Samsung loop boot download mode - Samsung Galaxy M31 Questions & Answers

Buonasera ho riscontrato un grosso problema con il mio Samsung M31
In pratica il telefono rimane acceso in download mode e quando lo riavvio torna in download mode mostrandomi sempre lo stesso errore:
modalità odin (avb fail)
ripristino: errore durante la convalida del piè di pagina. (0)
ripristino: errore durante la verifica dell'immagine vbmeta: intestazione vbmeta non valida (6)
Sapreste darmi una soluzione?
Translated by GT:
Good evening I have encountered a big problem with my Samsung M31
In practice, the phone stays on in download mode and when I restart it it goes back to download mode, always showing me the same error:
odin mode (avb fail)
recovery: Error validating footer. (0)
recovery: error while verifying vbmeta image: invalid vbmeta header (6)
Could you give me a solution?

Seems you flashed something corrupt. I recommend a clean flash with the official firmware for your device.

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Xperia SP is stuck in the Sony logo and then restarts

Hello,
First sorry for my English is so bad because I am Brazilian and I do not write well.
I have a Xperia SP and he had a ROM, I was changing the ROM and she was not installing for reasons that I'm trying to install a different version of my possible to XSP. Thus I uninstalled the old version and unwittingly I turned off my phone and now it is stuck in the logo of Sony.
Searching here and reading some many forums found some solutions put any work on my mobile.
Steps to follow:
1: I have installed FlashTool and tried to download the file * .ftf the original Xperia SP, however not sure gave the program is returning error in system.sin file and does not run the flash completely.
ERROR:
17/029/2015 23:29:58 - INFO - Flashing data
17/030/2015 23:30:00 - INFO - Closing TA partition
17/030/2015 23:30:00 - INFO - Opening TA partition 2
17/030/2015 23:30:00 - INFO - Processing system.sin
17/030/2015 23:30:00 - INFO - Checking header
17/030/2015 23:30:01 - ERROR - Processing of system.sin finished with errors.
17/030/2015 23:30:01 - INFO - Ending flash session
17/030/2015 23:30:01 - ERROR -
17/030/2015 23:30:01 - ERROR - Error flashing. Aborted
17/030/2015 23:30:01 - INFO - Flashing finished.
17/030/2015 23:30:01 - INFO - Please unplug and start your phone
17/030/2015 23:30:01 - INFO - For flashtool, Unknown Sources and Debugging must be checked in phone settings
2: researching a little more found something to extract the file * .tft zip in and try to flash but with FASTBOT only file system.sin however this step earlier returned mistake and now it does not load the file so any. If I try to give fastbot in kernel.sin it performs regular put in system.sin not run.
However after I run fastbot the kernel.sin the phone it tries to connect however he stands on the logo of Sony yet, but now it off and try to connect again, as if he had not found the systen.sin (which imagines that is the operational system)
3: I tried to correct the Sony PC Companion put it reports that there is a system installed on the phone and it is not possible to recover.
Another problem not appear that the phone is charging, it apparently is entering mod flash in and out even when connected to power .
Here is my problem, my cell phone does not come out of the Sony screen and I can not access the CWM in any way to try to install something for him.
I wonder if there is a solution to this problem.
Solved - resolvido
Hello everyone,
after a long break your head finally managed to solve the problem ( thank God !!!)
I discovered the fastboot and researched more about it and after many attempts almost breaking all here , figured out how to solve the problem.
First I realized I was only installing Kernels via fastboot so I basically looked for a way ta install something via Fastboo was then I found this turorial : http_://theunlockr.com/2014/03/04/install-custom-recovery-sony-xperia-sp-12-1-0-266/)
leading to an XDA link to download a file that reinstalava .elf CWM on your phone.
With so I reinstalled the CWM and insert the ROM again.
Well what was the mistake that I hope no one else comet.
PLEASE DO NOT TURN YOUR CELL AFTER ERASE A ROM BECAUSE THE PHONE WILL NOT FIND OPERATING SYSTEM AND NEITHER WILL ON.
If you make the same mistake you download this file and use the fastboot .
Thank you all
Obrigado pela ajuda pessoal.
olá a todos,
depois de muito quebrar a cabeça finalmente consegui resolver o problema (graças a Deus!!!)
Eu descobri o FastBoot e pesquisei mais sobre ele e apos muitas tentativas quase quebrando tudo aqui, descobri como resolver o problema.
Primeiro percebi que somente estava instalando Kernels via FastBoot então eu basicamente procurei uma forma ta instalar algo via Fastboo foi então que encontrei este turorial: http_://theunlockr.com/2014/03/04/install-custom-recovery-sony-xperia-sp-12-1-0-266
que levava a um link do XDA para download de um arquivo .elf que reinstalava o CWM no celular.
Com isso eu reinstalei o CWM e inseri a ROM novamente.
Bom qual foi o erro que espero que ninguem mais cometa.
POR FAVOR NÃO DESLIGUE SEU CELULAR APÓS APAGAR UMA ROM POIS O CELULAR NÃO VAI ENCONTRAR SISTEMA OPERACIONAL E NÃO VAI NEM LIGAR.
caso você cometa o mesmo erro que eu baixe este arquivo e use o fastboot.
Obrigado a todos
Ou com flash tools você podia fazer flash de um kernel e ligar o celular sem formatar '-'

