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[Q] Rooted Moto X, OTA update today causing boot loop

Hi, I used PwnMyMoto-1.4.3-TMobile.apk to get root on my T-mobile Moto X.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2444957
Today, there was an OTA update that downloaded and said it would install. Now the phone is stuck in a boot loop. It boots OK but about 45 seconds after loading it shuts down and reboots. I'm guessing its because the PwnMyMoto removed the stock recovery or altered it to be unable to install the OTA update. However I guess the phone still sees the downloaded OTA update and wants to install it, so it reboots the phone to try to install.
I can't post in the PwnMyMoto thread because I'm too new to XDA

I have froze the ota apk to try to prevent this

small update. I used the T-mobile bundle here to get stock recovery.img and put that on my phone (because PwnMyMoto removes it) and then the OTA update installed. I guess instead I could have removed the downloaded update if I knew where it was!! After the OTA I lost root
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php

emerica243 said:
I have froze the ota apk to try to prevent this
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what do you mean by this? Can you tell me how to do that?

jackashe said:
what do you mean by this? Can you tell me how to do that?
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Freezing a particular app can be done using Titanium Backup. Its available for download on play store. Titanium Backup requires root permissions. Freezing an app will leave the app on your phone but it wont work cuz its frozen lol... the app wont be uninstalled. this way if you decide later that you need the app then you can just unfreeze it and use it.

OK, I have TB and I know it supports freeze. I didn't realize you could freeze the OTA capability as a separate program. However given that I already downloaded the update, its too late to freeze.

jackashe said:
small update. I used the T-mobile bundle here to get stock recovery.img and put that on my phone (because PwnMyMoto removes it) and then the OTA update installed. I guess instead I could have removed the downloaded update if I knew where it was!! After the OTA I lost root
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php
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sorry if i or many people would have seeen this earlier we could have stopped you. Always be patient next time because you may have lost root forever now. Not that we know a patch will come through to allow us to maintain root in 4.3, but jcase said he proabbly wouldn't make a rot for 4.3 because it could be a pain and he doens't want to waste any of the exploits he knows of. You could always figure out a way your phone is bad and go exchange it and root again and don't take OTA until someone has figured out something to do to maintain root. It would be worth it for me.

You always have the option to unlock your bootloader with the T-Mobile version. I plan on unlocking the Dev edition I will be buying and then buying a SquareTrade warranty and that will cover any issues I might ever have including breaking/water damage.
jackashe said:
small update. I used the T-mobile bundle here to get stock recovery.img and put that on my phone (because PwnMyMoto removes it) and then the OTA update installed. I guess instead I could have removed the downloaded update if I knew where it was!! After the OTA I lost root
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/ghost_rcica/list.php
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FSRBIKER said:
You always have the option to unlock your bootloader with the T-Mobile version. I plan on unlocking the Dev edition I will be buying and then buying a SquareTrade warranty and that will cover any issues I might ever have including breaking/water damage.
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Yup I almost unlocked the boot loader but instead I was able to flash stock recovery. I wish android itself was smart enough to not try to install OTA when recovery was gone. I finally read through the jcase thread and I think I might have been able to delete the downloaded OTA by running:
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fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
But I didn't try that. I also don't know what exactly that would have erased.
I will certainly look into a SquareTrade warranty!

Argh, I'm having the same problem. I have a Sprint version with unlocked bootloader and PwnMyMoto 1.1. Began after OTA update today. I have about 20 seconds after booting up that I'm able to do things on the phone before it goes into a loop; I've tried uninstalling the camera and disabling the gallery, which I thought were the two things that were updated. Safe mode doesn't work, nor does trying to enter recovery through fastboot. I've even tried factory resetting the phone from settings, but it can't do this before the power-down process begins. I haven't had any success with working through adb and the command prompt on this phone (device not found). At this point, I'm SOL and out of ideas with a bricked phone. Any other ideas?
UPDATE... Tried the fastboot erase cache & userdata; essentially performed a hard reset of device. Not the most convenient thing, but at least I have a working phone now.

so if we freeze updater and ota, we should be covered?
not sure about the other suspect apk with is fota.apk. I rename otacerts.apk as well. I may be a little paranoid about this but bricking is definitely not an option

jayboyyyy said:
sorry if i or many people would have seeen this earlier we could have stopped you. Always be patient next time because you may have lost root forever now. Not that we know a patch will come through to allow us to maintain root in 4.3, but jcase said he proabbly wouldn't make a rot for 4.3 because it could be a pain and he doens't want to waste any of the exploits he knows of. You could always figure out a way your phone is bad and go exchange it and root again and don't take OTA until someone has figured out something to do to maintain root. It would be worth it for me.
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Yeah, root is great... I guess I'll just have to keep fingers crossed that jcase works on 4.2.2 post OTA but since it hasn't even been pushed to all carriers maybe it won't happen. Yes, I should have NOT gotten the OTA, but once it had downloaded my phone was totally unusable until I restored recovery and it installed itself.

