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Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
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are you on 1.29?
the photo`s are overexposed, the one sets the exposure on what it is focusing on, so i would have though it focused on the dark water and raised the exposure, that`s is why the white birds are overexposed, if you focused on a white bird, the one would reduce the exposure, and give more detail on the birds.
You know you can touch the screen to focus, but there is a setting in the menu to take a photo automatically when you click on an area of the screen.
I wish there was an total area exposure mode instead of the focus spot one.
John.
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
valdigre said:
Hi all,
I have bought the phone yesterday, stock, unlocked latest software.
Look at those pictures, especially white birds... Ridiculous, even some white tint over seagulls, zero details on white feathers.
No sun, normal Irish day..
Please comment... Stock camera settings.
http://db.tt/BnlPNQqy
http://db.tt/PTM8fnBE
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It's called metering. When you tap on the water to focus (dark), the camera turns the light up so that the water is clearly visible and perfectly exposed. But since you're making dark brighter, the brights will naturally be even brighter. You want the feathers to show detail, you tap on them and it adjusts the light so that they are darker and you can see detail at the expense of even darker water.
Your best bet in these kind of high contrast situations is to use HDR mode. It takes 1 under-exposed image (dark) and 1 slightly over-exposed image (bright) and merges the 2 together. Dark areas will be brighter and bright areas will be darker, giving the image a little fake look, but evenly exposed throughout.
On dSLRs, HDR actually takes THREE images to combine (sometimes even 5). This gives the processor more choices to pick and choose the best parts of each image to merge to a final picture.
SLver said:
that ^
I'm not an expert but, I think you just need to focus manually (press on the screen to focus as Tinderbox said) to avoid an overexposed picture...
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Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
yeah do some metering and try different types of shots,
valdigre said:
Thanks for your replies, guys.
I don't remember now, what I have been focusing on - was it the swans/seagulls or dark water, pavement. I think I tried both, focusing on different areas of the screen and the result was the same.
Same goes for videos, birds are overblown and shine like some white lanterns...
My firmware is 1.29.401.16
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Just some samples to explain my previous post. First pic is me focusing on the wall, which is dark. The wall is now not but my lightsource is completely blown out.
As one pic shows me focusing on the light. Since it's bright, the camera has to darken the whole scene so I can actually see the object I focused on, turning the rest of the scene dark.
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Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
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http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
It's just the camera. I tested it against an s4 and an Xperia z. Indoor shots were way better on the one than either of them but both beat out the one hands down when it came to outdoor shots. I have tried everything and can't get a really good outdoor shot. I would like to see the result of someone porting the Xperia z camera app to our device but I don't know if it is possible.
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valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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Those first picture is terrible...
Could you post more pictures because that kind of terrible picture i have never had with the htc one...
So we can see if its realy broken
valdigre said:
Guys, I know what you all mean, I know how to make pictures, good ones. It is the first phone I have that in auto mode makes such a scrappy photos...
Look at those:
http://db.tt/zBmK28lA
http://db.tt/KlhAMEKs
Those are pathetic details on whites, I was focusing on white feathers and still terrible. I even lowered exposure but this is not ideal as well. Hdr photos are the same for whites, still overblown...
Camera fault?
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It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
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SkizzMcNizz said:
It looks just like what ArmedandDangerous explained. In the first picture you seem to be focused on the water and the second it looks like you're focused on the birds.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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Hey guys,
The problem is, that some extra white/bright objects are too small for the camera to catch focus for and adjust the settings.
I played with settings a bit over the weekend and the camera focuses OK on brighter objects, as long as they are big enough...
A bit of a shame, nor my Lumia 920, nor even galaxy S2 has problems like this... I guess, I can live with it, though
We gave our Nexus 5 in the hands of a photographer (friend of mine) for a month, and this is what we get!
