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Samsung Gear. Tizen or Android?

Hi. Bought a Galaxy Gear 1. It's still on Android at the moment. Is it worth upgrading to Tizen? Are there any major advantages or disadvantages? Thanks

Battery is better on Tizen and there are more apps from the store. But it looks like Android is the only way to get it working with Lollipop at least with non Samsung phones.

Thanks for the reply. I'll do a bit more research. I read you can revert back to android but is that 100% or just if your lucky.
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I would say android all the way. I have tried tizen and didn't last long before downgrading. Android has a lot more apps available from play store and is much more versatile. Better battery on tizen perhaps but you can always clock the speed down on android which helps.

b_kennedy said:
Thanks for the reply. I'll do a bit more research. I read you can revert back to android but is that 100% or just if your lucky.
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I have done it honestly 30 times or more, it works 100% but you have to follow the directions to a T otherwise you end up with touch not working. If that happens just start over, it's happened to me a few times by not booting to recovery.

joesnose said:
I would say android all the way. I have tried tizen and didn't last long before downgrading. Android has a lot more apps available from play store and is much more versatile. Better battery on tizen perhaps but you can always clock the speed down on android which helps.
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The Gear I has been on Tizen since July of 2014; almost a year. Do any of the original third party Android apps even still work? I'd imagine Samsung's work to some extent but even they'll sunset as Android isn't a supported OS for the Gear I any longer. If someone's using a Gear with a non-Samsung phone I guess that's different because it's kind of "franken-phone" set up any way. But with all the cheap Android Wear options available that really do work with any Android phone it seems kind of illogical to cling to a Samsung-biased device anyway.

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Null ROM is jellybean, jellybean is still very much supported. Just install play store and you have just about any app availiable , screen size permitting.

I think that Android, null rom, have no support for NOTIFICATIONS if Lollipop is on the phone (Note 3). No way to make them work, for me. Tried a lot of Gear Manager versions... :/

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I think that Android, null rom, have no support for NOTIFICATIONS if Lollipop is on the phone (Note 3). No way to make them work, for me. Tried a lot of Gear Manager versions... :/
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hi ,
i find it strange ,that you are struggling to get it to work ?
My setup is Note 4 ( N910F ) Lollipop v 5.0.1 and my Gear Null ROM ..i have no problems with notifications from Note 4 /Gear .. .Gear manager v 1.8.022599, works 100%, no issues
Been using above combo for long time .
good luck

But he probably didn't check notification access in settings...
Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk

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zviki said:
But he probably didn't check notification access in settings...
Sent from my C6603 using Tapatalk
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I got some real over heating problems with using null 23 Rom for the Samsung gear 1. It continued to get really hot on my wrist and also displayed and over heating icon while charging. It have me hell to revert back to stock android, but I did. Dont know if I did something wrong but I did not try it again.

Very happy with Tizen.
I had such hi hopes for my gear but the app store was hopeless with the exception of watchstyler, upgraded to Tizen 3 days ago and can not believe the difference, Tizen really gives the gear wings. The watch faces in the Tizen app store are REALLY nice and I now have the apps I need, calender, calculater, flashlight and an app that lets me see on my watch through my phones camera. Not sure about the battery life but am so pleased to have upgraded.

Wear OS 3.0, A Possibility?

Hey guys. Just a general question here. And, some sort of a poll here too.
Would LG roll out Android Oreo for the next update or Wear OS 3.0? Do you guys think that LG would continue to roll out updates for this watch?

jereyeap said:
Hey guys. Just a general question here. And, some sort of a poll here too.
Would LG roll out Android Oreo for the next update or Wear OS 3.0? Do you guys think that LG would continue to roll out updates for this watch?
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Watch was abandoned way last year

Unfortunately, R.I.P this great watch....

Actually, I would guess yes - WearOS is now a layer over the firmware and it is updated as an app.
Google has said that "all devices currently on WearOS 2.0 will get 3.0

Yess definetly! They said only the LG G Watch won't get the update

Jaco2k said:
Actually, I would guess yes - WearOS is now a layer over the firmware and it is updated as an app.
Google has said that "all devices currently on WearOS 2.0 will get 3.0
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Android Wear 2.0(one we have in lg urbane) != WearOS 2.0, so i think we won't have any updates.

