[CLOSED][LOS 18.1] Real System Optimization - Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC Themes, Apps, and Mods

Hello there,
It's me again ...
What's New ?
Well ... I have made a full package for LineageOS 18.1 to take you in the next level !
Features
- Full ramdisk optimization : reworked from scratch (of course)
=>
. improve CPU/GPU & Memory management
. no lags, no freeze & no random reboot
. super smooth UX
. thermal protection : no throttling & no more overheating ... unless if you are a heavy gamer !
. ultra powersaving mode in deep-sleep
- improve also :
. Wi-Fi connectvity (screen-off playback)
. Camera in low-light
. Sound/Video recording
- Faster FP scanner
- Stock offline charging animation
- SafetyNet Fix included
F.A.Q :
Q/ using this mod the first time ?
A/ you format /data partition ... unless if you have flashed the SafetyNet fix already !
Q/ do i have to reinstall everytime i update my LOS ?
A/ yes, because it's not a Magisk module, otherwise the build fingerprint in /data will have a conflict with your LOS one , and the system will crash !
THIS IS A MOD THREAD
A.K.A
SYSTEM MODIFICATION
THE MAIN GOAL
IS
PERFECTION
THIS IS AN ADVANCED MOD LIKE YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE
DON'T TRY TO CHANGE SOMETHING BY YOURSELF :
EACH PARAMETER IS RELATED TO ANOTHER ONE
" TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT "
&
DON'T COPY WITHOUT PERMISSION
***
TROLLS & NOOBS
STAY AWAY PLEASE
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Reserved
2021-10-17 Highly Recommended
- let cleanup some trash = remove "XiaomiParts" :
. heavy battery eater in the background even if it is disabled [Proximity Sensor = always ON !!!]
. framework badly implemented by LineageOS : the handwave gesture was dropped a long time ago by many OEMs (Google included) ... and it's not working here after a deep-sleep ! (check by yourself)
- msm_irqbalance.conf : tiny update / huge effect
- disable scoped storage aka "fuse" = bring back sdcardfs alive !
Your phone will restart itself once, due to the virtualization switch from fuse to sdcardfs ... so don't worry ! Enjoy
2021-10-16
- initial release

gringo80 said:
Q/ using this mod the first time ?
A/ you format /data partition
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Sorry for noob question, is this for new LOS installation only? Won't I loose my current apps if I format data with my current LOS?

sturges said:
Sorry for noob question, is this for new LOS installation only? Won't I loose my current apps if I format data with my current LOS?
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Yes, but if you have already applied this SafetyNet Fix : No ! (This is the main reason)

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Soon change acc to paradox

gringo80 said:
2021-10-17
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- disable scoped storage aka " fuse" = bring back sdcardfs alive !
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Does this means full read/write access to externalSD/USB-OTG? Cause it doesn't fully work on a different Xiaomi device I own (also on LOS)...

pnin said:
Does this means full read/write access to externalSD/USB-OTG? Cause it doesn't fully work on a different Xiaomi device I own (also on LOS)...
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Yes ... and i have made also a Magisk module for this, not limited to POCO X3 [NFC] but all devices with A11 !
Check the specific thread for more information !

gringo80 said:
Yes ... and i have made also a Magisk module for this, not limited to POCO X3 [NFC] but all devices with A11 !
Check the specific thread for more information !
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I see, thanks; so it's only for A11. Bummer!
Was expecting it to finally solve a problem I am having with another device, which is running A10 (more info at your module thread).

