Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
Now that it's summer my leg can get a little sweaty. But my phone in pocket triggers off my leg due to the moisture! Then the phone will randomly edit various things as the phone bounces around in my pocket.
WTF, why won't the phone just detect the darkness and know it's in my F*ING pocket! My S9+ was really good about this, it knew when it was in the pocket and ignored my sweaty leg.
But with this retarded S21 Ultra, it doesn't seem to know when it's in your pocket. I've already lost several important appointments and tasks (my calendar and task lists widgets are on the main screen) because the dumb phone let my *LEG* edit/destroy/delete the important tasks and calendar entries.
I'm holding out hope that maybe this is not how the phone is designed to work, maybe I can fix it by doing a factory reset. But I recall other posts complaining about how the phone is too retarded to detect being in the pocket when it comes to the Always On Display (AOD) and just keeps the display on while in the pocket too. So maybe it's a fatal design flaw of the phone, where if it is hot outside and you have moisture on your leg, your phone will think your leg is typing and just randomly change things.
Please help me understand whether this is a fatal design flaw or just some bug or what!?
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
KingFatty said:
Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
enigmaamit said:
Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Yes, lift to wake was already disabled while the problem happens. The phone still wakes from "taps" caused by the leg.
I want to clarify, the problem is not caused by the phone unlocking or locking.
The problem is because the phone is not ignoring screen taps when in the pocket. It thinks I'm double-tapping to wake the phone.
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
Keeping the phone locked would just transform this to a new problem - how do I prevent my phone from waking up in my pocket and wasting energy while my leg enters various unlock codes by itself.
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Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
Keep the back of the phone towards your leg, problem solved.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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Yup, you may be right. Ideally they should last a lifetime. But all mechanical parts are prone to failure. Same thing holds true with charging ports - they shouldn't fail, but often do. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it's something to keep in mind.
I've had my HTC power key fail on me due to constant use over 2 years, and ever since then I've stuck to using the screen for wake-up. Needn't happen to everyone, but once bitten, twice shy, right?
The screen facing outwards is a good idea and it was the first solution that came to mind when I was having accidental wake-up issues. Tried it for a few days but stopped using it because it's awkward for me (camera bump irritates thigh) and it was un-intuitive to take out the phone, then turn it around in the hand to start using it. I just wasn't comfortable using it that way.
Like I said, this set-up works best for me, everyone might have their own way of doing things
All I know is that with this set-up, I don't have any more accidental wake-ups while the phone is in the pocket. That was the main requirement.
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
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Yes, that's the one I was talking about. Like you said, it doesn't work consistently. No idea why. I've always had it on.
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I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
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If you'd like to keep the tap to wake feature on, then the best solution for now appears to be what @aj7400 and @blackhawk have suggested - Keep the phone screen facing away from the thigh.
The screen of my phone frequently turns on when it is in my pocket and the phone starts performing some tasks like playing music.
Does anyone of you experience the same problem ? Is there any method to prevent accidental touches when the phone is locked ?
Edit: sorry I didn't notice this thread, so I created another one for the same problem. I'll try some of the solutions you proposed guys, hopefully it will fix the problem.
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Nope. Happened to me in Dark blue denims as well as black trousers.
It's not consistent. Works most of the time but fails every once in a while.
For me, usually I become aware of it when i hear the dialer beeps (somehow the screen taps end up on the emergency call dialer screen) go to town.
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
Have you also tried just initiating LOCKDOWN MODE via the power button before a run?
I'm guessing that your leg and the sweat and the fabric combine to give the electric feel of a skin's surface that activates the phone?
You could also use a Bixby Routine to disable double-tap to wake?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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The Huawei mate 20 has much more major issues than our SK allies flagship phones do in more ways than one
I don't have these issues on the 10+ unless a put the phone facing my leg on the display side.
You should have a good case that has side protectors slightly higher than the display plus end display protection in the case ie Zizo Bolt case. Otherwise a face plant can easily destroy the display. These phones need case protection... before they kiss the concrete.
