Many users of this device (including myself) have noticed bad touch input sensitivity when using the 144Hz mode, but not in 60Hz or Auto. I have found quite an odd solution that at least fixes the issue on my end, and I'd like more people to test this, so please, comment down below.
Okay, for this I don't believe you need root. Go to settings and enable USB debugging, find the Motorola Edge 20 USB drivers online and ADB & Fastboot of you choice.
Once you have done all of that, open ADB & Fastboot in a terminal and write the following without the quote marks and the comments that start with a dash (make sure your display is on and the phone is connected to the computer):
"adb devices"
-this command will make a message pop up on your phone asking you if you allow the current computer to access your phone, press allow
"adb shell settings put system peak_refresh_rate 120"
-this will make it so that your max refresh rate can be 120Hz. Keep in mind you can set this to either 48, 60, 90, 120 or 144.
"adb shell settings put system min_refresh_rate 120"
-this will set your minimum refresh rate that the phone will default to when it thinks that it doesn't need the maximum refresh rate. Again it can be set to 48, 60, 90, 120 or 144.
Note: You do not need to reboot, the changes are instant. You can freely use the power saving feature (it sets the refresh rate to 60 when enabled) as turning it off retains the parameters set. The parameters also remain after rebooting. You will have to re-introduce these commands only if you switch the refresh rate option in the settings. This is for the most part a one-time fix.
What this basically does is set the refresh rate parameters for your phone. Android has adaptive refresh rate that oscillates based on the content you watch. The "min_refresh_rate" is the lowest refresh rate your phone will use when conserving power (e.g sitting idle on a .pdf file or watching a 60fps video) and the "peak_refresh_rate" is the highest refresh rate the phone will reach when doing tasks it deems appropriate for 120fps. At least in theory. The reality is that setting any sort of parameters that aren't a fixed refresh rate (e.g 144Hz peak with 90Hz min) will be refused by your device, and it will choose to switch to 60Hz when it feels like it even if you have specifically set it to not do that.
I have used the phone for about a week now with these settings, and I'm positive it is better with 120Hz min and peak. You do not get touch issues at this refresh rate and your phone also doesn't annoyingly switch to 60Hz when scrolling through a web browser or Instagram. It is pinned to 120Hz. Although it sucks that the device is not usable at 144Hz, this is the best solution at the moment until Motorola decides to fix their device.
I unfortunately doubt this fixes the issues with the Indian release of the phone. From my understanding, the Indian market has received a varient that has an AMOLED display that comes with issues far more severe than what I've experienced on my unit. Hopefully it is a software issue rather than a hardware one.
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I'll try this later tonight. Thanks for the tip.
Also, Motorola has announced in their forum that there is a fix coming for the touch issue in a software update.
dannejanne said:
I'll try this later tonight. Thanks for the tip.
Also, Motorola has announced in their forum that there is a fix coming for the touch issue in a software update.
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Yes, I know this. But we all know Motorola is very slow with updates. If we get that fix by the end of the year we'll be very lucky. Set the refresh to 120 and 120 respectively. I feel that the phone is way more usable this way. I'll update the guide too.
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Yes, I know this. But we all know Motorola is very slow with updates. If we get that fix by the end of the year we'll be very lucky. Set the refresh to 120 and 120 respectively. I feel that the phone is way more usable this way. I'll update the guide too.
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My touch still had problems in 144Hz mode after doing this. In auto I never really had an issue. However it is useful to let the phone run at 120Hz all the time.
dannejanne said:
My touch still had problems in 144Hz mode after doing this. In auto I never really had an issue. However it is useful to let the phone run at 120Hz all the time.
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You shouldn't have touch problems with 120Hz fixed.
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You shouldn't have touch problems with 120Hz fixed.
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No I don't, only in 144Hz mode. Didn't have issue in auto mode before fixing the refresh rate either. Anyway let's hope the future update will fix 144Hz mode.
dannejanne said:
No I don't, only in 144Hz mode. Didn't have issue in auto mode before fixing the refresh rate either. Anyway let's hope the future update will fix 144Hz mode.
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Yeah. Let's hope that it's at least not hardware related and can actually be fixed.
Running 144hz no touch issues hear Smooth as butter ,
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I jumped from stock CN firmware to XiaomiEU and I noticed that my YouTube running on 60Hz...this is how to fix it back to 120hz all the time. This is method gonna change you refresh rate to 120Hz everywhere including games, and it will stay after restarting ur phone
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I think videos on YouTube are max 60 FPS so no real point in any higher than 60hz. That was my understanding anyway I could be well off.
