Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
brockyneo said:
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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Are you sure your friend didn't say that usb would use the headunit dac instead? I know that works that way, usb c to usb into my headunit for direct file play using only the headunit dac not headunit dac+ phone dac. No, I can't see any adapters your talking about having built into dac.
I can also tell you that I can't use high res in poweramp through usb or UHQ upscaler in settings with usb audio. I prob won't use it much due to those reasons, or Bluetooth for poor audio quality and no uhq upscaler either. Leaving aux for being the best for audio on this phone.
brockyneo said:
Hi guys I was not too happy with the built in dac on the note 8 and a friend recommended buying a usb c to headphone adapter as apparently have there own dac built in so I bought the htc one http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/usb-c-digital-to-3-5mm/
And I don't know if I'm hearing things but it does sound louder with the adapter or am I just hearing it different?
My question is if it's true about these adapters having there own dac is there a better one the the htc obviously in a reasonable price range ive seen the one with the razor phone is ment to be good
And if this is the case I don't see the big fuss about looking the headphone jack if we can get great sound from the adapters lol
Thanks
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The moment you use the usb-c port to play your music, it bypasses the internal DAC. This is why ALL usb-c earbuds etc have their own DAC. I honestly doubt an adapter-DAC combo less than 10 pounds will outperform the DAC in the Note 8.
There is a major distinction between
1. How the DAC processes and shapes your music.
2. How 'powerful' it is and if it can handle high impedance headphones.
Seems to me that no. 2 is likely but definitely not no.1 with the adapter you linked.
It is well known that LOUDNESS(not volume) often comes across as BETTER quality sound.
Thanks guys I'm no audiophile I just wanted better and louder sound which the usb c headphone adapter seems (placebo maybe) do I've looked around on Amazon with a few of them claiming that they have decent dac built it
Do these dac in the adapters bypass the phone dac or something ?
Is that possible to use the type c to 3.5mm converter for 7 plus?
why?! you have 3,5 mm jack
I have a HTC Usb to 3.5mm adaptor that I used on my HTC U ultra and it works great with the Nokia 7 plus as well.
I think the audio is louder using the adaptor and better quality.
Danchibald said:
why?! you have 3,5 mm jack
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because the sound quality from the 3.5mm is so poor
I have huawei p20 headphones also with usb-c and these are better than anything else.
spender1 said:
I have a HTC Usb to 3.5mm adaptor that I used on my HTC U ultra and it works great with the Nokia 7 plus as well.
I think the audio is louder using the adaptor and better quality.
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Want to know does it worths to buy the adaptor just for sound quality improvement?
That's a difficult question as I always find audio a very personal thing.
I have just tried my Akg K451 headphones with both the audio jack on the phone and the HTC adaptor.
The HTC 3.5 mm adaptor is significantly louder than the audio jack at full volume. I notice some distortion in the audio jack that is absent on the HTC adaptor. I think the audio from the adaptor is fuller and far more pleasing to my ear.
I have no idea how these things work, for instance does the HTC adaptor have its own DAC or is it simply a pass through device? The difference in audio level would suggest to me the presence of its own DAC so maybe that would account for the difference in audio .
Maybe it's worth buying the adaptor just to drive certain headphones better. I have a pair of status audio headphones at home that I normally use with a headphone amp to drive them I will try them on the 7 plus later to see how they sound with the audio jack and the adaptor.
Sorry I can't be more definitive.
By the way the HTC adaptor is around £10 in the UK direct from HTC.
Is the sound quality and volume really that bad or is it just some specific/batch units?
I listen to a lot of audiobooks on the go and it would be a shame if this was a dealbreaker.
No I don't find the audio particularly bad and most of the time it is loud enough.
Most of the time I use the 3.5 jack and don't have a problem but when I'm sitting listening to music and doing nothing else I prefer the audio from my HTC adapter.
The volume will depend on the impeadence of the headphones used, my AKG headphones are always much louder than my status audio ones when used in the same device.
lhkakex said:
Is that possible to use the type c to 3.5mm converter for 7 plus?
