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Note 9, Pixel 3, OP 6T?

I'm looking to upgrade my phone since my s7 edge isn't as supported by devs as it used to be. I'm having a hard time deciding what to get though. I've been a Samsung fan since the first Note (I like big phones), and the newest definitely has my attention for being the Fortnite phone (I like playing games on my phone) (4k mAh battery also sounds nice). The newest from OnePlus and Google seem promising though. The cameras on the Pixel are downright amazing (the notch+chin dont look that great though), yet the speed you need is with OnePlus. I could pickup an international Note 9 for about 730 USD, but I dont want to spend that much if it isn't worth the dough.
I want to get something that will last, something that I can enjoy till it dies because I flashed the wrong zip or it got stolen (I like installing custom roms and mods). I would appreciate any advice you guys could offer, and look forward to reading your responses! Thanks for reading!

I haven't had a OnePlus since the 5, so I can't comment on that device. I did have the Pixel 3 XL for a couple of days and sent it back. IMO the Pixel is not worth the price, plus stock Android is kind of boring. If you have any reservations at all about the notch do not get the Pixel. The notch is even bigger and uglier in person. I also have the iPhone Xs Max, and that notch looks great compared to the Pixel's notch. I recommend the Note 9.

But Pixel has only 4 GB RAM, OnePlus 6/6T has twice as much and x2/x4 the storage space.

All 3.

Note 9. I never been impressed by any of one plus's phones. The pixel well it's crap. It needs the software to be fixed to be usable and with no heat pipe if you are a power user the processor gets pretty warm. Used one for a day and returned it.
Note 9 is my pick for the best. No issues. I'm getting 9+ hours of sot with the snap dragon version. First Samsung phone in a long time I recommend and the first in a long time that I will use as a daily driver. It's a great overall phone and at that price it is a great deal.

Which pixel to buy?

I currently have an HTC U11 for more than 2 years and i am thinking of changing phone. I live in Italy and I don't have the opportunity to buy it in physical stores as Google is not marketed, however in this period there is a discount of 60 € in the official online store. Which to choose between 4xl and 3a xl? I have never had a google phone and it has always been my wish for many years.

4xl most definitely.

I'd rather go with 3axl. Easy on the budget with all the Google goodies and a great battery life to enjoy the experience!

Whatever one you want more

Main factor is your budget. If you can't pay for a Pixel 4 XL then go for cheaper options like the 3 XL or 3a XL (or wait for the 4a). If you can afford a 4 XL, then go for it. It'll most likely age the best if you plan on having it for 3 years.
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk

The 4xl is clearly a better phone than the 3xl. However the 3xl is no slouch and it is a very good phone for the price. So pick the phone that you are comfortable with.
If you want the features the 4xl offers and can afford it, then get that phone. If you don't want to spend that kind of money, or you really don't need the features of the 4xl, then get the 3xl. I don't think you will be disappointed in either phone as long as you make an informed decision.

Thank you all for the answers.
sic0048 said:
The 4xl is clearly a better phone than the 3xl. However the 3xl is no slouch and it is a very good phone for the price. So pick the phone that you are comfortable with.
If you want the features the 4xl offers and can afford it, then get that phone. If you don't want to spend that kind of money, or you really don't need the features of the 4xl, then get the 3xl. I don't think you will be disappointed in either phone as long as you make an informed decision.
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My choice is based on reviews seen on YouTube and opinions of users on forums like this, since I don't have the opportunity to try the phone firsthand.
The only fact that is holding me back is battery: I would have expected at least a 4000mAh in 2019, having to keep the phone for at least two years.
This, and the fact that you pay a phone around € 900: simply for a problem of principle, is it worth it to pay so much?
Was also considering OnePlus 7t/7 pro but that camera is a thumb down..

[Fenix] said:
Thank you all for the answers.
My choice is based on reviews seen on YouTube and opinions of users on forums like this, since I don't have the opportunity to try the phone firsthand.
The only fact that is holding me back is battery: I would have expected at least a 4000mAh in 2019, having to keep the phone for at least two years.
This, and the fact that you pay a phone around € 900: simply for a problem of principle, is it worth it to pay so much?
Was also considering OnePlus 7t/7 pro but that camera is a thumb down..
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Well technically the 4 XL has a better battery than the 3 XL, although in real life use I find they are about the same. Loving the 4 XL though.
But then... I loved the 3 XL at the time, so that doesn't mean much...

Pixel 4 XL. so far Great Phone.