This also help stop accidental touches both when on and off. It makes the phone easier to hold and use as well.
Face the display away from your body. That should be more than enough...
If it's really still a problem limit display timeout to 1 minute.
Use only the power button or volume control buttons to activate the phone.
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Use a case clip holster.
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Well, in conclusion I can only say that the setup is working... Haven't changed anything since then and no accidental pocket mishaps yet. ATP and Double tap to wake are still off.
BTW, your idea of a Bixby routine trigger to disable double tap when heading out to walk is quite neat
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Hello!
I have came across 2 annoying problems - maybe somebody can help with them.
1) Pressing IE key + action (dpad center key) invokes screen alignment application. I'm using S2U2 and can't find a way to prevent this shortcut from working when phone is locked by S2U2. Because of that screen alignment is accidentally launched often enough to become major annoyance.
Is there any way to fix it? Like disabling screen alignment shortcut, configuring S2U2 to lock hardware keys or in the worst case fully disabling IE key ?
2) The second problem - sometimes i find my kaiser switched to landscape mode. It has happened only when i'm reaching for phone in pocket to answer a call - so it's possible i've accidentally pressed some keys or something. It happened also after i disabled autoswitching to landscape mode after sliding it open.
Of course after it has switched to landscape mode it switches back to portrait, and during this time (which can take few secs and is annoying) i cannot answer the call.
For #1 - stop pressing the IE and Action key at the same time. Pretty simple fix.
For #2 - I don't really have a good answer for you. I would have suspected you were opening the keyboard slightly when pulling it from your pocket, but that wouldn't matter if you disabled the function. So, can't say for sure... are you running 3rd party apps, different ROM, etc.?
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Hello!
I have came across 2 annoying problems - maybe somebody can help with them.
1) Pressing IE key + action (dpad center key) invokes screen alignment application. I'm using S2U2 and can't find a way to prevent this shortcut from working when phone is locked by S2U2. Because of that screen alignment is accidentally launched often enough to become major annoyance.
Is there any way to fix it? Like disabling screen alignment shortcut, configuring S2U2 to lock hardware keys or in the worst case fully disabling IE key ?
2) The second problem - sometimes i find my kaiser switched to landscape mode. It has happened only when i'm reaching for phone in pocket to answer a call - so it's possible i've accidentally pressed some keys or something. It happened also after i disabled autoswitching to landscape mode after sliding it open.
Of course after it has switched to landscape mode it switches back to portrait, and during this time (which can take few secs and is annoying) i cannot answer the call.
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What you are describing as annoying are conveniences to those of us who don't carry our phones in our pockets. No, HTC does not make double commands for every function, one to make the phone easier to use and one to disable all the " easy " functions for those who insist on carrying around a $500 phone like it was a pack of 25 cent gum.
A little preachy? Good!
Ask the other members here if this sounds familiar: "Cheap f**king phone, screen cracked first week I had it, I took it out of my pocket one day.........." My touch screen no longer works, I took it out of my pocket one day............"
50% of all the bad things that happen to people's phones around here start with. "When I took the phone out of my pocket........"
Want your phone to continue to work great? Make believe it is an expensive piece of electronics. Take f**king care of it
P.S. Ooh big step down off the soap box
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What you are describing as annoying are conveniences to those of us who don't carry our phones in our pockets. No, HTC does not make double commands for every function, one to make the phone easier to use and one to disable all the " easy " functions for those who insist on carrying around a $500 phone like it was a pack of 25 cent gum.
A little preachy? Good!
Ask the other members here if this sounds familiar: "Cheap f**king phone, screen cracked first week I had it, I took it out of my pocket one day.........." My touch screen no longer works, I took it out of my pocket one day............"
50% of all the bad things that happen to people's phones around here start with. "When I took the phone out of my pocket........"
