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Ok, so I bought a P9 ( EVA-AL00 ) since I've always been a fan of Leica products, and I'm a hobbyist photographer. First off, I currently use an iPhone 5s for the last 2 months, and before that was using a OnePlus One, and before that an iPhone 5c and Blackberry Passport, so I've had a variety ogf phones over the last 2 years. I'm not into hacking, or unlocking or locking bootloaders and that type of thing, which is why I generally like Apple products, as they just seem to work out of the box. I'm leaving my 5s because the screen is too small, and I like what the P9 offers for the money, at a cheaper price point than an iPhone 6s. And the Leica optics.
So, having said that, what do I need to know once I get the phone tomorrow? Any critical or important tips or tricks? Again, I'm not into anything complicated when it comes to phones like rooting, etc... I'm in Canada and my Carrier is Bell. My ANdroid experience has been with the OnePlus One I used for a while, and I was generally pleased with it.
Thanks
Ok, so phone arrived. I made a mistake. It's a EVA-DL00.
It's running EVA-DL00C17B163, and I'm currently updating to 168. This is a CHinese version of the phone, from my understanding. I'm using it in English, but some things are still in Chinese. Is there any way to to flash with other software to make it all English?
najibs said:
Is there any way to to flash with other software to make it all English?
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Welcome to the club
I recently bought the EVA-L10 (Chinese Dual-Sim, "premium" version, 4G/64G) while in Shanghai, and I have the same "problem" as you.
Basically since Google is not available in China, the phones sold in China don't come with Google Android framework, they use a "non-google Android", based of the official Android.
So, to your question, will it be possible to flash another firmware over your phones firmware? I say Yes, however at the same time I'm lying, because I'm also looking for this firmware for my phone, but if someone posts a EVA-L29 Firmware somewhere on the Interweb, I'm most certain this firmware will work on my phone and should also work on yours (might require bootloader unlock and root, but so what..).
But the phone is, chinese apps or not, awesome
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You can install Google stuff. Just download the Google Play store from the Huawei store, and then have at 'er installing all the normal Google Play apps that you want. That's what I'm currently doing. I just want to get rid of all the Chinese stuff on the phone. ALso, switch the keyboard to the regular Android one in the settings.
r0bb3r said:
Welcome to the club
I recently bought the EVA-L10 (Chinese Dual-Sim, "premium" version, 4G/64G) while in Shanghai, and I have the same "problem" as you.
Basically since Google is not available in China, the phones sold in China don't come with Google Android framework, they use a "non-google Android", based of the official Android.
So, to your question, will it be possible to flash another firmware over your phones firmware? I say Yes, however at the same time I'm lying, because I'm also looking for this firmware for my phone, but if someone posts a EVA-L29 Firmware somewhere on the Interweb, I'm most certain this firmware will work on my phone and should also work on yours (might require bootloader unlock and root, but so what..).
But the phone is, chinese apps or not, awesome
/S
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You can install Google stuff. Just download the Google Play store from the Huawei store, and then have at 'er installing all the normal Google Play apps that you want. That's what I'm currently doing. I just want to get rid of all the Chinese stuff on the phone. ALso, switch the keyboard to the regular Android one in the settings.
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Hi!
Of course, but there are still some applications that are "System Applications" that you cant get rid of, like HiCare, HiApp, .. etc. and if you are in a country using special characters like ü or åäö, these are not rendered correct in the Mail app (shows up as chinese chars).
BR S
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najibs said:
You can install Google stuff. Just download the Google Play store from the Huawei store, and then have at 'er installing all the normal Google Play apps that you want. That's what I'm currently doing. I just want to get rid of all the Chinese stuff on the phone. ALso, switch the keyboard to the regular Android one in the settings.
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Have you checked out the contacts yet, .. did you manage to sync contacts from your Google account? Because my contacts from google dont show up in the Huawei built in "Contacts" App (which is also used by the dialer). Only contacts from Skype, LinkedIn, WeChat etc. are shown.
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Have you checked out the contacts yet, .. did you manage to sync contacts from your Google account? Because my contacts from google dont show up in the Huawei built in "Contacts" App (which is also used by the dialer). Only contacts from Skype, LinkedIn, WeChat etc. are shown.
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No, I haven't. I'm also trying to figure out how to do that also! Let me know if you find out.
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Hi!
Because my contacts from google dont show up in the Huawei built in "Contacts" App (which is also used by the dialer). Only contacts from Skype, LinkedIn, WeChat etc. are shown.
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I wrote a guide for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66874141&postcount=14
Milamber said:
I wrote a guide for this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66874141&postcount=14
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works like a charm! thank you sir! [emoji1]
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Hi,
I also bought a P9 ( EVA-AL00 ) last June, and currently i'm having an issue.
