Question How would you all rate the ergonomics of this phone? - ASUS ZenFone 8

Pretty straightforward from the title. I've been using an XZ2 compact. I got my dad a pixel 4a recently and when I finished setting up, finally getting to hold my XZ2c, I realized that the pixel 4a was incredibly worse to hold. Not even a screen size thing. So how does it feel to hold and operate the zenfone 8? Any comparisons to the pixel 4a or XZ2c?

Not sure this is relevant for you but I'm coming from Samsung S9+ and its (zf8) way better. I used to get pains in my wrist and arm after holding the S9+ one handed, with the ZF8 id does not happen. I am also able to use it one handed using my left hand - also really great.
Compared to my wife Samsung s10e - I also feel it "holding" slightly better (even tough its ~20 Grams heavier) du to it being thicker I think

hirshr said:
Not sure this is relevant for you but I'm coming from Samsung S9+ and its (zf8) way better. I used to get pains in my wrist and arm after holding the S9+ one handed, with the ZF8 id does not happen. I am also able to use it one handed using my left hand - also really great.
Compared to my wife Samsung s10e - I also feel it "holding" slightly better (even tough its ~20 Grams heavier) du to it being thicker I think
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Not the most relevant, but it's still valuable information. Thanks

Sony has that trend where it makes screens less wider for you to be able to hold better.
Zenfone's screen is a bit like middleground between a Sony device and a regular Samsung or Iphone, probably a pixel 4a too. It is very comfortable to hold and reach most of the screen with one hand. My previous phone, the Oppo Find 7 (basically Oneplus One), had a 5.5 inch screen and it is wider, even more so if we compare with bezels.
For its lower screen size, it is also slightly thicker than a Samsung/Iphone. It feels very compact for having a snapdragon 888 with 5g support packed inside.
Glass back is very slippery, I dont like it naked for that reason. The included case does not make it oversized at all and has perfect grip.

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Sony has that trend where it makes screens less wider for you to be able to hold better.
Zenfone's screen is a bit like middleground between a Sony device and a regular Samsung or Iphone, probably a pixel 4a too. It is very comfortable to hold and reach most of the screen with one hand. My previous phone, the Oppo Find 7 (basically Oneplus One), had a 5.5 inch screen and it is wider, even more so if we compare with bezels.
For its lower screen size, it is also slightly thicker than a Samsung/Iphone. It feels very compact for having a snapdragon 888 with 5g support packed inside.
Glass back is very slippery, I dont like it naked for that reason. The included case does not make it oversized at all and has perfect grip.
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Sony devices are also less rounded that probably make for a better grip, Zenfone 8 not so much

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Considering trading my note 8 for an S8 plus