Want your phone to continue to work great? Make believe it is an expensive piece of electronics. Take f**king care of it
P.S. Ooh big step down off the soap box
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*sniffs* hmm whats that smell, its the buring of you being flamed BIG TIME
denco7 said:
Ask the other members here if this sounds familiar: "Cheap f**king phone, screen cracked first week I had it, I took it out of my pocket one day.........." My touch screen no longer works, I took it out of my pocket one day............"
50% of all the bad things that happen to people's phones around here start with. "When I took the phone out of my pocket........"
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I'm not so sure, maybe some people are just careless fools.
I've had my Kaiser for a few months and a Wizard before than for 18 months. Both have been kept in my pocket pretty much constantly and have never had anything more than the slightest of scratches on the casings.
Then again, i'm not stupid enough to keep my phone in the same pocket as coins, keys or other myriad sharp things...
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I'm not so sure, maybe some people are just careless fools.
I've had my Kaiser for a few months and a Wizard before than for 18 months. Both have been kept in my pocket pretty much constantly and have never had anything more than the slightest of scratches on the casings.
Then again, i'm not stupid enough to keep my phone in the same pocket as coins, keys or other myriad sharp things...
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Where as a lot of other people unfortunately are
Well, to give you a tip about question #2 if you are going to carry it in the beltcase that came with the phone. If you are not careful pusing the phone up of the case you might just push the keyboard part and it doesn´t take much to trigger landscape mode. By now I get the phone up without this happening but it took some getting used to.
And I would not advise carrying the phone in your pants front pocket. A friend of mine cracked the screen of his brand new N95 this way, tight designer jeans pocket in this case = dead expensive phone.
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Want your phone to continue to work great? Make believe it is an expensive piece of electronics. Take f**king care of it
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And what should i do ? Keep it home on the shelf ? A phone is meant to use it. I've found that the screen is hard to clean because of the higher edges. What would be your solution - don't touch it ? The phone is slow when switching to landscape and back - don't use landscape mode ? If something is wrong - it's my fault for trying to use it ?
*rant off*
Actually i was not correct (blame my english) - i'm carrying it in a waist case, not pocket. And from what i've gathered - the magnetic lock could be the reason of switching to landscape mode. I've read something about magnetic locks triggering the slideout sensor.
But my collegue said he disabled autoswitching to landscape mode and was still experiencing this problem (have to doublecheck it though).
As for first case (screen align shortcut) - can't help. I often accidentally press them when taking out of case. Tried to install AEBPlus and remap some buttons, but that didn't help. It actually suprises me why HTC choosed so easily pressed button combination.
A solution would be to stop using S2U2, as the default device lock correctly locks the keypad and this shortcut dosesn't work. It would be pity though, as i came to like S2U2.
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I honestly think it is far too sensitive. I just got my X today and I set it in my passenger seat to drive. The active display turned on about every 4 seconds because of the tiny bumps from driving. With the IR sensors turned on the display is turned on every time I set down my phone. I emailed Moto about making some kind of sensitivity setting. What do you guys think?
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I honestly think it is far too sensitive. I just got my X today and I set it in my passenger seat to drive. The active display turned on about every 4 seconds because of the tiny bumps from driving. With the IR sensors turned on the display is turned on every time I set down my phone. I emailed Moto about making some kind of sensitivity setting. What do you guys think?
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I wouldn't worry about it. It barely uses any power when it turns on because amoled. If it was an LCD screen, you bet I would be complaining
sent from my Moto X (2014)
0.0 said:
I wouldn't worry about it. It barely uses any power when it turns on because amoled. If it was an LCD screen, you bet I would be complaining
sent from my Moto X (2014)
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I'm not really worried about battery life so much as it just annoys me to see my screen constantly turn on. Well, partly.
I made it like the 2013 version. Shut off the hand motion sensors so now it only responds to movement of the device. MUCH better on battery
Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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2nd that, if I could turn off the movement sensor I would also. The gesture sensor works pretty great, the movement sensor is too sensitive.