[HELP] Moto G2 Hard Brick (XT1068)

Hello, to start my English is very bad so I'll try to explain what's going on with my device.
I bought the XT1068 defective, apparently in the photos would be simple the process, I would install the ROM stock and it would remove the message bootloader and ready. I've tried absolutely everything
It appears the error "Invalid boot image header!"
If I try for a ROM on it it gives some errors, for example "failed to validate ftm image that means its not fih mode load and validate boot image" other "version is downgraded primary_gtp" (this when I tried for the ROM 4.4.4 ).
When I try to install the ROM on mfastboot so it appears these errors "C: \ Users \ PEDRO \ Desktop \ adb> mfastboot flash partition gpt.bin
Reported target max download size of 536870912 bytes
sending 'partition' (32 KB) ...
OKAY [0.050s]
writing 'partition' ...
(Bootloader) Preflash validation failed.
What do I do ?? please help me
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Olá, pra começar meu ingles é péssimo então vou tentar explicar o que está acontecendo com meu aparelho.
Eu comprei o XT1068 com defeito, aparentemente nas fotos seria simples o processo, eu instalaria a ROM stock nele e tiraria a mensagem de bootloader e pronto. Já tentei absolutamente de tudo
Ele aparece o erro "Invalid boot image header !"
Se eu tento por uma ROM nele ele dá alguns erros, por exemplo "failed to validate ftm image that means its not fih mode load and validate boot image" outro "version downgraded for primary_gtp" ( isso quando eu tentei por a ROM 4.4.4 ).
Quando vou tentar instalar a ROM no modo mfastboot ele aparece esses erros "C:\Users\PEDRO\Desktop\adb>mfastboot flash partition gpt.bin
target reported max download size of 536870912 bytes
sending 'partition' (32 KB)...
OKAY [ 0.050s]
writing 'partition'...
(bootloader) Preflash validation failed.
O que eu faço ?? por favor me ajudem

Helpme OEM!

Instale TWRP. Por error desactive, despues OEM. Ahora no funciona..custom binary blocked. How to solve???