I would gladly make it so that the refresh drops to the content I'm watching ( like YouTube to 60 ) but it seems to be stuck on 120hz always... that's why I set it to 90hz and it's much better now . It's a very good compromise between battery drain and viewing experience imo.
Cheers !
ZandersUK said:
I think videos on YouTube are max 60 FPS so no real point in any higher than 60hz. That was my understanding anyway I could be well off.
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Correct, videos on YT are 60FPS max. However I think OP simply meant 120Hz when scrolling in the YouTube app
jericho246 said:
Correct, videos on YT are 60FPS max. However I think OP simply meant 120Hz when scrolling in the YouTube app
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Ah my bad then. Cheers
avetny said:
I jumped from stock CN firmware to XiaomiEU and I noticed that my YouTube running on 60Hz...this is how to fix it back to 120hz all the time. This is method gonna change you refresh rate to 120Hz everywhere including games, and it will stay after restarting ur phone
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Nope, it doesn't work in my 11 Ultra global rom. What i did was clear the cache of battery and performance apps and it will become 120Hz everywhere. However it will revert back once restarted.
I am not sure if this will work with xiaomi devices but for those who want to test/try, check galaxy max hz
avetny said:
I jumped from stock CN firmware to XiaomiEU and I noticed that my YouTube running on 60Hz...this is how to fix it back to 120hz all the time. This is method gonna change you refresh rate to 120Hz everywhere including games, and it will stay after restarting ur phone
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Damn thx bruh. I'm getting 120 on yt now. Was trying to find out how to get this done. Idk I came across stuff like to clear the battery app. Weird.
Anyway thx! This helped a ton!
It doesn't work really well though as after watching a video YouTube goes back to 60hz, I found the solution with forcing 120hz via custom props for those who have root
Thanks, it worked on my Poco F3
Thanks it worked on mi 11.
avetny said:
I jumped from stock CN firmware to XiaomiEU and I noticed that my YouTube running on 60Hz...this is how to fix it back to 120hz all the time. This is method gonna change you refresh rate to 120Hz everywhere including games, and it will stay after restarting ur phone
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Thanks alot, i was searching for solution and clearing data or performance and battery was not working for my device,
Thanks again
The swich between 120 and 60 or between 90 or 60 (when setting the refresh rate manually) on Mi 11 Pro is driving me crazy. The reason is that the screen flickers eveytime it switches refresh rate. I really need to set 90hz or 120hz permanently but none of the solutions above works for me. Is there any other way to fix the refresh rate to a given number? 60hz is too low.
You can do ot with terminal if you have root or via ADB if not
flipp0 said:
The swich between 120 and 60 or between 90 or 60 (when setting the refresh rate manually) on Mi 11 Pro is driving me crazy. The reason is that the screen flickers eveytime it switches refresh rate. I really need to set 90hz or 120hz permanently but none of the solutions above works for me. Is there any other way to fix the refresh rate to a given number? 60hz is too low.
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I use the app SetEdit, easy peasy 90hz, even when i restart my phone
SetEdit SettingsDatabaseEditor - Apps on Google Play
Provides direct access to the Android settings database
play.google.com
BigDisplay said:
I use the app SetEdit, easy peasy 90hz, even when i restart my phone
SetEdit SettingsDatabaseEditor - Apps on Google Play
Provides direct access to the Android settings database
play.google.com
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I used this app before. I now suspect that my problems with flicker started some time after I changed the refresh rate to 90hz using setedit. Anyway, I recently did a clean install of MIUI 13 (Xiaomi EU) and the flicker is gone. I use the default 120 hz mode now and get more or less the same battery life as when I used 90hz. Before I did a clean flash it did not work using ADB commands either. Even if I set both minimum or maximun refresh rate to 90 it jumped between 60 and 90 constantly.
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I used this app before. I now suspect that my problems with flicker started some time after I changed the refresh rate to 90hz using setedit. Anyway, I recently did a clean install of MIUI 13 (Xiaomi EU) and the flicker is gone. I use the default 120 hz mode now and get more or less the same battery life as when I used 90hz. Before I did a clean flash I did not work using ADB commands either. Even if I set both minimum or maximun refresh rate to 90 it jumped between 60 and 90 constantly.
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Nice, best is, you are satisfied
When I set the display to 144hz mode it feels like the touch sensor isn't catching up to my touches. I often have to repeat my actions 2 or 3 times before what I want happens and the experience becomes sluggish in general.