Yeah, mine blinks on and off all the time regardless of notifications or not. Received an update the other day for the sensors and it didn't change anything.
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I think you may be wrong on this, if you wave at the phone or move it a little bit the display will show you the time, even if there is no notifications, i too have this issue, i leave my phone on the dash and since the back of the phone is curved , it will tilt a little , enough to activate the display. No biggie, but just saying it happens .
If it had the option, my setup would be OFF Movement sensor, and ON (ir) gesture sensor . i see myself frequently waving at the screen to check the time, and now i do this thing where i dont use the wake button to unlock the phone while it sits on my desk, i make the display wake with my hand and unlock it..
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I totally agree. IR only and no movement would be great. I have IR turned off right now and I wish it didn't annoy me to have both on. I paid for these fancy new IR sensors and I'm not even using them.
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Active Display turns on as long as you have notifications, it's not road bumps setting it off.
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I know what you're talking about, the screen does flash if you have a notification. I can obviously tell I don't have one, just take your phone and tap the corner of it or set it on your couch and then sit down, your active display will turn on.
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I know what you're talking about, the screen does flash if you have a notification. I can obviously tell I don't have one, just take your phone and tap the corner of it or set it on your couch and then sit down, your active display will turn on.
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If you are worried about the phone activating the screen too frequently - I think having it upside down will prevent that. The active screen doesn't turn on when in a pocket, and I think that could also be said for being upside down on the car seat next to you.
jasoraso said:
If you are worried about the phone activating the screen too frequently - I think having it upside down will prevent that. The active screen doesn't turn on when in a pocket, and I think that could also be said for being upside down on the car seat next to you.
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I didn't think about that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Anyone else having problems with the sensitivity on fast scrolling? Seems to not be as smooth or compared to the iPhone 6 and HTC One M8 I have been playing with...It's almost too sensitive or something, I can't quite put my finger on it.
Do you mean the effect where things sometimes bounce back while scrolling?
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Do you mean the effect where things sometimes bounce back while scrolling?
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Basically, yes...Have you noticed this too?
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I can't quite put my finger on it.
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y2jdmbfan said:
Basically, yes...Have you noticed this too?
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There is an earlier topic about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/swipe-issues-t2888154
The phone has an extra-sensitive touch screen because it has a "glove mode", and I'm thinking the effect of the technology for that glove mode isn't completely suppressed when the glove mode is disabled, so the touch screen would still be slightly more sensitive than those of other phones, even when glove mode is disabled.
If glove mode is enabled, the touch screen is so incredibly sensitive that without gloves, it will register a touch when you hover your finger about a millimetre above the touch screen.
I found that for me it helps to use "lighter" and shorter swipes. Also after a swipe lifting my finger a bit higher off the screen than I was used to.
Some people might always have been doing shorter and lighter swipes, hence not everyone is experiencing the problem. It's also been said on the Xperia support forum that not all units use the same glass for the front; some use "gorilla glass", others use "dragontrail" glass. That could also be influencing the touch screen sensitivity/behaviour.
I've adjusted my swiping habits relatively quickly and now I get the bounce back effect only once in a while.
I do hope that Sony comes with a firmware fix to compensate for the over-sensitivity though.
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hi, is it normal? happen to my unit also.. quite annoying i can tell.. different with my TX..
Go into developer options and enable "Show touches", perhaps touch the screen a few times then turn off show touches.
Sorts it out for me! I was having a nightmare swiping down to select words in Fleksy.
This workaround will do for me until Sony fix it properly!
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Go into developer options and enable "Show touches", perhaps touch the screen a few times then turn off show touches.
Sorts it out for me! I was having a nightmare swiping down to select words in Fleksy.
This workaround will do for me until Sony fix it properly!
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I really wish there was a way to turn down the sensitivity. During typing, I frequently have screen presses register as very short swipes, which is incredibly irritating, as I then have to backspace and delete two words.