Stuck in [Preso em] Fastboot Mode

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Hello!
My device is stuck in Fastboot Mode, but I can't install recovery mode or access it.
Regardless of the keys I use to restart the device (Volume + / volume - / power) it always restarts in fastboot Mode.
When trying to install the recovery mode, and try to use the second command, it appears the following error:
C:\adb>fastboot oem reboot-recovery
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s
When trying to install a new rom, once it gave me the following information: Partition not found, but I don't know if it has much to do with it.
I've searched a lot of alternatives, but I always get back to Fastboot Mode.
Can anyone help?
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Olá!
Meu dispositivo esta preso em Fastboot Mode, mas não consigo instalar o modo recovery e nem acessa-lo.
Independente das teclas que utilizo para reiniciar o aparelho (Volume + / volume - / power) ele sempre reiniciar em fastboot Mode.
Ao tentar instalar o modo recovery, e tentar utilizar o segundo comando, ele aparece o seguinte erro:
C:\adb>fastboot oem reboot-recovery
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s
Na tentativa de instalar uma nova rom, uma vez ele me deu a seguinte informação: Partition not found, mas nao sei se tem muito a ver.
Ja pesquisei inumeras alternativas, mas sempre retorno ao Fastboot Mode.
Algum pode ajudar?
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Hello!
My device is stuck in Fastboot Mode, but I can't install recovery mode or access it.
Regardless of the keys I use to restart the device (Volume + / volume - / power) it always restarts in fastboot Mode.
When trying to install the recovery mode, and try to use the second command, it appears the following error:
C:\adb>fastboot oem reboot-recovery
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s
When trying to install a new rom, once it gave me the following information: Partition not found, but I don't know if it has much to do with it.
I've searched a lot of alternatives, but I always get back to Fastboot Mode.
Can anyone help?
*******************************
Olá!
Meu dispositivo esta preso em Fastboot Mode, mas não consigo instalar o modo recovery e nem acessa-lo.
Independente das teclas que utilizo para reiniciar o aparelho (Volume + / volume - / power) ele sempre reiniciar em fastboot Mode.
Ao tentar instalar o modo recovery, e tentar utilizar o segundo comando, ele aparece o seguinte erro:
C:\adb>fastboot oem reboot-recovery
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s
Na tentativa de instalar uma nova rom, uma vez ele me deu a seguinte informação: Partition not found, mas nao sei se tem muito a ver.
Ja pesquisei inumeras alternativas, mas sempre retorno ao Fastboot Mode.
Algum pode ajudar?
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Hi!
Same thing here, Asus zenfone 5 ZE620KL, after trying to install twrp, phone got stuck in fastboot mode, can't get anywhere else, not recovery or boot to OS
Tried on AMD pc and Intel too, any ideas on how to get the phone working again?
You'll have to use QFIL to unbrick the phone. A quick google should show you how to do this
asusasus55 said:
You'll have to use QFIL to unbrick the phone. A quick google should show you how to do this
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Do we really need to open the back?
alanduda65 said:
Mod edit - translated by https://www.deepl.com/translator:
Hello!
My device is stuck in Fastboot Mode, but I can't install recovery mode or access it.
Regardless of the keys I use to restart the device (Volume + / volume - / power) it always restarts in fastboot Mode.
When trying to install the recovery mode, and try to use the second command, it appears the following error:
C:\adb>fastboot oem reboot-recovery
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s
When trying to install a new rom, once it gave me the following information: Partition not found, but I don't know if it has much to do with it.
I've searched a lot of alternatives, but I always get back to Fastboot Mode.
Can anyone help?
*******************************
Olá!
Meu dispositivo esta preso em Fastboot Mode, mas não consigo instalar o modo recovery e nem acessa-lo.
Independente das teclas que utilizo para reiniciar o aparelho (Volume + / volume - / power) ele sempre reiniciar em fastboot Mode.
Ao tentar instalar o modo recovery, e tentar utilizar o segundo comando, ele aparece o seguinte erro:
C:\adb>fastboot oem reboot-recovery
...
FAILED (remote: unknown command)
finished. total time: 0.000s
Na tentativa de instalar uma nova rom, uma vez ele me deu a seguinte informação: Partition not found, mas nao sei se tem muito a ver.
Ja pesquisei inumeras alternativas, mas sempre retorno ao Fastboot Mode.
Algum pode ajudar?
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Hey guy,
My phone was running the rom "UL-ASUS_X00QD-ASUS-AOSP-17.0615.2005.25-1.1.1-user.zip" (downloaded from Asus Web). I tried to install the TWRP ver 3.3.1 unofficial and my phone was stuck on the fastboot mode only.
After a lot of searching on how to fix the issue, I didn't change anything and almost gave up, until I've read this thread.
My Asus Zenfone 8 flip is STUCK in CSC FASTBOOT MODE PLZ HELP!, RAW FIRMWARE ANYONE???
These are what I did to get the phone into the recovery mode:
1. Extract the rom zip file that my phone was running on.
2. Copy the file boot.img to adb folder.
3. On PC, at adb folder enter CMD, connect the phone then type
fastboot -w
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot recovery
4. After that, my phone can be booted into the recovery mode.
Hope you can solve the same problem as me.
Bye bye ...

