Question Zenfone 8 in North America - ASUS ZenFone 8

You can now buy the Zenfone 8 in U.S:
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Awesome! I am thinking about buying it and giving it a shot over my OnePlus 9.

TheyCallMeWill said:
Awesome! I am thinking about buying it and giving it a shot over my OnePlus 9.
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I know, I think I might do the same!

any reason why ASUS USA doesn't sell the highest specs/ one ? THe 16 RAM and 256 GB Storage ? Can't seem to find it on their website

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Is it really worth the price?

Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
Not for me. I got a s8 and can get a great deal on note 8
avatar_ro said:
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
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exactly! Also very happy with my oneplus 6 here
I think it's too expensive as well. Happy with my XZ2.
I think looking at the s9 plus or the lg g7 both have the same specs and are around 500 dollars now so yes it is very expensive for the premium to have the stylus.
Everyone is on here complaining about the price but honestly the note has always been the more expensive device. The Note 8 was $990 when it came out and the S9 Plus was $930. I mean the higher the memory and higher the ram yes its going to get more expensive just like everything when you get a upgraded model. If you don't like the price go with the base model. It's pretty simple or just dont get it period.
or, get a note 8, for a ton less, and almost identical features...
if you have the note 8 it isn't worth it , if you have s8 plus you might want to due to dual cameras you missed last year. I don't think its worth it right now 1000$ is a bit too much.
Specially when the s9+ can do the same thing as this phone besides the pen and the note 8 already has 90% of s pen features (except for useless pen remote thingy).
The only encouraging upgrade is the battery [but we haven't seen battery drain tests comparison yet]. The storage is not encouraging why? most of us have 128 GB SD Cards in our pockets and 512 GB SD Cards are expensive.
Make no mistake its a great phone but its only worth it if you use the pen and if you find the s9+ or note 8 battery capacity not enough for you , other wise the s9+ or the note 8 (depending if you want to shoot 4k 60 fps or 1080p 60 fps for 60 fps videos) is pretty good and almost has the same Camera features [Even in low light they are VERY close with all 3 of them having dual cameras and the amazing live focus features].
Personally I rather wait 1 year for price cuts [considering you have either note 8 / s9+].
I bought my Note 8 new for 600$ because I couldn't justify 950$. Now Note 8 is 600$ , I would wait until the price goes down.
Definitely worth it.
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
stereo speakers
use spen for selfie
better camera
ItsCrewz said:
Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
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There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
avatar_ro said:
I think it's very expensive and in Switzerland where I live now they don't give you any incentives so i will pass. I am very happy at the moment with my mate 10 pro.
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Everything is expensive in Switzerland! Ive been there a bunch of times and the fordt time was shocked at the cost of things.
I still love it there though, beautiful country.
But for me totally worth every penny, all $1500 of them
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Ryland Johnson said:
There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
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Yeaaa I understand that. But for the same specs almost u could get an note 8 or s9+
netnerd said:
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
better camera
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do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
Marginal camera improvements.
I think I'm sitting on the fence waiting for the Huawei to be released around Sept/Oct.
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netnerd said:
just faster CPU performance already worth it to upgrade from note8
stereo speakers
use spen for selfie
better camera
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Ryland Johnson said:
There is no answer to your question. Its relative.
If you want transport buy a bicycle, if you want to go one better buy a motorbike......Car....What car, a 4,500€ Yugo or a 1.5 million euro Roller?
Same with all tech purchases. Watches...... Buy a Swatch watch for 50€ or a Patek Philippe For half a million€ Its relative.
Got mobile phones here for 35.00€ Oddly enough THAT to me is a waste of money. If the Note 9 was made by Apple it would cost ?1,800.00€? and because it carries the Apple brand it would sell like hot cakes.
The Note series was never intended for mass sales as the S9 is. The note series is one of four styles in the 9 group. If you don't need nor use the S-pen buy the S9+ or the still cheaper S9.
So much to consider. My first lap top cost me twice this price in November 2000 and the specs!! ....650MHz processor. 6GB hard drive. 64Mb SDRAM memory etc.....
I think considering what the Note 9 does its incredible, not to mention only 36 months ago such technology would be only in ones dreams.
Unsure how one can value such a device? Very difficult. 1k for a smart phone, but then again its not just any smart phone is it.
Ryland
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the s9 has been a flop sales figures wise though....I seriously suspect N9 price will plunge in October / pre xmas sales and competition with Apple X11 or Huawei. Samsung are loosing ground and I don't believe this does anything to stop that....
My country have a promo. Buying the 128gb model will get free upgrade to 512gb.
And base in the exchange rate, it cost about 890 euros . This is from Singapore by the way.
ItsCrewz said:
Hi everyone!
The note 9 has just been released and I already saw the price tag in my country.
In my county, the phone cost 1249,- euro. That is a lot! That is for the 512gb 8gb ram version.
The 128gb 6gb ram version cost 1050,- euro. Still expensive!
There are some pretty cool new features on the phone but I don't really think its worth the price.
The price will drop in time of course, but I still think when it dropped, its still way too expensive. U can get a better deal for a greater price.
So... what do you think?
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bonerp said:
do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
Marginal camera improvements.
I think I'm sitting on the fence waiting for the Huawei to be released around Sept/Oct.
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Agreed.
Why buy the same phone as last year but with a wireless s pen that takes shots. I am still waiting for samsung to update their selfie camera to be as good as the back.
Also you are right about the argument "cuz cpu will be faster yeaa cuz its a car not a smartphone that goes 1 milisecond faster in opening Apps than past year"
Since when did Note 8 lag. And if Clock speed is the argument then you will just upgrade every 6 month due to fastest processor and waste your money
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knight900 said:
My country have a promo. Buying the 128gb model will get free upgrade to 512gb.
And base in the exchange rate, it cost about 890 euros . This is from Singapore by the way.
Sent from my SM-N950F using Tapatalk
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Good for you. Bad for every body else specially the uk.
bonerp said:
do you find performance problems with the N8? I certainly don't.
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i said the same thing when I used to have 14" PC monitor, that screen is perfectly fine, I don't need no bigger monitor.
I used to have DSL, are you complaining about the speed?
now I have 22" monitor and Comcast cable internet , you don't know what you missing until you have it.
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i said the same thing when I used to have 14" PC monitor, that screen is perfectly fine, I don't need no bigger monitor.
I used to have DSL, are you complaining about the speed?
now I have 22" monitor and Comcast cable internet , you don't know what you missing until you have it.
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Invalid argument. Did you know the note 9 has lower ppi than the note 8 with the same screen resolution. Will that stop you from buying Note 9?
Oh and the s10 will be 2 miliseconds faster,will you buy it too?
The speed you won't notice unless you compare them side by side. In your daily tasks you won't just say "Hm i saved 2 miliseconds." Again unless this is a racing car,this is not a valid argument.
Beside the fact nore 9 and note 8 software is the same.
And 0.1 increase in screen size and lower ppi.
Isn't 4G LTE good enough? Fast enough ?
I wonder why wireless carriers throwing million$ and million$ to build 5G networks