I have better battery life with my 3a XL than the 4XL.by about 2 hours SOT. That thing was a beast for everyday use. Only fallback was no water protection.
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[Fenix] said:
Thank you all for the answers.
My choice is based on reviews seen on YouTube and opinions of users on forums like this, since I don't have the opportunity to try the phone firsthand.
The only fact that is holding me back is battery: I would have expected at least a 4000mAh in 2019, having to keep the phone for at least two years.
This, and the fact that you pay a phone around € 900: simply for a problem of principle, is it worth it to pay so much?
Was also considering OnePlus 7t/7 pro but that camera is a thumb down..
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I don't think the 4xl is worth 900€ not even close. I'd go for the OP7t which you can find on sale for about 550€ Save over 300€

It's worth for me, even for the camera alone. Besides, 7T is plagued with screen uniformity issues.

So I've made it ?
Wow this thing looks gorgeous!
Thanks all for comments

Question Are you getting a Pixel 5a?

It looks really good, but without a 90hz or higher screen, it's difficult for me to justify.

I am curious if we can trick Google to recognize a 5a as a 4a 5G, for some free "High quality backup" in Google Photos - as there aren't many differences between the two devices. Same silicon, same RAM and storage configuration, almost the same screen size.

I pre-ordered one. I got talked into it while asking about security/software updates on a budget phone forum here. It is more than I expected to spend, but people made me realize I don't know how to quantify the extra costs/risks of other manufacturers adding their own software on top of the android part that Google is patching.
I would be happy to pay less and reduce the specs further in some ways, but I am thinking about it as cost per year of software support, so I won't consider the older models that already have 1 or more years of their software life spent on the shelf... I'd probably be satisfied if it had 4GB RAM, 64GB flash, and LCD instead of OLED but with the same software. I am interested to see how the 5G works out w/ T-Mobile. (Edit: for reference, my current phone is a Moto G7 Play with 2GB RAM, 32GB flash, and a 720 pix wide screen. It is usable for me, but definitely shows its limits...)
Our last Google phone was a Nexus 5X. We went on a budget quest after that, thinking pixels were too expensive. We thought Moto was a decent value for a while, but I've been growing unhappy with their worsening software support. I.e. only 2 years and not even monthly on the budget models.

Yep, preordered mine.

No, I ordered the Galaxy S20 Plus from Google Fi for $50 less than the Pixel 5a. I am not a Samsung fan, but that's too much phone to pass up for $399.

Undecided. Would like the larger screen. If TWRP was an easy install (compared to 4a), would jump on it. Will probably wait another year (or two).

Personally, I will not. But I hope that people will be okay with the stuff that we see. It’s a lot of aspects that have been made with the stuff that we can talk about. It’s really cool that there have been solid phones over the years and I love that the Pixel continues to be a strong Android phone.

I was going to, but the camera overheating issue worries me. Want to see if that's prevalent in a wider adoption first.

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I was going to, but the camera overheating issue worries me. Want to see if that's prevalent in a wider adoption first.
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If I'm not mistaken the 4a5g as well as the 5 all have the same camera setup and all experience the same overheating issue. Therefore, if this is true and Google has not "yet" done anything to resolve the issue then either they are unwilling to fix the problem, or they are unable to do so. I'm still getting one because I rarely even use the camera on any phone.

I did pre order the Pixel 5a for myself, will get rid of my iPhone 12 Pro Max then. Last Pixel I used and still have as a secondary home device is the Pixel 4 XL, which I loved, except for the absolute crap battery life, that thing blew for battery stamina, other than that running Android 12 beta 4 on it and it's smooth as hot butter.
If the Pixel 5a has similar smooth performance as my 4 XL, I'm fine with that, but I really need great battery life for my job out in the field a lot and on the go, don't have time to charge often. And I thought last years Pixel 5 was a bit too small, and I find my 12 Pro Max a bit too large, so an in-between phone size is exactly what I want, and good battery life. 6" display too small, and 6.7"+ size too large.
Like I said if the 5a has similar smooth performance as my 4XL, then I'm all good.
And man I can't wait to be rid of iOS, just such a frustrating OS and screwy way it works and Apple Maps blows.

Pre-ordered one from Google Fi for the wife. $15/month for 2 years including insurance on their subscription plan. She doesn't want to give up her Nexus 6P so I may change over to it from my Pixel 3XL.

I want to but currently I'm on a 4a and since it's not available in Canada, I'd have to jump through hoops to get one. I have a feeling Google will be asking too much for the 6/pro. I paid over $1000cnd for the Pixel 1 & 2, then dropped back to the 3a and now the 4a. I'm more than happy with the A-series phones.

