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Linux on Trinity

Who are interested to see Linux also on this device?
The process should be very similar to Hermes implementation, so we can follow their steps.

Interesting

is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?

kimusan said:
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
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answering myself: yes it is, which means that I am in! I would love to help with the investigation for getting linux on this device. Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.

kimusan said:
Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
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Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?

cr2 said:
Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this? As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.

kimusan said:
What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this?
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http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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Do you have a link ?

cr2 said:
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
Do you have a link ?
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It is in one (or more) of the threads in the trinity forum here at xdadevelopers. I do not have the direct links here, but have seen them recently. it is most likely in oone of the "GPS or not GPS" threads.

I have now registered the HTC Trinity/P3600

Very
interesting

cr2 said:
Do you have a link ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285090
See first attachment, Mainboard.zip contains front and back pictures of Trinity's mainboard, with all chipsets.

Look here for the schemes:
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/
page 2 and 3.

How is the state of art in porting linux on this device?
And on Hermes? Does the kernel boot?
With wm6 do you have to hard reset every time you try to boot the kernel?
Maybe Pof can answer these questions.
Thanks

@renatostore: cr2 and Kevin2 are the guys working on it, come into #htc-linux at freenode irc network.
On hermes the kernel boots, and we can load a minimal initrd using haret. On trinity i haven't checked lastly.
You don't need to hard reset afer booting linux, that was only on WM2003

Hi
How about linux on trinity? i've been on the irc channel but didn't get any answer... a few months passed... i'm in hope!

I don't have high hope on that. Heard it's very difficult to debug stuff in Linux due to the lack of a hardware kb....

why do you want linux on this phone? you are not going to be able to cross-compile apps over and I don't see a useful app in linux that wm6 doesn't have already for a phone.

Hi...
Still interested...
Had someexperience with h36xx and h38xx/h39xx series HP/Compaq PDA's and familiar linux, and it would be very cool to have some of this running on the HTC hardware too...
Anyone already had a ROM cooked up with kernel/basic apps?
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
Thanks!

bkortleven said:
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
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Check the hermes wiki.
trinity is the hermes without keyboard, minor differences are unimportant

The future of Linux on PDAs is Andromeda. Don't expect this to be implemented on existing devices - Andromeda will be a means to deliver new devices to the market.
While you will most likely need a new phone for Andromeda, you will gain a complete platform with stylish and working applications, so you will be able to actually use the device right from the start.
Have fun!

[Q] Best linux OS for a newbie

So I'm guessing there is a lot of Linux guys here and I have just bought a new HDD for installing Linux. So what do you guys recommend for a total newbie (with only Linux that is) like me?
Anything else than Ubuntu
Thanks

I reckon Ubuntu is your best bet Pretty n00b friendly
Edit: lol Just noticed the big writing saying not ubuntu my bad
Try looking here http://www.linux.org/dist/
Set language to english and intel compatible and it will show all the Linux Distributions Maybe just see wht you like the look off

MacaronyMax said:
I reckon Ubuntu is your best bet Pretty n00b friendly
Edit: lol Just noticed the big writing saying not ubuntu my bad
Try looking here http://www.linux.org/dist/
Set language to english and intel compatible and it will show all the Linux Distributions Maybe just see wht you like the look off
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Thx will do
BTW how did you know I have an intel?

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
Thx will do
BTW how did you know I have an intel?
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I didn't There was no AMD lol

i'm thinking about Linux now, haha, would i be able to set a dual boot on my laptop that already has XP on it?

factualpuddle said:
i'm thinking about Linux now, haha, would i be able to set a dual boot on my laptop that already has XP on it?
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Yep you would either need another harddrive or to partition your harddrive or to run in a VM

i was just gonna make another partition, and if i do, and it installs, will it automatically ask me which to boot from when i power it on?

Why not Ubuntu just out of curiosity. Don't want to start a flame war
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i personally chose ubuntu, lol, how big would you say i need the partition to be?

factualpuddle said:
i personally chose ubuntu, lol, how big would you say i need the partition to be?
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Not too big realy maybe 8GB if your not going to use it much but otherwise more

factualpuddle said:
i personally chose ubuntu, lol, how big would you say i need the partition to be?
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Ubuntu can make almost all the partition work for you

Keithod said:
Why not Ubuntu just out of curiosity. Don't want to start a flame war
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I just think it's too common and too similar to Windows I want something new

Oh okay. If you try something "exotic" let us know your feedback!! I am going to do a reinstall on my computer soon and was thinking of switching away from Ubuntu just for the sake of trying something new so I'd like to hear some objective reviews.
Have you thought about "rolling your own"?
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Keithod said:
Oh okay. If you try something "exotic" let us know your feedback!! I am going to do a reinstall on my computer soon and was thinking of switching away from Ubuntu just for the sake of trying something new so I'd like to hear some objective reviews.
Have you thought about "rolling your own"?
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What do you mean? I did write "newbie" in the title right?