I received the Wear OS 2.1 update today. Long live the Urbane!

kbm25 said:
I received the Wear OS 2.1 update today. Long live the Urbane!
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The update is great. Wear OS Team worked hard.

Guys, how did you get it? My watch keeps saying 'system up to date'

sudaltsov said:
Guys, how did you get it? My watch keeps saying 'system up to date'
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I had checked a few times, but it just showed up yesterday morning. Didn't do anything special.

sudaltsov said:
Guys, how did you get it? My watch keeps saying 'system up to date'
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It is not a "system update" but just a Playstore update for the watch UI, no change in OS
Automatic if your Playstore watch apps update is set to "auto" or manual if not.

kbm25 said:
I had checked a few times, but it just showed up yesterday morning. Didn't do anything special.
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I think that the only thing to do is to wait. Did you like the update?

DarthOrus said:
I think that the only thing to do is to wait. Did you like the update?
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Yes, the left/right/up/down swiping is more intuitive and the notifications are more detailed. The watch seems snappier for most things, except the Play Store. This update fixes many of the mistakes Google made with the 2.0 update (like swiping left or right to change the watch face).

Just a heads up that my brother's LG Watch Urbane got the new UI update today. My Huawei Watch still hasn't, but that's besides the point. The update is going to happen,

I got it this morning

Also instaled 2.16 when watch few days ago offered. But don´t know, in my watch battery keep less than with older version. Will do reset today and will test tomorrow. I think that less lasting battery is because of much more notifications from phone, but will see tomorrow. I have W150.

It's great to see that our watch is still updated !
I find as well that batery life is less as before.
Before update, i could finish the day with 50%, and now, i finish at 30%.

Just got the update today!
Wow it is a lot quicker and more smooth. They added cool stuff like battery saving mode, more settings when swiping down, easier to read the notifications and so on...
I actually liked it a lot and happy to see it still gets the UI updates. I cant tell anything about the battery life since the update happened a few hours ago. Great work LG!

Help with Android Messages

I finally made the jump and purchased my first smart watch; I have the new Galaxy watch 3 and a S10e.
My main gripes/issues so far:
I use the Google/Android version of messages not the default Samsung one. The Google version of the App is not available in the Galaxy store. The watch is constantly asking me to change to the Samsung version on my phone (not happening) and I can't go back a look at old messages on my watch. Is there any way to fix that, or sideload a google version of the app on these watches?
Also all the health monitoring features are restricted out side of the S. Korean regions. Should've done more research before the purchase....

sideload a google version of the app on these watches?
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All I know at the moment is.
Sideload TPK and/or WGT require maybe some research...
As Security increased... and maybe old Tricks not work...
I have NO GW3... only read posts from GW3 users... example:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83229671&postcount=1341
Best Regards

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I finally made the jump and purchased my first smart watch; I have the new Galaxy watch 3 and a S10e.
My main gripes/issues so far:
I use the Google/Android version of messages not the default Samsung one. The Google version of the App is not available in the Galaxy store. The watch is constantly asking me to change to the Samsung version on my phone (not happening) and I can't go back a look at old messages on my watch. Is there any way to fix that, or sideload a google version of the app on these watches?
Also all the health monitoring features are restricted out side of the S. Korean regions. Should've done more research before the purchase....
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New features are coming to USA at least. They just released the oxygen sensor update and the ECG just passed FDA approval so will undoubtedly be coming soon.

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pzman89 said:
New features are coming to USA at least. They just released the oxygen sensor update and the ECG just passed FDA approval so will undoubtedly be coming soon.
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When did the oxygen sensor update get released?
By the way I have a USA version SM-R840 Non-Wifi Galaxy three with firmware ATF3

mrhelio said:
When did the oxygen sensor update get released?
By the way I have a USA version SM-R840 Non-Wifi Galaxy three with firmware ATF3
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It hasn't been released in the US yet. It has been released in other locations (Canada being one) .. but not the US just yet.

wattsja said:
It hasn't been released in the US yet. It has been released in other locations (Canada being one) .. but not the US just yet.
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Does Canada have the ECG and BP enabled as well as the oxygen sensor?

mrhelio said:
Does Canada have the ECG and BP enabled as well as the oxygen sensor?
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not yet .. BUT the same update (sleep score, advanced training details, vO2 / oxygen measure) has been released in the US as of today (8/12).

any info on google message app on the S3? i use the OnePlus 6t and i get my messages but only test, no images, and i cant initiate a new message using google messages, nor view older messages.

