hey!
I'm considering getting a Galaxy S I9000 device, although I have a couple of concerns and I was hoping you guys might help me figure them out.
the thing I'm worried about the most is how will the galaxy S be in 1 or 2 years.
I'm talking mostly app wise, because from what I've read, the new high end mobiles will use dual core processors, which means special apps that run only on them, thus the galaxy won't be able to run.
I'm also worried about the support from samsung and google - is it possible that they will state they aren't supporting the galaxy anymore? samsung will say they won't upgrade the touchwiz like HTC said about the HTC Sense, and google will say the new android versions can't be installed on the galaxy s? (sorry if this is a dumb and silly question, but I really don't know what's gonna happen )
now I know there is no guarantee in this things, but I want to 'minimize the damage'....
my main dilemma is whether I should buy the galaxy now, or wait a couple of months for the S2/Atrix/Sensation devices to become cheaper (they cost too much for me...), and then have a mobile with a dual core processor which will probably serve me longer than the Galaxy S will?
thing is, if I'll wait for the mobiles mentioned above to become cheaper I might get caught in an infinite loop, because in one year from now I might be saying the same thing about those devices......
what do you guys think? am I being brainwashed by all these commercials about the dual core processors and there's nothing to worry about, or is it really that much of a deal and I should wait a while for the prices to go down, and dual core processors is really a must in modern smartphones?
thanks!
You can keep telling yourself "should I wait to get something better" for an enternity, there will always be something better coming out.
Most things anyone normal will use their phone for does not need dual core, atm for the common user its only for a little smoother websurfing. The power of new mobiles wount be utalized to its fullest. Mostly in games but who buys a phone to mainly play games on?
If you dont need a phone now then sure wait, but if you are itching to get something new I would have bought it now. The months spent waiting wount be worth it compared to the months you could have fun with this awsom phone
Like above.
If you're waiting because the newer ones are too expensive: get the SGS. If money is not an issue i would say wait for the SGS2 otherwise you'll really get into a loop.
The SGS has great memory (512mb), speedy processor (1GHz) with great 3D capabilities and lots of storage built in for apps which will serve you well for the next couple of years. It is still a top of the line device after one year.
Also has to be said: LIKELY the gingerbread will be the last official android release and no more support. But given the huge fan crowd, there will always be workaround for newer versions, thanks to many developers who are reading and actively contributing to this forum
hey
thanks for the replies.
like you guys said, if I'll wait now I might find myself in the same dilemma regarding other devices.
however, there's one main difference - it's a question of whether the dual core processors are worth waiting for or not... I assume that in one year from now all new device will be released with those processors , so the 'gap' between what I will want by then (SG2 for instance) and whats about to come out a year from now won't be that big like now between the galaxy s and the s 2.
I'll cut it down to a very simple question -
2 years from now, will we still see new apps coming out for the galaxy S device?
In two years time there will be another big processor development i.e. the difference between single and dual core wont be the determining factor of whether your phone can or cant use new apps.
I consider myself really lucky to have purchased a SGS soon after it was released, before all the hype and before a huge dev community was formed. A big Dev community is what gives a phone longevity, not manufacturing support that wanes as soon as their latest and greatest phone is released.
My advice would be to go with a phone that has a big dev community = SGS, Nexus phones and most HTC devices.
I am waiting for the 8 core SGS mark 12 .
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So I'm adding android to my list of mobile OS's up from blackberry windows phone 7 and iOS. Every time I throw the word android up I start to get scared, I managed to get a defective first phone (droid charge) with another one on its way just want to know what I should do to see the benefit of owning an android phone vs. my iPhone 4.
The power button will lead you to all you need to see that's better than any other OS.
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welcome to android
android is not pleasant as it is.
but that what makes android amazing, you can customize it to fit your needs. i had rooted, flashed, used more than 3 OS, changed my home screen a hundred times, and i still feel that there are still a lot that i can do.