Very impressive!
http://www.androidworld.it/2014/01/...i-di-un-fotografo-il-nostro-test-foto-209321/
cisoprogressivo said:
We gave our Nexus 5 in the hands of a photographer (friend of mine) for a month, and this is what we get!
Very impressive!
http://www.androidworld.it/2014/01/...i-di-un-fotografo-il-nostro-test-foto-209321/
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Knowing a thing or two about taking picture taking results in some impressive pictures.
Whodathunkit!
Cirkustanz said:
Knowing a thing or two about taking picture taking results in some impressive pictures.
Whodathunkit!
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yup
There's some pretty severe pink-camera-problem going on in the center of most of the photos.
Wow, these look great.
Getting excited to see if I'll be able to get shots which look are remotely as good
and you had to get a photographer for those shots? :laugh:
anyways, OP has "generating clicks" written all over it.
Nice shots! I especially like how well OIS works on the n5 when taking videos too, much better than the n4.
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There's some pretty severe pink-camera-problem going on in the center of most of the photos.
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I think that issue is pretty common these days, you camera might even produce those with the very same conditions.
Nice Pic's, probably could have been a litter better if it was from a White N5
Grande ciso!
EarlZ said:
I think that issue is pretty common these days, you camera might even produce those with the very same conditions.
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My N4 has it as well, I agree, but not to the extent as observed in those photos.
ghettopops said:
Nice Pic's, probably could have been a litter better if it was from a White N5
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O_O explain
biscuitownz said:
O_O explain
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Auto correct. Little. White N5's are better than the black ones
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Auto correct. Little. White N5's are better than the black ones
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How are they a little better?
cisoprogressivo said:
We gave our Nexus 5 in the hands of a photographer (friend of mine) for a month, and this is what we get!
Very impressive!
http://www.androidworld.it/2014/01/...i-di-un-fotografo-il-nostro-test-foto-209321/
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I am assuming that your friend bit**ed and moaned about the lack of manual shutter speed and aperture control, default camera app (awful), and in general lack of a manual mode (which is how most pros shoot- manually setting everything).
Disclaimer: I'm a photographer (not the 'I have a DSLR and use AUTO mode and press this thingy' photographer, the 'I have my own successful business' kind) and the lack of manual shutter & aperture is beyond frustrating to me. Sure there are (mostly worthless) apps that give you some control of ISO, WB, burst mode, etc., but without those vital exposure controls (shutter and aperture) to me all smartphone cameras will suck.
I know, I know. It's not a pro level slr... it's a phone...
Of course having stunning locations always helps.
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I am assuming that your friend bit**ed and moaned about the lack of manual shutter speed and aperture control, default camera app (awful), and in general lack of a manual mode (which is how most pros shoot- manually setting everything).
Disclaimer: I'm a photographer (not the 'I have a DSLR and use AUTO mode and press this thingy' photographer, the 'I have my own successful business' kind) and the lack of manual shutter & aperture is beyond frustrating to me. Sure there are (mostly worthless) apps that give you some control of ISO, WB, burst mode, etc., but without those vital exposure controls (shutter and aperture) to me all smartphone cameras will suck.
I know, I know. It's not a pro level slr... it's a phone...
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While I agree with you that the default camera app is incredibly awful and lacks many controls, mobile phones are replacing point and shoot cameras, not DSLRs or micro 4/3. Also, most people use photos nowadays for stupid web shots/social/ready-made-filters etc and not for printing or cropping and zooming for the perfect frame.
I replaced my Cannon P&S since I had the HTC One X two years ago, but no mobile will ever replace my Fuji X-A1
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(which is how most pros shoot- manually setting everything).
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I don't disagree with you on anything but this - most modern SLR pros I know (less than 100, but many more than 10) do NOT shoot all manual. Most may shoot A-priority or S-priority, or use P mode and wheel their way to the desired blend, but only landscape, product or portrait shooters really can practically go all manual, all the time - you need non-moving subjects and somewhat consistent lighting to rock all manual and get a decent return on your shots.
