Hello, my name is Benjamin, currently a undergraduate student that has gotten very interested in electronics the past couple of months. 21 years of age.
I don't have excessive amounts of money to buy nice toys with or to experiment with, but I was hoping that I could gather wealth and buy an unlocked smart-phone, cheap.
I don't have extensive experience, but I really want to learn from this awesome community. I have been skimming threads and reading, researching and, finally I decided to stop lurking and come out in the clear and introduce myself. I admire the hard work of the seniors, veterans, juniors, semi-pros and other awesome people that think around problems on this board. Thank you already.
I have started hobby-programing python and perl, I have an unreasonable fear of Java, but will hopefully be able to start playing with it if I eventually do get that smart-phone.
So my problem right now is that I don't have a fun little device to play with, could anyone recommend a device that is:
Not crazy expensive
Will be able to connect to Wi-fi network
Will be able to run GV to be used as a VOIP phone
Unlocked and ready to be changed
Easy to access and play around with
Simply, I don't necessarily need it to keep a constant connectivity, just a small computer to toy with.
There are many approaches to the smart-phone idea right now, and your board has been very helpful, I just need a last nudge.
Sorry for the lengthy post, just wanted to introduce myself, and not be lurking anymore. I will try to keep annoying questions to a minimum.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
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cheap smartphone(thats actually worth somthing) translates to hd2 on xda ... they go from $200-220 on ebay , good cond . anything lesser of a price ull only get 600mhz , non-cortex phones(garbage) it has wp7 android ubuntu one day maybe meego for it
Just wondering how all you experienced developers on here started out. I know you have probably been asked many times before but I am genuinely interested.
I am by no means any sort of developer. I first came to this site about two years ago when I first learned of rooting. Prior to that I had no knowledge whatsoever of developing or programming.
However I cant keep off here. Is it something that can be self taught. I would really love to delve into this so that I can start to have a little input into what goes on here and even if its just testing at least I could maybe be of help to someone. I have picked up little bits on how things work but my main question is where would be a good place to start self teaching??? It is becoming somewhat of an interest for me.
Any pointers would be hugely appreciated.
Thanks
If it's apps your interested in then AdamOutler has recently done a great video/article combo which would get you started. Check the portal / youtube channel....
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I suppose anything really just to get a basic understanding to start with. I would love eventually to be able to create/modify custom roms ect, but yeah thanks for the pointer.
hammoliam said:
I suppose anything really just to get a basic understanding to start with. I would love eventually to be able to create/modify custom roms ect, but yeah thanks for the pointer.
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Well for roms, check if your device is supported by Dsixdas kitchen, if so that's a great place to start tinkering...
If you want to really start making changes to things though your going to need to learn to code to some extent...
Read and search, read and search...
Good luck
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If you want a great beginning developer environment, wp7 is the easiest and most user friendly one to dive into.
I taught myself python with old boxed up books from the back rooms of my high school library. Didn't have a computer and did all my work on notebook paper. My first language. So, yeah, you can teach yourself anything.
I'm reading this right now.
http://www.amazon.com/Communications-Electronic-Warfare-Adrian-Graham/dp/0470688718
Has tons of practical applications.
Might get a kick out of what I'm reading right now:
Communications, Radar and Electronic Warfare
Frontiers in Antennas: Next Generation Design and Engineering
Advances in Cryptology 2011
Digital Forensics with Open Source Tools
Philosophy and Simulation: The Emergence of Synthetic Reason
boborone said:
I taught myself python with old boxed up books from the back rooms of my high school library. Didn't have a computer and did all my work on notebook paper. My first language. So, yeah, you can teach yourself anything.
I'm reading this right now.
http://www.amazon.com/Communications-Electronic-Warfare-Adrian-Graham/dp/0470688718
Has tons of practical applications.
Might get a kick out of what I'm reading right now:
Communications, Radar and Electronic Warfare
Frontiers in Antennas: Next Generation Design and Engineering
Advances in Cryptology 2011
Digital Forensics with Open Source Tools
Philosophy and Simulation: The Emergence of Synthetic Reason
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Well i'm done with the list and ready to take over local frequencies with my own propaganda. read, play good music on pirated radio
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Nowhere near an experienced developer, but with a couple of apps and a ROM WIP, the only thing that taught me was xda-tv
Learning to me is just when somebody puts a puzzle in front of you with no clues or guidelines. But you are surrounded by 50k people that you may ask questions (xda).
I just keep trying to solve the puzzle and if I really don't get something I just ask xda.
That's just how I learn. Its how I've always learn. Just dive into it and rip it apart. Think as logically as possible and listen to some cool dub step while doing so for extra learning points.
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I just realized something today, my daughter is going to be an android user for life. We were in the room together and she was on her nabi2 multitasking like a pro. Is it wrong that my 6 year old can work technology better than my wife, who is only 30 and grew up with all types of computers.
Well anyways, to my point, my daughter asked me to teach her how to make an android app. I am more of a hardware guy / tech support, does anyone have any ideas on how I can get her into development when I really haven't a clue? I have no problem reading stuff, but want to get her started quickly. Also my computer, the only fast one in the house, has to run windows for my corporate environment and the ssd is too small for a dual boot as its only 120 gigs.
What are your ideas? It would be nice to start her young, but her laptop is ancient and I can't afford a new one right now. Can I get her building in windows? What should I start reading with her? Any ideas will be appreciated.
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No not at all I have been using tech since I was 3
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So have I, my commodore sx64 was great. I miss the good old days. I gave my daughter her first android phone when she was 2, it as a Motorola back flip. Now she has the old captivate, a nabi2, an old Sony k23 laptop, and a roku box for the TV. My house is drowned in technology and I'm just hoping to further her interest.