jackashe said:
Yeah, root is great... I guess I'll just have to keep fingers crossed that jcase works on 4.2.2 post OTA but since it hasn't even been pushed to all carriers maybe it won't happen. Yes, I should have NOT gotten the OTA, but once it had downloaded my phone was totally unusable until I restored recovery and it installed itself.
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Curious have you tried to reroot, and for future reference I believe ota are usually in cache under the previous build # for Verizon at least.

shane1 said:
Curious have you tried to reroot, and for future reference I believe ota are usually in cache under the previous build # for Verizon at least.
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I did try rooting again using PwnMyMoto-1.4.3-TMobile.apk but it failed to install (since one of the exploits it used is patched)
I have t-Mobile but how would I get to the cache? My phone would boot for about 45 seconds and in that time-frame I could adb shell into the phone but could not find the path for the OTA update. Do you mean it would be in /cache/some-build/ or so?

Yes in cache and you would have to attempt from a PC , which might not have been possible because the phone kept rebooting. Also I am sry for your loss

Would ota root keeper do anything for us?
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IncredibleHulk6 said:
Argh, I'm having the same problem. I have a Sprint version with unlocked bootloader and PwnMyMoto 1.1. Began after OTA update today. I have about 20 seconds after booting up that I'm able to do things on the phone before it goes into a loop; I've tried uninstalling the camera and disabling the gallery, which I thought were the two things that were updated. Safe mode doesn't work, nor does trying to enter recovery through fastboot. I've even tried factory resetting the phone from settings, but it can't do this before the power-down process begins. I haven't had any success with working through adb and the command prompt on this phone (device not found). At this point, I'm SOL and out of ideas with a bricked phone. Any other ideas?
UPDATE... Tried the fastboot erase cache & userdata; essentially performed a hard reset of device. Not the most convenient thing, but at least I have a working phone now.
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Can you please tell me how you did this? Thanks in advance

Perhaps this thread helps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46179190#post46179190

Erk, after getting into the same post-Root update loop, I flashed back to stock using the recipe here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46175635&postcount=8
I now have 13.9.0Q2.X-116-X-17-51 installed.
When I go to System updates to update to the OTA update 13.0Q2.X-116-X-17-54, I get told that I am already updated to the latest version.
Any help would be much appreciated!
jayboyyyy said:
sorry if i or many people would have seeen this earlier we could have stopped you. Always be patient next time because you may have lost root forever now. Not that we know a patch will come through to allow us to maintain root in 4.3, but jcase said he proabbly wouldn't make a rot for 4.3 because it could be a pain and he doens't want to waste any of the exploits he knows of. You could always figure out a way your phone is bad and go exchange it and root again and don't take OTA until someone has figured out something to do to maintain root. It would be worth it for me.
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manfly9884 said:
Can you please tell me how you did this? Thanks in advance
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You have to make sure you have downloaded & installed the Android SDK and the latest Motorola Android drivers to your computer. On your phone, shut it down before it has the chance to re-enter the boot loop cycle. Then press the down button simultaneously with the power button for a few seconds and release the down button a split second before releasing the power button. This enters the bootloader (you may have to try it a few times to get it). Plug your phone into the computer and open a command prompt on the computer; type "fastboot erase cache", hit enter, type " fastboot erase userdata" and hit enter. You'll see confirmation in the command prompt and your phone will reboot as factory reset.

[Q] Turn off OTA

Hey -
Please help! I received my M8 last night rooted. As soon as I finished I keep getting the system update is ready message. Can anyone please let me know how to turn this off please? It is driving me crazy.
Thanks!

Kinda related. Just got my M8 got it rooted and s-off. I don't want to take the update and lose root correct? I just flash a rom and I'm good to go, correct? Or was there firmware on the update? TI A
Swiped from my EVO with RooT privileges

robbo10 said:
Kinda related. Just got my M8 got it rooted and s-off. I don't want to take the update and lose root correct? I just flash a rom and I'm good to go, correct? Or was there firmware on the update? TI A
Swiped from my EVO with RooT privileges
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There was new firmware with the recent OTA.