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I think it can，I used a Xiaomi's type-c headset that can be used
Quite strangely, My Mi A2's USB-C to 3.5 adapter DOES NOT WORK with my Nokia 7+
So I have huawei cm33 usb type c earphones but when i plug them to the S21U it will give a notification saying device not recognized. Is there anyway to make them work? They work on huawei phones and tried them on oneplus also working. Such a disappointment that a 1500$ phone can't support wired earphones with type c
oae08 said:
So I have huawei cm33 usb type c earphones but when i plug them to the S21U it will give a notification saying device not recognized. Is there anyway to make them work? They work on huawei phones and tried them on oneplus also working. Such a disappointment that a 1500$ phone can't support wired earphones with type c
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You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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Is there an amazon link of one that works
Convert to wireless, you have a $1500 phone, you can donate those $20 earphones to someone whose broke and wants them
I wasn't sold on wireless buds until I got them for free with my pre-order, now I love them..
Maddmatt said:
Convert to wireless, you have a $1500 phone, you can donate those $20 earphones to someone whose broke and wants them
I wasn't sold on wireless buds until I got them for free with my pre-order, now I love them..
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I got the wireless buds pro also, but that's not my point. There are still some situations i would like to plug in my wired headphones.
oae08 said:
Is there an amazon link of one that works
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Amazon.com: Meizu MasterHIFI Audio D/A Converter Headphone Amplifier,USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter for Meizu 17 Pro Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra S20+ Z Flip Note20 ,Google Pixel 4 4a OnePlus 8 : Electronics
Amazon.com: Meizu MasterHIFI Audio D/A Converter Headphone Amplifier,USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter for Meizu 17 Pro Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra S20+ Z Flip Note20 ,Google Pixel 4 4a OnePlus 8 : Electronics
www.amazon.com
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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I got my adapter on Amazon for between $3-$5 and it works fine with my S21U (no problems from four different sets of wired headphones)... I'm thinking that this guy's headphones might have some type of device limitation.
*Edit* - Here's a link to the adapter that I have. Price has gone up (as the price has for everything in the past 4-5 months) and so now it's $10. But it does indeed work on my S21U (but funnily enough, it didn't work on my Pixel 3XL when I had originally purchased it two years back).
Check this video
oae08 said:
I got the wireless buds pro also, but that's not my point. There are still some situations i would like to plug in my wired headphones.
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Simply get the Samsung converter. It's output is via a 3.5mm jack though. I avoid using the C port for anything except charging and connecting to the PC to reduce wear. The bottom of the phone is a lousy place to have it for audio... born to die.
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
Riyal said:
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
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This is correct. I had forgotten about them but in the box was a factory included wired earbud set with a C port connector. They worked but they sucked. The 10+ made the connection automatically; simply go to settings to route the audio via the C port.
The problem arises if you need the 3.5mm jack.
Lame Sammy.
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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I had forgotten the about the included AKG wired earbuds with the 10+. I don't think they have a builtin DAC, they might. Latter I'll pull them and try to see what output the phone is making to them.
Samsung has always been less than forthcoming with their bloody specs. Cryptic be an accurate description... try finding specs for the SSC codec
See where that takes you before you finally realize the UHQ upscaler isn't available for bluetooth except on the Note 8 I believe it was. It's misleading at the best. You need to follow multiple Samsung links to finally route that out.
blackhawk said:
This is correct. I had forgotten about them but in the box was a factory included wired earbud set with a C port connector. They worked but they sucked. The 10+ made the connection automatically; simply go to settings to route the audio via the C port.
The problem arises if you need the 3.5mm jack.
Lame Sammy.
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Keyvannn said:
Check this video
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Riyal said:
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
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Thanks guys, but this might work on the S20/S10 etc because they have 3.5mm audio jack ALSO. but the S21 does not have and by default the option is already disabled on S21. unfortunately i double checked again and it still doesnt work
Does the external Usbc DAC like Audioquest dragonfly works?
abhi021 said:
Does the external Usbc DAC like Audioquest dragonfly works?
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Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
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Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
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Thanks.
The only bummer with UAPP and tidal is it doesn't support offline mode. N native tidal with external dac does not not support more than 48khz.