I loved my note 7 (nice rounded edges samsung oem screen protector etc) This phone just feels ...well HUGE... in pocket as well as in hand... I am realizing im not using the spen at all really (other than to send sparkly messages to my wife) since i got my ipad pro and pencil for sketching. For some reason this thing feels immense in my front pocket and heavy.I read at night and holding this phone can be cumbersome at best.. I love the screen and playing games on it but for pretty much everything else its not what i expected. I went to best buy and held both phones at the same time and the s8+ feels so much better in hand with only a .1 in screen difference (i cannot even notice) Am i crazy for exchanging it for a S8+?
ps i like the dual camera live focus thing but for me personally its not that important. 99% of my phone pics are point and shoot and share to a friend or social media..
Really, this is a decision up to you. No one here can tell you what phone you want. But in my opinion, if you don't care for the S-Pen, the better screen, and the dual cameras, then you would be both happier and better off financially if you get the S8+ instead. The S8+ is practically the same phone if you remove those features from the Note 8. The processor is the same and Samsung will support both phones with updates for the same length of time.
Yes, we all have a different preference Good luck finding what you want!
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I'm posting from my S8 plus right now as my n8 is on the charger hands down I love my Note 8 so much more but then again I like bigger phones the S8 plus just seems so tiny compared
There's not much difference besides the ergonomics. The s8 plus feels good in the hand and less blocky. I wouldn't do it.
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furfmonkey said:
I loved my note 7 (nice rounded edges samsung oem screen protector etc) This phone just feels ...well HUGE... in pocket as well as in hand... I am realizing im not using the spen at all really (other than to send sparkly messages to my wife) since i got my ipad pro and pencil for sketching. For some reason this thing feels immense in my front pocket and heavy.I read at night and holding this phone can be cumbersome at best.. I love the screen and playing games on it but for pretty much everything else its not what i expected. I went to best buy and held both phones at the same time and the s8+ feels so much better in hand with only a .1 in screen difference (i cannot even notice) Am i crazy for exchanging it for a S8+?
ps i like the dual camera live focus thing but for me personally its not that important. 99% of my phone pics are point and shoot and share to a friend or social media..
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Nothing worse than buyers remorse. So sorry to learn you are not enjoying your Note 8. Odd having enjoyed the Note 7? The Note 8 improves on all the Note 7 had, then some.
I do hope you enjoy the S8+ it's a superb phone, I moved sideways from it to buy the Note 8 as I want and use the S-pen. Had I not wanted the S-pen I would have still sold the S8+ and bought the LG V30 as next on my list of prioritise is music and the LG excels in that arena.
Let us know how you get on. :good:
Ryland
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I'm posting from my S8 plus right now as my n8 is on the charger hands down I love my Note 8 so much more but then again I like bigger phones the S8 plus just seems so tiny compared
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I got a Note8 to replace a S8+. The Note8's for want of a better word beefier. I like the corners of the display squared; there's more usable space. And it has S Pen which I've missed since the Note7 debacle. My S8+ was a UK Exynos and my Note8 is a S-835 unlocked U.S. phone because of the $425 Note7 discount. They perform the same and even battery life is the same even though the Note8's battery is smaller. Side by side I like the colors and brightness of the Note8's display better. And my S8+ was one of the few without display issues.
To each their own.
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I got a Note8 to replace a S8+. The Note8's for want of a better word beefier. I like the corners of the display squared; there's more usable space. And it has S Pen which I've missed since the Note7 debacle. My S8+ was a UK Exynos and my Note8 is a S-835 unlocked U.S. phone because of the $425 Note7 discount. They perform the same and even battery life is the same even though the Note8's battery is smaller. Side by side I like the colors and brightness of the Note8's display better. And my S8+ was one of the few without display issues.
To each their own.
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Yeah my S8 plus was nothing but something to tide me over until the Note 8
It's pretty much become my Kodi box
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Yeah my S8 plus was nothing but something to tide me over until the Note 8
It's pretty much become my Kodi box
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Same here. :highfive:
Ryland
If this is what you want, don't let anybody persuade you otherwise, just don't let the door hit you on the way out. I couldn't wait to give my S8 to my wife and get N8, but I use s-pen all the time and I'm surprised you going for S8+, instead of S8, since as you said the difference is small, but whatever makes you happy, it makes you happy.
pete4k said:
If this is what you want, don't let anybody persuade you otherwise, just don't let the door hit you on the way out. I couldn't wait to give my S8 to my wife and get N8, but I use s-pen all the time and I'm surprised you going for S8+, instead of S8, since as you said the difference is small, but whatever makes you happy, it makes you happy.