** WARNING LONG POST **
I spent some time to review this.
There are two replaced executables:
- charger
- init
The charger binary is replaced for the offline charging animation, i believe. But i didn't diffed with official charger bin as author do not disclose which MIUI it comes from. So it might be original or it might be modified i don't know.
The init replacement is more critical, probably related to the safetynet fix, but i would be personally concerned to run such binary on my phone unless full source to it is released by author.
All the main props files have been modified and a few things come to my attention.
The build is still abused as "official lineageOS build" by buildkite and such, which it is not at this point, so this would be a concern, even if more an ethical one, since people could report issues as "official" build while it's not an official build anymore.
Also, quite a few graphical props are changed / enabled when they have been not enabled on purpose on official build for stability concerns. So YMMV, but you could get crashes.
All build fingerprints have been changed with respect to official, which is probably related to the safetynet fix. This might lead to problems when Google will change things again, and users of this mod will probably have troubles using magisk or any other safetynet fix unless clean flash again. This patch does also change your crypto keys and make your data lost. But this has been advertised by the author, so you know.
There are a lot of modified init rc files, going trough them all is difficult here, but a few things come to my attention.
In a few files security permissions have been relaxed. Some additional permissions have been granted to camera, audio and other subsystems, the reason for this should be explained.
Also quite some /sys and /dev nodes permissions have been changed to make them less secure.
Systemwide stats collection and tuning have been altered in various places, again i see no direct reason for this.
It is my overall impression that the author took some init file from a different device and/or BSP and kind of copied it on the official ones. Not clear to what purpose.
There are massive changes to the mount schema and procedures, probably linked to the removal of "scoped storage", which is there for a reason so YMMV to accepting this change, specially if it is so widespread in the system.
There are lots of small tuning to CPU and governor, there is messing up with the nice levels and file descriptors, something which should not taken lightly and probably would need deep testing on some benchmark to prove that they actually work beside the placebo effect.
Moving on.
The media profiles, audio codecs and settings, have been modified with at least a couple of changes that are known for having caused issues with various apps in the past.
This is more or less the most of it. I have spent way too much time on this analysis at this point, but i did it as this might impact directly the support i give to the community on official LineageOS 18.1 for surya if anybody flashes it and then report issues.
I can see some improvements which would be good for official build too like some cleanup of probably useless init stuff (leftovers from davinci or generic sm6150) and such.
Unfortunately, providing one mega-patch like this with no underlying github repository to track changes and meaningful commit history to justify each one of them make this entire work useless, which is a pity. I strongly suggest the author to read up how to contribute to the android development community so that the good in his work can actually be of benefit for everybody, as he benefitted from the work of many like we all have.
I have also seen various lines that are actually authorship by somebody else, i suggest the author to spend some time identifying them and, after creating a repository for the patch, repo-pick those patches with the correct metadata. This is a time consuming activity, but a necessary one, as you all can understand, so that a real community can function. Just to be clear: it's the duty of who publish stuff to ensure it does not infringe others authorship's, not the other way around.
I suggest the author (i mean the real person behind his many accounts) to understand how the open source android development community works so that the good in his work can be actually benefit the community. There is good in his doing, it's only the ways that make it difficult to be actually used.
(note: i crossposted this on the official LOS for surya thread as well, because this is also related to that thread and might cause issues for users there)

STAY AWAY FROM THIS MOD!! I just flashed it in my LOS install and my phone was instantly bricked! I couldn't reboot back into LOS after the official update today! All my data is lost, i have to do a full restore via miflash then install LOS again. I'll never use this mod again!

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Read OP in RED COLOR !
I don't understand, people don't like this work and keep coming from everywhere.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU ALL ... NOT WITH ME. I DIDN'T INVITE ANYONE.
THIS IS NOT A MANDATORY VACCINE !​
To any troll here,
Any fake issue ... your comment will be reported. So don't waste your time with me.
Thanks

gringo80 said:
Read OP in RED COLOR !
I don't understand, people don't like this work and keep coming from everywhere.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU ALL ... NOT WITH ME. I DIDN'T INVITE ANYONE.
THIS IS NOT A MANDATORY VACCINE !​
To any troll here,
Any fake issue ... your comment will be reported. So don't waste your time with me.
Thanks
by gringo80,
THE GOD OF CREATION
All rights reserved © 2021
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You made my day, ROTFL
And i am still waiting for a technical reply to my questions.