Usually i don't have games on my phone, or almost none, but some days ago, i wanted to install Heartstone on my P9. When downloading , at about 85%, sometimes 9x% (once it reached 100%) suddently it pops out from Google Play, and don't install the game. I tried also with other games and it happens the same. It doesn't happens with every game, i tested sucessfully with Stack and Sokoban
I have plenty of free space on phone and several applications installed (no Google Play issue, i think).
After i received the phone, i download the Google services/play store APK without issues. I deactivated the chinese bloatware, with no issues. Once Google Play installed, i downloaded all other Google Apps i use and others without issues...well there is an issue i had with RT app. It installed ok, but sometimes when i want to open it, i have to try several times to open it... I click on icon but closes.
Have someone here with EVA-AL00 having this issue also?
Thanks!
Khav said:
Hi,
I also bought a P9 ( EVA-AL00 ) last June, and currently i'm having an issue.
Usually i don't have games on my phone, or almost none, but some days ago, i wanted to install Heartstone on my P9. When downloading , at about 85%, sometimes 9x% (once it reached 100%) suddently it pops out from Google Play, and don't install the game. I tried also with other games and it happens the same. It doesn't happens with every game, i tested sucessfully with Stack and Sokoban
I have plenty of free space on phone and several applications installed (no Google Play issue, i think).
After i received the phone, i download the Google services/play store APK without issues. I deactivated the chinese bloatware, with no issues. Once Google Play installed, i downloaded all other Google Apps i use and others without issues...well there is an issue i had with RT app. It installed ok, but sometimes when i want to open it, i have to try several times to open it... I click on icon but closes.
Have someone here with EVA-AL00 having this issue also?
Thanks!
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Go to Settings->Apps->Play Store->Permissions and grant storage permission to it.
erayrafet said:
Go to Settings->Apps->Play Store->Permissions and grant storage permission to it.
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Bingo!! It works like a charm!!
I had every permission activated on Play Store , except this one. Never though about this, since i already did installed several apps and those games i tested.
Thank you!!
Cheers!
r0bb3r said:
Welcome to the club
Basically since Google is not available in China, the phones sold in China don't come with Google Android framework, they use a "non-google Android", based of the official Android.
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I just bought the non-carrier specific 3G / 32G Chinese version (EVA AL00) P9 when I was in Guangzhou last week and had to do the following after coming back home to get it to work with google and sync with two google accounts.
1. Install Google Play Store from HiApp and sign in with first google account.
2. Make sure to give Google Play Store permission to access storage, otherwise large apps won't install.
3. Download apk of Google Contacts Sync from APKMirror
4. Download apk of Google Calendar Sync from APKMirror
5. Use the browser on the phone to download these two apk files and follow the instruction on the phone to install them.
Sorry I'm not allowed to post outside links yet, however google search keywords like Google Contacts Sync APK will turn up the download links.
6. Since the phone still did not allow me to add a second google account in Settings -> Accounts -> Add Account, I had to install Youtube and use the Add Account in Youtube to add a second google account.
After these steps, I was able to sync contacts and calendar events with both google accounts and install apps from Play Store.
Hi, I too recently purchased a Huawei P9 EVA- AL00 , my issue is that I cannot source the Drivers for this model and I have searched the web on several occasions and several web sites? I am trying to unblock the bootloader so I can change over to English version. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Sea Angler said:
Hi, I too recently purchased a Huawei P9 EVA- AL00 , my issue is that I cannot source the Drivers for this model and I have searched the web on several occasions and several web sites? I am trying to unblock the bootloader so I can change over to English version. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development/tools-srk-tool-useful-toos-lg-root-twrp-t3079076
So I finally received my Chinese version Mate 20 Pro Emerald variant and I spent the last 24 hours setting it up, now it's finally getting into a more or less stock android feeling. I decided to write a post because man, I've never spent so much effort just trying to setup a new phone.
Ordering
I ordered the phone from Huawei T Mall store on Nov. 11th. I paid about 1250 CAD through Alipay for the phone and ~ 600 RMB having my friend sending it to me via DHL. I also had to pay some import tax getting it into Canada but it's just bad luck, plus the tax really depends on how much you declare the value to be.
First Impression
I had a Oneplus 5, I like the cleanness of its ROM, it's close to stock android and I was using the Rootless Pixel 2 Launcher which makes it essentially a stock Android device. The Mate 20 Pro is a bit heavier than the Oneplus 5 and it's just slightly bigger.
I started with applying the tempered glass screen protectors I bought also from Taobao when I ordered the phone. Sadly I can't seem to get it in the right place, and it's greatly affecting the screen responsiveness and accuracy. I ended up throwing them away.
Turning it on, and I'm already having issue with the initial setup process. First of all, I was asked to create a Huawei ID. But guess what -- I live in Canada but Canada isn't an available option in the region list, somehow US is. I mean, this phone is not even available in US, why would you provide that as an option but not Canada?