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i actually considered the s8 over the s8 plus but it seems much more narrow or improperly proportioned compared to the s8 plus if that makes sense.. my main grip is the in hand and in pocket feeling the squared off note 8 feels compared to the much more rounded s8 plus it feels much more ergonomic in my hands.. i barely used the spen in my note 4 and simply got it because at the time it was the largest screen offered in a sammy device.. i guess at some point bigger isnt always better..
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Yeah my S8 plus was nothing but something to tide me over until the Note 8
It's pretty much become my Kodi box
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Me also but i was annoyed they didnt move the fingerprint reader which put me off it some now the whole issue with the OEM unlock option missing on some exynos devices.
Not looking like I will bother with it but I did play around with a note 8 and had my s8+ with me and like the way the note felt in hand better.
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pete4k said:
If this is what you want, don't let anybody persuade you otherwise, just don't let the door hit you on the way out. I couldn't wait to give my S8 to my wife and get N8, but I use s-pen all the time and I'm surprised you going for S8+, instead of S8, since as you said the difference is small, but whatever makes you happy, it makes you happy.
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I got my s8 plus today and i couldn't be happier it's lighter feels so much better in front pocket and just fits me perfectly. I'm so happy i switched
furfmonkey said:
I got my s8 plus today and i couldn't be happier it's lighter feels so much better in front pocket and just fits me perfectly. I'm so happy i switched
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I've got both (well wife has the S8 plus). I really can't tell a difference in size and I have small hands...
As long as you are happy.
Yep, aside from the Note being a bit (approx 0.7cm) longer than the note, it is just as wide. The note 8 has more square corners too but overall the width is identical...
I also have both.
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I got my s8 plus today and i couldn't be happier it's lighter feels so much better in front pocket and just fits me perfectly. I'm so happy i switched
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THAT is what counts. What you like and enjoy. :good:
Well done. Ryland.
I would of stayed with note 8 more ram and way better standby time than s8+
I came from my s8+ which I absolutely loved but I switched carriers and figured I'd try a different phone, first week I wanted to March back to store room exchange for s8+ as the note 8 is heavier and tad thicker and screen is more blocky, and now a week later I have to admit I do love the note, the spen is really useful for me at work as I need clients to sign my phone when making transactions, battery life isn't as beast as the s8+ as expected, but isn't much behind either, both phones are all day battery, so no complaints there but I feel note 8 has more screen real estate simply from the corners being less rounded, I'm a happy camper
I ended up going back to the note 8 !! Even with a case on the s8 plus i was getting false registers on the sides and corners with my big meaty hands... Is will be here Monday. Also in gaming grip or watching movies there note is far superior.. i feel dumb returning it but hey, it was a learning experience and at least i ended up with the better phone in the end
Yeah, for sure if you're not regularly using your S-Pen and you're not gonna miss the dual cameras or the extra bit of RAM the S8 Plus is a reasonably solid alternative. Like others have said here, the Note series is no longer the only device with a large OLED screen. Hell, now you'll have the LG V30 to choose from if you're switching away from the Note 8 as that's also OLED (and flat).
The feel between these two phones, aesthetically with the body's frame, for sure, feel different. I still have my S8 Plus to kick around and I can feel how well it rest much easier in the hand than my Note 8. I'm just partial to the more squared off corners of the Note 8's screen. Something about that more sharper edge in the corners also makes it feel like a thinner phone than the S8 Plus. I know, that sounds weird but that's what I feel when I'm holding both of them. The screen, IMO, needs to be as sharp in the corners as possible because I find that to be more sleek and mature in design.
At least we have some brilliant choices to pick from today. We're pretty spoiled in the modern phone market.
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I ended up going back to the note 8 !! Even with a case on the s8 plus i was getting false registers on the sides and corners with my big meaty hands... Is will be here Monday. Also in gaming grip or watching movies there note is far superior.. i feel dumb returning it but hey, it was a learning experience and at least i ended up with the better phone in the end
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LOL! I was watching something on TV while I was typing my previous reply so I took a while to finish what I was typing and I didn't see this until I finally hit "submit". You're back on the N8, that's cool. Like you said, you learned what you really wanted so that's good. Enjoy your new phone when it arrives!