Get a good android phone; now what's good for me may not be the same for you. Please do some research online and then select one. I use a Samsung Captivate and quite happy with it.
Unless, If you're an average iPhone user, YOU DON'T NEED AN ANDROID.
If you're a dedicated user, who wants to get the max out of his baby. Get Android.
So I don't know why WP7 people feel the need to bash the ones who want android for this device. I'm an HD2 owner, have had android on it for basically the entire time I have owned it...and it's been awesome, because lets face it, Windows Mobile 6.5 was garbage. I recently dropped it and cracked the screen pretty severely, checked into getting it replaced by my $8/month phone insurance (which I have since cancelled), and they (not shockingly) advised me that they can no longer replace it with another HD2, but with a HD7 instead.
So I looked here first, wondering how easily I could put android on it and was shocked by the lack of android development, and the numerous attitudes towards it. Obviously it would be better/easier to get another "4.3" inch HTC phone that runs andro-crap", but I won't be able to do that for a couple of months and was looking at a quick fix. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been done, since it's been done on almost EVERY OTHER PHONE. I just don't get it. So I'm going to buy a digitizer and just replace the screen on my HD2. Just thought I would share my experience. Oh, and yes, I have played around with WP7, and while much better than 6.5 it's just not for me.
Let the bashing commence...
No bashing here, well written post, honest and truthful. Nothing wrong with that.
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Oh yeah, thanks for the direct quote.
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Throwing android on the HD2 was always going to be an improvement... I had an HD2 and threw WP7 on it, which is why I now have an HD7... But if you liked android and the HD2, why not get the Desire HD?
Gotta love the versatility of all these HTC devices though...
I think its human nature to want something different or odd... I'm sure if it were easy to get android or WP7 on an iphone, heaps would do it just to be different...
bos2333 said:
So I don't know why WP7 people feel the need to bash the ones who want android for this device. I'm an HD2 owner, have had android on it for basically the entire time I have owned it...and it's been awesome, because lets face it, Windows Mobile 6.5 was garbage. I recently dropped it and cracked the screen pretty severely, checked into getting it replaced by my $8/month phone insurance (which I have since cancelled), and they (not shockingly) advised me that they can no longer replace it with another HD2, but with a HD7 instead.
So I looked here first, wondering how easily I could put android on it and was shocked by the lack of android development, and the numerous attitudes towards it. Obviously it would be better/easier to get another "4.3" inch HTC phone that runs andro-crap", but I won't be able to do that for a couple of months and was looking at a quick fix. I'm just surprised that it hasn't been done, since it's been done on almost EVERY OTHER PHONE. I just don't get it. So I'm going to buy a digitizer and just replace the screen on my HD2. Just thought I would share my experience. Oh, and yes, I have played around with WP7, and while much better than 6.5 it's just not for me.
Let the bashing commence...
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I agree with you completely. I'm in the exact same situation as I had a dual boot android/wp7 hd2 and the digitizer broke. Mostly I used android because of the apps, but I like wp7 better for it's sleek design.
I'm baffled how 75% of people on the hd7 threads can say 'JUST GO BUY A ANDROID PHONE" and "why would you want to dual boot an hd7?". I could buy an android phone but, stupid tmobile replaced my hd2 with an hd7 for free. it's a great phone, there are few which are better currently.
In the hd2 threads, most people wanted to push the limits and explore every possible option; that seems to be missing in large part from the hd7 threads. "just go buy an android phone" will never be the answer.
shame on you who say this...
The only reason to bash I can see, is the lack of people reading and realizing that there is a dedicated Android thread just a couple lines above, where stuff like this should have been posted. Haha...
Otherwise, there is just very little interest in getting Android on this device, which means that it makes more sense to go buy an Android phone, because you're just going to be waiting a while for an Android solution, on a device/platform that does not need it as much as something like the HD2/WinMo did. Hence why there is little to no progress on getting Android on this device.
I got a whopper from bk but i want mcdonalds fries to go with it... Nuff said.