I went ahead choosing US as the region. It asked for phone verification, that worked for me because US and Canada share the same country code.
After that, I uninstall a bunch of pre-installed apps -- they are mostly popular apps in China, plus a few useless utilities made by Huawei. I uninstall about 25 apps during this process.
Then I tried to restore all my apps from the old phone, first step would be getting Google Play Service working. Surprisingly Google Play Service is pre-installed. but I wasn't able to update it through the Huawei App Store, because US Huawei ID apparently is not supported. In fact I can't use any of the pre-installed Huawei apps, they are all blocked. So I deleted my account and created a Chinese one instead.
I was able to access the app store and update Google Play Service, along with Play Store. Google backup apparently didn't work. I ended up using the Huawei "Phone Clone" app to transfer all my stuff to this phone. It does the job pretty well.
Getting third party launcher working on Chinese ROM (If you have a global version then this may not apply to you)
Spent sometime getting all the apps logged in and tweaking settings, I started to look into replacing the stock launcher. But then you can't change launcher on the Chinese rom, so I did some research and here is what I did:
1. Install a third party launcher. I chose Nova Launcher here. Never used it before but Rootless Launcher kept crashing and for Rootless Pixel 2 Launcher, there is an annoying security alert saying "Google is using microphone" that kept popping up.
1. Enable developer mode
2. Enable USB Debug
3. Connect the phone to PC
4. Access ADB shell
5. uninstall stock launch: pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
6. Reboot
A few notes on using this 3rd party launcher hack:
* I also installed the Nova companion app to have Google Feed panel access.
* You need to allow Nova companion to auto-launch in Settings -> Apps -> App Launch, otherwise rebooting the phone will make Google Feed panel disappear.
* If you select gesture navigation in system setting, swiping up from bottom may not work.
Getting Google Assistant to work
The phone has the Huawei voice assistant by default, and changing the default Assistant app to Google doesn't work. The shortcut still only bring up the Huawei voice assistant. The fix is to uninstall the app using the same process above. The package name is com.huawei.vassistant. After reboot, I was able to access Google Assistant using the home button (I still prefer three key navigation). "OK Google" doesn't work on Home screen though.
Make sure push notifications are working
I also noticed I don't receive push notifications most of the time. For example, I have Duo Mobile which is used as an authenticator at work. Having the screen on, I didn't receive the push notification. I had to launch the app manually to see the authentication request. Here is a workaround:
1. Settings -> Apps -> App Launch
2. Find the app you wish to receive push notification
3. Disable auto manage, it will ask you how you want to manage manually, choose Auto-launch and Run in Background at least
Known Issues/Todo list
Here are some of the things that I'm having issue with but haven't figured out a solution yet. Please let me know if you know a solution to any of them:
1. Google Pay Contactless does not work. This is almost a deal breaker. From what I've read, it seems to be just Chinese version doesn't work.
1. LastPass accessibility setting gets reverted to off randomly. This seems to related to when I close all apps using the trashcan button on recent apps screen.
2. Default Assistant app setting mysteriously gets reset to None. Still don't understand why.
3. Text in the notification just look so bad. Also not sure how to tweak that.
4. The security alert for app using microphone keeps popping up in Google Assist and Google Feed. I'm not sure how I should feel about that...
Things I like about this device
1. Chinese version supported dual SIM. I believe the global version does not.
2. photos in low lights are awesome.
3. charging is super fast! I also got the wireless charging thing.
4. I'm happy with its battery performance so far.
5. It's a faster device overall. The games I play run smoother on this phone comparing to Oneplus 5. I understand OP5 is an older phone but that's the only reference point I got.
That's what I had so far. I'm also keeping an eye on the progress of FunkyHuawei Mate 20 Pro support -- I'm looking forward to flash the global version ROM hoping it has better google integration and less chinese-oriented useless "features".
Hope it helps!
Thanks for sharing
Does the device show as being certified in the Google Play Store? If not, this would probably explain why contactless via GP doesn't work
Minotaur said:
Does the device show as being certified in the Google Play Store? If not, this would probably explain why contactless via GP doesn't work
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Yes it shows as certified in playstore.
henexekrar said:
Yes it shows as certified in playstore.
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Hmmm interesting... is there an error message or such that might indicate why GPay doesn't work?
Minotaur said:
Hmmm interesting... is there an error message or such that might indicate why GPay doesn't work?
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when attempting to enable contactless, the following messages appear in order:
contacting your bank...
your bank is verifying your card...
added feature cannot be setup. contact your bank to resolve this issue.
I called the bank and they said they didn't get the request so they don't know what error it is.
I contacted Google and haven't got a response.
Did you already have the card in your GPay wallet, and were re-verifying, or did you add it from scratch? Guessing it may not make a difference though.
Minotaur said:
Did you already have the card in your GPay wallet, and were re-verifying, or did you add it from scratch? Guessing it may not make a difference though.