Sorry I meant you can make your own. There's a site dedicated to it but you might not want to do that just yet. Have you looked at OpenSuse? Haven't used it in a while but it was good. I tried the KDE version of Federa a month or two ago. A bit buggy! Mint Linux has had some good reviews anyway just my input!
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Keithod said:
Sorry I meant you can make your own. There's a site dedicated to it but you might not want to do that just yet. Have you looked at OpenSuse? Haven't used it in a while but it was good. I tried the KDE version of Federa a month or two ago. A bit buggy! Mint Linux has had some good reviews anyway just my input!
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Personally it's only the GUI I want to have some variety in so I'm trying out "Xubuntu" which I think is Ubuntu with XDE desktop-thing-which-I-don't-remember-what's-called-thing xD I did read about openSUSE but it was too much like Ubuntu I think

For a complete noob, Ubuntu is the way to go. It'll get you started pretty quick and the interface is just a matter of choice. If you want something that's uberHaxX0rZ, try installing a tiling Window Manager such as awesome instead of Gnome (which is default in Ubuntu).
I myself use Arch Linux with gnome-panel and Compiz as a standalone Window Manager and I'm loving it!

I myself am an Ubuntu man. I'm currently digging the Ubuntu 10.10 beta. 2 weeks until the final release!

I myself is trying to use the default window manager in Kubuntu but I can't get it working It's driving me crazy :/ It just says that non of the effects could be enabled...

C0mpu13rFr34k said:
I myself is trying to use the default window manager in Kubuntu but I can't get it working It's driving me crazy :/ It just says that non of the effects could be enabled...
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This usually happens because the drivers for your graphics card aren't installed properly (or the card is ancient).
This is exactly one of the things why I personally dislike Ubuntu. If you're lucky, it'll work like a charm, but if you're not, you're gonna spend hours and hours trying to get it to work.
Either way, you can probably fix it by downloading and installing proprietary drivers for your card, since the open source ones probably don't work with your card. Though on the other hand, maybe you need to use opensource ones because the proprietary ones that installed automatically don't work? Who knows?

[Q]Ubuntu on the Atrix

I have read the thread about Full Ubuntu on the Atrix. What I am asking is something different.
Cant this hack work on the Motorola Atrix
Ubuntu on Nexus/Android Phone
It has instructions that seem to work on all android phones.
Anyone want to try it and tell me how it goes.

Should. There was a thread in here about doing the same thing but with debian. Its probably a couple of pages back.
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I can't seem to find it. Can tell me roughly what the title was?
Also any other devs care to chime in?
Please

It'll probably work, but... why??? You already have a perfectly functional Ubuntu running on your phone.

Sogarth said:
It'll probably work, but... why??? You already have a perfectly functional Ubuntu running on your phone.
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Well to access that I will need some output monitor. I would like to have Ubuntu on the screen itself.
What is the worst that can happen to the phone if I tried it?

RacecarBMW said:
Well to access that I will need some output monitor. I would like to have Ubuntu on the screen itself.
What is the worst that can happen to the phone if I tried it?
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The worst? Who knows?
Sure, you could set up a VNC server under the Ubuntu and then run VNC from either your device (Android) or from an external client. That's what the linked method is doing, so there's nothing inherently better about it.

Sogarth said:
The worst? Who knows?
Sure, you could set up a VNC server under the Ubuntu and then run VNC from either your device (Android) or from an external client. That's what the linked method is doing, so there's nothing inherently better about it.
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Well I don't know much but do you think that method at the source will work?
It doesn't seem to dive into the phone too much. It seems like an app. Also does anyone know of a way to get rid of it after I install it?

RacecarBMW said:
Well I don't know much but do you think that method at the source will work?
It doesn't seem to dive into the phone too much. It seems like an app. Also does anyone know of a way to get rid of it after I install it?
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Me? No idea. I'm not sure how much magic is happening behind the scenes, and I'm currently involved in, well, making sure that the Ubuntu that Motorola ships works well to look too deeply into this. Sorry.

Sogarth said:
Me? No idea. I'm not sure how much magic is happening behind the scenes, and I'm currently involved in, well, making sure that the Ubuntu that Motorola ships works well to look too deeply into this. Sorry.
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ok no problem if you come along something can you please tell me.