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I want to but currently I'm on a 4a and since it's not available in Canada, I'd have to jump through hoops to get one. I have a feeling Google will be asking too much for the 6/pro. I paid over $1000cnd for the Pixel 1 & 2, then dropped back to the 3a and now the 4a. I'm more than happy with the A-series phones.
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I'm no expert on things Canada, (though I was born there) but seeing how close it is to the US, and if the phone has the necessary LTE/5G bands could you not somehow import one at US prices?

jaseman said:
I'm no expert on things Canada, (though I was born there) but seeing how close it is to the US, and if the phone has the necessary LTE/5G bands could you not somehow import one at US prices?
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There in lays the trick. Apparently Google is clamping down on such shenanigans. Currently it appears my option is to have a friend who lives in Japan, order a US version, ship it there and pay import charges, then have him ship to me. I'm guessing but that'll put the cost of 5a into the 6/pro price range... And if that's the case, I'd be better off getting that directly from Google.
I'm the meantime, I'll hold onto my $'s and see what's what with the 6 and 6Pro and decide then. After all it's not like my 4a isn't doing the job

I pre-ordered. I have been holding out on replacing my 2 XL. No newer features, even flagship, were that appealing and I held out as long as I could since I cracked the screen on the 2 XL. All I need is stock android updates and long battery time. I don't play games, so not terribly concerned with the 60hz.

I preordered one as well. My first pure google phone. Can't wait to give it a try.

Pre-ordered mine along with the pixel a buds. Definitely looking forward to it. I know ill likely get one of the 6's as well lol.

I received notice that mine shipped today. It's supposed to be here Friday EOD.

If it ever launches in India, I am getting 2.

Oh well, started the RMA for mine this morning. Freezes up too often when streaming YouTube videos. Hesitates too much when scrolling through web pages. Gets hot using camera. Still on June 5th patch???? Hate the Pixel launcher. Had to put Nova on it! Just cannot compete with my OnePlus 8T. Say what you will about the evolution of OnePlus...but my last 3 phones from them have all been great! Still hard to beat for the $$$$$ I highly doubt that I will ever buy another Pixel. $35.00 restocking fee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMH

Question Are you interested in switching to a Google Pixel 7?

Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7, which seems to be an excellent smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE

Last year I preordered a Pixel 6. I was so hyped. New design, new SoC, stock Android, great camera. And then I got the device and there was problems with the screen, I had the accessibility service freeze bug and Google did nothing to fix it for months. I sent the device to RMA 2 times. Updates were delayed, more bugs came. It was a mess so I sold the device and made financial loss.
I dislike the fact that they made the display for the Pixel 7 smaller than the one of the Pixel 6, and I dislike curved edges on the pro version. Curved display edges are a stupid useless feature - it's no good for haptics and IMO it's marketing crap plus good screen protectors are either hard to find or expensive for them.
So maybe I'm gonna buy a Pixel 7. Maybe not. Right now I got a Realme GT 2 Pro and it's like the OnePlus device I always wanted, but the camera is not that good and it's missing the alert slider. BBK Electronics is not really cool and what they done to OnePlus and Oxygen OS is bad. Having a Pixel with Vanilla Android again would be nice. And the cameras are always very good on Pixels. I love that.
Let's see how much they will cost here in Germany. Maybe I'll gift one to myself for christmas. But I'll wait... not gonna preorder again. I've learned.

The "expected" differences/upgrades on the 7 PRO are not awe inspiring to me IMO (since the 6 PRO received a lot of upgrades from previous Pixels) coupled with the idea of spending $900 for minimal, or unimportant to me upgrades just doesn't make sense for my needs.
I'll wait for the 8 Pro

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Are you willing to spend as much or a little more on the new Google Pixel 7, which seems to be an excellent smartphone?
If you want to know more about the Google Pixel 7 serie, go to read HERE
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They always seem to be an excellent smartphone on paper but disappointing in reality.

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They always seem to be an excellent smartphone on paper but disappointing in reality.
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I had a Pixel 2XL and until then I never kept a device as long as I kept that one. It was great (and I used to build a ROM for it / not cooking tho, just building).

I'm planning to get the Pixel 7 and I think this could be a great phone and a competition to iPhone 14 series!

Not at that size. Way too big for me. I learned after I got the P6 that I'd never buy anything larger than my 6a. 7a is a distinct possibility though.

I'm in a watch and wait attitude for now....

Peter Johnn said:
I'm planning to get the Pixel 7 and I think this could be a great phone and a competition to iPhone 14 series!
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It might come within striking distance of the 14 and 14 Plus with their older SoCs (keeping in mind the Tensor G2 leaked performance puts it between a Snapdragon 870 and 888, nowhere near current flagship performance and current flagships can't even match the A15) but there is no chance it can come even remotely close to the Pros except in camera and charging speed (if Google chooses to increase it, I am betting it's the same 21~23W as last year). If Apple had gone to USB-C and introduced true fast charging this year I would have switched to the 14 Pro Max because I'm so tired of the random lags, overheating, battery drain, and gaming performance issues my OnePlus 9 has while my 2 year old 12 Pro Max still runs everything I have tried effortlessly. Like it's always funny watching these "speed test" videos that just test app launching speed and nothing else. Apple's optimization is next level.