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scrminsqrl said:
I got a whopper from bk but i want mcdonalds fries to go with it... Nuff said.
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And I would like to get Android on this device so for the sake of entertainment
Although WM7 better Android
To mods, there is already a dedicated android for hd7 thread here, could this thread be locked please?
prjkthack said:
The only reason to bash I can see, is the lack of people reading and realizing that there is a dedicated Android thread just a couple lines above, where stuff like this should have been posted. Haha...
Otherwise, there is just very little interest in getting Android on this device, which means that it makes more sense to go buy an Android phone, because you're just going to be waiting a while for an Android solution, on a device/platform that does not need it as much as something like the HD2/WinMo did. Hence why there is little to no progress on getting Android on this device.
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Oh no, I saw it, but after going through it, I didn't think it would get noticed in there.
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To mods, there is already a dedicated android for hd7 thread here, could this thread be locked please?
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This is what I'm talking about...just fyi. I couldn't care less about getting android on this phone, because I don't have this phone (if you can read). This is just a note to all of you.
argentocruz said:
Throwing android on the HD2 was always going to be an improvement... I had an HD2 and threw WP7 on it, which is why I now have an HD7... But if you liked android and the HD2, why not get the Desire HD?
Gotta love the versatility of all these HTC devices though...
I think its human nature to want something different or odd... I'm sure if it were easy to get android or WP7 on an iphone, heaps would do it just to be different...
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Because when I am able to get a new subsidized phone, it will definitely be something better than a Desire HD. I just have to wait for my contract to end first, which is in January.
no body until now find an android rom for hd7
android mozart
http://translate.googleusercontent....=61601&usg=ALkJrhjDUJ4y6X_X9fY2trv-TYbXrwtycQ
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if this is true then why dont you buy a mozart and try this rom...
The overall WP7 posse hardly resembles the WM crowd.
I've been a die hard Windows fan ever since my AT&T 8525-even before that with a couple PPC PDA's. When I lost that phone I replaced it with a Samsung Epix. Despite my horrible experience software fiascoes and the Epix, I still returned to Window's Mobile when I got my Tilt2. It was while I was dealing with my Epix that I discovered a cooked rom on a site that I had not previously heard of, XDA Developers. I now use this site a my primary guide to purchase new phones...if I can't hack it and install custom roms I have no interest in it.
Through my time with my Tilt2 I made some observations about the Windows Mobile community. Many of them were like me and had over time found many CABs that work well for them and were content with a platform that the were familiar with. Many of them were veteran programmers well versed in C++ and could really do some magic. Others just signed a two year contract with the cheapest old smart phones their provider was clearing out. What ever the reason we had our devices in a world where IOS and Android were rapidly taking over. Every one worked together and amazing things were accomplished. In the Touch Pro 2 forums, Android and Ubuntu was running, and a lot of you are familiar with everything that was done with the HD2. These things happened because WM fans by nature enjoyed doing them.
As Windows Mobile phones started to die off through breakage and device upgrades, a lot of my companions switch gears to the Iphone after it made great strides since the first gen EDGE only model, in OS capability, hardware performace, and a now enormous hacking community. Others who wanted remain anti Apple and wanted more freedom out of the box went with Android.
It finally came to my time in the begining of this year to upgrade. I knew very little about Windows Phone 7 devices except that I did not know a single person who owned one and that it was not backwards compatible with any of my software. Being completely anti Apple I began shopping around fully intending to buy an Android device. I started playing with floor models and I noticed one thing about every Android device. No matter how fast the hardware was, when I would touch and slide to unlock, there was always a noticeable lag. I found that to be a bad sign. Then when navigating the phones, they all lack the responsiveness of my wifes Iphone 4. So I tried the Windows Phone devices and they were all incredibly responsive. In all the menus and and web browser I slide my finger rapidly trying to out run the display and I swear I could not find any where that lagged. I was intrigued and hooked. After checking XDA and of all the WP7 phones available to me with AT&T, the HD7s was the only one with custom roms.