Nokia 7 plus VS Poco F1

Will it be a wise move to switch from Nokia 7 plus to Poco F1 (8GB+128GB version)??
I am quite confused as I have always been a big fan of Nokia (my first device was Nokia 1100 apart from which I have been Nokia Lumia 1320 for last four years & now 7 plus).
I also used Xiaomi Mi A1 and I like the kind of package Xiaomi offers at a very aggressive price.
I know the build quality of Poco F1 cant match the sturdy build quality of Nokia 7 plus, but it outruns 7 plus at all other aspects like the processor, RAM, clock speed, GPU etc.
I know Poco Fi doesn't have NFC. But I do not need it anyway.
Can someone please tell me if there is actually a quality difference in between Nokia and Xiaomi/OnePlus? Or if the new HMD owned Nokia is as good as Xiaomi or OnePlus (as both Nokia and Xiaomi devices are made by Foxconn)?
I would say no. Poco F1 has no NFC and no Android One.
Their service sucks.
Rowdyy Ronnie said:
Will it be a wise move to switch from Nokia 7 plus to Poco F1 (8GB+128GB version)??
I am quite confused as I have always been a big fan of Nokia (my first device was Nokia 1100 apart from which I have been Nokia Lumia 1320 for last four years & now 7 plus).
I also used Xiaomi Mi A1 and I like the kind of package Xiaomi offers at a very aggressive price.
I know the build quality of Poco F1 cant match the sturdy build quality of Nokia 7 plus, but it outruns 7 plus at all other aspects like the processor, RAM, clock speed, GPU etc.
I know Poco Fi doesn't have NFC. But I do not need it anyway.
Can someone please tell me if there is actually a quality difference in between Nokia and Xiaomi/OnePlus? Or if the new HMD owned Nokia is as good as Xiaomi or OnePlus (as both Nokia and Xiaomi devices are made by Foxconn)?
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Not only is not an Android One device, but comes with MIUI on top of Android.
Xiaomi had trouble to update to Android 8.1 their Android One phones also, so its mainly software and security updates vs power.
Same story with OnePlus.
More about it here - https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_pocophone_f1-review-1808p6.php
Why would you go from 7 plus to poco f1?
Sure, poco have much better cpu and gpu, but still its not enough not to even consider to upgrade especially when you will not see that much difference.
I would consider poco only if you want to play with the custom roms.
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Poco f1 is good for secondary phone, Its cheap.
Thank you, everyone. I eventually cancelled my order after giving it a lot of thought. You guys are right. First, their service centres suck (I know from my personal experience. Though I am not sure about HMD service centres as well). Second, I am not a gamer. I only have one game installed (Football Strike by MiniClip) but I hardly play that one as well. Third, the build and display quality of N7+ is just mind-blowing. Fourth, fast OTA updates. As being an AndroidOne device, we will get monthly security updates from Google and probably Android Pie by the end of September (and I saw the kind of improvement that Android Pie brings).
But here are few things that I don't like about Nokia 7 plus.
1. The resell value of Nokia devices are very less. I checked to see how is the resell value of Nokia 7 plus. And to my surprise, the response was pretty bad. I hardly got anyone who was interested. Even the one or two people who contacted me was not ready to pay more than INR.13,000 which is half of the price I spent on the device (INR.25,999). The worst part is, the device is not even a month old. Surprisingly, I got a very good price on my Xiaomi Mi A1 which I used for 10 months. My inbox was overflooded with buyer's messages. Even the shopkeeper from where I bought my Nokia 7 plus admitted that Nokia devices don't have resell value. If my device value comes down to half within just 1 month, I don't know how much will I get after a year or so.