!! SOLVED ¡¡ ¿¿Mi Realme x2 pro (1931 global) is dead [ha muerto]??

Hello, I have been researching all day how to solve the problem I have with my Realme x2 pro and I cannot find a solution despite everything I have tried.
I had installed the version "f.14" with A11, I went to enter the recovery mode to try other different roms and it did not go to recovery, but to fastboot, so I decided to install recovery through fastboot ("fastboot flash recovery recovery.img), when The flashing finished I wanted to restart in recovery and went back to fastboot, I tried to restart the mobile to the operating system and to my surprise the screen that I leave below came out ...
I have tested it using fastboot ("fastboot flash boot, dbto, vbmeta, system etc ...), also with tools like Realme Flash Tools (install the entire OFP file, but the mobile does nothing) and the Msm download tool, the latter the tool asks me for a Scarret file (or something like that) that I have no idea how to get it Can anyone explain how I could fix it? Except when I go into fastboot mode this damn screen always appears
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I only have the option to enter fastboot mode. Recovery does not work either, when I try to enter recovery mode automatically (without touching anything) it enters fastboot. Has he definitely died?
Thank you very much in advance.
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Hola, llevo todo el día investigando cómo solucionar el problema que tengo con mi Realme x2 pro y no encuentro una solución a pesar de todo lo que he intentado.
Tenía instalada la versión "f.14" con A11, fui a entrar a modo recovery para probar otras roms diferentes y no entró a recovery, sino a fastboot, entonces decidí instalar recovery mediante fastboot ("fastboot flash recovery recovery.img), cuando terminó el flasheo quise reiniciar en recovery y volvió a fastboot, probé a reiniciar el móvil al sistema operativo y para mi sorpresa salió la pantalla que os dejo debajo ...
Lo he intentado mediante fastboot ("fastboot flash boot, dbto, vbmeta, system etc ...), también con herramientas como Realme Flash Tools (instala todo el archivo OFP, pero el móvil no hace nada) y Msm download tool, esta última tool me pide un archivo scarret (o algo así) que no ni idea como conseguirlo Alguien podría explicarme cómo podría solucionarlo? Excepto cuando entro en modo fastboot, siempre obtengo esta maldita pantalla
Sólo tengo opción de entrar en modo fastboot. Recovery tampoco funciona, cuando intento entrar en modo recovery automáticamente (sin tocar yo nada) entra en fastboot. Ha muerto definitivamente?
Muchas gracias de antemano.
Has he definitely died? Can someone tell me please?
Impakto88 said:
¿¿Definitivamente ha muerto?? ¿Alguien me puede decir porfavor?
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English is the preferred language in the forums, but you can always use google translate!
Please help us to respect the forum rules.
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Please help us to respect the forum rules.
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I've already edited the message and translated it, sorry.
Impakto88 said:
Has he definitely died? Can someone tell me please?
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To get rid of this message and boot normally to system or recovery, Flash the vbmeta.img for your f.14 global firmware with this command in fastboot (bootloader ) mode:
fastboot --disable-verity --disable-verification flash vbmeta vbmeta.img
Eng.Raman said:
Para deshacerse de este mensaje y arrancar normalmente en el sistema o en la recuperación, actualice vbmeta.img para su firmware global f.14 con este comando en modo fastboot (gestor de arranque):
fastboot --disable-verity --disable-verificación flash vbmeta vbmeta.img