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1. Can you share the source code for your modified init binary?
2. Can you detail the reason for the various relax of security and permissions in your patch?
3. Why are you forcing "official" build status in the props within the mod, if this will not be an "official" build after your mod is applied?
4. Why did you changed the build fingerprints?
5. To what end did you changed stats collection stuff in your patch?
6. Which is the source from you took the various init scripts modifications? Is it stock? BSP? A different device? Or they all your work?
7. Why did you removed the "scoped storage"?
8. Do you have benchmarks and/or screenshots proving actual improvements with your patch applied?
9. why don't you organize your work so that it can be of benefit to the community?
10. Have you checked if any of this work has previous authorship?
There you go, these are more or less all the questione for you.

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Task ICS ROM for Galaxy Tab

I noticed a few forum requests for Task's last ICS ROM for the Tab 10.1
here is a link MOD EDIT links removed
thanks to Task for his time and effort on this
Did you ask permission of Task before posting a mirror?
You've just broken XDA rules. I see a ban coming very soon for you. Take this down. You did not even ask permission and i didn't even give it to you. This is ridiculous. You cant just going around taking someone's work and posting it around here dude.
Links removed and infractions given.
Read the rules
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Can you share only the front flash fix please and also the link that you share is not working thanks in advance
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Download link not working enlace de descarga no funciona revisa por favor.
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this fix was not you that did, and you were not allowed to use it. the real developer name is @Bode327
@MikeChannon
gabrielunm said:
Add IT in xlm file of camera.
system/cameradate/camera-feacture-v8.xml
Or use IT magisk module
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YYGa2S2UlcQekO6JZSLq9XScBH4W1KDQ/view?usp=drivesdk
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Man, you did not solve any problem, you are using third party material to gain advantage, In your YouTube video where you explain downgrade from oreo to nougat. the script and the rom that you are using are mine, because the error 11 I left on purpose. Be a man and take or give credit to devs.
[email protected] said:
this fix was not you that did, and you were not allowed to use it. the real developer name is @Bode327
@MikeChannon
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It's true who did was Bode327.
First of all, the MAGISK module that you have published as your own was created by me, according to the rules, to be able to promote and use, you should have given credits and thanks to me!
Whois the Developer for Rom Optimized Oreo V6 for J7p?
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NiCaARRecho said:
Whois the Developer for Rom Optimized Oreo V6 for J7p?
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Yes
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[CLOSED] [Discussion] TheRagingBeast Kernel: A totally baised community