I was at least getting android MESSAGES notification on my GW3 but not any more-I tried rebooting rechecked app settings nothing obvious found. I have notifications for Android Messages still toggled on in the Gear Wear app still. Frustrating....

Samsung Health Monitor

I just got the latest watch update in the UK today which is great.
However the phone app "Samsung Health Monitor" keeps telling me this app is not available in your country...
Anyone have any ideas or see something similar?

I have same issue and my location is europe. Malta. Cant use app

New SHM has country restriction Samsung decided to push... I have modified the app, removed country and root detection...

@Dante63 Thank you for sharing - SHM has added more check for geo. I was confused whether to get all latest updates on watch and shm on phone (had installed pacthed ecg, bp tpks). Was afraid - what if new shm / watch firmware - does any new checks. From your post, it sure looks they have added more checks (so i might loose access to ecg, bp). Am not sure of conclusion, please do correct me if wrong. Thanks for sharing info about geo.

user87uihjmk said:
@Dante63 Thank you for sharing - SHM has added more check for geo. I was confused whether to get all latest updates on watch and shm on phone (had installed pacthed ecg, bp tpks). Was afraid - what if new shm / watch firmware - does any new checks. From your post, it sure looks they have added more checks (so i might loose access to ecg, bp). Am not sure of conclusion, please do correct me if wrong. Thanks for sharing info about geo.
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The watch doesn't have any checks... it's easier and less battery consuming to check on the phone... putting checks on the watch will drain the battery...

Dante63, I commented on your yt video, but thought I'd say here too -
THANKS!!
This process worked for me and now I finally have BP working on my watch in the US!
Cup or two of coffee headed your way.

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I just got the latest watch update in the UK today which is great.
However the phone app "Samsung Health Monitor" keeps telling me this app is not available in your country...
Anyone have any ideas or see something similar?
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jameszah said:
I have same issue and my location is europe. Malta. Cant use app
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I could've sworn that I replied to both of you but I guess XDA is playing games with me lol...
Latest SMH has country restrictions Samsung decided to push... I have modified the app, removed country and root detection...
Aside from that, device restriction thanks to @l0nax and took the opportunity to reduce the age restriction from 22 to 16...
Also, since my thread has different versions and old versions have force update, I removed that, so It's easy to bounce between different versions...
You can grab any from my thread and hopefully it works for you two

I have installed SHM in my Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G for my Samsung Galaxy Watch 3 without restrictions from another thread here and I was able to measure blood pressure and do ECG. Now I got a 2nd watch - a Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 that I also want to use with my phone. Is it possible to use the same SMH on the phone for both watches? Thanks in advance to those who will reply.

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I have installed SHM in my Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G for my Samsung Galaxy Watch 3 without restrictions from another thread here and I was able to measure blood pressure and do ECG. Now I got a 2nd watch - a Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 that I also want to use with my phone. Is it possible to use the same SMH on the phone for both watches? Thanks in advance to those who will reply.
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It's on the thread you got the SHM from, literally there, you can see that there are 2 SHMs, one for WearOS and one for Tizen, each watch OS has its own SHM

Got it!

How To Guide How to get ECG and BP GW5

How does one get the app to download and activated for ECG and BP? When I try and activate it from the watch my Samsung Galaxy A52 says it's not available in my region.

Looking for the answer to this as well.....I used my watch 4 to keep a check on my BP when I had it!

