? How counter productive and backwards...
They literally have taken out more features and all multi tasking... So what do I care if the hardware is better????? IT DOES WAY LESS!!!!!
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Yeah that part is true and no mapping and no nothing about data when your on a call. But you can hear a cricket fart at 200 paces! But again that is a sprint thing. Sprint blames it onSamsung but Samsung builds to sprints specs.

Some notes after using MIX on AT&T for several days

I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.

Wow... Just got my phone yesterday and was so annoyed with not being able to download most things, especially the Google Play Services. Thank you so much for this. Everything works now.
I thought it may have to do with my SIM card saying its not activated, even though I could still call, text, and had internet. Do you have the same message?
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OP should be stickied because the download accelerator is turned on by default.

TGUY25 said:
I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.
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Thanks for your thoughts.
I am awaiting mine to be delivered within next few days and I am wondering if you have noticed any issues with push notifications? I use Nine email and proper pusch notifications are key factors for daily use of the device.

MarFor66 said:
Thanks for your thoughts.
I am awaiting mine to be delivered within next few days and I am wondering if you have noticed any issues with push notifications? I use Nine email and proper pusch notifications are key factors for daily use of the device.
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I'm getting some push notification delays with Hangouts, Tapatalk, and Gmail.

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I'm getting some push notification delays with Hangouts, Tapatalk, and Gmail.
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Thanks!
Have you tried to change battery performance plan or adjust all the settings which are related to app background data or secure the app to be alive when the screen is off?
I think with Android 6.0 and its doze stuff this will require some more efforts to make the settings workable for all those apps which require some push services when the screen is off.

@OP
Where did you find the Mi App Store? I don't see it in mine, I wonder if it was taken out by the shop that sold me the phone. Play Store says not available in my country when I did a search for it.

I couldn't find that on my phone either so any help would be greatly appreciated!

imapfsr said:
I couldn't find that on my phone either so any help would be greatly appreciated!
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As soon as I receive mine and start playing with settings I will share whatever support will be valuable.

mine came right out of the box and it had the "app store" with the MI logo on it. it was not a custom rom - the off the shelf china rom and I selected English as the language. I still have a few funky things going on. Android Pay will work then sometimes I'll get an "Android Pay not available" error and have to uninstall/reinstall the app - I think this has something to do with permissions.
I haven't found anything that references doze mode and did a setting search and found nothing. the phone us running android 6

The forbes review. Mentioned how miui aggressively kills background apps unless you disable that.

ChodTheWacko said:
The forbes review. Mentioned how miui aggressively kills background apps unless you disable that.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69641266&postcount=42

I have yet to find LTE, but HSPA+ is working well enough. (I'm in NH and MA). I'm on AT&T as well.
I am still getting used to how small this phone feels compared to my Huawei Mediapad X2, but the Mi Mix is so much faster! and background apps dont secretly close all the time like on the Huawei so that's a huge plus.
Slippery...... Yeah, why is this so slippery? I hate using cases with my phones, but I just don't think its a good idea on this one. Really only the thin sides need help, I thought about applying some sort of slim tape strips or skateboard griptape just on the very edge of the phone. I think this would help quite a bit...

omniphil said:
I have yet to find LTE, but HSPA+ is working well enough. (I'm in NH and MA). I'm on AT&T as well.
I am still getting used to how small this phone feels compared to my Huawei Mediapad X2, but the Mi Mix is so much faster! and background apps dont secretly close all the time like on the Huawei so that's a huge plus.
Slippery...... Yeah, why is this so slippery? I hate using cases with my phones, but I just don't think its a good idea on this one. Really only the thin sides need help, I thought about applying some sort of slim tape strips or skateboard griptape just on the very edge of the phone. I think this would help quite a bit...
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get one of those carbon fiber (look) adhesive back skins available for the Tab s 8.4 (just cut it down to size-helps with the grip without adding thickness) 4.99 last I checked on Ebay (takes time though as it comes from China) have used it on 2 devices so far (just cut and adapt)
wondering about your LTE (lack thereof) - as bands 2, 4 and 5 are available on this device. I know here in Michigan, bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices (do not have the Mix) depending upon the area I am in. 5 is not here but is in N Michigan-couple of users on xda said 5 was tapped into in the Dallas area-not sure of yours
check these
https://opensignal.com/
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1841948-LTE-bands-in-Northern-Michigan
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1881635-AT-amp-T-s-Band-30-WCS-LTE-Deployment