Not really helping you, but this shows how sensitive the z3c display is:
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Not really helping you, but this shows how sensitive the z3c display is:
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Touch screens usually respond to metal. The screen of my Z2 tablet does.
My screen is so sensitive I can operate it using my leg... through the pocket. I saw in Z1 and Z2 threads that there is a config file that can be adjusted, however I'd have to root in order to do that, and I don't want to risk losing my warranty (esp. not when reading about glass breaking by itself).
It's not a massive problem -- all it takes is switching off "double tap to wake" and camera launch button. But those are features that are useful. On the other hand, having my phone suddenly switch Torch on, call a random person in my phonebook or reorder icons on the launcher desktop isn't all that exciting either -- not a fan of surprises.
Has anyone else found the Z3 Compact screen too sensitive? (Glove mode is off, obviously.)
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My screen is so sensitive I can operate it using my leg... through the pocket. I saw in Z1 and Z2 threads that there is a config file that can be adjusted, however I'd have to root in order to do that, and I don't want to risk losing my warranty (esp. not when reading about glass breaking by itself).
It's not a massive problem -- all it takes is switching off "double tap to wake" and camera launch button. But those are features that are useful. On the other hand, having my phone suddenly switch Torch on, call a random person in my phonebook or reorder icons on the launcher desktop isn't all that exciting either -- not a fan of surprises.
Has anyone else found the Z3 Compact screen too sensitive? (Glove mode is off, obviously.)
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On my previous phone (xperia acro s) it often happened that my leg messed with the phone when the screen went on for the alarm going off in my pocket. It was really annoying. I was always afraid that some important settings changed without knowing it.
My screen is so sensitive that I the last couple of weeks only have managed to send a few sms without having to delete several words that are written wrong...!
The speeddialer is also terrible and often leads to wrong contacts...
This phone is by far the worst phone I have ever had regarding these issues!
Is this a sign of a faulty phone or can you relate to these problems as well?
Is there a solution???
My speed dial wasn't working out of the box. Had to make a factory reset, that fixed it. Sensitivity isn't interfering with my writing though. My previous phone was a bit bigger so I had to get used to writing on a smaller keyboard. But why would touchscreen sensitivity be an issue when writing anyway? Are you using a swipe keyboard?
No I'm just using it out of the box settings...? I can see swipe is enabeled but I text normal... I have had to disable autocorrecting words when I write... It is really strange... I have had many different smartphones over the last 15 years and this is by far the most responsive ever tending to be useless because of the many mistakes I make during calls and sms...
I never had any issues what so ever with my M7...?
I have just disabled "motioninput" (roughly translated from danish...) under Xperia-texting and this seems to have helped alot!!!
I'm on the same boat - it's too sensitive compared to my m8. Hoping for update to fix it
You really should try to do what I did and disable motioninput! It really helps ??
I'm on the same boat - it's too sensitive compared to my nexus 4. Hoping for update to fix it
I go into running apps and force stop com.sonymobile.touchscreen.touchfilter.tfpss and it seems to be a little better, still sensitive but at least no bouceback. I should try pm blocking it.
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I go into running apps and force stop com.sonymobile.touchscreen.touchfilter.tfpss and it seems to be a little better, still sensitive but at least no bouceback. I should try pm blocking it.
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I've tried this as well, but unfortunately no change, I still get bounce-backs when I don't use particularly light and short swipes.
Strange thing is happening recent to me...
Namely, while using headphones while talking on the phone, the unit gets unlocked while in pocket and problems arise with spontaneous keys getting activated.
If even cannot be explicitly locked by pressing the power button.
Have not found a solution to this problem, and it's strange why the proximity sensor does not work in pocket.
Cannot remember whether this was previously, or is it since last ROM upgrade.
Anyone having same problem?
tomsag said:
Strange thing is happening recent to me...