This doesn't happen in the "auto" mode that tops out at 120hz. But the problem with this mode is that depending on the screen brightness, if I scroll in some apps for a few seconds (for example chrome, firefox and facebook), the refresh rate goes down to 60hz, which is really annoying. This happens when the brightness is above 70%. So when it's at 71% or higher, the refresh rate goes down to 60hz when scrolling. On 70% or lower it stays at 120hz. This makes this mode useless for me as I'm in web browsers most of the time.
Any fixes for these issues? Else I'll sadly have to return the phone.
I bought this phone because of the 144hz display and I can't even use it.
I've noticed that also unfortunately. I thought it was my screen protector fault but it's seem at auto to work without problem. I hope we will receive a future update to resolve this problem.
Geo.B said:
I've noticed that also unfortunately. I thought it was my screen protector fault but it's seem at auto to work without problem. I hope we will receive a future update to resolve this problem.
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Edge 20 Pro here, same thing. Also thought 'bout low quality of screen protector. Hope that update fixes it.
Got mine 5 days ago, I'm not using screen protector. No issues with the touch, screen is set to 144Hz, not on auto. And it's quite more sensible than my previous Galaxy S20.
Maybe it's a hardware problem, as mine doesn't have any of the issues described. It's 144hz in all apps, no matter the brightness, and touch response is great.
ione2380 said:
Maybe it's a hardware problem, as mine doesn't have any of the issues described. It's 144hz in all apps, no matter the brightness, and touch response is great.
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For me it really depends on how I use the phone. In 144Hz I need to leave my finger on the screen for a fraction of a second longer and it works just fine, but since I type quickly, I can't really use it like that. Are you a quick typer? Or are you more deliberate with your touches? If it is a hardware problem, I don't see why Lenovo wouldn't just add a setting that lets you adjust the sensitivity much like how Samsung does so that it's a universal fix for everyone.
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Are you a quick typer?
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Yes, I am. No problems with typing.
If the brightness is above half, the color temperature will change slightly by itself, but at 120hz only at 60hz I have not experienced this. Is it like that for anyone else?
Color calibration is a known issue on variable rate displays. They are extremely hard for the manufacturers to color calibrate even if within specs. It's present on all variable rate displays to some extent. So yours may be within specs or not.
Try a side by side comparison with another identical device. If you can see a difference that's not a good sign as human gamma and to a lesser extent color perception (many not all, some have excellent color perception*) sucks. If both reproduce the same images identically, it's likely their design firmware/hardware limit.
*it's tiered like IQ. If you're in the top 1% you can detect color shifts others are completely unaware of.
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Color calibration is a known issue on variable rate displays. They are extremely hard for the manufacturers to color calibrate even if within specs. It's present on all variable rate displays to some extent. So yours may be within specs or not.
Try a side by side comparison with another identical device. If you can see a difference that's not a good sign as human gamma and to a lesser extent color perception (many not all, some have excellent color perception*) sucks. If both reproduce the same images identically, it's likely their design firmware/hardware limit.
*it's tiered like IQ. If you're in the top 1% you can detect color shifts others are completely unaware of.
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will this be fixed?
Torok6 said:
will this be fixed?
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No way to tell... wysiwyg
Yes i facing same problem with 11t pro. Its brightness issue on 120hz and redmi note 10 pro had same problem in past . Its happening only when brightness over 40%. Because under 40% brightness Screen always 120hz not variable refresh rate. Waiting for update to fix this problem
chinda1979 said:
Yes i facing same problem with 11t pro. Its brightness issue on 120hz and redmi note 10 pro had same problem in past . Its happening only when brightness over 40%. Because under 40% brightness Screen always 120hz not variable refresh rate. Waiting for update to fix this problem
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is this guaranteed to be repaired?
Torok6 said:
is this guaranteed to be repaired?
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You can lock refresh rate to 120hz with adb tool .
chinda1979 said:
You can lock refresh rate to 120hz with adb tool .
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where can i turn it on?
Torok6 said:
where can i turn it on?
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I found this, hope it will help you.
but can they solve this with an update?
sushuguru said:
I found this, hope it will help you.
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I was facing the same color calibration change as the op stated.
This method just worked fine even without unlocked bootloader. When minimum refresh rate is set to 90 Hz you cannot notice any color calibration change.
Thanks a lot
Riichard63 said:
I was facing the same color calibration change as the op stated.
This method just worked fine even without unlocked bootloader. When minimum refresh rate is set to 90 Hz you cannot notice any color calibration change.
Thanks a lot
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There is no 11T pro 90hz
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There is no 11T pro 90hz
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No you can't set it within rom settings, there is only 120 and 60 Hz. But when you goes for 120 Hz it turns to be adaptative refresh rate meanings that refresh rate varies between 60 and 120 Hz.