mac231us said:
get one of those carbon fiber (look) adhesive back skins available for the Tab s 8.4 (just cut it down to size-helps with the grip without adding thickness) 4.99 last I checked on Ebay (takes time though as it comes from China) have used it on 2 devices so far (just cut and adapt)
wondering about your LTE (lack thereof) - as bands 2, 4 and 5 are available on this device. I know here in Michigan, bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices (do not have the Mix) depending upon the area I am in. 5 is not here but is in N Michigan-couple of users on xda said 5 was tapped into in the Dallas area-not sure of yours
check these
https://opensignal.com/
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1841948-LTE-bands-in-Northern-Michigan
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1881635-AT-amp-T-s-Band-30-WCS-LTE-Deployment
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I got some clear wide 3M packing tape, I'm going to put one piece over the back and up the 2 sides and see how that goes. I figure that will also keep the camera lens up off the desk a little as well. But I love your carbon fiber adhesive idea! I will have to look for that... And I actually have a Tab S 8.4 still that I used as my phone for a while...
When you say "bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices" Do you mean you have to do something at the carrier level to activate LTE? I haven't had an LTE phone on AT&T in a long time, too many overseas phones and have been using HSPA+ exclusively. I did go into the Sim card settings and select "Prefer LTE" but it never seems to stick? It just flashes away quickly no matter what I choose i there...

omniphil said:
I got some clear wide 3M packing tape, I'm going to put one piece over the back and up the 2 sides and see how that goes. I figure that will also keep the camera lens up off the desk a little as well. But I love your carbon fiber adhesive idea! I will have to look for that...
When you say "bands 2 and maybe 4 get activated on my devices" Do you mean you have to do something at the carrier level to activate LTE? I haven't had an LTE phone on AT&T in a long time, too many overseas phones and have been using HSPA+ exclusively. I did go into the Sim card settings and select "Prefer LTE" but it never seems to stick? It just flashes away quickly no matter what I choose i there...
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Sorry.. I meant to say they are seen on my devices or picked up (not activated)
check your local coverage using links I gave (2 of the 3)..although I could not find anything that would tell one which bands are in any given area - so some of the coverage shown could very well be coverage through bands not in the Mix like 17 on ATT or 12 on Tmobile or even 29 and 30 on ATT (less common I think).
this is the 'carbon fiber' (appearance) sticker
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Carbo...561385?hash=item33a448b8a9:g:BDYAAOSw7NNUL~d7

mac231us said:
Sorry.. I meant to say they are seen on my devices or picked up (not activated)
check your local coverage using links I gave (2 of the 3)..although I could not find anything that would tell one which bands are in any given area - so some of the coverage shown could very well be coverage through bands not in the Mix like 17 on ATT or 12 on Tmobile or even 29 and 30 on ATT (less common I think).
this is the 'carbon fiber' (appearance) sticker
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Carbo...561385?hash=item33a448b8a9:g:BDYAAOSw7NNUL~d7
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Perfect, thanks! I'll be down in Boston later today, I'll see what I can pickup for signal.

TGUY25 said:
I thought I'd share a few findings from my use of the MIX over the last few days to save others some frustration setting up and using this great phone. So far, I am really enjoying the phone!
It's runs on AT&T just fine - in some places, I'm getting LTE (4G) based on available bands and H+ or 3G in most others; I don't watch a lot of video on the phone so speed really hasn't been an issue.
Getting Google apps installed was very frustrating due to the download constantly crashing. Took me awhile to figure out the problem and, once I did, it installed easily. (see posts elsewhere on how to download and install from the MI store).
The biggest things I've learned is that you have to shut off the default download accelerator (I think it has trouble hitting servers in China from outside China) and allow downloads from cell connections (if you want that) in the MI store as those setting carry over into the Play store.
Open the MI "App Store" then under Account (you'll need to establish a MI account - easy to do), Downloads, on the top left click on the little bird and shut off the Xunlei accelerator - that fixed all my download problems. Then on the same downloads page, click on the 3 dots on the top right and chose Settings. Under the settings, you can change "download using mobile data is" to whatever setting you want; I set it as unlimited. Those settings carry over to the google play store (no matter what you chose on play) which is why I was having problems downloading apps over cellular even when I said it was ok.
I checked the phone for the adups spyware reported installed on phones from China using debloater and didn't find anything.
I installed Nova launcher (instead of the default launcher) with the pixel icon pack and am now very happy with the phone.
it's big (and slippery so I'm using the case that came with the unit) and a pretty cool phone. No lag, speed issues or anything else to report so far.
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Can you post a picture of NOVA launcher on your phone?