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I had the card in the wallet for a long time. Used it with my old phone without issue.
Does it support Band 66? Thanks
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I was in China last week and almost bought the Mate 20 Pro. After reading many reviews I decided to not buy the Chinese Version and pay a little more to get the Google version from Hong Kong
Any updates?
Were you able to find any way to get LastPass working properly?
Accessibility features keep resetting for me right away.
Hi, have your version finger-id? I bought a mate 20 pro red in aliexpress but i can't find the finger-id......
John_nl_74 said:
Hi, have your version finger-id? I bought a mate 20 pro red in aliexpress but i can't find the finger-id......
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The LYA-AL00 with 6 GM RAM and 128 GB storage has no fingerprint sensor. It only uses face, pattern, and password unlock.
so i ordered one of these. love cameras and this seems to be a great pocket camera/smartphone. since it isn’t a usa destined product, does anyone with experience know what i’m in for? my questions are setup, will google apps be preinstalled, like the play store and google photos? will i get security updates?
any help is greatly appreciated.
elwuero said:
so i ordered one of these. love cameras and this seems to be a great pocket camera/smartphone. since it isn’t a usa destined product, does anyone with experience know what i’m in for? my questions are setup, will google apps be preinstalled, like the play store and google photos? will i get security updates?
any help is greatly appreciated.
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Well vivo, from which place are you buying it from?
Ive seen the phone before, if its from India then it would have google apps etc.
And you would get security updates and you would have google photos.
In my mind, only China imported phones don't have google services sometimes.
Kenora_I said:
Well vivo, from which place are you buying it from?
Ive seen the phone before, if its from India then it would have google apps etc.
And you would get security updates and you would have google photos.
In my mind, only China imported phones don't have google services sometimes.
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uh oh, I ordered it from Hong Kong. fingers crossed then. should have asked here first.
Welllllll, its probably likely theres no google services, but when you get it just post a thread if you don't have it and tag me. Ill try to help you install the global version of the rom on it.
Yeah china banned google atuff with google play so your best bet is to wait till uou recieve it and flash the global rom or you should cancel and choose smth else.
Kenora_I said:
Welllllll, its probably likely theres no google services, but when you get it just post a thread if you don't have it and tag me. Ill try to help you install the global version of the rom on it.
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Can you explain how to install funtouch os firmware?
Hi,
I've got the chinese version too, and I'm based in Switzerland.
Actually, it's working good, but not perfect. Some things are missing or not working perfectly and some things are hard coded chinese. But as a daily driver for taking perfect photos, calling/messaging its "working".
Some points:
- Google (Play) Services preinstalled, can be loaded through the vivo app store when installing gmail app
- Backup/Syncing working, but the initial restore from an old phone is not offered through google initial setup
- google photos, maps and so on are working, only location history can't be enabled.
- Regular OriginOS updates
- some chinese default bloatware preinstalled, some can be uninstalled
- no google now, just a chinese vivo version
- android auto doesn't work atm
- some fine tuning necessary with default apps, and so on
- google pay, banking apps working
Over all, it's working for me, but i'm missing some tiny bits, which a global rom could fix. But in comparison what you get (camera, performance, display, price...), it's a aceptable device for me.
If you need specific infos, just leave me a note.
If there's a global rom, i would be interessfed too.
PoochieMama said:
Hi,
I've got the chinese version too, and I'm based in Switzerland.
Actually, it's working good, but not perfect. Some things are missing or not working perfectly and some things are hard coded chinese. But as a daily driver for taking perfect photos, calling/messaging its "working".
Some points:
- Google (Play) Services preinstalled, can be loaded through the vivo app store when installing gmail app
- Backup/Syncing working, but the initial restore from an old phone is not offered through google initial setup
- google photos, maps and so on are working, only location history can't be enabled.
- Regular OriginOS updates
- some chinese default bloatware preinstalled, some can be uninstalled
- no google now, just a chinese vivo version
- android auto doesn't work atm
- some fine tuning necessary with default apps, and so on
- google pay, banking apps working
Over all, it's working for me, but i'm missing some tiny bits, which a global rom could fix. But in comparison what you get (camera, performance, display, price...), it's a aceptable device for me.
If you need specific infos, just leave me a note.
If there's a global rom, i would be interessfed too.
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thanks for all that info. mine is currently in transit to me. i feel much better after reading your comments. i love taking pictures and that is my main reason for getting this phone. will for sure reach out with questions if needed after I get it.
You won't regret it. This phone just captures perfect photos. Even in comparisson to the samsung s21 ultra. My opinion (and my wife with a s21 ultra).
Some things are annyoing but i can live with it. I mean, I can even do phone calls
Just a night shot from now 2 a.m. - it's dark outside and this camera manages to capture photos like its late afternoon...