2. Lack of custom ROMs/Kernels. I don't know why Nokia is still not allowing us to unlock the bootloader. Even though I had to pay for unlocking the bootloader, I still can't do anything with it except for rooting.
3. Lack of back cover and screen guard. I know there are a lot of screen guards and back covers available for Nokia 7 plus, but none of them are of good quality. I really want Spigen to make a back cover for N7+
4. With all due respect to the legacy of Nokia, I still feel Nokia devices are a bit overpriced (especially Nokia 7 plus). I understand the build quality is of top class. But still, I would say they are charging us quite a high price compared to what they are offering. They need to understand, even though the Nokia legacy is still alive, but people now want more VFM products. HMD Global needs to first concentrate on what are offering against the price they are charging. If the ratio is not proportional, people will eventually turn their head away from Nokia because now they have a lot of choices. It's not like 2000 where people used to purchase Nokia devices regardless of what amount they used to charge.
I would recommend to spend a little bit more and get the OnePlus 6. It checked all the boxes according to your needs.
although not have AndroidOne, BUT:
- support ProjectTrebble
- support officialy UNLOCKING bootloader
- officialy statement that unlocking NOT Void warranty
- officialy saying "try custom ROM, try GSI(GenericSystemImage)"
- with already released kernel sources
i too think about switch from N7+ right due to above... although N7+ isnicer and better manufactory, but HMD boycott community
The Poco has DRM issues so you can't watch netflix etc on HD. The so called stereo speakers are bad. You will have issues with call quality due to bad earpiece speaker. You could spend a bit more and get the Oneplus 6 for good hardware and that Oxygen OS <3.
All in all it's your decision.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31I09febJsg
The cons for this phone start at 11:00.
just wait , we have good dev support for n7+ and it will get bigger through time
I switched from Poco F1 to Nokia 7 Plus, Why?
-Multitouch issue - Poco F1 has a severe multitouch issue that the company is not telling if is a hardware problem or a software bug and the problem seems to be in most of Indian variants.
-Software Updates: Xiaomi is a well known name for not providing good updates and on time and if your phone runs on MIUI then it's total ****.
-Customer support: most laughable aspect of Xiaomi.
Reviewers are probably paid.
I won't buy cheap phones ever, after what Xiaomi did to me, wait for OnePlus instead and always buy phones after few months.
Buy a reliable and expensive product but cheap things like Poco.
sagar4sforce said:
just wait , we have good dev support for n7+ and it will get bigger through time
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Is problem with waiting, if many good developers ignoring/selling Nokia 7 Plus, because not possibly (officialy) unlock bootloader... this is really STUPID step from HMD that stop/slow growing of developers and powerusers community...
Is here two petition about unlocking bootloader:
https://www.change.org/p/hmd-global...to-unlock-the-bootloader-of-our-nokia-handset (actually 2422 sign)
https://community.phones.nokia.com/support/discussions/topics/7000024502 (actually 170 sign/like and 388 comments (+many (~50-100) comments deleted by Moderator)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-7-plus/how-to/petition-possibility-to-unlock-t3788953 (xda thread)
and from MHD is ZERO, repeat... ZERO reaction... only 1 reaction in nokia forum thread is from Laura about "stop vulgarism"
Me lost patience and before some day buy unoficialy signature file for unlocking, but this is not global solution, many people don't want in principle pay for having root/admin account for device which buyed and/or send IMEI/SN of his phone to 3rd people... Only positive is that is really not need have Customs N7+ ROMs, because with Project Treble is here GSI (Generic System Image)...