Where as I guess tidal on apple does support mqa from native tidal app
78apb said:
Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
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Is this confirmed...do this USB Dacs work with this device. I'm planning on buying the Meizu DAC since my generic Amazon USB DAC shows as unsupported USB when I plug it in...
amirage said:
Is this confirmed...do this USB Dacs work with this device. I'm planning on buying the Meizu DAC since my generic Amazon USB DAC shows as unsupported USB when I plug it in...
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Just received (a few hours ago) my E1DA DAC by Ivan
https://aliexpress.com/item/E1DA-9038D-USB-Headphone-Amp-DAC-HPA-with-3-5mm-Jack-Output/1005001593456096.html
works great with UAPP + Tidal, bit-perfect. Type C<> Type C cable is included, a bit shorty and hard, but it works.
78apb said:
Just received (a few hours ago) my E1DA DAC by Ivan
https://aliexpress.com/item/E1DA-9038D-USB-Headphone-Amp-DAC-HPA-with-3-5mm-Jack-Output/1005001593456096.html
works great with UAPP + Tidal, bit-perfect. Type C<> Type C cable is included, a bit shorty and hard, but it works.
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I'm seeing 2 comments about UAPP ...is it necessary to have this app to play music via USB C Dacs? Also, I'm more inclined towards Ztella DAC..but am scared to blow 99$ just to find that it's not supported by the phone...has anyone used this USB DAC?
amirage said:
I'm seeing 2 comments about UAPP ...is it necessary to have this app to play music via USB C Dacs? Also, I'm more inclined towards Ztella DAC..but am scared to blow 99$ just to find that it's not supported by the phone...has anyone used this USB DAC?
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1) ztella has a significant discount promo coupon code, just google it, many of them flying around. If IRR, 30% discount code available. $69 + shipping for MQA version, for example.
2) UAPP is necessary to get the full advantage of MQA and direct output. If you do not plan to use Tidal, you can use Neutron player instead, or Hiby Music app - or any app that support direct output to DAC (with the proper drivers built-in in that app, uapp just have a widest base of drivers and always works perfect, have frequent updates and decent interface).
Otherwise, you will listen to standard Android audio which is processed by the firmware and have nullified almost any advantage in the sound quality you paid for using DAC.
I just bought a USB type C-to-3.5mm adaptor (Xiaomi brand) and plugged into S21u using my existing earphones such as Sony, Realme and Huawei. None of them is working. It says "USB is not supported". I do not want to use Type C earphones as all my other mobiles and laptops use 3.5mm jack. Any solution?
The adapter must have an inboard DAC.
Newer Samsung phones output in digital only, no analog.
Use the Samsung C port/3.5 mm adapter.
Better yet get a pair of Buds+, at the very least you'll want them for calls.
Finally, got myself a basic type C earphone made by Samsung (costs 27 USD) rather than an adapter with built-in DAC. The sound is rich in mid and high but lacks bass compared to my existing 3.5mm earphones.
I had the same earphones, single driver, no bass at all, totally worthless. Replaced them with these which are very good. Samsung no longer offers them but can be found in South Korea on eBay. Contrary to the video the price is down to around $70 USD. Not as good as the 1MORE Quad Driver which requires an adapter.
Does anyone else have experience with replacing the USB to audio adaptor with an aftermarket dongle?
My USB to 3.5 mm earphone adaptor no longer works. If I firmly push the little cable into the base of the USB part of the dongle, the phone will very, very momentarily recognise a headphone (I have tried several sets of ear phones).
I just bought this off Amazon, but the phone does not recognise the earphones at all:
Rpanle USB C to 3.5 mm Jack Adapter, USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter, DAC Chip, for Samsung Galaxy, Huawei, OnePlus7 etc (Black): Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo
Free delivery and returns on eligible orders. Buy Rpanle USB C to 3.5 mm Jack Adapter, USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter, DAC Chip, for Samsung Galaxy, Huawei, OnePlus7 etc (Black) at Amazon UK.
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This new dongle does work in a Mi 8 Lite though. Which makes me wonder if there is a difference in the technology.
I have now just ordered this different one from eBay:
USB Type C to 3.5mm headphone Adapter Cable for Xiaomi Mi 8 Pro Lite SE Explorer | eBay
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I have to use specific in-ear earphones, which is why I have to use 3.5 mm jack
Make sense to anyone?