If I take it will I loss root?
Swiped from my EVO with RooT privileges

robbo10 said:
If I take it will I loss root?
Swiped from my EVO with RooT privileges
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No need to take an OTA if you are s-off...1 of the many advantages

Turning off automatic updates
firstbenz said:
Hey -
Please help! I received my M8 last night rooted. As soon as I finished I keep getting the system update is ready message. Can anyone please let me know how to turn this off please? It is driving me crazy.
Thanks!
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Yes, can anyone answer the question? My s-off phone keeps wanting to take the OTA update and there seems to be no place to turn off automatically checking for OTA updates. How do I get it to quit trying to update?

Flash an updated rom

[Q] Stop OTA installation of G900A OC4 from AT&T

I currently have a rooted stock 4.4.4 on my S5 (G900A) along with xposed framework. Two days ago, AT&T downloaded the Lollipop OC4 rom and since then it has been prompting me to let it install the downloaded update. I have been telling it not to since from what I gathered I will be losing root and there is currently no way to root the OTA OC4 for G900A.
Problem: Today, the OTA update popped up again and said it will automatically install the update in 30 seconds whether or not if I want it, which prompted me to turn the phone off. Turning the phone back on results in the same results in the same autoupdate in 30 seconds prompt in less than a minute after the boot up. How can I stop the OTA from pushing itself through at this point so I can stay on the 4.4.4 with root. Note that the phone is still on warranty and the Knox is not tripped and I don't want to trip it either.
I have reversed the Xposed overwrite for the status so now the phone is no longer showing official but custom instead both during the power up and in the device menu. I have also rebooted into recovery and cleared cache. Neither one of them prevented the OTA from telling me that it will auto update in 30 seconds at the following reboot.
Can someone help me stop this OTA so I can keep my current 4.4.4 with root?
Thanks

YasharF said:
I currently have a rooted stock 4.4.4 on my S5 (G900A) along with xposed framework. Two days ago, AT&T downloaded the Lollipop OC4 rom and since then it has been prompting me to let it install the downloaded update. I have been telling it not to since from what I gathered I will be losing root and there is currently no way to root the OTA OC4 for G900A.
Problem: Today, the OTA update popped up again and said it will automatically install the update in 30 seconds whether or not if I want it, which prompted me to turn the phone off. Turning the phone back on results in the same results in the same autoupdate in 30 seconds prompt in less than a minute after the boot up. How can I stop the OTA from pushing itself through at this point so I can stay on the 4.4.4 with root. Note that the phone is still on warranty and the Knox is not tripped and I don't want to trip it either.
I have reversed the Xposed overwrite for the status so now the phone is no longer showing official but custom instead both during the power up and in the device menu. I have also rebooted into recovery and cleared cache. Neither one of them prevented the OTA from telling me that it will auto update in 30 seconds at the following reboot.
Can someone help me stop this OTA so I can keep my current 4.4.4 with root?
Thanks
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Just freeze the software update thing with TiBu
Sent from my SM-G900A using Tapatalk

If your rooted I'm pretty sure the ota will fail anyways...then do like @Rakuu said and freeze the Att software update app so it doesn't bug you about the update.

Rakuu said:
Just freeze the software update thing with TiBu
Sent from my SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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What is the name of the software update thing? Exact name? Assuming that it may not fail and may push through I only get a 30 sec window to do it and reboot.

nutt_case said:
If your rooted I'm pretty sure the ota will fail anyways...then do like @Rakuu said and freeze the Att software update app so it doesn't bug you about the update.
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I don't want to risk finding out the hard way that it pushed through. What exactly is the name of the item that I need to freeze?

YasharF said:
I don't want to risk finding out the hard way that it pushed through. What exactly is the name of the item that I need to freeze?
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Therws no finding out the hard way, it will fail. Its called att software update or something, the icon is a white and red arrow pointing opposite directions, i'd check for you but im on a tmobile rom so i dont have it. Just turn on airplane mode and it should prevent it from downloading.
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Rakuu said:
Therws no finding out the hard way, it will fail. Its called att software update or something, the icon is a white and red arrow pointing opposite directions, i'd check for you but im on a tmobile rom so i dont have it. Just turn on airplane mode and it should prevent it from downloading.
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You missed my question. The update has already downloaded and gone through 2 days of grace period. Now it is giving 30 sec to force install itself, not to force download. I know the download fails if the device is in custom state instead of official state, and I am at a point beyond your experience.

Can someone with AT&T Rom please help me identify what exactly the item that I need to freeze is called? Thanks.