The method sushuguru provided allow to modify the minimum refresh rate value, so now my phone oscillate only between 90 and 120 Hz instead of a 60-120 range.
Riichard63 said:
No you can't set it within rom settings, there is only 120 and 60 Hz. But when you goes for 120 Hz it turns to be adaptative refresh rate meanings that refresh rate varies between 60 and 120 Hz.
The method sushuguru provided allow to modify the minimum refresh rate value, so now my phone oscillate only between 90 and 120 Hz instead of a 60-120 range.
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but it only switches to 60hz when the brightness is half
Torok6 said:
There is no 11T pro 90hz
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Yes just command minimum refresh to 90hz
in adb tool to solve this problem.
Only 3 command in adb tool
1: adb devices
2: adb shell
3: settings put system min_refresh_rate 90
chinda1979 said:
Yes just command minimum refresh to 90hz
in adb tool to solve this problem.
Only 3 command in adb tool
1: adb devices
2: adb shell
3: settings put system min_refresh_rate 90
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Note : before this you must on usb debugging and usb debugging (security settings) in developer mode
Hi there, I'd not noticed this before the Android 12 update, but refresh rate appears to drop from 120Hz to 60Hz when using Picture in Picture or Split Screen views. Can anyone else reproduce this please?
You can confirm this by going into developer mode and toggling to always display the refresh rate.
Try a factory reset if you haven't already and it was a OTA upgrade...
I'd rather see if others can reproduce this first - would have thought it's a simple enough thing to test and post your results here, thanks!
Hi SSJ100, I just tested this to confirm for you, it does drop to 60hz immediately and I cannot prompt it to 120hz until I return to full screen view
Further testing, if i have video running in the background, Amazon, netflix or YouTube it stays at 120 with windowed mode on
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Hi SSJ100, I just tested this to confirm for you, it does drop to 60hz immediately and I cannot prompt it to 120hz until I return to full screen view
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Thanks for checking! Again though, I'm quite amazed (okay, maybe not quite the word hehe) at how no one has reported this issue in this forum (and at least one other "major" forum). If they have, please excuse my ignorance and I'd appreciate a link to the thread.
I can also confirm that this issue persists even after updating to the so-called bug fixing patch "BUKG".
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Further testing, if i have video running in the background, Amazon, netflix or YouTube it stays at 120 with windowed mode on
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Interesting how bugs like this manifest sometimes huh hehe. I first noticed this issue with Google Maps when I was navigating with it and switching to another app (which automatically forces Google Maps app to become picture in picture mode). Scrolling looks quite different and jittery - it's amazing how one gets used to 120Hz!
Have you tried the tiles app developed by a user on here? It can force refresh rates very easily and just requires an adb permission.....there was a thread the other day
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Scrolling looks quite different and jittery - it's amazing how one gets used to 120Hz!
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There is some black magic going on with these 120Hz panels. 60 Hz never seemed to be a problem before these high refresh rate displays started popping up. I remember smooth as butter 60Hz phones (both iphones and android). But now when i use a 120Hz panel at a 60Hz refresh rate, it feels like something inside the phone is in it's death throes, coughing and spluttering - the stutter is jarring! But if I use my wife's OnePlus 6 (which has a fixed 60Hz screen), it doesn't feel so bad. It's definitely not as smooth as 120Hz but the 60Hz on a 60Hz panel feels smoother than 60Hz on a 120Hz panel. Is it only me or has anyone else had a similar experience?
I have the same issue as well..so pissed..using latest BUKG
I'm on Android 11, One UI 3 still, and when my phone displays split screen apps the refresh rate drops from 120 down to 60.
This must be some battery saving feature, because If I toggle performance mode (processing speed) from the drop down quick menu, the fps shoots back up to 120 in split screen.
So an easy fix if you need 120 in split screen.
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I'm on Android 11, One UI 3 still, and when my phone displays split screen apps the refresh rate drops from 120 down to 60.
This must be some battery saving feature, because If I toggle performance mode (processing speed) from the drop down quick menu, the fps shoots back up to 120 in split screen.
So an easy fix if you need 120 in split screen.
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Yes, that seems to "fix" it for split screen. However, it doesn't resolve picture in picture fps drop to 60Hz.
Hmm must be an Android 12 thing. I'm sat here typing this with YouTube playing pip and the screen is holding 120fps even with my finger removed from the screen.
I did try Android 12 when the public version was released, but didn't like it, so downgraded back to the last version of 11, with a clean wipe.
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
Gasman said:
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
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If you're in low ambient light, screen at low brightness, panel will be locked at 120Hz even with adaptive selected. Move to bright area or increase screen brightness and check if you are able to get to 60Hz
Gasman said:
Hmm must be an Android 12 thing. I'm sat here typing this with YouTube playing pip and the screen is holding 120fps even with my finger removed from the screen.