I've moved to an OP8

Just to let you know that I've purchased a OnePlus 8 to replace my OP5, which is still going strong.
Having compared the two, there's not actually that much difference in real world experiences apart from the cameras - which are a class apart.
Was it worth it? Probably not. But I needed something to occupy me in these times.
Alan
I was thinking of doing it but will go for pixel 5 or 8t pro after completing full cycle of updates till Android 10 on op5
jmd.desai08 said:
I was thinking of doing it but will go for pixel 5 or 8t pro after completing full cycle of updates till Android 10 on op5
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Seriously with this new overpriced prices OnePlus 8 branch is not good. Not really big difference with 7T Pro, more expensive, more big, same design and always a photo quality under others brand like Samsung, Apple, Google, Huawei.
I prefer now look arround Realme x50 Pro
https://www.realme.com/eu/realme-x50-pro
Price must be arround 600/679 $ for 8Go/128 Go Internal !
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I ordered my OnePlus 8 Pro few days ago, still waiting for it sadly ? I know it's overpriced and I should buy 7T pro and still be enjoying it, and it'll serve me well as was my 5T for almost past 2 years, but I decided that I have to go for the best this time, and I like OOS too much to settle on it using Samsung or Huawei device, so I've chosen 8 pro, and I'm so excited to see this screen for the first time. Price is high because it's a real flagship deal this time, like the other manufacturers. I know company have to make money, they already lost so much because of this stupid covid quarantine thing, they have to wait with release for month, and it's also in the price of the end product, and I'm fine with it, cause I'm buying, imo the best phone in the market rn.
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jmd.desai08 said:
Overpriced: true
iPhone SE : flagship processor, flagship display, flagship camera. $400
OnePlus 8: flagship processor, no flagship display, no flagship camera. 699 (300$ just for design is no justification) (flagship is respective company's flagship devices)
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iPhone SE don't have flagship processor because they didn't include the A1 chip, and it's a little slower compared to iPhone 11. It's same chip, right, but they made few cuts here and there.
It also don't have flagship display, and flagship camera. Display is same as iPhone 8, and the camera have only one lense, and Apple's flagships have three lenses, so no flagship specs.
It's cheaper because they want more users for their cloud and services.
OnePlus 8 is like lite version of real flagship, and iPhone SE is just a middle range phone for people who don't need flagship-like device, it's targeted to other types of people.
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Unn113 said:
I ordered my OnePlus 8 Pro few days ago, still waiting for it sadly I know it's overpriced and I should buy 7T pro and still be enjoying it, and it'll serve me well as was my 5T for almost past 2 years, but I decided that I have to go for the best this time, and I like OOS too much to settle on it using Samsung or Huawei device, so I've chosen 8 pro, and I'm so excited to see this screen for the first time. Price is high because it's a real flagship deal this time, like the other manufacturers. I know company have to make money, they already lost so much because of this stupid covid quarantine thing, they have to wait with release for month, and it's also in the price of the end product, and I'm fine with it, cause I'm buying, imo the best phone in the market rn.
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iPhone SE don't have flagship processor because they didn't include the A1 chip, and it's a little slower compared to iPhone 11. It's same chip, right, but they made few cuts here and there.
It also don't have flagship display, and flagship camera. Display is same as iPhone 8, and the camera have only one lense, and Apple's flagships have three lenses, so no flagship specs.
It's cheaper because they want more users for their cloud and services.
OnePlus 8 is like lite version of real flagship, and iPhone SE is just a middle range phone for people who don't need flagship-like device, it's targeted to other types of people.
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I agree to you, OOS is great and Pixel also. You can be happy, only the price is the bad point for 8 Pro, it's a good device. And for the iPhone Se, above all, it's only a 4.7" lol
7T is better than 8 in camera department, moreover it has in aperture of 1.6 for the main camera
Very hard to me to justify upgrading my OP5 right now. I usually upgrade phones after 18-24 months out of necessity, but I'm on month 26 with this now with no upgrade plans.
Screen size, performance, Android version etc are all still perfect for me, never lacking.
Camera might be the only reason, but it's good enough for me now.
I'm EXACTLY in the same boat! The only other thing that might need attention is the battery. But with sockets never too far away, I can easily overlook the issue.
alan sh said:
Just to let you know that I've purchased a OnePlus 8 to replace my OP5, which is still going strong.
Having compared the two, there's not actually that much difference in real world experiences apart from the cameras - which are a class apart.
Was it worth it? Probably not. But I needed something to occupy me in these times.
Alan
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whould you like to sell your old oneplus 5's display?