Note 5 vs Q Stylus

Note 4 just died. It was OK: stylus is great; performance and battery life poor compared to previous Lumia 1520. Thinking of replacing with a Note 5 or a Q Stylus. Camera quality is not important.
Note 5 pros:
Build quality looks good.
Note 5 cons:
Very hard to find a standard 64GB model (920C I think). Easy to find carrier-modded models (like 920A) which are not guaranteed to have basic features like VoLTE.
No microSD support.
Doesn't have the latest android version, and won't get future android versions.
Q Stylus pros:
More power efficient than Note 5.
Q Stylus cons:
Rounded corners, but less of a problem since the screen is elongated so you can fit a good size 16:9 rectangle inside.
Q Stylus unknowns:
Display quality (contrast, color fidelity) unknown.
Assuming subpixel rendering isn't supported (commonly not on Android), text on a 1080p screen will not be sharp.
I am assuming performance of the two devices will be similar.
Still undecided. Anything I am missing? Thanks.
Note8 prices have are falling very quickle, even more now that the Note9 is real. Invest a little more in a newer phone.
I don't want the curved screen edges of later Samsung phones. They distort images and brightnesses and reflections and I would want therefore to switch the edges off. On the Note 8 that would make an already too narrow screen even narrower.

is Note 9 is bulky in your hand ?