I believe this to be the only reason any of us here. Window Phone 7's foundation is simply flawless. Now that's not to say over all the OS is any where near perfect. It is severely lacking in software, customization, and even basic preferences. It is in these ways I've described WP7 as ever more "iPhone" than the iPhone itself. Now all this mean's is the biggest reason any body has a WP7 device is because the actually like it. So it's not far from reason there is little interest in changing operating systems. We've reached a point were all smart phones have virtually equal internal hardware so phone are chosen primarily based on software. The people who find themselves stuck with an HD7 against their liking are a very small fraction of an already small community. Those coming from an HD2 or a Rodium know that to get Anrdroid onto these devices took countless man hours from many very determined and very talented people working together. They just aren't with us here in the HD7 community. We are lucky to have the very talented developers that are here producing custom Windows ROMs.
Own android nd wm7/hd7
I agree with all of you but, with that said this is my take on it. I am using Simple Mobile $60 unlimited plan by the way just so everyone knows. I have both a htc hd7 with a 32gb sd in it- its running mango. I also have three android phones. HTC wildfire s in white, Samsung Vibrant, Htc mytouch 4g(my only 4g phone). Starting from the top. All my android phones have custom roms installed and are rooted. I love android as much as the next guy cause when I use those phones I love the apps and love that I have all of them nearly maxed out on there performance figures due to the roms and overclocking.
This being said all my android phones still can not keep up with my hd7 in everyday use when you talk about smoothness. Like the guy before me was saying as well how all the android phones he tested lagged when unlocking. That is still the same situation here with me after installing custom roms which did make the phones faster and after overclocking made then even faster. But even with my hd7 running a stock mango rom it still is the phone that I use most because of the smoothness and responsiveness that it has when using it for normal everyday smartphone activities like gps, internet browsing, watching videos, playing music, and texting and calling of course. This stock oem wm7.5 mango hd7 works better at all these things than any of my android phones.
This being said I would like to have android on the device as a dual boot that way I would get rid of my other android phones and just have this one phone for both. But, I would still use wm most of the time, which is the reason that I think ppl who own an hd7 or any other wm7 or 7.5 phone own them cause everything works great. and yes i agree with the other guy before me in saying that it does need more development in customizations and applications. but where it lacks here it makes up for in performance and ease of use. so in my opinion there is a plus and minus to both android phones and wm phones. the only question is which one will correct there downfalls first. apples will not be talked about with me cause i hate them but, as far as wm and droid go both need improvements.
Going with this thread this would be my reason for why i think no one has really developed an android system for this device yet cause unlike the android devices the hd7 does everything the way a smartphone should. I would dual boot but, i would never wipe wm7.5 off of it cause that would just be stupid and would be like downgrading. performance wise wm7 > android anyday until android fixes their laggy os.
Have you guys seen this
http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/htc-hd7-gets-android-via-cooked-chinese-rom-video
Relax Suc**** its on the way ...
Thats not a real HTC HD7 its a fake chinese imitation!!!!!!! that video is old
Don't get me wrong, i still love this phone, but it's just sad it is almost completely ignored by HMD
The potential of giving this device custom roms and mods has pretty much died out now, for them not giving kernel source and not even allowing us to unlock our bootloaders. rooting is also almost impossible unless you want to pay for a bootloader unlock key or stay on Nougat to achieve a temporary unlock.
It's been two years now, and nothing has changed their minds, and no huge progress was made for this device here in xda, there is actually one custom rom under development but i think it's barely usable, and it was never finished, we all know this phone will soon virtually die because of lack of software support after the 2-3 year period. If this keeps up, then there's no point for me in using this phone any longer, cuz i lived my android phones through root and customizations, and I'll get really bored if my phone can't get any of it. i thought HMD was kind enough, but they favor other higher end devices instead
GCam spared some of its worth at least, but it's only a matter of time before this device will be forgotten the way HMD forgot their purpose who broke the trust of a lot of Nokia fans.