When you turn on Nova Launcher Persistent Search Bar mine automatically goes to Baidu for search instead of Google, I haven't been able to figure out that one yet..

omniphil said:
When you turn on Nova Launcher Persistent Search Bar mine automatically goes to Baidu for search instead of Google, I haven't been able to figure out that one yet..
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Same here,I stopped using it & went with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.natewren.csbw&hl=en

KOLIOSIS said:
Same here,I stopped using it & went with this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.natewren.csbw&hl=en
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That app looked great right up until i used it, the floating bar moves when you try to enter text. Very odd

Waze Beta Feedback/Discussion

Not an official part of the beta...but I've been installing and using the betas via apkmirror. I use the Sony XAV-AX100 for android auto on it's latest firmware (1.02.06 as of this writing). Phone is a Nexus 6P running 7.1.2. Started with the v4.24.0.113 beta....it worked...albeit with frequent crashes/restarts. It seemed VERY beta. Sometimes it didn't audibly report hazards/police, etc. The "OK Google" style voice recognition worked fine in the app....e.g if I had Waze selected for Nav, a "Navigate to DESTINATION" responded with "OK, handing that to Waze..." and then the destination came up fine in Waze.
I tried this on a few long trips, but ultimately the frequent crashes (sometimes at critical navigation points) were too much, so I largely reverted back to Google Maps.
I am now on v4.26.0.902. It is overall MUCH more stable than the 113 beta, however, all of the OK Google voice recognition defaults to Google Maps...e.g. "Navigate to DESTINATION" switches you to Google Maps by default, even if you are in Waze when you do it...even when tapping the microphone in the waze search box. I really hope that isn't going to be the case in the release version of this when it comes out. It's kind of a deal breaker....you really need that ability to choose a new navigation destination on the fly with voice commands as you can do in GM.
Overall Feedback for both versions so far:
1. I miss the speed/speed limit overlay terribly. I know they are dealing with a screen real estate issue here...but I'd really like to see this added back in.
2. No ability to send ETA in the AA UX. Not really a deal breaker for me....I found this functionality spotty at best in the release versions of Waze.
3. The Map detail could be better. I know the head unit has lower resolution than my phone, but Google Maps looks much better on it.
4. I wish the dark theme/dark map would work on AA. If I switch the lights on, it goes to dark, but I'd like the ability to have this on all the time. The dark map seems to look better on the head unit's screen.
I'd be interested to hear the experiences of others so far.....

You know, I just don't understand the lack of talk in this forum about Waze Beta. I keep coming here and looking and this is really the only thing about it.
1. Speed limit overlay is coming back, they talked about it when the new version came out last week.
2. Agreed. It should prompt you via voice after you hit a Send ETA button on who you want to send it to.
3. Agreed. I am a Geographer/GIS Specialist by trade, so I know maps, this small of font on the screen when driving is unacceptable. The detail is also very poor.
4. You DO know you can set your Android Auto to always be Night Mode right? I prefer it that way.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68249351&postcount=7
Gives you the dark map all the time. Dark Google Play Music is better too.

RED ZMAN said:
4. You DO know you can set your Android Auto to always be Night Mode right? I prefer it that way.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68249351&postcount=7
Gives you the dark map all the time. Dark Google Play Music is better too.
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I did not know that! Thanks for the tip!
I've got 905 installed now but the "Navigate to DESTINATION" via voice switching you to Google Maps by default issue persists, unfortunately. 113 didn't do that. I really hope they restore that so that it uses your last used navigation app, similar to how music works.

skylaneffz said:
I did not know that! Thanks for the tip!
I've got 905 installed now but the "Navigate to DESTINATION" via voice switching you to Google Maps by default issue persists, unfortunately. 113 didn't do that. I really hope they restore that so that it uses your last used navigation app, similar to how music works.
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905? Is that a new version that is AA capable?
We should use this thread, or maybe start a new one to notify XDA folks that do stumble in here when there's a new AA compatible beta. I've had to find out on *shudder* Reddit.