i was in confusion to buy note 9 or oneplus 6t , when hold n9 in hand it feels heavy , i just want to know the experience of n9 users that are you able to hold and use it for long time ?
You get used to the size and feel of the phone where others will feel super light. It's like if you drove a sedan all your life then you get a truck it will feel huge. But eventually you adapt to the change.
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i was in confusion to buy note 9 or oneplus 6t , when hold n9 in hand it feels heavy , i just want to know the experience of n9 users that are you able to hold and use it for long time ?
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daniel4653 said:
You get used to the size and feel of the phone where others will feel super light. It's like if you drove a sedan all your life then you get a truck it will feel huge. But eventually you adapt to the change.
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Thanks for the answer, you encouraged me to buy note 9 . i see you have 6t also which one you like most ?
I took my S5 and N9 in each hand, closed my eyes, and started "feeling" the differences. Swapped them between hands and continued. I have to say, if I would not see them, or feel the textures or sides (or checked their length or weight balance differences), I would not be able to tell quickly which one is which. In my hands, Note 9 feels no bulkier than S5.
I read news with N9 during local train trips (about 15 minutes), which are about the longest continuous activities I do with phones (except long calls, which are rare for me). I haven't noticed any bulkiness or hand getting tired in that (relatively) short amount of time.
When it comes to pockets, N9's significantly longer length does matter. S5 can fit fine in my jeans front pocket (though it does create a hole on one spot over time), N9 does not fit in the same orientation/properly. So, N9 is bulkier in that sense. Though I wouldn't put N9 in front pocket even if it fit, as those pockets seems to collect "hard" dust over time (or something), leading to surface wear on the corners of the phone.
It's a bit heavy, but in a good way. It's more tall than bulky.
At times I have a bit of trouble reaching things, but not unacceptably. I am 5'8" and my hand from wrist to tip of middle finger is approximately 7.5"
The phone is a little heavy feeling when not in a case and very "slippery". I've got an "Otterbox like" hybrid case and love it and I've got medium hands......
Having gone two and a half days on a 90% charge I'll live with it. Not to mention 512+256 and really good mountain cell signal
alwynjoshy said:
i was in confusion to buy note 9 or oneplus 6t , when hold n9 in hand it feels heavy , i just want to know the experience of n9 users that are you able to hold and use it for long time ?
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My previous device was an LG V20 so the Note 9 does not feel too heavy to me at all. It has a nice quality feel to it and feels "just right" in my hand.
Not bulky. It's relatively thin/narrow, and it feels very premium. It's a little bit tall, slippery and on the heavy side though.
That's something I had to adjust to when I switched from a Pixel 2 XL (at first, my little finger would hurt after using the phone for a prolonged period of time. The Pixel 2 XL is 26 grams lighter and the paint finish helps to have a better grip).
Even if the Note 9 looks great, my advice would be to get a good case. It feels like (and it is) a luxury phone. Better protect it than be sorry later
alwynjoshy said:
i was in confusion to buy note 9 or oneplus 6t , when hold n9 in hand it feels heavy , i just want to know the experience of n9 users that are you able to hold and use it for long time ?
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It's a lot more comfortable than the s7e that I got and used for two years (3m for the note 9) - even one hand. I had even hand pain sometimes from the s7e after extensive use, something I never got on my note 9. Both naked, never used a case/screen protector on both.
No problem. I actually have the 1+6
I had the 1+6t but didn't like the in display fingerprint scanner. The fact that you have to turn on the screen for the scanner to work seems odd when I'd rather have on on the back of the phone which is more reliable. But i equally enjoy my 1+6 because it's such a smooth phone, lightweight, great looks, and camera is pretty good on it. Battery is about 1hr SOT less than the Note 9.
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Thanks for the answer, you encouraged me to buy note 9 . i see you have 6t also which one you like most ?
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Maybe some time in the gym is in order for you all. ?
It IS heavier than say an S9+, but I don't consider it heavy. I'm on my phone all day, and I never even think about the weight of it. Like others said, it's slippery without a case and pretty tall, so it can make one-handed operation awkward. More than anything, this trend of thin phones and no side bezel makes using it without a case difficult. There's nothing to really hold on to and it's slick, so it's easy to drop.
That's why I put it in a cheap clear TPU case and use it that way. Protects against scratches and light drops, but adds little to no bulk.
I had been using OP6 prior to this, still have it. First day I felt this was heavier and difficult / awkward to handle (considering my last note was note 4), was just a matter of a day and I'm pretty comfortable with it. Used it with the cover that came in the box first couple days, then changed too neo hybrid (makes it more bulky) but in a good way (feels sturdy).
Loving the great battery life on the Note 9 compared to OP6. Used to get between 4 to 6 hours of screen time on OP6. With Note 9, I average around 1 hr per 10 percent of battery (in case the standby times aren't too long) otherwise you can expect 10 to 20 percent going towards a day of standby + 8 hours of screen on. Do note, I'm a heavy user with dozen apps running thr background, Slack, Asana, Aqua mail (for emails), Whatsapp & Facebook.
It's a great phone overall, other than the fact it was difficult getting used to N9 being slightly less responsive than the OP6 (with Android Pie).
So far, so good!
I don't think it is that bulky. I came from Essential phone and weight wise it is just a little heavier, but not by much. it is of course much much longer.
I still carry it in my front pocket.
Not as big as you expect it to be, far more manageable than say an iPhone X's max for example.
I'll second the lack of responsiveness Vs the OP6. The Note feels more premium but the OP just flies in the comparison.
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Note 9 feels tall, narrow, top heavy, dense and slippery. The 6T feels wider, lighter, also slippery.
One thing for sure, my 6T does *everything* faster but Note 9 just does things better. Higher resolution, bigger battery, wireless charging , headphone jack, stylus, and a few others.
To me, Note 9 is the better phone without considering price. Performance for the price, much better value from OnePlus and I think that's their goal.
With a heavy heart, I finally sold the OP6 so I could dedicate myself to Note 9. First few hours post the transaction were tough (I get emotionally attached to mg phones lol), all good now and Note 9 from here on all the way.
I switched to the note 9 from the Huawei Mate 20 X. If anything is bulky that Mate 20 variant is the most bulky. Note 9 now seems perfect sized.
I think it's way too heavy when compared too all previous Note phones. It is the heaviest. That's the reason why I skipped and got a Pixel 3 XL.
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rezapatel said:
With a heavy heart, I finally sold the OP6 so I could dedicate myself to Note 9. First few hours post the transaction were tough (I get emotionally attached to mg phones lol), all good now and Note 9 from here on all the way.
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I actually did the opposite yesterday, I gave back the Note 9 to someone else to test in my team and will keep the 6T for awhile. The fact that Android Auto doesn't work in my car with the Note 9 is a rather big problem (I bought a car with android auto specifically because I love using it). The second reason is the infinity display. Looks absolutely amazing, but I keep accidentally clicking stuff all the time. I seem to do better with a flat display and a slightly smaller/lighter phone.
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I actually did the opposite yesterday, I gave back the Note 9 to someone else to test in my team and will keep the 6T for awhile. The fact that Android Auto doesn't work in my car with the Note 9 is a rather big problem (I bought a car with android auto specifically because I love using it). The second reason is the infinity display. Looks absolutely amazing, but I keep accidentally clicking stuff all the time. I seem to do better with a flat display and a slightly smaller/lighter phone.
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I was in 2 minds until someone bid on the Oneplus - I was so heavy hearted selling the phone that I could have flipped anytime during the transaction haha. Since the decision had valid pros and cons each side, I left it to fate for whichever to fetch my target price. Even though I experienced a little more than usual BT connectivity issues initially with N9 & my car, it's all settled now. Kinda starting to enjoy the phone now, knowing this is the only option lol. Battery life + sound + better vibration + xposed (something still good about O) + good screen seem to reasons enough to not be super whinny. Gluck with your decision!