Namely, while using headphones while talking on the phone, the unit gets unlocked while in pocket and problems arise with spontaneous keys getting activated.
If even cannot be explicitly locked by pressing the power button.
Have not found a solution to this problem, and it's strange why the proximity sensor does not work in pocket.
Cannot remember whether this was previously, or is it since last ROM upgrade.
Anyone having same problem?
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Yep I have the same thing... Today my pocket took 9599295 pictures and movies.. also when I'm a bit sweat my pocket dial random numbers. I've noticed that when screen is touched and disnt recognize fingerprint then whole lockscreen shows up and its easy way to random open dial or camera... Its rly anoying, because I dont want to hide phone screen outside of the skin. (Its easier to break screen if I hit something with my leg.)
Dunno why it doesnt use proximity sensor to recognize that phone is in the pocket like every other brand... :/
Do you have the double tap to wake up activated?
I had this problem a while ago and it was the double tap that played all kinds of tricks calling emergency and taking pictures in my pocket! Disable double tap to wake up screen and the problem goes away.
Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
Gokh said:
Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Tried everything but the problem is eventually still there. Actually I've found a bug, namely the display will wake up once touched several times near the center of the fingerprint reader. Try it yourself.
Not nice - cannot avoid to happen it sometimes even if all options are disabled.
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Tried everything but the problem is eventually still there. Actually I've found a bug, namely the display will wake up once touched several times near the center of the fingerprint reader. Try it yourself.
Not nice - cannot avoid to happen it sometimes even if all options are disabled.
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I didn't have this problem. If I try now and touch the part with the scanner, doesn’t have to be just the centre of the scanner, rapidly around ten times the lock screen will turn on, but nothing happens when I touch the shortcuts. Perhaps they are disabled, so the only thing that happens if the scanner is touched again is that the numpad to unlock with pin appears.
This is not good as it may severely affect battery life if it happens a lot. This clearly must be a bug!
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I didn't have this problem. If I try now and touch the part with the scanner, doesn’t have to be just the centre of the scanner, rapidly around ten times the lock screen will turn on, but nothing happens when I touch the shortcuts. Perhaps they are disabled, so the only thing that happens if the scanner is touched again is that the numpad to unlock with pin appears.
This is not good as it may severely affect battery life if it happens a lot. This clearly must be a bug!
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Even worse, since it is happening all the time while on a call via BT and my phone is in the pocket. I am now thinking about to switch over to my old MI8...
Cannot understand why the keyboard is not disabled in the pocket. Seems so easy to do it but it's as it seems on.
tomsag said:
Even worse, since it is happening all the time while on a call via BT and my phone is in the pocket. I am now thinking about to switch over to my old MI8...
Cannot understand why the keyboard is not disabled in the pocket. Seems so easy to do it but it's as it seems on.
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My only solution was to buy a flip case. At first, I disabled the fingerprint reader by removing all fingerprints and setting up face recognition, but this didn’t fix the problem you are talking about. I don’t really like flip cases, but the Nillkin QIN Smartcase is rather good.
So now I ‘m eagerly awaiting a fix from Xiaomi so I can strip the Mi9 again!
Gokh said:
Disable the fingerprint icon on when the screen if off.
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Where can the fingerprint icon be disabled? Thank's.
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Where can the fingerprint icon be disabled? Thank's.
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Disabling the fingerprint icon has no effect on the problem we are talking about here. The only way to make the problem go away is to remove all the stored fingerprints thus disabling the use of fingerprints all together. This will shut off the fingerprint sensor doing away with this problem in a crude way.
If you really are looking for a setting, please use the search function at the top of the settings.
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Disabling the fingerprint icon has no effect on the problem we are talking about here. The only way to make the problem go away is to remove all the stored fingerprints thus disabling the use of fingerprints all together. This will shut off the fingerprint sensor doing away with this problem in a crude way.
If you really are looking for a setting, please use the search function at the top of the settings.