Installed 4.27.0.0 Beta on Friday. http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/waze/waze-gps-maps-traffic-alerts-live-navigation/waze-gps-maps-traffic-alerts-live-navigation-4-27-0-0-release/
I can confirm this version works with AA. Seems very stable, they fixed the "Navigate to DESTINATION" issue as well. Still no Speedometer. It may be because I've switched to always on night mode, but the map seems to look a little better than it did. I think they still need work with the fonts, etc. but this looks promising.

How does waze download map? I use it in car without Internet.
Last time i used it, i send Internet from phone to find the destination. Then i stoped Internet and working fine.
Last time i was in a trip, i started waze again, without Internet and without settings an adress. It was working but after a few minutes it didn't have map anyone. It just showing black for map..
Probably if i started Internet again it would show map. The program was working. It did work navigation but without map..
So i think when you search an andress, it download the map to go there. So even without Internet it will work. But if you dont follow the navigation and go to some other place, it wont have the map from the other place..
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sosimple said:
How does waze download map? I use it in car without Internet.
Last time i used it, i send Internet from phone to find the destination. Then i stoped Internet and working fine.
Last time i was in a trip, i started waze again, without Internet and without settings an adress. It was working but after a few minutes it didn't have map anyone. It just showing black for map..
Probably if i started Internet again it would show map. The program was working. It did work navigation but without map..
So i think when you search an andress, it download the map to go there. So even without Internet it will work. But if you dont follow the navigation and go to some other place, it wont have the map from the other place..
Sent from my SM-G9350 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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The purpose of this thread is for discussion of the Waze Beta on Android Auto. Perhaps you should ask your question in the general Waze forum: https://www.waze.com/forum/ With a general google search, I found this relevent thread here: https://www.waze.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=657&t=67879#p682703

Installed 4.27.0.1 beta. Working fine with AA. I don't see any feature updates...seems to be a bug fix release.

skylaneffz said:
Installed 4.27.0.1 beta. Working fine with AA. I don't see any feature updates...seems to be a bug fix release.
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Hey there. I am having trouble with android auto. I have the same head unit as you as well as the same phone. I have tried many times to get android auto running with my phone on the head unit and I always get a message about "android auto will resume when you are parked". The head unit does not give this message when connected to a samsung phone or an i-Phone (apple car play). This error only pops up with my device, Nexus 6P so I am assuming it was wired correctly by the installer. Can you PLEASE let me know what ROM you are on (including the build date) and possibly what cord you are using to connect to the provided USB extension cable? I have yet to get this head unit to work with my Nexus 6P and I have tried a different ROMs, settings, reboots etc. Please help.

thesticks00 said:
Hey there. I am having trouble with android auto. I have the same head unit as you as well as the same phone. I have tried many times to get android auto running with my phone on the head unit and I always get a message about "android auto will resume when you are parked". The head unit does not give this message when connected to a samsung phone or an i-Phone (apple car play). This error only pops up with my device, Nexus 6P so I am assuming it was wired correctly by the installer. Can you PLEASE let me know what ROM you are on (including the build date) and possibly what cord you are using to connect to the provided USB extension cable? I have yet to get this head unit to work with my Nexus 6P and I have tried a different ROMs, settings, reboots etc. Please help.
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I'm on the stock ROM....7.1.2 Build No: N2G470. The cord is just a generic USB-A to USB-C cord I bought at Fry's Electronics. FYI...I installed the head unit myself, and I think I may have had that issue initially. What I did to resolve it was ground the parking brake wire. This allows you to watch video on the head unit as well, if you have a USB stick with media on it (although I never do that).
Hope that helps....