S10 or S10+?

Even though I have a 6T 6.4" I wouldn't say no for an s10 with 6.1" but the claim that battery is much better on the + is making me think twice.
Anyone has both in exynos and can compare SOT?
Do you feel the single small punch hole of the s10 much more tolerable than the cigar shape dual lens of the s10+?
S10+ will be better.
vegetaleb said:
Even though I have a 6T 6.4" I wouldn't say no for an s10 with 6.1" but the claim that battery is much better on the + is making me think twice.
Anyone has both in exynos and can compare SOT?
Do you feel the single small punch hole of the s10 much more tolerable than the cigar shape dual lens of the s10+?
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Whatever size you like. I looked at both and I liked the S10 better because it was a little smaller. I keep BT, location and wifi on all day on my S10 and usually have between 30 and 40% left when I charge it at bedtime. I'm fine with the small cutout but I don't thing the oval one would bother me either. It looks like the Snapdragon may have a little better battery life so if you're getting the Exynos then your usage may vary. Some people are more anal than others and don't like either cutout so in the end it's what you're looking for in a phone.
S10 is fine if you some extra bucks then go for S10+
So it doesn't bother you to have a bigger "hole" out of nowhere on the s10+? On the s10 I could live with it
I have both and will be selling my ceramic S10 plus. The standard 10 just feels to be the right size and going back to the plus just illustrates how much managing these large phones take, yes you get used to it but there is no doubt that the 10 is easier to use one handed and less of a burden to carry.
The jump from say 5.5 or 5.8 made the burden worthwhile but 6.1" is hardly a small screen and may well be the sweet-spot
YMMV
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I tried both, figured I'd prefer the S10+ because of the battery but even if I'm used to 6.4 inch displays (note 9, 6T), a far prefer the S10's format. It's just a bit less screen but to me, it feels much better in the hand.
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I tried both, figured I'd prefer the S10+ because of the battery but even if I'm used to 6.4 inch displays (note 9, 6T), a far prefer the S10's format. It's just a bit less screen but to me, it feels much better in the hand.
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I have found a thread in xda where people are getting 8h Sot with the s10 after a full reset and no apps restored from backups.
If this is confirmed I would take the s10. My 6t actually gives me 7h sot which is good for a full day, I would certainly get 10h if I do a reset but I am too lazy specially if I will sell it soon
I love the standard s10. It's still plenty of screen real estate, the battery is still amazing.
I did a complete review if you are interested in watching it,
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I have both and will be selling my ceramic S10 plus. The standard 10 just feels to be the right size and going back to the plus just illustrates how much managing these large phones take, yes you get used to it but there is no doubt that the 10 is easier to use one handed and less of a burden to carry.
The jump from say 5.5 or 5.8 made the burden worthwhile but 6.1" is hardly a small screen and may well be the sweet-spot
YMMV
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Yep. S10 feels like a phone and not like a tablet
S10+ FTW!! Forget the rest
Nic2112 said:
I tried both, figured I'd prefer the S10+ because of the battery but even if I'm used to 6.4 inch displays (note 9, 6T), a far prefer the S10's format. It's just a bit less screen but to me, it feels much better in the hand.
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The Note 9 is much bigger (wider) than the 6T. I know what you mean, as the 6T does feel more comfortable in the hand since it is a smaller device. The S10+ has slightly smaller side bezels, so it is marginally less physically wide than the 6T despite having a larger (wider) display.
The 6T has the longest aspect ratio (19:9) while the Note 9 has 18.5:9 and the S10+ has 19:9.
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Even though I have a 6T 6.4" I wouldn't say no for an s10 with 6.1" but the claim that battery is much better on the + is making me think twice.
Anyone has both in exynos and can compare SOT?
Do you feel the single small punch hole of the s10 much more tolerable than the cigar shape dual lens of the s10+?
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Looking only at the diagonal length is misleading owing to the differing aspect ratios. Pythagorean Theorem. This is why diagonal sizes are seemingly so much larger these days despite phones not necessarily becoming much larger. Bezel has been replaced with display with the same phone width, and phones have also started becoming slightly longer.
If you were to only consider the 16:9 portion of these displays, then here's a quick summary for comparison (+/- 0.01" for Rounding). Personally, I wouldn't get the S10 since it's a tad small for me.
S10: 5.34"
S10+: 5.63"
Note 9: 5.69"
OP6T: 5.49"
I don't really like the camera cut-out on the S10/S10+ since it makes the notification bar fairly gigantic. The wider cut-out on the S10+ won't make as much a difference as you might think as the actual placement is more important.
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The Note 9 is much bigger (wider) than the 6T. I know what you mean, as the 6T does feel more comfortable in the hand since it is a smaller device. The S10+ has slightly smaller side bezels, so it is marginally less physically wide than the 6T despite having a larger (wider) display.
The 6T has the longest aspect ratio (19:9) while the Note 9 has 18.5:9 and the S10+ has 19:9.
Looking only at the diagonal length is misleading owing to the differing aspect ratios. Pythagorean Theorem. This is why diagonal sizes are seemingly so much larger these days despite phones not necessarily becoming much larger. Bezel has been replaced with display with the same phone width, and phones have also started becoming slightly longer.
If you were to only consider the 16:9 portion of these displays, then here's a quick summary for comparison (+/- 0.01" for Rounding). Personally, I wouldn't get the S10 since it's a tad small for me.
S10: 5.34"
S10+: 5.63"
Note 9: 5.69"
OP6T: 5.49"
I don't really like the camera cut-out on the S10/S10+ since it makes the notification bar fairly gigantic. The wider cut-out on the S10+ won't make as much a difference as you might think as the actual placement is more important.
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Btw, if you change the fonts size, will it enlarge the statusbar icons too? I can use a phone without glasses if I can make these icons and fonts a bit larger
vegetaleb said:
Btw, if you change the fonts size, will it enlarge the statusbar icons too? I can use a phone without glasses if I can make these icons and fonts a bit larger
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You can always adjust the DPI. I find the default to be way too large, so I do the opposite and reduce it on any device I use. You can also independently adjust the font size if you wish. Between those two settings, you should be able to get the right balance for yourself.