I joined trb telegram gp and was totally amazed with the charging speed 2000-2100ma consistent at any temp. Then after a while noticed temp rises to whoping 47-48C contantly. Then I compared trb to pbh in the group in this good manner
Trb= Fast charging with 47C temp
Any other kernal= Ok charge speed with temp 43C max(in pb*). The trade off are equivalent trb not so gr8 as I thought.. Then a member told bb is not good then i shared charging speed of pbh in response to an admin telling pbh is bad(yes an admin talked and continue chat about pbh after all he is admin) vai screenshot and got fban immediately yes just shared the pic and after that fban from the group no warning no rules at all. Once in PE I was using no username so the admin warned me twice and third time they gave me 5 min. See the difference totally baised community even trb is closed sourced that's why thier thread is closed. And their every download link has tons and tons of ads.
BTW my thanks meter is just 1 cuz never asked anyone
TRB CLOSED THREAD LINK go and see what moderate reason were for closer https://forum.xda-developers.com/asus-zenfone-max-pro-m1/development/kernel-theragingbeast-derpgang-t3862835/page6
They were redirecting to telegram gp so that they can monetize vai their ****ty download links
XDA is not a place to discuss about Telegram groups, whether the group is good, or bad.
Okay
1. Why dont u ask other kernel cookers to get such speed
2. So when u r noob lemme tell asus P blobs are also responsible for heat, so go and complain about it to asus
3. When u share ss of our group u may need to provide proof of other kernels too. Common sense
4. Our thread was closed by mods because we didn't provide source because it was reported by so called m1 devs. So when u r not aware of such things dont try to get involved.
5. You are not forced to use this or that kernel infact roms too. No need to post such useless **** like this on xda platform.
6. Urs concerns barely effect us because we work based on our satisfaction not yours.
7. Try to learn about kernel before placing such useless **** like battery performance. We gave freedom to users to set what they want
8. Finally u say above ton community biased ??? I left to ur wisdom this one.
Thanks
Don't bring outside matters into XDA.
1. This is not the right platform to discuss this.
2. Never compare any ROM/Kernel... Developers make things according to their liking and they do not get paid for this.
Dude xda is xda and telegram is telegram.
Don't ever refer other platforms for issues here.
Also did you pay the developer to build a specific piece of software for you? If you didn't then you can't complain what they give you for free. If you use their software then thank them for giving their services for free.
Also no two developers are same TRB Developers can make their kernel as they want they did not came to you, you used their product for free.
If you like Pbh then be happy and don't compare kernels and roms each have their own set of modifications and features.
If you face a issue with any software which is free to you, you can only suggest the developer hoping it gets fixed. You can not demand anything from them according to your likings.
If you want everything you want hire developers and then you can have whatever you want. But if you use free stuff be grateful and thankful.
You bought the device from Asus and paid them go and complain to their devs don't cry on xda and telegram.
Hope this clears things up and teaches you what android developers do for you.
See the attachment first.
z1_nile said:
Dude xda is xda and telegram is telegram.
Don't ever refer other platforms for issues here.
Also did you pay the developer to build a specific piece of software for you? If you didn't then you can't complain what they give you for free. If you use their software then thank them for giving their services for free.
Also no two developers are same TRB Developers can make their kernel as they want they did not came to you, you used their product for free.
If you like Pbh then be happy and don't compare kernels and roms each have their own set of modifications and features.
If you face a issue with any software which is free to you, you can only suggest the developer hoping it gets fixed. You can not demand anything from them according to your likings.
If you want everything you want hire developers and then you can have whatever you want. But if you use free stuff be grateful and thankful.
You bought the device from Asus and paid them go and complain to their devs don't cry on xda and telegram.
Hope this clears things up and teaches you what android developers do for you.
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If you read correctly the whole thing is how they banned me and how they reacted when I asked for justification
Hello,
As per our rule 15, this thread topic is irrelevant to this section.
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Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is that your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting.
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12.2. Courtesy - While most of the work released on our site falls under the umbrella of open source, that is not the only license model being used by developers on xda-developers. In order to prevent problems, we ask that if you decide to base your work on someone else's that you check the license model being used (as it might not be as permissive as one may think);
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Question about Fox2Code's FoxMagiskModuleManager