And let's be fair, manual shooting modes do not make better pictures: better photographers make better pictures.
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While I agree with you that the default camera app is incredibly awful and lacks many controls, mobile phones are replacing point and shoot cameras, not DSLRs or micro 4/3. Also, most people use photos nowadays for stupid web shots/social/ready-made-filters etc and not for printing or cropping and zooming for the perfect frame.
I replaced my Cannon P&S since I had the HTC One X two years ago, but no mobile will ever replace my Fuji X-A1
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I know this and agree with you entirely, but I do have an old Polaroid P&S that allows me to set the shutter speed (like from 1/30-1/200, but no aperture control) and that thing is 5+ years old now. But yeah, the need to own a P&S is mostly non-existent with how good smartphone cameras are getting now. It still wouldn't stop me from griping about the things I mentioned if someone gave me a smartphone to take photos with the expectation of delivering pro quality work though (OP was 'I gave my phone to my pro friend to see what he/she could do').
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I don't disagree with you on anything but this - most modern SLR pros I know (less than 100, but many more than 10) do NOT shoot all manual. Most may shoot A-priority or S-priority, or use P mode and wheel their way to the desired blend, but only landscape, product or portrait shooters really can practically go all manual, all the time - you need non-moving subjects and somewhat consistent lighting to rock all manual and get a decent return on your shots.
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The only problem I have with P, A, and S priority modes is the reaction time of the camera to lighting conditions - especially outdoors. I particularly have an issue with P mode as most cameras seem to want a neutral/balanced shutter and aperture - like 1/60 @ f8 - whereas I may want 1/125 or faster @ f4.5-6.3 - and it gets worse outdoors (like wanting 1/160 @ f25 instead of 1/800 @ f8 etc) almost necessitating use of S mode if auto operation is desired. It also seems to take too long sometimes for the camera to read the amount of light and adjust the exposure (shutter speed in A mode or aperture in S mode) correctly. Shooting in manual mode for me is easier and better for me as I can read the light and pick a proper shutter, etc. based on conditions where I am shooting without having to worry about being occasionally slightly too bright (concern for a loss of detail being washed out) or too dark (where softness/pixelation comes into play).
But I suppose how you use your camera will vary on what you are taking pictures of. My gripe with the Nexus 5 is that with adequate lighting indoors and having the flash on auto the camera seems to always want to take pictures with the flash off at 1/10 or 1/20 @ f10 ISO ~400 or something like that, and that's just no good with really anything especially pictures of the kids. Why can't I at least just set the shutter? So many blurry pics... I thought there would be more emphasis on getting the camera experience better on a Nexus phone... the sad thing is that the hardware is actually really good for a phone but sadly the software side is woefully behind :crying:
And let's be fair, manual shooting modes do not make better pictures: better photographers make better pictures.
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Absolutely correct.
I always love these posts,
I have been an on again off again professional photographer for over 10 years mostly in industrial photography.
Even once owned an online photography magazine with pros writing articles from around the world.
My first thought is that it never really has much to do with the camera, its the photographer that stands behind this.
The best example I can give you of this, is the gear snobs that say you can't use mirror-less cameras in the professional setting.
Just grab a pro photographer give them a Nikon V1 or a Olympus OM-D and let them go shooting for a day.
As far as not having P/S/A/M modes, it's a phone....
1 in 100 000 people will even know what that is and about a third of those will actually know how to use it.
If we want to talk camera geek for a moment.
Sensor size is 1/3.2″
Aperture is f2.4 (fixed Aperture)
Max iso is 100 - 800
What does this mean?
Low light shots will still be grainy (Tiny sensor doesn't collect enough light)
The Lens is equivalent to about 28mm which if you have a Canon Rebel or a Nikon DXXXX camera it works out to the 18mm on a kit lens.
So why no manual control?
Well with a fixed aperture of 2.4 what can you change?