skylaneffz said:
I'm on the stock ROM....7.1.2 Build No: N2G470. The cord is just a generic USB-A to USB-C cord I bought at Fry's Electronics. FYI...I installed the head unit myself, and I think I may have had that issue initially. What I did to resolve it was ground the parking brake wire. This allows you to watch video on the head unit as well, if you have a USB stick with media on it (although I never do that).
Hope that helps....
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Thanks skylaneffz. I am going to get the parking break wire grounded tomorrow. Debating if I want to just return to stock now and if everything works tomorrow, I can try a custom rom again later. Kinda annoying that I can get my girlfriends I-phone to work with the head unit and not my own. Currently running pure nexus 6/12 with no luck. Thanks again for your advice. Getting waze to work will be the next step once android auto is up and running.

thesticks00 said:
Debating if I want to just return to stock now and if everything works tomorrow, I can try a custom rom again later.
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I'd see if grounding the brake wire works first if I were you. Seems like a lot of trouble to go through. I'm on the stock ROM because my "Flashaholic" days are over

skylaneffz said:
I'd see if grounding the brake wire works first if I were you. Seems like a lot of trouble to go through. I'm on the stock ROM because my "Flashaholic" days are over
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Thanks,
I may revert to stock regardless. I only really use a custom rom because they tended to be considerably better than stock (at least initially with battery life etc). I have not been on a stock rom in so long I have no idea how they compare to customs now. Since i have flashed so many times now trying to get this to work, and I had no guarantee any flash would prove fruitful, my phone is not even completely set up. LOL. So may as well give stock a spin. Regardless, thank you so very much. I was about to give up hope getting android auto to work with my phone and head unit. Especially since the good people of Sony have told me twice the head unit does NOTwork with 6P (granted they also told me twice it did). Gotta love their customer service.

Apparently the release version is out now:
https://www.blog.google/products/android/waze-android-auto-here/
The release version seems to be the same as the last beta: 4.27.0.1

Android Auto now working with regular Waze release!

Yeah, but missing lane assist and no speeding limits is really annoying.
And the calculated arrival time is on Google maps much better than Waze. Only thing what is very cool are the speed traps in waze.

Waze has got wrong routing to me and is not a good navigation system. And i don´t like the social blabla with points and that stuff...
Maps and TomTom are much better.

FormelLMS said:
Yeah, but missing lane assist and no speeding limits is really annoying.
And the calculated arrival time is on Google maps much better than Waze. Only thing what is very cool are the speed traps in waze.
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I think there's a lot more stuff in ways that's a cool than that. Being able to go in and edit the map and add things or remove things and adjust them is fantastic. I do a fair amount of editing when I have time. Also the other reporting has turned out to be extremely important for me and has kept me from running into rather large roadkill and other trash items on the road from people towing trucks down to Mexico here in New Mexico.
[email protected] said:
Waze has got wrong routing to me and is not a good navigation system. And i don´t like the social blabla with points and that stuff...
Maps and TomTom are much better.
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You may want to check your ways settings and make sure that they are set correctly for you. You can also do editing in your area to adjust the way that routing happens and it'll work better.

Android Auto for phone screens is final stopped?

Even the Android Auto for phone screens was retired for Android 12, you can still use it on old Androids 11, 10. A month ago a message appear "Android Auto for phone screens will stop working soon", but still can use it.
Today I tried to start the app and instead appear the Android Auto settings page and no more Android Auto for phone screens. I have Miui 12.5.7 with Android 11 and Android Auto 7.6.621734-release.
Its only me or they kill out AAFPS for good?

For me the same...

Android Auto is now on the scrap heap; in short it will no longer work as a stand-alone.
Google have thrown a kill-switch (2 days ago now) for discrete mode so that now, it can only work in screen-mirroring mode which necessitates a compatible infotainment system/head unit (check the message it opens with).
The official alternative on offer is Driving Mode in the Google Assistant. It's of dubious quality, especially for devices older than Android 10, where it really is just a shortcut to Google Maps.
Alternative apps/launchers are available but they are either expensive or just plain rubbish (and often both).