The Nokia 6.1 might be my next phone, but after HMD's poor performance of "service" I'm having doubts now of me not ever creating custom roms for this.
If you have any opinions or if i said something wrong feel free to leave a reply below...
I've got a Nokia 6.1 and it is the best phone I've had. I enjoy using it on latest Android one pie with root. 64gb internal storage, 4gb ram :good: , I'm very happy with it
I recommend the stock rom over GSI ROMs but that's my personal preference.
Here is a list of a/b treble gsi's for Nokia 6.1
http://bit.ly/2AzgxDY
Ive been trying to unlock the bootloader, im new in this but i have no idea that nokia 5 gime so many troubles. certantly its so sad.
Czeta13 said:
Ive been trying to unlock the bootloader, im new in this but i have no idea that nokia 5 gime so many troubles. certantly its so sad.
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It's business. HMD wants you to buy a new phone.
On the other hand, it was never popular on XDA. It's on the low-end side that was a little bit more expensive than any other phone with the same specs. There was no reason to buy it in the first place.
I started the game rooting my G1. You know like the first Android phone and it had a physical keyboard. Promptly installing Cyanogen MOD and keeping the phone updated well past its prime. I have used ODIN and flashed boot.img, installed custom roms and then the g-suite afterward because it couldn't be included.
That being said the last phone I rooted was a Sony back in 2015.
I just got a Pixel 2 and was happy not rooting.
Had an iPhone 12 pro for a while but promptly lost it. I can't remember passwords for ****. What a waste.
Now I have a silly little Samsung Galaxy A01 (SM-S111DL). TracFone. Don't really have access to a computer. I found the rooting thread but it is for the ATT model. I am a little weary flashing the software provided in the thread because it says for that model only.
Just because I have rooted in the past doesn't mean I am up on the latest methods.
I will keep reading the forums and lurking wisely.
BTW I am 41 years old with a degree in Computer Science but never held a job past Technial Support for Nest Learning Thermostat.
Well I dabbled in consult work with developers looking to access the API for a credit card processing gateway. We worked with SmartBear and mainly ingenico card readers.
Currently unemployed.
Also, I dabble with Ubuntu Linux, which I feel is mainly Russian software, a bit of a conspiracy theorist.
Loved the Android SDK back in the day. I used to spin up one or two instances of a particular phone. Thought I would actually develop an app one day. Didn't quite pan out, kind of past my prime in the technology department.
Any way, print "Hello, World" and all that.
ZaphodBeetle said:
I started the game rooting my G1. You know like the first Android phone and it had a physical keyboard. Promptly installing Cyanogen MOD and keeping the phone updated well past its prime. I have used ODIN and flashed boot.img, installed custom roms and then the g-suite afterward because it couldn't be included.
That being said the last phone I rooted was a Sony back in 2015.
I just got a Pixel 2 and was happy not rooting.
Had an iPhone 12 pro for a while but promptly lost it. I can't remember passwords for ****. What a waste.
Now I have a silly little Samsung Galaxy A01 (SM-S111DL). TracFone. Don't really have access to a computer. I found the rooting thread but it is for the ATT model. I am a little weary flashing the software provided in the thread because it says for that model only.
Just because I have rooted in the past doesn't mean I am up on the latest methods.
I will keep reading the forums and lurking wisely.
BTW I am 41 years old with a degree in Computer Science but never held a job past Technial Support for Nest Learning Thermostat.
Well I dabbled in consult work with developers looking to access the API for a credit card processing gateway. We worked with SmartBear and mainly ingenico card readers.
Currently unemployed.
Also, I dabble with Ubuntu Linux, which I feel is mainly Russian software, a bit of a conspiracy theorist.
Loved the Android SDK back in the day. I used to spin up one or two instances of a particular phone. Thought I would actually develop an app one day. Didn't quite pan out, kind of past my prime in the technology department.
Any way, print "Hello, World" and all that.
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Glad to have an old timer!
Welcome officially