Well if you know cameras there is something called the exposure triangle, all this means is aperture, shutter speed, iso have to line up just right for an image to be exposed correctly. In A (aperture priority) you only control aperture and iso, S (shutter priority)you only control shutter and iso, and M you control everything. If you can't change the aperture then you can't use these modes.
Any app that says it gives you control of these things are just simulated.
Every photographers favorite word.... Bokeh!
The blur in the background, how to get it on a phone.
First we have to look at two things the 28mm lens and the tiny sensor. The smaller the sensor does not help at all in this case and nether does the focal length. To get Bokeh with your phone you have to get really really close to your subject almost as if your taking a macro shot.
One more trick for you guys if your still reading this, the camera phone is not ideal for taking portraits.
The reason why is at 28mm you get barrel distortion that pulls the center of the image towards the viewer. You can give people longer than usual noses and get strangeness going on. If your going to take a portrait of a person, instead of taking a close up on the face back up a bit. It will help hide this distortion.
Wow didn't mean for this to come out this long but I am at work, and bored.... lol
Hi all, do you think that camera color reproduction is natural or not ?
ketman5001 said:
Hi all, do you think that camera color reproduction is natural or not ?
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I think that if you use "AUTO" and "AI" especially in full light photos on defenitly no!!!
But that doesn't mean that this is bud or wrong or disadvantage of the camera.
I mean that if you take a exactly the same sunlight photo with pixel 2, S9+, HTC U11+ and P20 pro and show the picture to 100 people that they aren't photographers they will all choose p20 pro photo as the best, clearest, colorful, with more details.
That means that Huawei p20 pro camera set up with "Auto AI" and HDR gives you great photos that after prosses looks more beautiful, sharper & colorful from what they really are.
There are a lot of complains from users especially for over sharpinnes but for me this is what I like most from all others camera set up...
Ok after disabling AI and and choosing normal color mode , any chance to get a photo with real colors (like on pixel 2 xl) ???
Im really hesistating between the p20 pro and the one+6
ketman5001 said:
Ok after disabling AI and and choosing normal color mode , any chance to get a photo with real colors (like on pixel 2 xl) ???
Im really hesistating between the p20 pro and the one+6
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If you disable AI yes you will get more real colors but not as pixel because you have to deactivate HDR but you can't in AUTO shooting... To take The most Natural colors you have to shoot with pro mode with everything auto but you will loose so many settings like zoom and other things
For me Just go with Samsung S9+ and no op6... I think the only camera that come close to p20 pro especially in low light is S9+ and defenitly no op6...
tsiglas said:
If you disable AI yes you will get more real colors but not as pixel because you have to deactivate HDR but you can't in AUTO shooting... To take The most Natural colors you have to shoot with pro mode with everything auto but you will loose so many settings like zoom and other things
For me Just go with Samsung S9+ and no op6... I think the only camera that come close to p20 pro especially in low light is S9+ and defenitly no op6...
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Thanks for your recommendations man
tsiglas said:
If you disable AI yes you will get more real colors but not as pixel because you have to deactivate HDR but you can't in AUTO shooting... To take The most Natural colors you have to shoot with pro mode with everything auto but you will loose so many settings like zoom and other things
For me Just go with Samsung S9+ and no op6... I think the only camera that come close to p20 pro especially in low light is S9+ and defenitly no op6...
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Totally agreed !
Believe it or not, P20 pro shoots terrible photos! Zoom in and see the details they are absolutely terrible. Especially when shooting close-ups the phone performs poorly and the images are blurry. I don't know why the problem occurs but it shouldn't be how so called the worlds best camera would perform. Anyone else has this problem?
Sure. But it looks nice on the phone display. This is what people want.
all the pugs said:
Sure. But it looks nice on the phone display. This is what people want.
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but why is it even worse than my old huawei p8 lite.