I'm sorry to hear this is confirmed. So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit.
Driving Mode in the Google Assistant is a just simple no-go. Here in Romania we use a lot Waze for police report, traffic jams and bad roads. Also since romanian language is not supported , you can spell some small commands in english, but to convince it to drive you at address or even to call your mom is very difficult.
So now I'm without alternative .

triovi said:
...So no more Android Auto, I don't have a compatible infotainment system/head unit...
...So now I'm without alternative .
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Indeed - and you are not alone as many reviews on Google Play confirm.
One other option is to roll-back to an older version. If you don't have a backup then APKMirror might be for you:-
Android Auto on APKMirror
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...

xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
If you do try this, then be sure and disable auto-update for it in Google Play...
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I'll give it a try: my Renault Megane is half destroyed and now I have to use (for long time) a Seat Leon without AA enabled!
I've started AA on my old (but still running fine) Motorola Moto G5 and is not working anymore... Problem is that the phone is running Android 8.1 so Drive Assistant is not available (it needs at least Android 9!)

xanda-escuyer said:
FWIW we have an older, 7/Nougat device running ver 7.4.62094-release and it seems to work still.
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GCalzo said:
I'll give it a try
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on my pc I had a few backups, I have removed the current build and installed Android Auto_7.2.620123-release and it worked flawlessly!
I'll look for a more recent build on APKmirror!
Addendum: tried with v7.6 but got the advice. For my Android v8.1 the last working is v7.2!

Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.

I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...

Google are literally murderers , besides all the people they have stranded or driven of the road or over ravines with their crappy maps app
they have probably killed thousands in traffic accidents with their garbage software
,this new "driving mode" is no exception , I mean AA was an absolute out of control garbage fire just like GA is but this "driving mode" is over the top
even for the complete morons over at Google.
I can not tell you how many accidents I have almost got into since they removed trusted voice unlock and now that this POS driving mode has replaced AA it has gotten MUCH worse, they should be sued for this dangerous crap they have forced on us, I will NOT be buying another pixel EVER.
fist of all this POS continually turns the screen off and locks the device forcing me to unlock the phone continuously while driving,
they are so S all stupid they didn't even bother to make it rotate to landscape mode and my car mount is for landscape only. (only people who hold their guns sideways would want to use their phones in portrait mode as they always seem to do when taking word star videos)
the "driving mode" is pure trash ,there are no audio controls, you can't use it if you just want to listen to music and for phone calls because it's tied to maps and you have be using navigation to use it.
there is NOTHING here of any value I mean who TF wants to read the New York Slimes, ever and especially WHILE DRIVING, yeah great replacement to music apps and music controls.
There is no way in hell I would ever give these evil bastards my biometric data so here I am trying to unlock my phone with a pattern every 30 seconds while it is mounted landscape and the unlock pattern is in portrait mode, I have to tilt my head or try and figure out my lock pattern adjusted for it being tilted 90 degree off while I'm driving every 30 seconds because the screen keeps turning off and locking the device even though I have "smartlock" (DUMBlock) enabled and my cars bluetooth added as a "trusted device" as well as a smart band, but it just seems to ignore the fact both are connected.
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs, every single last one of them should have been kicked the F out on their arses a long time ago. , maybe we need to get Elon over there.

SOFO888 said:
I also tried to modify the apk.
I was not successful. Therefore I gave up...
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please don't give up and keep trying other wise I am switching back to IOS, I just can't deal with this S
maybe I can throw away my pixel 3a XL and just go back to my old 6p on Nougat
this is not acceptable, what other options are there, I have an echo auto I never set up maybe that will be better.

peetig said:
Thank you for this thread!
This has been nagging me more than usual as AA for Phone Screens was something I've used daily. (strong feedback sent to google, not that it will do any good)
Tried with app version 7.3.620544 on Android 11 and I can launch it a few times, all good and functional. But after a few hours an internal update seems to check the installed and Play store versions, preventing me from starting the application without updating. So reinstall APK again. (a hassle)
Tried creating a re-signed version with Android Studio to block auto-updates, but the re-signed APK install itself is blocked due to signature mismatch - even after uninstalling for user 0. I fear this might be only possible with rooting the phone...
I would very much appreciate any other non-root option to get this functioning again. Curse you google for ruining google.
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F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.