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Could you tell me the steps one by one please? I'm pretty clumsy. Sorry.
Impakto88 said:
¿Podrías decirme los pasos uno por uno por favor? Soy bastante torpe. Perdón.
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boot your device into bootloader mode by holding power button+volume down then flash your vbmeta with the command in my previous post, if you didn't know how to extract vbmeta.img from the ofp firmware use this one attached.
Impakto88 said:
I've already edited the message and translated it, sorry.
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Impakto88 said:
¿Podrías decirme los pasos uno por uno por favor? Soy bastante torpe. Perdón.
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Please check your browser (or whatever you use)! You posted again solely in Spanish.
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Eng.Raman said:
boot your device into bootloader mode by holding power button+volume down then flash your vbmeta with the command in my previous post, if you didn't know how to extract vbmeta.img from the ofp firmware use this one attached.
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I just wrote that command with that last file you sent and I pressed "start" ... It remains the same
Has he definitely died? I need to know please
Impakto88 said:
Has he definitely died? I need to know please
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No, I told you just need to flash your vbmeta ( extract it from your global f.14 ofp firmware ) with the command that i have mentioned.
If the above suggestion doesn't work for you, Try flashing this boot patched img attached with the latest magisk alpha ( vb disabled ) may solve your issue using this command in bootloader mode:
fastboot flash boot boot_patched-0f71edee.img
Then after successfully booting to system install the magisk alpha app.
Good luck.
Eng.Raman said:
No, le dije que solo necesita actualizar su vbmeta (extraerlo de su firmware global f.14 ofp) con el comando que he mencionado.
Si la sugerencia anterior no funciona para usted, intente flashear este img parcheado de arranque adjunto con el último magisk alpha (vb deshabilitado) puede resolver su problema usando este comando en el modo de cargador de arranque:
fastboot flash boot boot_patched-0f71edee.img
Luego, después de arrancar con éxito el sistema, instale la aplicación magisk alpha.
Buena suerte.
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It doesn't work for me either. When I finish flashing it, I reboot into recovery and the same screen of "The current image ..." still appears.
I do not have any operating system nor do I have any type of recovery, and no matter how many attempts I make, absolutely no method works for me ... I only have fastboot
If anybody know what will be doing if fastboot not working only Recovery and options there not working with no one new published ota firmware like RMX1931EX_11_OTA_1380_all*
Eng.Raman said:
No, I told you just need to flash your vbmeta ( extract it from your global f.14 ofp firmware ) with the command that i have mentioned.
If the above suggestion doesn't work for you, Try flashing this boot patched img attached with the latest magisk alpha ( vb disabled ) may solve your issue using this command in bootloader mode:
fastboot flash boot boot_patched-0f71edee.img
Then after successfully booting to system install the magisk alpha app.
Good luck.
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How am I going to install this file using magisk if my system does not work? ...
I tried to do the these steps by following this guide (with EU version, i´m from Spain):
[STOCK][FASTBOOT][CN|EU|IN] Fastboot Flashable Images For RealMe X2 Pro
Disclaimer : * I'm not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards, thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed (like it did for me...). * Your warranty will be void if you tamper with any part of your device /...