I don‘t know. I also wonder. For me, zoom is not usable, and I only use pro mode, because it processes the images differently. Auto, night and hdr mode are currently just outputting bad, blurry and oversharpened images. Hoping for a firmware fix but I often read that other users like the look, so it‘s probably how huawei wants them to look.
Jeph gonna Steph said:
Believe it or not, P20 pro shoots terrible photos! Zoom in and see the details they are absolutely terrible. Especially when shooting close-ups the phone performs poorly and the images are blurry. I don't know why the problem occurs but it shouldn't be how so called the worlds best camera would perform. Anyone else has this problem?
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no problem here (Macro)
Upload macro photo pls(Untouched original files /original size)
Ty
I noticed that the zoom sensor isn't always stabilized: in low light and in close up shots it loses his stabilization, thus it produces awful results. Few days ago I took a picture of a little cat with 3x zoom, in a very low light scenario. This is the result I got (see attachment).
I also have attached a video where you can clearly see the stabilized zoom lense kicking in, and how shaky the image is when the stabilization goes off (focus on how the images "stretches" when I zoom to my little Wi-Fi antenna and to my mouse).
https://photos.app.goo.gl/AJiWNjdbFyMj3UeKA
Another quick comparison (attachments):
3x Without Stabilization (closer to subject) vs 5x With Stabilization (Farther)
Same light conditions, I just moved farther and closer to reach the distance needed to lose stabilization.
I think our zoom lense is intended to work just with far objects and not to take closer macro shots.
solefero69 said:
Another quick comparison (attachments):
3x Without Stabilization (closer to subject) vs 5x With Stabilization (Farther)
Same light conditions, I just moved farther and closer to reach the distance needed to lose stabilization.
I think our zoom lense is intended to work just with far objects and not to take closer macro shots.
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Mate! yes!
When capture close photo with 3x zoom not the TELE lense working .!!!Regular lense with DIGITAL zoom
Tele lense useless for macro shots! Minimum distance 1, 1.5 meter need.
Your absolutly right!
kabirjedi said:
Mate! yes!
When capture close photo with 3x zoom not the TELE lense working .!!!Regular lense with DIGITAL zoom
Tele lense useless for macro shots! Minimum distance 1, 1.5 meter need.
Your absolutly right!
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I roughly measured the distance: it's about 50-60cm. Getting farther from this with good light conditions will enable Stabilized Zoom Lens. In low light scenario, stabilization doesn't work at any distance for me.
Jeph gonna Steph said:
Believe it or not, P20 pro shoots terrible photos!
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I agree! Especially in scenes with high contrast (landscapes in bright sunlight...) 1. dark surfaces (mostly shadows) turn into deep black (no more structures...) and 2. all details lost when you zoom into the picture (And no, i am not a pixelpeeper, but pls compare the 100%-View with another flagship...).
Intelligent Auto-HDR has to come, like in iOS or Samsungs Galaxys...
I also agree with the statement, these p20 pro pictures were made for good looking at the small display, not more!
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I agree! Especially in scenes with high contrast (landscapes in bright sunlight...) 1. dark surfaces (mostly shadows) turn into deep black (no more structures...) and 2. all details lost when you zoom into the picture (And no, i am not a pixelpeeper, but pls compare the 100%-View with another flagship...).
Intelligent Auto-HDR has to come, like in iOS or Samsungs Galaxys...
I also agree with the statement, these p20 pro pictures were made for good looking at the small display, not more!
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Mate too much,,,
One of the best camera yet.
Thsi is auto with ai and ai off
Imigine pro mode...
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1IExHyzoJMEEjiQfe36m1r82PEEPNLCK9
https://drive.google.com/open?id=17WkXYeaM48DrOc1RXsVWjid9Hp_IcJuk
no camera problems here
3x Zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
5x Zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
crop from 40MP no Zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
no zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
3x zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
5x zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
10x zoom by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
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I agree! Especially in scenes with high contrast (landscapes in bright sunlight...) 1. dark surfaces (mostly shadows) turn into deep black (no more structures...) and 2. all details lost when you zoom into the picture (And no, i am not a pixelpeeper, but pls compare the 100%-View with another flagship...).