General [Info] ASUS ZenFone 8

See:
https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-8-series-leak-specs/
Interesting phone, i wanted to get it, but asus decided to remove sd slot, and to put usb 2.0 type-c port. There is nothing flagship about that
I know that doesnt matter to most users, but cmon, its 2021... Usb 2.0 on a sd888 16gb ram ufs 3.1 phone???
Hope to see twrp and some good rom too it soon
Just placed my order.
Have 14 days to try it out and to see if it will replace my IPhone 12 mini.
Truly fantastic phone. instant buy.
Hope GCam will be available for non root device.
Question to the Asus longtime users.
Is there any way to get the phone cheaper at launch? some special promo ot stuff?
Can someone verify if there will be a USA release? The current spec sheet doesnt have compatible 5g bands for T-Mobile.
@Haldi4803
here in Germany there is a little Promo for Pre-Order
and a Shop sell the 128gb with 8GB for 599€
How is the ASUS politics about bootloader unlock and de-googling phones? I would buy it as soon as I can use it without Google.
The battery life seems really pitiful and with that 33w lackluster charging I do not feel it's that great a device these paid reviewers are making it to be. 5.5 hours SOT is not something to boast about.
It would've been perfect if ASUS would've chosen the Snapdragon 870, which makes sense considering the mediocre cameras that don't even need the DSP of the 888 and almost equal performance to it and much better throttling/thermals and battery efficiency.
So sad.
TheArt. said:
How is the ASUS politics about bootloader unlock and de-googling phones? I would buy it as soon as I can use it without Google.
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What do you want to use it with? Ubuntu?
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What do you want to use it with? Ubuntu?
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No, Ubuntu is not feasible at the moment, unfortunately their OS is not compatible with many phones and they do not have all the apps. Yes, I know you were ironic, btw.
FYI, I would like to use it with LineageOS or similar ROMs, without gapps, for a variety of reasons:
Because I do not need most of Google apps and services;
Because Google Play Services eats battery doing things I do not want to,;
Because I like having more control of what is happening on my devices;
There are also a privacy concern which is real, Rob Braxman on YouTube can tell you more about that.
Regarding my initial question (that you haven't replied), I suppose I will keep monitoring the XDA and 4pda forums and see how things will evolve.
Asus provide bootloader utility for previous devices, should be up for zenfone 8 soon.
I will add signature spoofing and degoogle stock rom. I have done it for all my devices: improved battery life and full control.
When is the phone going to be released in the UK? Cannot find any information whatsoever?
@marvi0
Asus ZenFone 8 & 8 Flip: Everything you need to know
The Asus ZenFone 8 ditches the series' iconic camera for a compact form factor, but the less powerful ZenFone 8 Flip keeps it around for the faithful
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I got my 16/256 Zenfone 8 yesterday, its an gem. Very snappy and well built.
Need the bootloader unlock tool from asus to unlock full potential tho.
NisseGurra said:
I got my 16/256 Zenfone 8 yesterday, its an gem. Very snappy and well built.
Need the bootloader unlock tool from asus to unlock full potential tho.
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Where did you buy it please?
Its on sale from number of stores here in sweden
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NisseGurra said:
I got my 16/256 Zenfone 8 yesterday, its an gem. Very snappy and well built.
Need the bootloader unlock tool from asus to unlock full potential tho.
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Did you try any of Asus previously published unlock apps? For example, this one looks rather generic:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZS670KS/AsusUnlock_1.0.0.7_210127_fulldpi.apk
EDIT:
I was right, I think.
Asus actually published the same unlock tool under the ZS690KS folder:
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/ZenFone/ZS590KS/AsusUnlock_1.0.0.7_210127_fulldpi.apk