PoochieMama said:
You won't regret it. This phone just captures perfect photos. Even in comparisson to the samsung s21 ultra. My opinion (and my wife with a s21 ultra).
Some things are annyoing but i can live with it. I mean, I can even do phone calls
Just a night shot from now 2 a.m. - it's dark outside and this camera manages to capture photos like its late afternoon...
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you better get to sleep!
PoochieMama said:
Hi,
I've got the chinese version too, and I'm based in Switzerland.
Actually, it's working good, but not perfect. Some things are missing or not working perfectly and some things are hard coded chinese. But as a daily driver for taking perfect photos, calling/messaging its "working".
Some points:
- Google (Play) Services preinstalled, can be loaded through the vivo app store when installing gmail app
- Backup/Syncing working, but the initial restore from an old phone is not offered through google initial setup
- google photos, maps and so on are working, only location history can't be enabled.
- Regular OriginOS updates
- some chinese default bloatware preinstalled, some can be uninstalled
- no google now, just a chinese vivo version
- android auto doesn't work atm
- some fine tuning necessary with default apps, and so on
- google pay, banking apps working
Over all, it's working for me, but i'm missing some tiny bits, which a global rom could fix. But in comparison what you get (camera, performance, display, price...), it's a aceptable device for me.
If you need specific infos, just leave me a note.
If there's a global rom, i would be interessfed too.
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Oh google play services are preinstalled?
That's actually new to me.
Sorry, I guess I was kind of misleading with google being removed. It was banned in china but I did not know that google play services still worked.
I received it on Friday. Chinese version definitely. But Google Play Store already installed. I downloaded all the normal Google apps like Android Messages, Chrome, Contacts & Calendar and they all seem to be perfect. Thinking now, I didn’t download Maps yet. There was an originOS update available and a couple of apps had their own also, like I believe the Camera app. So I'm relieved that updates do come through.
First impressions are positive. It is sleek. Kind of nice how it comes with a screen protector pre installed and it comes with a pretty nice back cover.
I "had to have" this because like I said I love taking photos. Just for reference I have a Sony Xperia 1 ii (for sale on ebay), a Galaxy S21 Ultra (going back to Amazon) and a 12 Pro Max. I shot a lot of photos today with the X60 Pro+. They are all nice. A couple though came out tremendously well. I think to get similar photos I would have had to get my Sony a7C or Sigma fp with a fast 85mm to get the same shot. I for sure would not have gotten the same quality from my other smartphones.
Anyways I don’t think I will try to get the global software on this. Seems like I'll be good.
PoochieMama said:
Hi,
I've got the chinese version too, and I'm based in Switzerland.
Actually, it's working good, but not perfect. Some things are missing or not working perfectly and some things are hard coded chinese. But as a daily driver for taking perfect photos, calling/messaging its "working".
Some points:
- Google (Play) Services preinstalled, can be loaded through the vivo app store when installing gmail app
- Backup/Syncing working, but the initial restore from an old phone is not offered through google initial setup
- google photos, maps and so on are working, only location history can't be enabled.
- Regular OriginOS updates
- some chinese default bloatware preinstalled, some can be uninstalled
- no google now, just a chinese vivo version
- android auto doesn't work atm
- some fine tuning necessary with default apps, and so on
- google pay, banking apps working
Over all, it's working for me, but i'm missing some tiny bits, which a global rom could fix. But in comparison what you get (camera, performance, display, price...), it's a aceptable device for me.
If you need specific infos, just leave me a note.
If there's a global rom, i would be interessfed too.
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Hi from Austria perfect Summary i totally agree with you, i am happy with the China version, for that price ~ 750€ you will get nice hardware, OriginOS is also nice, i like the gesture navigation, but im missing google maps location history so much, there is some restriction on China for google services, because china dont want to be tracked by usa google... other brands from china have same issue with location history.
I found in this thread with some fix for rooted phones to enable ROM to use location history:
Ennable Google Maps Location Sharing & Location History on Chinese MIUI ROM
You need Magisk properly installed on your ROM and then download & install the following modules:
Releases · fei-ke/unlock-cn-gms
去除国行 GMS 某些限制. Contribute to fei-ke/unlock-cn-gms development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
[Magisk module] Google location history unlock for Chinese MIUI roms only
Hi, posting my Magisk mod that I am using since couple of years. This mod works and testen on K20 pro, Note 7 Pro and K30 Pro Zoom Edition. What does it do? It enabled Google location History in Google maps. This is only needed for Chinese roms...
forum.xda-developers.com
maybe @Kenora_I can help us to flash Global Rom from India... hopefully without brickung our phones
@Kenora_I is it possible to flash Global Rom with banking apps working to pay with nfc ?
best regards
Hello Everyone.
I am about to buy this phone but still having some doubts because of the OriginOS. I live in New Zealand. Just would like to ask a couple of questions:
- does it allow to install and use Nova Launcher with gestures?