Intelligent Auto-HDR has to come, like in iOS or Samsungs Galaxys...
I also agree with the statement, these p20 pro pictures were made for good looking at the small display, not more!
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I'm sorry but that's not totally correct. When AI is turned on, it automatically enables HDR when needed and is surprisingly good.
All shot and edited on P20 Pro. I love it.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
I think you may be the problem with your photos.
1st is 3x lens
2nd is 5x hybrid further away.
The 3x is clearly better.
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3x
5x
10x
2018-06-19_09-22-23 by Maik Reifschneider, auf Flickr
Obviously there are shortcomings with the zoom which users should be aware of when using it. The big one is the aperture which if i remember correctly is only f/2,4 or something like that. A big difference from the other lenses as it let's in a lot less light to the sensor. It also answers the questions why it performs poorly when the light disappears. Use zoom only when you have enough light to get a good shot, if the light is poor shoot at 40mpix shot and then crop it in post.
I'm having no big issues with the zoom myself as i only use it in good daylight situations and i avoid the 5x zoom since it looks way to artificially enhanced. Just crop into a 1x or 3x shot is enough.
I do wish Huawei toned down on sharpening and noise reduction as it would improve detail rendering to a much greater degree. A little sensor noise is not a bad thing, it gives photos a bit more character and personality.
/ Magnus
Magnus3D said:
Obviously there are shortcomings with the zoom which users should be aware of when using it. The big one is the aperture which if i remember correctly is only f/2,4 or something like that. A big difference from the other lenses as it let's in a lot less light to the sensor. It also answers the questions why it performs poorly when the light disappears. Use zoom only when you have enough light to get a good shot, if the light is poor shoot at 40mpix shot and then crop it in post.
I'm having no big issues with the zoom myself as i only use it in good daylight situations and i avoid the 5x zoom since it looks way to artificially enhanced. Just crop into a 1x or 3x shot is enough.
I do wish Huawei toned down on sharpening and noise reduction as it would improve detail rendering to a much greater degree. A little sensor noise is not a bad thing, it gives photos a bit more character and personality.
/ Magnus
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Totally agree with you
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I'm sorry but that's not totally correct. When AI is turned on, it automatically enables HDR when needed and is surprisingly good.
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In auto mode HDR is also used automatically when deemed appropriate with AI turned off. The only way to disable auto HDR is to use pro mode (and likely some of the other modes, but they are obviously more specialized).
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I do wish Huawei toned down on sharpening and noise reduction as it would improve detail rendering to a much greater degree. A little sensor noise is not a bad thing, it gives photos a bit more character and personality.
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Absolutely +1!
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In auto mode HDR is also used automatically when deemed appropriate with AI turned off. The only way to disable auto HDR is to use pro mode (and likely some of the other modes, but they are obviously more specialized).
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Sorry you both(solofero & MikeMTS)! It may be right that HDR comes with Auto (with AI or w/o AI doesn´t matter)... But that intelligence when HDR turns on is crappy, most pics I wish they had HDR comes without it. So I have to turn on HDR manually for most situations...
Hello!
When there is a yellow warm street lighting at night, the camera makes very yellow images, for example - the sidewalk color is grey but on the phone screen and on the photo taken the images are super yellow. My phone camera on standard colors, i tried to take photos on auto mode and on night mode- results are same. Can you please confirm if your phone does the same?
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Hello!
When there is a yellow warm street lighting at night, the camera makes very yellow images, for example - the sidewalk color is grey but on the phone screen and on the photo taken the images are super yellow. My phone camera on standard colors, i tried to take photos on auto mode and on night mode- results are same. Can you please confirm if your phone does the same?