Quality Control Issues

I don't know what everyone else's experience is with quality control but here's mine:
The first X5 Pro I had, I had to return for a replacement because I discovered in low light (dark room) there was a stuck pixel on the screen which was permanently lit green. This isn't acceptable on £1000+ device.
Now, my replacement device feels different in the hand. People will probably think I have OCD, but it looks like the ceramic back is actually somehow a fraction of a millimetre smaller than it should be, therefore the aliminium edges of the device do not blend seamlessly into the ceramic back cover and give that smooth, pebble-like feel. It now feels like I have a sharp edge resting against my palm or fingers when I hold the device.
Most people would probably not notice this but I do.
My wife has the X5 Pro in Black and doesn't have this issue.
I read somewhere about the ceramic milling process means that every since piece of ceramic is unique, but obviously within a certain tolerance, and the backs are matched up with the camera lenses during the production process.
I've attached a picture to try and convey what I am talking about. Unfortunately I don't have a picture of the back of my first device, which felt perfect in the hand.
It looks like there is around 0.5mm gap between the back and the edge of the device.
Would you return your device due to this, especially when you know what it should be like?
Morning chap,
Re the green pixel, I haven't had any and agree is unacceptable.
Re the back. I have a slight edge too but assumed that's how they all were. Doesn't bother me as I have a case around it. You may want to return it if it really is annoying you and you are 100pc sure that the first handset was seamless...(are you sure? Mind tricks?)...but no guarantee a replacement will be any different.
Interested to see how you get on.
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Morning chap,
Re the green pixel, I haven't had any and agree is unacceptable.
Re the back. I have a slight edge too but assumed that's how they all were. Doesn't bother me as I have a case around it. You may want to return it if it really is annoying you and you are 100pc sure that the first handset was seamless...(are you sure? Mind tricks?)...but no guarantee a replacement will be any different.
Interested to see how you get on.
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Haha, yeah, my first thought was mind tricks, but my wife has the black one and it defo doesn't dig into your hand in the same way. Looking at them side by side, the back on her black X5 pro blends seamlessly into the frame whereas mine has an obvious lip.
Yes you are right about a replacement being no guarantee of being better. This is the first phone in 10+ years that I am using without a case because it feels so natural to hold, but when it digs into your hand and you can feel the ridge, it definitely isn't pleasant to hold.
Anyway, phoned the carrier and after a lengthy call with me trying to explain the issue to one of their first line tech support, it's getting replaced by courier tomorrow.
If this was an iPhone there would be threads all over twitter with people going bananas so I don't see how I should need to settle for second best when this phone costs more than most iPhone models bar the 13 pro max!
This is a good review with hi-res images of the sides of the phone, and on which you can see no visible lip (although harder to see on the black model).
Oppo Find X5 Pro Review - Slick smartphone with a Hasselblad camera
Review: The Oppo Find X5 Pro 5G employs 12 GB of RAM, 256 GB of UFS 3.1 memory, a triple camera with two Sony IMX766 sensors, very fast charging and an accurate LTPO AMOLED display.
www.notebookcheck.net
Ha now you got me thinking!
I can't hold this phone without a case, too slippery.
Agree, regardless when you spend a grand and ain't happy you should deal with it, no matter the issue. See if you can put up an image of the Mrs phone
Will do when she gets home
So, got the replacement and it definitely does not have the same issue.
This one is perfect, the back blends seamlessly into the sides.
Pleased you're happy mate. The pix don't make it easy to see the difference if I'm being honest. I'd kick off with Oppo if I were you. 1000 quid phone.

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