- is this notification bar and settings bar changeable or at least can set up some gestures for that? Otherwise it requires to touch the top edge of the phone which is not perfect for me
- notifications are visible in Always on Display from FB, whats up, non stock phone or messages apps or not at all?
- does anyone use that with company portal and MS Authenticator? and its working fine?
- how is the battery life - roughly SOT?
I will be really grateful for any help!
Thank you!
Peter
calibra71207 said:
Hello Everyone.
I am about to buy this phone but still having some doubts because of the OriginOS. I live in New Zealand. Just would like to ask a couple of questions:
- does it allow to install and use Nova Launcher with gestures?
- is this notification bar and settings bar changeable or at least can set up some gestures for that? Otherwise it requires to touch the top edge of the phone which is not perfect for me
- notifications are visible in Always on Display from FB, whats up, non stock phone or messages apps or not at all?
- does anyone use that with company portal and MS Authenticator? and its working fine?
- how is the battery life - roughly SOT?
I will be really grateful for any help!
Thank you!
Peter
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Relevant for me too!
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Relevant for me too!
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Since nobody wants to answer, I will, but I don't use X60 pro+. I have IQOO and had x50 pro+ and therefore the answer can't fail a lot.
1. I didn't try Nova, but I installed Star Prime and it works with gestures as long as you don't uninstall original launcher.
2. Not that I'm aware of.
3. Don't use unsecure apps, but the custom dialer and messages are supported on AOD.
4. Don't use work portal, but there is no reason to not work.
5. Battery is good, one day with heavy use, two with moderate.
I'm still in the 7 day waiting period to unlock phone, currently on Chinese 13.0.25. Just wondering what the experience has been on this vs. the EU Rom available, is there an advantage to switch. Do Google apps come stock on the EU rom?
I definitely recommend the xiaomi.eu version over stock Chinese.
The major benefit is that Google apps are stock, allowing for a less limited android experience.
Beyond that, there's stuff like bloatware and non-english app removal. There's other stuff listed in their changelogs, but those few that I listed are the main things I cared for
The main downside is that there's no auto-updating since TWRP isn't available.
avoid chinese Rom! On EU everything works great
CN ROM does not work, notifications are delayed or never come through, no apps show on the lock screen and there's over 45 preinstalled Chinese apps. If you're planning to use Signal as your default messaging app, then don't.... I spent half a day trying to get Signal to show or notify but doesn't work. It worked perfectly in EEA Stable ROM.
The "find my phone" feature only works in China if logged in to your Xiaomi account and the Mi carrier services also only works in China so you have this useless bubble in the Control Center showing no information.
EU ROM didn't work well for me, slow and sluggish, WiFi hotspot wouldn't work, frequent Bluetooth disconnects. The EEA ROM that's just been released is best.
I didn't realize there was an EEA rom and a Global rom, i'm in Canada on the global ROM and everything is working fine.
Personally, i love Xiaomi EU and i prefer over the EEA/Global rom because on my last 2 phones (POCO F3 and Xiaomi 12 Pro) with the Stock ROM 5g signal doesn't work at all, once updated to the Xiaomi.eu ROM it recieve 5G signal everywhere. On plus you can have update first, and works better even on sh'tty app like FB, IG etc.
EU has been working flawlessly
bhammler said:
avoid chinese Rom! On EU everything works great
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Whats difference EU Rom and Global Rom? Will flashing new Rom erase my current apps?
ScoOby-Do0 said:
CN ROM does not work, notifications are delayed or never come through, no apps show on the lock screen and there's over 45 preinstalled Chinese apps. If you're planning to use Signal as your default messaging app, then don't.... I spent half a day trying to get Signal to show or notify but doesn't work. It worked perfectly in EEA Stable ROM.
The "find my phone" feature only works in China if logged in to your Xiaomi account and the Mi carrier services also only works in China so you have this useless bubble in the Control Center showing no information.
EU ROM didn't work well for me, slow and sluggish, WiFi hotspot wouldn't work, frequent Bluetooth disconnects. The EEA ROM that's just been released is best.
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I have found that China ROM has really bad notification problems, they do not show on lock screen, or if they do, they are delayed by hours. How can I flash Global or EU Rom? Is there a tutorial somewhere?
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I have found that China ROM has really bad notification problems, they do not show on lock screen, or if they do, they are delayed by hours. How can I flash Global or EU Rom? Is there a tutorial somewhere?
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We don't say EU rom but EEA, to avoid confusion with Xiaomi EU rom (better than stock for CN devices).
Change stock roms(dont re lock the bootloader):https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/flash-tool-guide-use-xiaomi-flash-tool.4262425/
If you install a stock rom on a CN device, you must root and use Magisk to have the play store certified, hence the interest of Xiaomi EU roms or it is not necessary for everything to work.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-miui-zeus-xiaomi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-12-pro.4400035/
Open-source is the best. Not matter who made.