I did try Android 12 when the public version was released, but didn't like it, so downgraded back to the last version of 11, with a clean wipe.
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Yes, I've only noticed this issue since Android 12 with the picture-in-picture scenario. Hopefully Samsung fixes this soon.
Gasman said:
Ok something odd going off, my screen seems to be stuck at 120!
Forcing it back to 60 in display options, works. Putting it back to adaptive, keeps the screen at 120. Even on the lock screen, and AOD!
I might try a reboot.
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Nothing odd there - as previous poster mentioned, it's always behaved that way when the ambient lighting is low enough. And yes, has always been that way for AOD too. I never understood why 120Hz is required particularly for that!
I think that after android 12, my unlock animation is rendered at 60hz because it is sometimes sluggish. Did a full factory reset and i have the last update. Do you guys experience the same? other than that the phone is perfectly smooth
Still the same issue with BULC December update. Somewhat disappointing, as you'd think this should be quite an easy fix.
Still same issue after BULG update with PIP. As a previous person has noted, split-screen mode appears to be auto-throttled to 60Hz by default, and the only way to change this so it remains at 120Hz is by toggling "High" or "Maximum" "Processing speed".
Pretty sure, my oneplus 10 pro is stuck at 120hz the whole time which drains A LOT of battery. BUT, isn't this phone meant to be LTPO 2.0 technology which has variable refresh rate as low as 1hz. I am so confused why it doesn't drop to 1hz. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP . I tried those stupid apps like smart hertz and they are useless, shouldn't the phone itself drop to 1hz, like bruh
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Pretty sure, my oneplus 10 pro is stuck at 120hz the whole time which drains A LOT of battery. BUT, isn't this phone meant to be LTPO 2.0 technology which has variable refresh rate as low as 1hz. I am so confused why it doesn't drop to 1hz. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP . I tried those stupid apps like smart hertz and they are useless, shouldn't the phone itself drop to 1hz, like bruh
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Hi, in the developper options settings you can toggle on a settings that show you the live framerate of the screen. You will see it drops at 1hz when nothing is happening on the screen. Warning : it drops only to 10hz when brightness is at middle, and stay at 120hz all time at mid brightness
Hope it helps you
Edit : i tried and mine is also stuck at 120hz or 60hz but never dropping below
It was working few months ago
Working fine here
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It's stuck on 120hz on my side on lower brightness levels.
On the Standard refresh rate setting, it's altering between 60hz & 30hz on lower brightness levels.
@regrestbuyingOP10pro are you in quad HD + ? If so try to go back at full HD +, then reboot
On my side variable refresh rate worked again after that, but as soon as I go for quad HD it brake it
Still great battery life with quad HD tho
Edit : tried it again and does not worked this time. I really dont know what's causing that, maybe with debloat I disabled an app nedded for that
Have you used the magisk module, because some time ago, because of some modules, the screen can only switch between 120 and 60hz
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Have you used the magisk module, because some time ago, because of some modules, the screen can only switch between 120 and 60hz
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Interesting, indeed I have some Magisk modules and Lsposed modules. I disabled them all but did not change... Still stuck at 120hz and dropping only to 60 and only when watching a vidéo or with keyboard openend, just as you described. I will restore some disabled system app to see if there is a link
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Interesting, indeed I have some Magisk modules and Lsposed modules. I disabled them all but did not change... Still stuck at 120hz and dropping only to 60 and only when watching a vidéo or with keyboard openend, just as you described. I will restore some disabled system app to see if there is a link
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You can try to remove root to determine the problem
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You can try to remove root to determine the problem
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So i removed root completely, i restored ALL the system apps that i disabled long time ago to debloat the phone, and removed some apps that can changes system settings such as Naptime, 3C toolbox, DarkQ
Rebooted a couple of times and this damn phone is still stuck at 120Hz
I will give up there, except if you have other ideas to test, but i'm too lazy to do a factory reset to see if a ****ter user app is causing this...
Someone have his phone that is dropping fine to 10hz or 1hz with OOS 13 C22, C25 or C26 ?
To know if it is not a system issue of these builds, please tell me
I have never rooted my phone. Refresh rate is working fine for me on C26
Did you try smartherz. Apk
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Did you try smartherz. Apk
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Yep, I can lock some app that were 60hz to 120hz like snapchat, and lock some apps to 60hz
But it don't fix my issue : if I stop scrolling to read something, my screen will never drop hz, and stay still at 120 or 60 depending on how I set it