forum.xda-developers.com
And this is my summary in fastboot:
C: \ ADB and Fastboot Legacy> fastboot devices
c2d59fb1 fastboot
C: \ ADB and Fastboot Legacy> fastboot flash boot boot.img
Sending 'boot' (98304 KB) OK [2.455s]
Writing 'boot' OKAY [0.577s]
Finished. Total time: 3.032s
C: \ ADB and Fastboot Legacy> fastboot flash dtbo dtbo.img
Sending 'dtbo' (24576 KB) OKAY [0.625s]
Writing 'dtbo' OKAY [0.063s]
Finished. Total time: 0.703s
C: \ ADB and Fastboot Legacy> fastboot flash system system.img
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Sending sparse 'system' 1/7 (771038 KB) OKAY [19.244s]
Writing sparse 'system' 1/7 OKAY [0.000s]
Sending sparse 'system' 2/7 (770709 KB) OK [20.034s]
Writing sparse 'system' 2/7 OKAY [0.000s]
Sending sparse 'system' 3/7 (736128 KB) OKAY [19.207s]
Writing sparse 'system' 3/7 OKAY [0.000s]
Sending sparse 'system' 4/7 (765542 KB) OK [19.987s]
Writing sparse 'system' 4/7 OKAY [0.005s]
Sending sparse 'system' 5/7 (782863 KB) OK [20.323s]
Writing sparse 'system' 5/7 OKAY [0.016s]
Sending sparse 'system' 6/7 (755973 KB) OK [19.398s]
Writing sparse 'system' 6/7 OKAY [0.016s]
Sending sparse 'system' 7/7 (293921 KB) OK [12.900s]
Writing sparse 'system' 7/7 OKAY [0.005s]
Finished. Total time: 140.173s
C: \ ADB and Fastboot Legacy> fastboot flash vbmeta vbmeta.img
Sending 'vbmeta' (8 KB) OKAY [0.009s]
Writing 'vbmeta' OKAY [0.003s]
Finished. Total time: 0.028s
C: \ ADB and Fastboot Legacy> fastboot flash vendor vendor.img
Invalid sparse file format at header magic
Sending sparse 'vendor' 1/3 (773808 KB) OKAY [19.509s]
Writing sparse 'vendor' 1/3 OKAY [0.000s]
Sending sparse 'vendor' 2/3 (757497 KB) OK [19.649s]
Writing sparse 'vendor' 2/3 OKAY [0.000s]
Sending sparse 'vendor' 3/3 (64732 KB) OK [10.325s]
Writing sparse 'vendor' 3/3 OKAY [0.000s]
Finished. Total time: 52.433s
Even doing all these steps I cannot get the phone to boot with its operating system (RealmeUI). I have to say that after doing this that red triangle with the error no longer appears ... But even so I only have fastboot, I don't even have recovery
Impakto88 said:
How am I going to install this file using magisk if my system does not work? ...
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I assume you have system and recovery because you mentioned in your first post that you flashed f.14 ofp via realme flash tool. Did you erase data after flashing ofp or not?
If Not, then erase data with this command: fastboot erase userdata
Then flash your vbmeta with the command that i have mentioned.
Eng.Raman said:
I assume you have system and recovery because you mentioned in your first post that you flashed f.14 ofp via realme flash tool. Did you erase data after flashing ofp or not?
If Not, then erase data with this command: fastboot erase userdata
Then flash your vbmeta with the command that i have mentioned.
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You have a private message mine, please read it
Impakto88 said:
You have a private message mine, please read it
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Okay bro.
After several unsuccessful attempts I had a conversation with @Eng.Raman in which he told me that there was a person who completely restored the phone by remote control. He sent me the page to get in touch with that person and feel free to do so.
I have to say that I had ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS with the person in question, quite the opposite, it was all kindness.
What that person did was access my computer and through their tools (Realme's own, I think) ... FIXED MY PHONE! IT'S A GOD !!!
Here I leave the page in case someone has the same problem or a very similar one.
Latest Flash Files And Frp Unlock - GSMMAFIA
www.gsmmafia.com
THANKS TO @Eng.Raman AND THE OTHER PERSON !!

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