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i can confirm, some night shots with yellow lightning makes not good pictures. overall im little disapointed to this p30 pro camera.. i had mi9 before this and im thinking back to that.
Vihru said:
i can confirm, some night shots with yellow lightning makes not good pictures. overall im little disapointed to this p30 pro camera.. i had mi9 before this and im thinking back to that.
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The camera is great except this condition when the lighting is yellow. I tried on pro with 2800 white balance - it is the lowest, but it is still yellow.
Confirm. Also, in the room when illuminated by fluorescent lights, the colors also go crazy.
Those types of light sources are challenging to measure the correct white balance of because their frequency updates vary a lot. Most of them will look yellow because that's the colour they emit at night. It's not really a bug but a choice each developer makes how they will meter those types of light sources. You can easily compensate for the default measurement by shooting in Pro mode and setting your own white balance value or even your own Kelvin value.
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Magnus3D said:
Those types of light sources are challenging to measure the correct white balance of because their frequency updates vary a lot. Most of them will look yellow because that's the colour they emit at night. It's not really a bug but a choice each developer makes how they will meter those types of light sources. You can easily compensate for the default measurement by shooting in Pro mode and setting your own white balance value or even your own Kelvin value.
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ו tried it. The lowest is 2800. It is still very yellow.
on p30 the same problem with street lighting
For me white is white
White even if the corridor light on the right is a little yellowish with human eyes
I am making war to this phone for this ****ty yellowish tint on every photos made after sunset with street light, or even inside home with some light. I regret to not buy OnePlus again...
Taking same shot with OnePlus 3t (3yo phone) give the right color output. I can't believe that Huawei are not able to adjust and calibrate this sensor in a better way. Camera phone? Absolutely not... Not to mention the photo quality of wide angle when light isn't perfect, noise everywhere.
I hope will get better with Emui 10/Android 10
Sometimes it doesn't even get better with editing. It's ridiculous, I'm very disappointed.if you are lucky you can recover 70% of the shot losing times with editing... When I pass to OnePlus 3t (even if it's not a camera phone) I almost stop using Photoshop, now... I'm using too much.
Honestly I really don't understand why 97% of reviews doesn't analyze and report this problem.
Very very strange or maybe you are having a hardware issue.
See what I took in out of the pocket conditions.
P30 series using RYYB sensor in main camera for collect 40% more light while other phone+camera using RGGB (basic primary colours).
so yeah, It's best for low light but you got yellow tint +warm color(red orange yellow) shift instead. I saw Huawei try to fixed it since 9.1.0.12x by software process but they can't
btw, They try again on Mate30 by put +UWA(RGGB) same pixel size at main cam(RYYB) (for color comparable on something? i'm not sure) while P30 main cam had different pixel size to UWA. but Mate30 can't take macro picture cause that bigger pixel.
look at this video for color shift problem
like China flag, flower, whatever that have red-orange-yellow color
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZUCTRDuMEA
or this at 1.21 . Red color's chair turn into orange
+creepy penguin artifact at 8.13
https://youtu.be/Plst3HLrs4Y?t=81
chrisftlse said:
Very very strange or maybe you are having a hardware issue.
See what I took in out of the pocket conditions.
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Not always, but I notice that raising iso get worse. Honestly I think that software can help, expecially with AI.
I don't know the condition of the photos you posted but it's good
Just for saying, the 16:9 shot is made by OnePlus 3t gcam Nightsight (3yo phone), the 4:3 is made by P30 Pro.
Yellow tint corrected by post-editing, but just look at the shot, I really like more the OnePlus with gcam... A 700€ flagship camera phone wanted by older (not camera phone) phone? Disappointed...
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Just for saying, the 16:9 shot is made by OnePlus 3t gcam Nightsight (3yo phone), the 4:3 is made by P30 Pro.
Yellow tint corrected by post-editing, but just look at the shot, I really like more the OnePlus with gcam... A 700€ flagship camera phone wanted by older (not camera phone) phone? Disappointed...