hello, here is a problem with fox manager
message "Failed to access root or magisk"
how to correct thank you not find in search
I know why these magisk which have lost rooting, in magisk I have not available and on zygysk the same I no longer remember the manipulation to do to correct this.
I got the wrong subject it's in magisk I should have posted
meric57 said:
hello, here is a problem with fox manager
message "Failed to access root or magisk"
how to correct thank you not find in search...
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I get the same error. Root is fine, though. All installed modules are not (late edit) listed properly in the modules tab.
m0han said:
I get the same error. Root is fine, though. All installed modules are listed properly in the modules tab.
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The issue persists with the 'large maintenance update' 0.6.2. Does anyone know a workaround for this? Root is fine otherwise. Installed modules are not listed, though.
Hello m0han, the first time I had the update of the fox manager same concern. The update days no longer concern magisk in place root ok, see when I turn it off whether magisk root jumps or not.
meric57 said:
.... the first time I had the update of the fox manager same concern. The update days no more concern...
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I'll check with upcoming releases
Màhan ,reboot my S10 after misa days message in red as you is magisk off
can be escalated to the developer of fox’s application manager. he must have a way to fix this problem no. I have essential root no backup in this application, can be with the magisk boot image by reflashing direct with essential root the application.
XDA mods can be funny. Like when they do a job without being asked to and leave it half-done.
Why was a thread created in my name without my consent?
Why are these posts allowed to stand?
This was the starter: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87344169
Another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87384473
This too: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87344607
My posts, if OT, could have been deleted.
Delete this thread. @Timmmmaaahh!, @Oswald Boelcke
m0han said:
XDA mods can be funny. Like when they do a job without being asked to and leave it half-done.
Why was a thread created in my name without my consent?
Why are these posts allowed to stand?
This was the starter: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87344169
Another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87384473
This too: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87344607
My posts, if OT, could have been deleted.
Delete this thread. @Timmmmaaahh!, @Oswald Boelcke
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So... Not haha-funny?
I'm a bit lost on what we did wrong in your opinion. As you're publicly shaming us (while we always respond to PMs), might as well throw it all on the table. I'm all for transparency. I don't see any impersonation via those links but I'm on mobile right now, perhaps I'm missing something. Feel free to elaborate.
Timmmmaaahh! said:
So... Not haha-funny?
I'm a bit lost on what we did wrong in your opinion. As you're publicly shaming us (while we always respond to PMs), might as well throw it all on the table. I'm all for transparency. I don't see any impersonation via those links but I'm on mobile right now, perhaps I'm missing something. Feel free to elaborate.
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I've already asked @Bill720 to provide more information to @m0han as Bill was the one who moved the post out of a thread and instead created a new thread out of this post. Please let me know if you like more information privately.
@m0han Mam, Sir! I hope you agree that we don't require your consent at all if a post by you created in whatever thread is converted to an own thread. You voluntarily decided to post information on XDA but it's solely on the XDA staff to decide where the correct location for your post is. I'm convinced you're going to receive more information by @Bill720 but due to his real life I'm aware about it might last 4 - 5 days. Fell free to privately contact Bill 720.
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Timmmmaaahh! said:
... might as well throw it all on the table. I'm all for transparency. I don't see any impersonation via those links....
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Oswald Boelcke said:
.... we don't require your consent at all if a post by you created in whatever thread is converted to an own thread....
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wow! didn't know you guys would make the conversion selectively.
the post that started it all, the one i quoted to make my post in the first place, is not moved.
there was another post by @Stillhard where he called me (and maybe @meric57) 'mad' and asked for another thread to be created, which is now 'mia' on xda. i suppose @Bill720 created the thread based on that post.
isn't @Stillhard's out-of-context post offending? clearly, he wasn't offering any help or guidance. wasn't he 'publicly abusing' us, as opposed to my so-called 'shaming you'? was my post deleted (ss 04) 'cos this was the post @Stillhard quoted to call me (and @meric57) 'mad'?
hope it's not too much to expect you guys to do a fairer and cleaner clean-up.
m0han said:
hope it's not too much to expect you guys to do a fairer and cleaner clean-up.
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Mam, Sir!