I think I may have found the solution... I am still working on getting it to work:
[RESTRICTIONS-REMOVED] Samsung Health Monitor - WearOS - 1.1.3.002 - Root, Age, Country & Device Restriction Removed - 23rd May 2023
Hello Everyone, I hope you all are fine... ~~~ WearOS WATCHES ONLY ~~~ ~~~ FEATURES, BUGS & FUTURE WORKS~~~ FEATURES: Works on Samsung Watch4 and Watch5 (as mentioned Samsung WearOS Watches), Multilanguage, no root detection, no country...
forum.xda-developers.com
I will follow-up later on if I get it to actually work.

AkoreJepade said:
I think I may have found the solution... I am still working on getting it to work:
[RESTRICTIONS-REMOVED] Samsung Health Monitor - WearOS - 1.1.3.002 - Root, Age, Country & Device Restriction Removed - 23rd May 2023
Hello Everyone, I hope you all are fine... ~~~ WearOS WATCHES ONLY ~~~ ~~~ FEATURES, BUGS & FUTURE WORKS~~~ FEATURES: Works on Samsung Watch4 and Watch5 (as mentioned Samsung WearOS Watches), Multilanguage, no root detection, no country...
forum.xda-developers.com
I will follow-up later on if I get it to actually work.
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Yes that is the solution!

Yeah, just having a bit a time getting it to work... might not be compatible with Android 13 looking at the Youtube channel he has... which is what my Galaxy A52 is running. Plus I am not sure if you just use his new 2.0 SHM Mod companion app or if you have to follow all the original steps and then just use the new 2.0 for updates?

Good find! I'll give it a try in the morning!

It actually works and I have already checked my ECG and BP three times! Very cool!

It works!!! hi just to report that everything went smooth as silk on my S21 Ultra on android 13 SHealth(6.22.7.003) and GW5 wearOS 3.5, have BP and ECG working and synced thank you so much.

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Yeah, just having a bit a time getting it to work... might not be compatible with Android 13 looking at the Youtube channel he has... which is what my Galaxy A52 is running. Plus I am not sure if you just use his new 2.0 SHM Mod companion app or if you have to follow all the original steps and then just use the new 2.0 for updates?
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Yes, the companion app will notify you if an update is available. Then you turn back on ADB debugging and over wifi, then hit download and install, after turn off debug and over wifi.

Yeah everything works great! Very nice work he does.

inmortal009 said:
It works!!! hi just to report that everything went smooth as silk on my S21 Ultra on android 13 SHealth(6.22.7.003) and GW5 wearOS 3.5, have BP and ECG working and synced thank you so much.
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Could you please post the step by step process...

It's described better here. It's easy, step-by-step, but read the instructions more than once. https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-ecg-blood-pressure-monitoring-samsung-galaxy-watch-4/

Dante released an update to 1.1.1.227.. follow his thread for the watch 4 of n XDA.

I am a bit confused with the last step as where to place the watch.SHM.MOD file and in the command, it say "IP address", do I need to change that to my watch address? Got stuck at the last step

Locoman_ said:
It's described better here. It's easy, step-by-step, but read the instructions more than once. https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-enable-ecg-blood-pressure-monitoring-samsung-galaxy-watch-4/
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Is it for Galaxy Watch 5 or Watch 4?

BrunoMark said:
Is it for Galaxy Watch 5 or Watch 4?
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Both...

I just killed my Fossil Gen 6 trying to downgrade from WearOS 3 to Wear OS 2.xx
@galaxys
Can you guys tell me if the GW5 and the mod related should work on OxygenOS 13 (android 13) on a rooted Oneplus 8 Pro ? The lack of ECG and blood pressure measure would be a major nope to me
Thanks guys !

Neil_Armstrong_ said:
I just killed my Fossil Gen 6 trying to downgrade from WearOS 3 to Wear OS 2.xx
@galaxys
Can you guys tell me if the GW5 and the mod related should work on OxygenOS 13 (android 13) on a rooted Oneplus 8 Pro ? The lack of ECG and blood pressure measure would be a major nope to me
Thanks guys !
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That should work. You can check around the main fix thread to verify from the above Post #3 ....

galaxys said:
That should work. You can check around the main fix thread to verify from the above Post #3 ....
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Thanks for the tip
People reported it to work with Oneplus 7, 8 and 9 but with prior android version
Will try and see