YasharF said:
Can someone with AT&T Rom please help me identify what exactly the item that I need to freeze is called? Thanks.
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Att software update
@Rakuu is correct though, if your status is custom update will fail.

nutt_case said:
Att software update
@Rakuu is correct though, if your status is custom update will fail.
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Sweet! Thank you I just did a quick reboot and with Titanium Backup Pro froze it, and did a reboot. Although the force update gave me the 30 sec warning while I was trying to navigate Titanium Backup, I did not get a notification after freezing it and rebooting. Now, I got to play the waiting game and hope that one of the devs can figure out how to root OC4 / stock Lollipop on S5 G900A.

YasharF said:
Sweet! Thank you I just did a quick reboot and with Titanium Backup Pro froze it, and did a reboot. Although the force update gave me the 30 sec warning while I was trying to navigate Titanium Backup, I did not get a notification after freezing it and rebooting. Now, I got to play the waiting game and hope that one of the devs can figure out how to root OC4 / stock Lollipop on S5 G900A.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3076803
If your looking to get on rooted 5.0 then you can follow the above thread...it will also not update the bootloader so you can still downgrade if needed.

The update will not install if you're rooted, but the process is just annoying as ever. If you've frozen the updater apk with Titanium BackUp then you'll be fine. I froze that back in October of 2014 and haven't been bothered since. Every so often a security notice flashes in the statusbar but nothing else.

Update for LG G4 T-Mo, have root.

So, I have a rooted G4 with Tmo, however I have been receiving an alert to update my device for the last few days, but am not sure what to do. The alert isn't going away and its annoying. What can I do?

Download titanium backup and freeze update app.

What's the update app, what if it isn't visible in tb?

XDDavie said:
So, I have a rooted G4 with Tmo, however I have been receiving an alert to update my device for the last few days, but am not sure what to do. The alert isn't going away and its annoying. What can I do?
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In TiBu:
Freeze -
com.tmobile.pr.adapt
In Root Explorer -
system/pri-app/
LGUpdateCenter.apk changed to
LGUpdateCenter.apk.bak
system/app/LTDDM/
LTDDM.apk changed to
LTDDM.apk.bak

You should probably figure out how to apply the update because it makes the phone 1000000% better. You can root it again after you update it or just update it using a rooted image and save some time.

willshep said:
You should probably figure out how to apply the update because it makes the phone 1000000% better. You can root it again after you update it or just update it using a rooted image and save some time.
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Agreed.
After updating to 10N, you can then block future OTA Updates via my previous post.
I updated to 10N using this method. Works great:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-g4/development/rom-g4-h811-10n-stock-rooted-rom-t3188858

so the update you have been receiving was or is for 10n? if so then just flash the 10n xtreme rom from micromod and you will be all set for it includes tweaks and no more ota surprises too

The update isn't working for me. I used the "Low Effort Root," and I may have made a half-hearted attempt at blocking OTA, but I keep getting prompted for the update.
Accepting it causes the phone to to reboot and try to install, but then it just says "Error" and hangs. After a few minutes, it reboots, and I am still at H81110h.
Any ideas? I like the idea of low effort, and not flashing another ROM. I would rather just take the update, and re-root if needed.

Android system update?

I am rooted and unlocked, but today I received a "System Update Downloaded" notification, and it only gives me an option to install it now or later.
If I install it, will it break root? Do I even want to install it? If not, how do I get rid of it?

It's the February 2016 Security Update. (These come out every month.) I usually wait a little bit and someone will release a recovery-flashable ZIP that will bring you up to date safely.

a.demarco said:
I am rooted and unlocked, but today I received a "System Update Downloaded" notification, and it only gives me an option to install it now or later.
If I install it, will it break root? Do I even want to install it? If not, how do I get rid of it?
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you can not install it being rooted and with twrp recovery, no matter how hard you try. you can flash part of the factory image, then reroot if youd like though.

Thanks! Any way to get rid of the annoying notification?

a.demarco said:
Thanks! Any way to get rid of the annoying notification?
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yes. long press on the notifications, then find the way to turn off that notification, the option will be there.

a.demarco said:
Thanks! Any way to get rid of the annoying notification?
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what build are you currently in? thats only gonna prompt if ur still on the january ota

reyscott1968 said:
what build are you currently in? thats only gonna prompt if ur still on the january ota
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im with februarys. i didnt know that it changed, did it, are you sure?

simms22 said:
im with februarys. i didnt know that it changed, did it, are you sure?
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its only gonna happen if its a january build. not february... when i was on january build there was a small update around 8mb even tho im already was on the january stock build
i posted a screenshot on a stock based rom about the said update. just cant find it. but it eas discussed on hecknotechno's thread

I am on 29s...

Come one guys. Follow the rules. These questions get asked and answered every month with these updates. Please follow the rules and search before opening a new thread.