I've to admit I'm "surprised" that you intended to discuss this event publicly although as you've pinged us @Timmmmaaahh! and I were well known to you. Due to your ping, I even released an at that point obviously closed information, informed you who (@Bill720) handled your post and suggest you to contact him. For whatever reason you decided to stay public and to belittle our moderation and moderators' capability as my partially quote above shows.
I'm just now 3 1/2 years into the moderation business at XDA, and if you monitored me my moderation style has changed over the years and months - something that permanently occurs in real life. And I can assure you that we always - I repeat ALWAYS - handled everything including clean-ups to the most fair and clean extend. However, all of our moderators are humans; XDA doesn't use any AI like Google etc. When you registered on this private website 10 years ago, you most likely didn't note or meanwhile just ignored that this website has grown up to more than 11 miliion users, 75+ million posts in 3.5+ million threads. I'm not looking for excuses, especially not on a weekend, but did you ever relate this to the number of moderators? You're free to count them here. All these very few moderators are volunteers who do this "job" absolutely for free and just by our dedication to the XDA Forum besides our real lifes, real families and friends, real businesses and occupations. If you believe we get anything like devices etc. for free; negative, there's nothing.
And if you now believe I'm upset by your public posts: This is absolutely correct!
If you don't like how my fellow moderators or I handle the XDA Forum, I think there are two alternatives I suggest to you:
Data Deletion Request on XDA-Developers (GDPR)
XDA collects and stores a very limited amount of personal information from our users and never sells or shares personally identifiable information with anyone. Please see our privacy policy for more information on what data we collect and how it is used. We value your privacy and will comply...
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or - and maybe the better alternative - if you're able to prove your competence, interest and capabilities in case you want to change or enhance the moderators' operations:
We currently need new Forum Moderators
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Oswald Boelcke
m0han said:
XDA mods can be funny. Like when they do a job without being asked to and leave it half-done.
Why was a thread created in my name without my consent?
Why are these posts allowed to stand?
This was the starter: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87344169
Another one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87384473
This too: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87344607
My posts, if OT, could have been deleted.
Delete this thread. @Timmmmaaahh!, @Oswald Boelcke
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Sometimes, life can be funny. I'll respectfully challenge you on "without being asked" and "leaving it half done," however, since those seem to be the biggest sticking points.
Your post was reported by another member, so that should help clear up the "without being asked" aspect of the inquiry. As far as "leaving it half-done" is concerned, the posts you mentioned do not explicitly mention that Fox2Code program. If you're convinced that they belong in this thread, feel free to let me know, and I'll be happy to move them to complete the cleanup.
While your post didn't explicitly reference Fox2Code's program either, being the post that was reported, it received the bulk of the scrutiny. I took the liberty of running a web search to try and piece it together for everyone's sake. Once done, I grafted out posts that appeared to have been obviously related into their own thread, where I still believe that they rightfully belong (rather than remaining as off-topic posts in an unrelated thread).
m0han said:
wow! didn't know you guys would make the conversion selectively.
the post that started it all, the one i quoted to make my post in the first place, is not moved.
there was another post by @Stillhard where he called me (and maybe @meric57) 'mad' and asked for another thread to be created, which is now 'mia' on xda. i suppose @Bill720 created the thread based on that post.
isn't @Stillhard's out-of-context post offending? clearly, he wasn't offering any help or guidance. wasn't he 'publicly abusing' us, as opposed to my so-called 'shaming you'? was my post deleted (ss 04) 'cos this was the post @Stillhard quoted to call me (and @meric57) 'mad'?
hope it's not too much to expect you guys to do a fairer and cleaner clean-up.
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You'll have to point that one out to me, as I did not personally perform any further cleanup in the thread aside from what was moved to this one. To reiterate, I'm not here to ruin anybody's day or single anybody out, so, if you feel that any straggler posts remain in that thread that should obviously be in this one, (stemming from your original off-topic post) you are more than welcome to let me know.
Oswald Boelcke said:
.... if you now believe I'm upset by your public posts: This is absolutely correct!
If you don't like how my fellow moderators or I handle the XDA Forum, I think there are two alternatives I suggest to you:
Data Deletion Request on XDA-Developers (GDPR)