RacecarBMW said:
I have read the thread about Full Ubuntu on the Atrix. What I am asking is something different.
Cant this hack work on the Motorola Atrix
Ubuntu on Nexus/Android Phone
It has instructions that seem to work on all android phones.
Anyone want to try it and tell me how it goes.
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Have you seen my post on getting Debian running on the Atrix? Debian and Ubuntu are kind of similar IMO, and can run the same applications. To get it go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=986071

Thank you so much that is what I wanted.
Yea I use debian on my laptop and Ubuntu on my desktop.

Glad to see I helped But the question is did it work? I know a LOT of people were having trouble with it. I did it fine with no problems, I hope it went the same way for you.

I'm working on getting a vanilla copy of Debian running on the device. So far everything works except X, which can't detect a properly configured device. Will post if I have any success with it.

shawnbuck said:
I'm working on getting a vanilla copy of Debian running on the device. So far everything works except X, which can't detect a properly configured device. Will post if I have any success with it.
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Thats great! Playing with Debian on the Atrix is actually quite fun. I had problems installing deb packages on it though for some reason. Have you tried installing flash on the FireWiesel browser? Failed for me. As did everything else I tried to install.

(req) help installing ubuntu on windows 7 primium 64bit (solved)

hey i was wondering if someone would help me install ubuntu on my win7 hp laptop now i tried this erlier via the usb method but i almost killed my computer my computer restarted and i got a black screen of death and i went into recovery and it hung on automatic system repair for about 40min and i was about 2min away from doing a full wipe on my computer and starting over luckily it finished and my computer restarted and all is good now. so now im ready for round 2 however i would really like some outside help before i try and tackle this again blindly lol.
so would someone please pm me and ill send u my gtalk info.
thx in advance.

I would imagine ubuntu hasn't changed all that much since I last tried the distro. Plus editing partitions is almost universally the same so I'll help you one of these nights (Mon- Wed) if you don't get help from someone else before hand.
Edit: actually I'm back in my town again, so tonight could possibly work out as well depending on when you're free. (I'm free between ~7-10pm CST then I have some things to take care of)
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thx kyouko but i managed to get it going using a cd isntead of usb im loving this i did a 20gig hdd partition for it and i may make this my daily lol.

Bierce22 said:
thx kyouko but i managed to get it going using a cd isntead of usb im loving this i did a 20gig hdd partition for it and i may make this my daily lol.
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good to hear. especially because things came up and I'm no longer free to help if I wanted
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ummmm.
Just to ask, what dose this have to do with an htc hero ?
but to answer your question u can just DL the .iso and mount it and the auto play will let you install it on top of windows

okay first of all im really glad your second post on xda was to flame somebody. second if youd bothered to read it you would've realized i got it fixed but thx anyway....

mholzschuh said:
Just to ask, what dose this have to do with an htc hero ?
but to answer your question u can just DL the .iso and mount it and the auto play will let you install it on top of windows
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Walk away man... you almost bricked your hero and with the help of xda members you got it back up. Be grateful. This is the general section. Plus its linux. Which is what you have in your hand. In turn which is a hero... which has....linux.... so yes it has to do with the hero....
Enough sarcasm?
®patience is a virtue©

Good to hear that you got it installed.
JFYI - Ubuntu has an option where it can be installed as a directory within Windows. I have not used that option, but it did come up when I installed it, last time.

yea ubuntu is pretty sweet kind of buggy though im glad i only did a 20gig partition lol

try running arch linux no bugs here
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Edit: Which version did you install on your computer? x64 or i386 (32bit)

i installed ubuntu 11.0.4 64 bit the main bugs are wirless tether not working and after looking around in the ubuntu forums its something to do with the wireless drivers on ubuntu

[Q] Is there any chance to get wp8 to our HD7s...?

Can someone share the info related above with the topic

MeTinnn said:
Can someone share the info related above with the topic
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Windows Phone 8 is made for multi core processors phones

It can be backported and with the correct kernel modifications coild easily run on simgle core. Because the hd7 has a powerfull cpu
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We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.

maya79 said:
We can run MacOSX on the PC, so nothing is impossible, but I don't believe that someone will do such hard work without good reason.
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This requires to have the working ROM Microsoft used for testing and development...
Its is a well known fact that WP8 was tested on the HD7, someone discovered the log about the "work in progress" of WP8 and the log clearly stated that the testing phone was the HD7.
Now, about the beta they used? Well getting our hands on that ROM, it's a challenge someone must face... (a real hacker, not those script kids, posers)