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Open-source is the best. Not matter who made.
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are there any for mi 12 pro (zeus) /
Here are the main difference between
China ROM Vs EU Rom vs Global Rom
Tested on: Xiaomi 12s Ultra
All known issues that still persist as of June 2023 Miui 14.0.12.0:
China Rom:
1) contacts not at your contact list calling at your phone will always show Unknown Numbers at Notification toolbar
2) AOD display have no option to disable auto turn off if phone prolonged at dark room. So it will always turn off itself.
3) turning off Bluetooth from drop down top menu only turn off 24 hours. This will drive you insane.
4) if you use english, a brief 2 second of Chinese after reboot will show in apps like clock, and calendar app before changing to english. A lot of high end advance settings still have traces of chinese and broken english.
5) And a lot of bugs, crashes, stuttering where china developers never bother to fix.
6) installation of apk have extra security steps.
7) lots of chinese bloatware that cannot be removed. Advertisement in native apps like mi video. You might ask, i can always get vlc. Don't forget, native app functionality is always better because it have better latency! Vlc apk have audio delay! Go see for yourself...
8) feedback all in chinese and they don't read or entertained english complaints.
9) themes and wallpaper are all chinese uploaded community despite changing english.
10) does not support google hands free assistant. ok Google feature will be grey out under settings!!
11) smartwatches you bought globally will not work with playstore global apps. You need to download the chinese version to get it working. For example, Fossil Gen 5e will not work at playstore Wearable App but will work at getapps wearable app.
12)A lot of Bluetooth headset signature compatibility issues. Brands that can't be detected by xiaomi are: Audeze, Turtle Beach, Creative, etc
13) phone crash from app are very frequent. E.g app closing and reopening itself. So is like a 1 second keyboard and app minimized and maximized crash scenarios. At least once every 1 hour from intensive stress testing.
14) very aggressive miui optimization that closes app even when you told them not to. Battery life was excellent.
15) 10 second security delay on unsecure app.
16) system update 1 toogle. Getapps update for your mi apps. And playstore for your 3rd party ones. Can your mother learn this?
17) Torch light that turn itself off in 1 hour. Good luck hiking with it.
18) you can turn off miui optimization and toggle for pause activity in apps are present.
EU Rom:
1)You can't turn off miui optimization, so a few toggle like pause activity only available in off optimization settings. This will drive u nuts as rarely used apps will always need you to grant permission.
2)An active development team that actually fix things. E.g AOD display that stays on forever. Bluetooth that turn off forever from drop down. It will show phone number instead of unknown numbers from notification listing.
3) System update is slow.
4) if you encounter bug in default mi apps like, mi video, messaging, you will need to wait 3 months before it fix. Cause you can't update mi apps via Get apps. Only can update 3rd party apps via playstore.
5) installation of apk have less steps.
6) no bloatware. But still u can find some useless mi app like, mi coin, mi browser which cannot be removed. Advertisement in mi video is also removed, so is wise to use native apps for video because it have better latency!!
7) toxic community and developers that scrutinized your feedback from their forum. E.g their lead Igor is the most toxic developer i ever met. Their tester like gogocar are very helpful and resourceful. Lets hope the war in Russia won't affect their work in the long run if you know what i meant!
8) access to themes and wallpaper are still native chinese.
9) support google hands free assistant. Ok Google features.
10) global wearable apps found at playstore will work with your smart watches.
11)A lot of Bluetooth headset signature compatibility issues. Brands that can't be detected by xiaomi are: Audeze, Turtle Beach, Creative, etc
12) phone crash from app are not that frequent. E.g app closing and reopening itself. So is like a 1 second keyboard and app minimized and maximized crash scenarios. At least once every 3 hour from intensive stress testing.
13) bootloader is unlocked yet the whole rom is still not as flexible as a total rooted device.
14) less aggressive miui optimization that does not closes app when you told them not to. Battery life was excellent.
15) many will choose to go EU Rom, cause at the end of the day, you will hate miui os soo much!
16) 10 second security delay on unsecure app.
17) if you use adb shell command line is now screwed with multiple session that can't be reset to single session no more. There is a emulator user in your rom.
18) straight forward system update that updates all ur mi apps and playstore for your 3rd party ones.
19) Torch light that does not turn itself off.
20) developers hide a lot of features. You can't turn off miui optimization here. And pause app activity toggle is missing.
Global Rom
1) everything in english. If you switch to chinese or other languages, a brief moment of english will show after reboot.
2) contacts not at your least calling at your phone will always show Unknown Numbers at Notification toolbar
3) AOD display have no option to disable auto turn off if phone prolonged at dark room. So it will always turn off itself.
4) turning off Bluetooth from drop down top menu only turn off 24 hours. This will drive you insane.