My idea is to install an alternative launcher as soon as you are connected to your car's Bluetooth system. I mean a launcher made for driving with big icons and so on.
With tasker you could additionally make a task to increase the display timeout to infinite when connected to your car's Bluetooth system.

gdroid666 said:
F it, I am just going to throw away my pixel and go back to IOS
I am F ing done , removal of trusted voice unlock was bad enough but this is the last straw.
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Goodbye.

gdroid666 said:
how in the actual F do any of these imbecilic A holes still have jobs,
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Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
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maybe we need to get Elon over there.
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Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....

xanda-escuyer said:
Because they have done exactly what The Chocolate Factory wants.
Android Auto was quite good in the past but then they realised a serious problem: It hurts sales.
So the aim then became to make everybody sick of it by degrees, breaking it a piece at a time until expectations reduce to the point the user base ebbs away.
So what's in it for them? Google are betting that Android's 'popularity' will oblige most of us to seek an alternative - but only if works with their device; that means buying a new infotainment system - one that is either Android Auto or stand-alone Android.
Google and OEMs (JVC, Kenwood, Pioneer etc) now have another major market cornered and if they have done their math right, all of us switching over will mean a windfall of revenue in new hardware sales and licence fees.
As for looking for a launcher, well good luck with that. We've tried several but not one has the ability to switch between driving and phone mode.
These two probably represent the best of what's left but again, neither is properly polished even for the paid versions:-
DashDroid on Google Play
AutoMate on Google Play
Failing that, get a TomTom!
Oh please no - anything but that - no no no no....
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Thing is most cars don't have it still
the stand alone android units just suck because they don't have any connection method unless they use your phone as a hotspot , unless they have some with sim cards, but now sim cards are being phased out too, and I would not spend more money a month just to keep my head unit connected to GSM
I would buy a head unit if they made one that had wireless android auto baked in but there are none, at least not what I want, I want one for my BMW E46 that looks pretty close to stock, Android head units like that are a dime a dozen for this thing but none of them have AA or wireless AA
,what they should really make is a tablet that has wireless AA built in
or a fire tablet that acts as an echo show auto but with a screen
that you can mount to your dash ,sucks that all the hardware has been there to this for like a decade but because of theese big cancer monopolies we can't use the hardware to its full potential
I have yet to try reloaded yet but I have feeling it will not be good
but here is no reason this can't run on low end tablet like a fire tablet
maybe I will finally get around to trying out my echo auto that I picked up for $20 that has been sitting here not even unboxed for over a year now
thing is that my grom unit is a PITA to pair to my phone , you need to pull 3 different fuses to erase it and repair a new device and then once you do the feature that send the ID4 tags to the display on the radio might not work then you have to pair it all over agian , I am wondering if echo auto will send the track data to the grom and if it will display on the stock radio display like it does with the phone , then maybe I will just ditch GA altogether
its a horrible trash fire anyways , if Amazon made a fire phone again with hands free Alexa baked in I would buy it in hearbeat, anything to get rid of GA

mike.s said:
Goodbye.
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Yeah ok ,see ya, I was thinking about buying a 7 pro but not now
F Google , I will NEVER buy another phone from them until they bring back trusted voice unlock and make their phones useable while driving
android is a nothing but a trash fire now, mainly because GA just sucks now
doesn't work while driving , doesn't work with hands free at all not even while using buds, unacceptable trash OS and very dangerous to use while driving people will die in accidents because of Googles moronic decisions and negligence, again F Google I'm out.

gdroid666 said:
Yeah ok ,see ya,..
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Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...

xanda-escuyer said:
Many of us share your frustration and of course, you are at liberty to try alternatives if you think they are better.
Yet this is primarily a help thread and some would say your 'questions' had been answered before you even posted. So please bear in mind that 'going-off on one' does dilute the thread; making it harder for others to find the help they need as it becomes buried in the noise.
Good luck in your quest...
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Yes everything Google does frustrates me, these people are absolutely obtuse
ok so do you have any suggestions for alternatives?
maybe there is a 3rd party app?
I have a Grom bluetooth unit and they have an app called dashlinq but I have not tried it yet
not sure how it will work with Google assistant
so are there any other 3rd party apps that do essentially the same thing as AA?
not sure if this dashlinq app uses GA or not or if it has it's own voice recognition.
I am surprised that there is not a way to keep using AA though as there is with Google play music ,which you can stil use if you have the right legacy version installed despite its replacement with YT music.
I am still confident there is a way, and also a bit confused
on weather it is going to work on my phone still since I have not updated past Android 11 , guess I will try installing some older .apk's and see if it is only not working anymore on Android 12.

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I'm out.
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You keep saying that.