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My 1st was a atari 2600 still have it to this day works like new
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You want your 6 year old to learn how to develop android apps?
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Ichigo said:
You want your 6 year old to learn how to develop android apps?
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I guess he want to get her interested in tech/computers early, so she might choose to learn to develop a little later in life. Much like parents who buys musical instruments and stuff like that for their kids when they're young. It's easier to teach them some stuff now than later.
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LordManhattan said:
I guess he want to get her interested in tech/computers early, so she might choose to learn to develop a little later in life. Much like parents who buys musical instruments and stuff like that for their kids when they're young. It's easier to teach them some stuff now than later.
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Oh, I see. It was TL, so I DR...
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Put ubuntu on her laptop, and dont forget to install drivers, its going to run as hell
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And the creepiest thread title ever goes to....
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Edited thread title to not sound so creepy
My daughter has the interest, I just don't have the skill to start her out.
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You could make her watch videos from thenewboston. He has videos on programming in every possible language in the world. You could start with C++ or QBASIC.
P.S. He also has a tutorial series on how to make beer. Giving you a headsup
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You could make her watch videos from thenewboston. He has videos on programming in every possible language in the world. You could start with C++ or QBASIC.
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I don't think a 6 year old could comprehend C++ or Java. It requires... how to put this... I guess common sense. You need to make sense of what the code is going to be doing. Like if you add a button in android, you'll first need to name it and define it's id. Then you'll need to set it's OnClickListener. Then you'll need to reference that button and give it a command, and yadayadayada. It requires a sense of reason. When kids are only 6 they haven't fully developed this sense of reason yet...
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I don't think a 6 year old could comprehend C++ or Java. It requires... how to put this... I guess common sense. You need to make sense of what the code is going to be doing. Like if you add a button in android, you'll first need to name it and define it's id. Then you'll need to set it's OnClickListener. Then you'll need to reference that button and give it a command, and yadayadayada. It requires a sense of reason. When kids are only 6 they haven't fully developed this sense of reason yet...
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I know C++ is a bit too early, but QBASIC is perfect. If not, Scratch would be the answer. It's a programming environment with a GUI. Created by MIT for students learning CS50 (a course they have). I can say that would be the best, cause my mom introduced me to that when I was 7.
Thank you both for the starting points. I am not looking to have her make an app tomorrow, just start learning the basics of programming since she has the interest. I will give both options a try and see what is easier for her.
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Wait, so are we breeding intelligent people(meaning android users) to have babies who should be able to program right out of the womb? I'm all for it.
EDIT: OOOOOOH, nevermind.
I would say that once you learn android development(mainly java), creating a simple app is really easy.
My daughter is 12 she has a cheap cell phone now but for her 13 b-day im getting her the Evo 3d cause she has virgin mobile.. I had that phone and liked it.. so im gonna root it for her and see if she likes it.. She knos all about it now from me always talking about it.. That would be cool if she gets into it
My son can use android already and he is 4. He has a Galaxy vibrant he uses to play apps on and a tablet. But the tablet is vtech so its not android.
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if you want your child to learn development languages,
start off with the ol' basic VB6
let her make a popup screen which never closes
Code:
do
msgbox "test"
loop
then save as .vbs and run ,
My 4 month old daughter can already swipe away an image she doesn't like on my nexus 7 gallery and will quite happily turn spongebob up to max volume or pause it when she is bored
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Hey there! I'm krassygnoll and I've been lurking for a little over a decade. As someone who tends to stay pretty private, I try to not make too much noise online. With that said, after attending some cybersec conferences and working in the business world it came to my attention that I need to socialize a bit more. So, after reading up on how to root my old kindle 3rd gen, I realized I needed to finally make an account to get the right tooling.
In high school iPhones were starting to get popular as well as phones like the original RAZR or Juke. I learned about this site from friends of mine who were trying real hard to theme their phones and brag about free apps they found. I instead spent my time breaking Windows and learning Ubuntu. As a tech enthusiast I tend to get excited and hack on or break anything new that I get my hands on, which lends well to my current goal of developing more secure IOT products (because most are terrible).
With that said, I have a rooted LG V30 I use as my daily driver, but it is starting to get long in the tooth. Looking at the f(x)tec Pro 1-X for a replacement, but trying to hold off for now. I've rooted some Shield TV's, an HTC Desire Eye (old phone), and some other basic phones for friends and family. I couldn't have done any of it without this forum, so thank you all so much.
With all that said, I'm happy to be here and will try to stay out in the sun instead of retreating back under my bridge.
I think I lurked XDA for 3 years before finally joining in on the conversation. Welcome!
Android enthusiast. Been around since the internet came into existence. Used to play DOS PC games and spent my childhood on the Nintendo systems until I built my first PC.
Recently put a JY-UQ138N4G-H Joying Android 10 stereo head unit in my vehicle and I'm having issues with it. Worked great for 30 days, but now locks up and freezes so I'll be hitting the search and forums trying to find solutions. I think it's a cooling problem. I put two 50mm heatsinks on it but still having issues.
I usually find XDA info posted across Reddit so I figured better to join late than never and explore what all XDA has to offer.
D0raThaDestroya said:
Android enthusiast. Been around since the internet came into existence. Used to play DOS PC games and spent my childhood on the Nintendo systems until I built my first PC.
Recently put a JY-UQ138N4G-H Joying Android 10 stereo head unit in my vehicle and I'm having issues with it. Worked great for 30 days, but now locks up and freezes so I'll be hitting the search and forums trying to find solutions. I think it's a cooling problem. I put two 50mm heatsinks on it but still having issues.
I usually find XDA info posted across Reddit so I figured better to join late than never and explore what all XDA has to offer.
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Nice intro, welcome aboard!