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AFAIK, if you take photos with some warm light (yellow, red..) as a background light (dominant light), the overall result will be turned into yellow tone photos. When I looked at your photos, I saw that the buildings, streets, in where you are living, are always covered by a warm color. That's why the algorithms of P30 pro will cause this issue. This is also an explanation for the photos a guy posted above without any problems.
P/S: Did the latest update (emui 10) fix this problem?
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Sometimes it doesn't even get better with editing. It's ridiculous, I'm very disappointed.if you are lucky you can recover 70% of the shot losing times with editing... When I pass to OnePlus 3t (even if it's not a camera phone) I almost stop using Photoshop, now... I'm using too much.
Honestly I really don't understand why 97% of reviews doesn't analyze and report this problem.
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i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
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AFAIK, if you take photos with some warm light (yellow, red..) as a background light (dominant light), the overall result will be turned into yellow tone photos. When I looked at your photos, I saw that the buildings, streets, in where you are living, are always covered by a warm color. That's why the algorithms of P30 pro will cause this issue. This is also an explanation for the photos a guy posted above without any problems.
P/S: Did the latest update (emui 10) fix this problem?
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I know but a 1000€ cameraphone can't do this. Yes the problem Is still here.
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OldDroid said:
i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
Regards
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Yes, that Is what I thinks so, that Is why I'm mad ti Huawei. I can't belive that with lightroom in postproduction on JPEG file you can almost fix the Yellow tint, and the software Is not able ti do It himself, expecially with all the hype on AI. Is this AI so stupid?
Terminator Will kill me first ahahahaha
OldDroid said:
i wouldn't call this an issue at all.. this could be fixed by an software update, since its the hardware in the phone, a different sensor which captures way more yellow details than other phones, but thats a good thing, because yellow emits way more light, and thats why the p30 pro is able to produce soo good low light shots!
i don't mind lowering the yellow saturation through lightroom, because the cam simply gives you beautiful shots with good detail, even more than you see through your regular eyes at night. Go buy another phone of you are more happy with the shots they produce instead of sh**storming about the camera
Regards
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I am now reading the second part of the message that I miss. Dear fanboy, if you are happy to have spent 1000€ for a smartphone sold as a cameraphone that has serious difficulties in the color management good for you. Sincerely coming from oneplus 3t (an old phone and never been a cameraphone) I am disappointed in some conditions since the 3t with gcam is better. Look at the mate 30 pro, same sensor way better job... I repeat if you are happy to often have a yellow tint and have to manually retouch the photos, be happy and be the champion of Huawei justice elsewhere. I can't afford to buy another phone 3 months after buying this since it has already lost € 250 from the amount I paid for it. Greetings and happy new year.
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I am now reading the second part of the message that I miss. Dear fanboy, if you are happy to have spent 1000€ for a smartphone sold as a cameraphone that has serious difficulties in the color management good for you. Sincerely coming from oneplus 3t (an old phone and never been a cameraphone) I am disappointed in some conditions since the 3t with gcam is better. Look at the mate 30 pro, same sensor way better job... I repeat if you are happy to often have a yellow tint and have to manually retouch the photos, be happy and be the champion of Huawei justice elsewhere. I can't afford to buy another phone 3 months after buying this since it has already lost € 250 from the amount I paid for it. Greetings and happy new year.
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Dear oneplus fanboy,
i don't actually carey since i have my own opinion, all op phones are struggeling to achieve any kind of similar zoom, picture quality and night pictures. If you are not happy about the yellow tint, fine, i can live with that little postprocessing "problem". Go rage about that elsewhere, i'm more than happy what the phone offers, and that matters - i had multiple phones, from oneplus to samsung, no way i go back. I'm glad to say i spend 700€ for my P30 Pro, and i do not regret a single thing - if you however feel it was a mistake, then be happy with your Oneplus 3T and stop whining about your "loss"
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