XDA collects and stores a very limited amount of personal information from our users and never sells or shares personally identifiable information with anyone. Please see our privacy policy for more information on what data we collect and how it is used. We value your privacy and will comply...
www.xda-developers.com
or......
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the data deletion page is actually for account deletion. so, you're hinting that i delete my account? i'll think about it. and, thanks for alerting users about the need for new mods.
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.... Your post was reported by another member, so that should help clear up the "without being asked" aspect of the inquiry. As far as "leaving it half-done" is concerned, the posts you mentioned do not explicitly mention that Fox2Code program....
.... I took the liberty of running a web search to try and piece it together for everyone's sake..... if you feel that any straggler posts remain.... (stemming from your original off-topic post)...
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when that someone reported my post, did he/she request you to create a new thread? you could've simply deleted that post, since you seemed to agree with him/her that it was ot.
@meric57, @Stillhard, @huskydg all mentioned 'fox' - check screenshots in my post above - those posts remain in place (i didn't even mention that name, did i?). if a thread had to be created, at all, it had to be in @meric57's name.
it's surprising, to put it mildly, that you don't get the picture although marked screenshots have been provided in serial order for quick perusal.
it may be noted that the closing sentence in my first post here (the first three posts are by the mods) was to delete the thread.
m0han said:
it's surprising, to put it mildly, that you don't get the picture although marked screenshots have been provided in serial order for quick perusal.
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What I find most surprising is that you're putting us on the spot here without any clear reason. This isn't the first time that you're challenging us with your vision on how we should moderate. If you think it's that easy and you can do better, then by all means: become a moderator. But I will not have my team mates being insulted for doing their volunteer work in good conscience. Such lack of respect for all what we do for this community is unfounded and uncalled for. For what, even? Because we didn't cater to your needs and you feel we have some sort of bias in an internet forum cleanup? All while we are always up for discussing this with anyone that has any questions about our moderation. You will need to bring some harder evidence to the table before ridiculing us like that. We will always approach a cleanup in a way that we feel is the most objective one and of course that will disadvantage some people. That is just a reality we all have to deal with in all sorts of aspects in life.
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it may be noted that the closing sentence in my first post here (the first three posts are by the mods) was to delete the thread.
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That's not how it works, though! You can't just insult us and then tell us to wipe it under the rug in the same breath. You've picked your battle and now we'll settle it. Throw anything at us and we'll gladly explain our actions.
It still doesn't make any sense to me what any of us did wrong here. Only 3 of your posts were removed on August 5 in a large cleanup of "Magisk General Support / Discussion", which we have already discussed in private, after which you stated to me: "Case closed. Thank you.". In that private conversation I stated "...such busy threads are really hard to moderate and it requires a tremendous amount of patience to remain neutral all the time. I am not immune to this either, we are still human beings. We do try hard though ", which still very much stands.
After that one more of your posts was removed last Saturday, which contained "i feel for you", a response you outed to another member that had mildly insulted you with the words "you mad?", which was also removed.
Are you know hunting other members that post anything even remotely off topic? Because we'll only step in if we feel it's needed to, not because you're telling us to. That doesn't go well with any form of authority. That said, all of our members are encouraged to report anything that potentially violates our terms and we will 100% look into it.
Timmmmaaahh! said:
What I find most surprising is that.... You can't just insult us and then tell us to wipe it under the rug in the same breath..... all of our members are encouraged to report anything that potentially violates our terms and we will 100% look into it.
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What I find utmost surprising is that you still don't see that it was not me who started with 'fox'; yet you chose my post to start the thread. Why? Is somebody 'reporting it' reason enough to drag someone else into a mess?
So, you're saying 'xda mods can be funny' (wonder if haha-funny would've been ok, as you seemed to imply) is insulting and 'you mad?' is not, as is mentioning contents of PMs in open threads.
Anything I do is wrong and anything the mods do is A-OK, right? I think I know where this is headed.
m0han said:
when that someone reported my post, did he/she request you to create a new thread? you could've simply deleted that post, since you seemed to agree with him/her that it was ot.