5) themes and personalized uploads are in english also.
6) support google hands free assistant. Ok Google features.
7) wearable apps from playstore will work with most wearables.
8)A lot of Bluetooth headset signature compatibility issues. Brands that can't be detected by xiaomi are: Audeze, Turtle Beach, Creative, etc
9) phone crash from app are very frequent. E.g app closing and reopening itself. So is like a 1 second keyboard and app minimized and maximized crash scenarios. At least once every 1 hour from intensive stress testing.
10) lots of localized global bloatware apps. Mi video is riddle with advertisement too. So you will have to find alternative app like vlc which has audio delay latency issue in movies.
11) very aggressive miui optimization that closes app even when you told them not to. Battery life was excellent
12) 10 second security delay on unsecure app.
13) realtime updates from getapps and playstore.
14) Torch light that turn itself off in 1 hour. Good luck using it.
15) you can turn off miui optimization.
So in the end what can we learnt and summarize? Miui os is no doubt the worst android operating system in the market when in comparison to samsung one ui.
So which one would you choose? You should choose EU rom. Cause at the end of the day, is about functionality. 1 key difference is that EU Rom AOD display will have the option to stay on forever whereas the 2 other rom does not! This is a deal or no deal breaker when comparing operating system! So, better not buy xiaomi to begin with! End of story.
Hello everybody.
I'm sorry if this was asked many times. I have a Redmi Note 11 (spes) model 2201117TL running a Global MIUI ROM on Android 11. Just like many users, I hate Google Dialer and Messages, especially after using MIUI 9 with MI Dialer (with call recording) and Messages for almost 5 years on a Redmi 4X. So I want to install the Indonesian ROM, the only for my device with those apps. I downloaded the ROM "spesn_id_global_images_V13.0.7.0.RGKIDXM_20220822.0000.00_11.0_global". I don't like the Dynamic Color and some apps I use fail with Android 12 so I downloaded the last one released with Android 11. And there's no ROM without NFC for this device. I already unlocked my bootloader but I'll have to relock it in order to get Play Protect certification. The Xiaomi.eu ROM looks nice but don't want to mess around with custom recoveries and all that, I'd rather stay with official software.
So my questions:
- Is is safe to use MiFlash to flash the Indonesian version on this device?? I've seen many videos were they do it on different devices. I want to know experiences on this one.
- Is there a problem if I install a ROM with NFC on a device without NFC?
- When MIUI starts I got a message that I have to activate the device, logging into my MI account because the device it's associated with it. I guess that's because of the SIM card in it. There's no problem with that flashing the Global ROM but should I take it off now for the Indonesian??
- Is there any serious bugs on the Indonesian ROM?? I want to flash a version with Android 11 but still I'd like to know if anyone had any serious problem.
Thanks.
I did it and the flashing went fine. However, even though I locked the bootloader I lost the Play Protect Certification. I fixed it quickly following this tutorial: https://xiaomiui.net/how-to-fix-play-protect-certification-error-5405/
Now I logged in into my Google account. I'll continue installing my apps and testing the ROM. I'll keep you guys posted.
Here's an update.
Some cons:
- Google didn't restore some of my apps's data after installing them, it worked before. I had to to it manually.
- I had trouble logging into Google from inside other apps, security from Google said I did it too many times. I just tried again later.
- I noticed the back of the cellphone getting a little warm for a while, it didn't happen with the Global ROM. The Battery section said the temperature was "Medium".
- There's some flickering on the keyboard in some apps like Color Note and WhatsApp. It's somehow related to the fact that this ROM has Mint Keyboard installed as a default (nobody ever mentioned that). If I select that keyboard, the flickering it's gone, I'd use it if I could add other languages besides English (I don't speak any of the other indian gibberish it supports). But if I select Gboard, no matter if I disable Mint Keyboard or not, the flickering it's sometimes there.
- The worst: I have the feeling that this ROM drains the battery faster than the Global ROM. I have no way to know for sure, it's just a perception. I guees it could be related to the fact that I use a Xiaomi Backup to restore my apps and settings, that backup was made on a Global ROM, that process messed some things up. Or maybe the fact I couldn't connect to Google from the beggining. I'll try later a factory reset and do everything manually again. Last thing to try: update MIUI to Android 12, it worked pretty bad on a Global ROM, maybe it's better on this one.
Some pros:
- MIUI Dialer and call recording work like a charm. The quality of the recording beats the sh*t out of the one of any third app (I tried several on the Global ROM)
- MI Calendar works perfectly, that's another simple and useful Xiaomi app missing from the Global ROM (Google Calendar is not that bad though).
- Bluetooth range seems improved: I can walk away from my cellphone and unlike before, I don't start losing signal on my earbuds right away. This is very useful to me, I love listening to music while I do things but I can't always bring the phone with me.
This is all for now.
Thank you keep updated this thread.