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Thanks for the prompt reply. I don't have the problem and just wanted to know where I can disable the fingerprint icon. Thanks again.
New uppdate out that include Pocket Mode. MIUI-V10.2.27.0PFAEUXM EEA version.
I often find that my phone is unlocked or pocket dialed in my pocket, occasionally feeling a little vibration when I guess it is trying to unlock.
I unlock with fingerprint usually. My trouser pockets clearly don't have my fingerprints pressing against the sensor.
I've turned on the "pocket mode" option in advanced settings but it still does it.
Is there any way I can fix this? I am not rooted and have locked bootloader.
Thanks
batjon said:
I often find that my phone is unlocked or pocket dialed in my pocket, occasionally feeling a little vibration when I guess it is trying to unlock.
I unlock with fingerprint usually. My trouser pockets clearly don't have my fingerprints pressing against the sensor.
I've turned on the "pocket mode" option in advanced settings but it still does it.
Is there any way I can fix this? I am not rooted and have locked bootloader.
Thanks
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I have the same problem
Dave.a said:
I have the same problem
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At least they are consistent
I'm using Pocket Lock from Play Store, I set it to lock my phone when it's upside down and the screen is getting turned on.
It's not perfect, but solves the above problem which annoyed me as well as you.
Edit: I've turned off the phone's own pocket mode, Pocket Lock alone is sufficient enough.
batjon said:
I often find that my phone is unlocked or pocket dialed in my pocket, occasionally feeling a little vibration when I guess it is trying to unlock.
I unlock with fingerprint usually. My trouser pockets clearly don't have my fingerprints pressing against the sensor.
I've turned on the "pocket mode" option in advanced settings but it still does it.
Is there any way I can fix this? I am not rooted and have locked bootloader.
Thanks
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Big problem also for me, I've made like a thousand call or multiple WhatsApp forward...
I solved turning off face unlock. Just using the fingerprint or sequence
The most confusing thing here is how on earth does the phone accept the unlock while in pocket? When using my finger it rejects it often enough.. in my pocket my thigh has a higher success rate? I doubt it randomly would draw the right pattern so often.
So all a thief would have to do is put the phone in their pocket and it unlocks eventually!
Use a case/care when placing in pocket and place the back the phone against your skin, not the display.
What's really disturbing is when you find it has opened setup pages you don't even recognize
Has anybody tried Pocket Lock? ASUS' built-in pocket mode is very buggy, it would be more than enough to check the gyroscope if the phone is in mostly vertical position (upside down or vice versa), and when the proximity sensor shows almost 0 distance to something, the screen should stay off and the phone locked. That's what Pocket Lock provides a working solution for - I'm not the developer, so I'm not advertising it, but as somebody who had the same problem as you have in this subtopic, I bought the pro version and the "ghost unlocking" is now gone.
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Has anybody tried Pocket Lock? ASUS' built-in pocket mode is very buggy, it would be more than enough to check the gyroscope if the phone is in mostly vertical position (upside down or vice versa), and when the proximity sensor shows almost 0 distance to something, the screen should stay off and the phone locked. That's what Pocket Lock provides a working solution for - I'm not the developer, so I'm not advertising it, but as somebody who had the same problem as you have in this subtopic, I bought the pro version and the "ghost unlocking" is now gone.
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Thanks. And also to the previous poster about this app.
Once installed do you lose access to fingerprint unlock etc?
batjon said:
Thanks. And also to the previous poster about this app.
Once installed do you lose access to fingerprint unlock etc?
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There's an alternative locking method to keep fingerprint unlocking, but seemingly it doesn't work under A12 - still, you can keep using the fingerprint reader until Pocket Lock has locked your device, which is better than call anybody from your pocket.
BTW, your pocket won't unlock your phone as stated in one of the previous posts, but an incoming call will turn your screen on, and if you're unlucky, on the virtual dial pad your pocket will enter numbers.