General Very Disappointed in OnePlus

The OP 10 Pro is the second time OP has truly disappointed me. The phone is only available with 128GB in the US. For a "pro" model, this is a joke. The $900 price puts it right at a PIxel 6 Pro and S22+ price. There is 0 reason to get the OnePlus vs those two, considering both have substantially better cameras, more support for accessories, and much bigger communities on XDA.
My most recent OP was the 9 (non-pro). I've been very disappointed with the cameras, as even an old Pixel 3 I have takes better pics in most conditions. I replaced it about a month ago with a Korean s20 Ultra (so I can root), and I'm never going back. Much better camera, so many case options, and even though the processor is an older model, it feels just as fast. Went with the 20 vs 21 for sdcard support, and having an extra 512gb for $60 is great. I have all my pics and vids ever on the phone. All OSM for US, Canada, and Mexico, tons of music on the phone for flying (which I do a lot).
I've been a long time OP supporter, right from the OP1, and have had every phone except the OP2. They seemed to lose their way with the 7 (I had to get a chinese model since I didn't want the pro), and have been on a decline ever since, charging more but not offering anything better except the new snapdragon processor.
Sorry for the rant. I'm sure the 10 pro will be a decent phone. Right on par with the 9 pro, which was a decent phone. I'm just not excited about OP releases any more, when I used to be online hitting refresh for the sale to open.
Doesn't help that Jerryrig snapped the phone in half very easily. Be careful, these look fragile.
No SD card slot regardless of the internal memory capacity is a severe handicap. Even 500gb internal memory isn't enough let alone 128gb without an SD card. Having a OS drive and data drive(s) is the best way to run any PC or smartphone.
Samsung has also dropped the Note and the ball on all their current Flagships.
They screwed their loyal power users Apple bad.
Google Adroid emulated Apple by adopting cpu cycling sucking, user unfriendly scoped storage.
Android 11 and up suck Apple bad now.
I have 2 N10+'s, the second new one was bought 5 months ago. One is running on 9, the newer one on 10.
Whatever. I'm good for a couple years.
OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
Thr3kk said:
No dual-sim USA. No 256gb USA. Both deal-breakers for me.
I spoke with my money when I canceled and bought a pixel 6 pro instead.
#NeverSettle
Oneplus are a bunch of turds now.
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Pretty much this - I can't see a single advantage the OP10Pro has over the Pixel 6 Pro or s22 + or ultra. Granted, the sammy is a little more expensive.
I got the OP 10 Pro and I don't like the design after seeing it with my naked eyes and I'm gonna return this and get an S22 Plus!
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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And 80W charge.
Buy chinese version for dual sim card
Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
HessNL said:
In the EU we have 12gb ram 256gb
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maddler said:
And 80W charge.
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kouzelnik3 said:
Or an european one - we have dual sim too.
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True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
Fornacis said:
True True, I picked up my copy of the OP 10PRO 12/256 today.
Moving from OP6 makes a difference
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AH, yeah! Fromt the 6 is quite a big move indeed!
I came from the 8Pro, not a crazy difference, but with the trade-in I got just a little less of what I paid for at last year's Amazon Black Friday
I don't understand why anyone would buy this phone. Performance is the same or worse than a 9 Pro depending on what you are doing, has less storage and ram, is more fragile, and the camera system overall is worse. This phone is a flop.
Another interesting fact is that our local amazon has gone down in price. For the first two days it was 1029Euro, then they lowered the price by 6% to 964Euro.
Not much, but still something. Plus headphones (OnePlus Buds Pro) on sale in preorder and the price becomes bearable
I can test it for one day and here are few things...
80W and 65W are almost the same
Stereo speaker downgrade
With 50/50 mobile/wifi up to 5h SOT
No OxygenOS (its more ColorOS with Oxygen skin)
Front camera is much better
Yes, no IP68
galaxys said:
OEM new device releases are always a rollercoaster
I just ordered the Global black 128gb 10 Pro to take it for a spin....
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Hey,
You got the 10.. I just received mine today, good t see you.
Re: the OP.... Soon as there's some good pixel ROMs the photos back storage will be unlimited, 128GB for the most part is more than enough, at the end of the day it's a phone, would be nice to have more but not the end of the world.
Regarding the RAM, I'm not too upset by it.. should use less battery being 8 and not 12.. I don't think that there will be a performance hit.
Rest of the hardware is the same so I'm happy with it.
Guess if you really need 12 and 256 plus then I think your only option would be to buy direct.

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