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They always seem to be an excellent smartphone on paper but disappointing in reality.
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Yeah, and it feels like the software giant is least interested in their own software.

I have a Pixel 7 in my plans. I currently have Oneplus 6t for 4 years. I wanted a new Oneplus but they are big. I'm waiting for the premiere.

I have a Pixel 6 and happy with it, but miss the telephoto capability. But my 6 is only a year old, so unlikely to rush - maybe wait for a deal and see how stable folk report it to be. Seems silly to invest in a 6 Pro, when a 7 Pro would get me an extra year's updates and by the sounds of it a slightly stronger telephoto capability.... Camera quality/capability is key for me.

No, unless they stop using samsung-made tensor chips.

Tensor is fine. The long term software support is also fine.
What maynot be fine is a no so Pro SoC in the long run.
- Just my thought.

I am happy with my P6.
5G data and up to date software for buying the P6. I do not really see anything that tickles me for me to get the P7.

It's time for me to upgrade. My Pixel 3 XL is starting to have issues with the front camera, and the power button. It still runs great, but I don't want to chance some showstopper stopping me from using it soon, so I ordered a Pixel 7 yesterday. Should be a nice upgrade.

My P5 is wonderful.
But I am pre-, ordering the P7!
It just looks terrific. I only wish hazel/gold was available in P7. But I'll settle for either Snow or lemongrass. Once I decide I'll order.

I'm ready for the Pixel 7 Pro, should be a decent upgrade over my 3 and 4 XL's. I know I"m going to miss some of the features that I've grown accustomed to over the last few years (Squeeze and Face Unlock) mostly.
I'm sure I will adapt, though

NepoRood said:
I'm ready for the Pixel 7 Pro, should be a decent upgrade over my 3 and 4 XL's. I know I"m going to miss some of the features that I've grown accustomed to over the last few years (Squeeze and Face Unlock) mostly.
I'm sure I will adapt, though
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The Pixel 7 and 7pro both have face unlock

I believe it's only for phone unlock not biometric auth for apps though.

Pixel 5 Users: How are you doing?

I feel like pixel 5 is the middle child of pixel phones. It was the perfected "pre-6" formula that they kind of just dropped as a filler until the 6 came out omegle xender.
How is the phone these days? Does Android 12 run well on it? Would you still recommend it?
Interestingly, the weakest part about this phone was probably the price on launch. Now, you can snag a refurbished 5 for 400$USD or under, which is pretty crazy, and is honestly tempting to me.
How is this phone doing after the 6 released?

okrautang said:
I feel like pixel 5 is the middle child of pixel phones. It was the perfected "pre-6" formula that they kind of just dropped as a filler until the 6 came out.
How is the phone these days? Does Android 12 run well on it? Would you still recommend it?
Interestingly, the weakest part about this phone was probably the price on launch. Now, you can snag a refurbished 5 for 400$USD or under, which is pretty crazy, and is honestly tempting to me.
How is this phone doing after the 6 released?
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I've had the 5 since release date.
A12 is running very good on it.
I've held off on A12 due to personal reasons.
I'm so happy on it I may not even go for the Pixel 7 and wait for possibly the Pixel 7a (depending).
We shall see!

okrautang said:
I feel like pixel 5 is the middle child of pixel phones. It was the perfected "pre-6" formula that they kind of just dropped as a filler until the 6 came out.
How is the phone these days? Does Android 12 run well on it? Would you still recommend it?
Interestingly, the weakest part about this phone was probably the price on launch. Now, you can snag a refurbished 5 for 400$USD or under, which is pretty crazy, and is honestly tempting to me.
How is this phone doing after the 6 released?
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I scored a mint Pixel 5 on the used market for cheap. 5G connectivity and battery life was the initial incentive to upgrade an older phone. The compact form factor with edge to edge display is undeniably the highlight. The display does struggle with legibility/brightness in direct sunlight. Everything else is great including the camera, battery, performance, etc. With typical use, it can last all day.
I'm on ProtonAOSP rom with sandboxed google services so the software experience is smooth. Despite all the design changes in Android 12, it was easy to adjust to them. I expected to miss the six quick setting tiles more but it's a non-issue. I also really enjoy Material You theming since switching it up gives the phone a whole new feel.
Since the Pixel 6's release, I have kept up with news and reviews. Until some of the bugs (maybe Tensor related) in the newer Pixels are squashed, the 5 is still the better bet. You shouldn't pay more than $300 USD for a refurbished 5 now.