@meric57, @Stillhard, @huskydg all mentioned 'fox' - check screenshots in my post above - those posts remain in place (i didn't even mention that name, did i?). if a thread had to be created, at all, it had to be in @meric57's name.
it's surprising, to put it mildly, that you don't get the picture although marked screenshots have been provided in serial order for quick perusal.
it may be noted that the closing sentence in my first post here (the first three posts are by the mods) was to delete the thread.
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The person who reported the post did not request that I split the off-topic chatter into its own thread. My own common sense requested that. I try not to make a habit of deleting posts for no reason, so that is the reason for the chosen course of action.
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What I find utmost surprising is that you still don't see that it was not me who started with 'fox'; yet you chose my post to start the thread. Why? Is somebody 'reporting it' reason enough to drag someone else into a mess?
So, you're saying 'xda mods can be funny' (wonder if haha-funny would've been ok, as you seemed to imply) is insulting and 'you mad?' is not, as is mentioning contents of PMs in open threads.
Anything I do is wrong and anything the mods do is A-OK, right? I think I know where this is headed.
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Again, if you feel that there were other posts that should also have been grafted into this thread, you're welcome to let me know. At the time, during my brief assessment, I moved only the posts that appeared to be obviously and directly related. Sometimes, during this cleanup process, it is possible that some items were missed.
Anything you do is wrong, as long as it's not right. Keeping the forums clean is everyone's responsibility, however, so I hope that this answers your question adequately.
Bill720 said:
The person who reported the post did not request that I split the off-topic chatter into its own thread. My own common sense requested that. I try not to make a habit of deleting posts for no reason.... there were other posts that should also have been grafted into this thread..... it is possible that some items were missed.... I hope that this answers your question adequately.
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No, it does not. Let me try to elucidate - again: It was not me who started with 'fox'; yet you chose my post to start the thread. That is wrong, since it is not right.
You, being a mod, can move the first post regarding 'fox' to the top of this thread making it the 'op'; everything else can follow that in chronological order.
And, you can go ahead and move all the other 'fox' posts to this thread since you term them as that being off-topic in the threads they are in at the moment - if you don't plan/wish to delete them, i.e.
Since you seem to have difficulty getting the picture from the screenshots provided, here are the links, for your convenience:
1. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87344169
2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87344607
3. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...p-edits-and-more-v6-1-2.3789228/post-87384473
from another thread:
from: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...third-party-magisk-fork.4460555/post-87379839
to: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...third-party-magisk-fork.4460555/post-87386063
Hello everyone, no need to worry about this. I am seeing on gitub with fox2code for this problem which persists, today updated 0.6.3 of fox manager for magisk rebelotte. message in red and magisk root absent so I have to reflash with odin.
I've moved the relevant posts over.
m0han said:
What I find utmost surprising is that you still don't see that it was not me who started with 'fox'; yet you chose my post to start the thread. Why? Is somebody 'reporting it' reason enough to drag someone else into a mess?
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Having your post moved over to a dedicated thread - making you the op - is dragging you into a mess? Okay. Solved. When we receive a report about something it catches our attention, we will act or we won't as we deem necessary.
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So, you're saying 'xda mods can be funny' (wonder if haha-funny would've been ok, as you seemed to imply) is insulting and 'you mad?' is not, as is mentioning contents of PMs in open threads.
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Oh, we're hilarious, but it turns a bit darker when someone's throwing insults at us. Again, that 'mad' part was also removed, which is us saying it's not allowed. You're again twisting this to discredit us.
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Anything I do is wrong and anything the mods do is A-OK, right? I think I know where this is headed.
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Just the insults, that was the breaking point. So please, take a lesson from all this: if you believe thread maintenance wasn't performed properly, find out which mod performed it (ask any mod) and address them privately. Or just make another report. Then explain what should've been done differently in a friendly manner. And no, of course we're not perfect or everything we do is always "A-OK", that's what I also kept communicating. Just know that we do our very best to keep this community clean and welcoming to all and there's much more than meets the eye to achieve that goal.

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