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Is there a method to root a Verizon Note 8 that doesn't block MAGISK from working?

Hoping this is an easy question for someone to answer - I'll do my own research this weekend when I have time and delete the question then if no one has replied. Thanks...

Probably not. The reason I bought the international version was because the snapdragon US variants have locked bootloader's..
That's why you can't flash TWRP and such.
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I got really sick, really fast, of rooting my T-Mobile S7. The only way to do it was with the special unlocked kernel, and SuperSU.
And let's be honest, SuperSU is nowhere near as useful as Magisk. At least if you're like me, and you prefer your phone to be capable of the features that root, and other various mods, available.
The US devices are cursed with the slow, and limited possibilities, that their hardware manufacturer's allow.
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I tried forever to switch my S7 over to Magisk.
Even tried things like recompiling the the special "development kernel", as I think it's called, into an Odin file, by Magisk manager.
And all my attempts always either resulted in the device refusing to even start the boot process, or Odin refusing to allow me to flash the Magisk compiled version of the kernel.. [I was using the special Odin to flash the files, too.]
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Not to say it cannot be done, but I have a feeling it's highly unlikely, unfortunately.
But if you do find a way to make it work on your Note 8, I would love to hear the process, so maybe I could revive my S7 from the sad, slow, state it's in, now.
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Unroot after custom rom install?

This is probably a stupid question with an obvious answer, but I have a question.
I want to update my phone to Android Nougat, Oreo (If there's a good ROM. All the ROMs I saw in my quick scan of the ROM forum were Nougat) and eventually P. But I have banking apps that will break if my phone is rooted. So here's what I want to do:
1) Root phone
2) Install new ROM
3) Unroot phone
4) Enjoy a better Android
Is this possible? This feels like a dumb question and I feel like the answer ought to be yes. But I don't want to waste an evening or two rooting if there's zero chance of it actually working.

Of course you can. If you root your phone with magisk, there is also an uninstaller script. There should be something also for superSU. The main problem is that there are no custom roms for p9+, so eventually you'll just get official oreo.

"Eventually"
My phone is carrier-branded to Uplus in Korea. They haven't update the phone in the 1 1/2 years I've had it. I've got little expectation that they're going to start now.

What will I lose if I decide to root and install xposed?

I have the 12gb/512gb variant with WW rom from ebay. I am very happy with the phone and I love it a bunch. I've always been an avid android power user and with several of my previous phones I have always ran a custom rooted rom.
Now, my question is, recently I understand that Magisk and edxposed don't hide themselves all that well from banking apps. My primary concerns are google pay and the banking apps I have, is anyone right now running root with magisk and presumably edxposed with the safetynet passed? What other things may I potentially lose if I go down that road?
Additionally, does edxposed offer all the benefits xposed did when I ran it on kitkat and nougat? Thank you for your wisdom, I truly appreciate it!

I would like to know, too.
I remember I did root my phone's when Android KitKat was the latest Android version.
Xposed was very useful in customising the phone. Nowadays, companies like Samsung offer alot of customizing options from their own software.
How about with the Asus Rog Phone 2?
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MrKioFLow said:
I have the 12gb/512gb variant with WW rom from ebay. I am very happy with the phone and I love it a bunch. I've always been an avid android power user and with several of my previous phones I have always ran a custom rooted rom.
Now, my question is, recently I understand that Magisk and edxposed don't hide themselves all that well from banking apps. My primary concerns are google pay and the banking apps I have, is anyone right now running root with magisk and presumably edxposed with the safetynet passed? What other things may I potentially lose if I go down that road?
Additionally, does edxposed offer all the benefits xposed did when I ran it on kitkat and nougat? Thank you for your wisdom, I truly appreciate it!
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but my guess is that your phone has been flashed with the WW rom. Meaning it's not the genuine software that came with the device which should be a CN rom instead since the international version isn't out yet. Unless the device is imported from one of the countries with the WW rom onboard.
How to know?, Simple have you gotten an OTA update since you got it, when you try to update manually what message you get?.
If my hypothesis is correct, then it means you will not get future updates unless you are back to the rom that came with the device. Anyway what does all of this mean, it means you have to 2 options to consider. Either go to ASUS service center near you tell them about your device and I think they will be able to flash back the CN rom that came with the device for a small fee or maybe for free depending on your luck. The other option is to simply root, might as well do it since you have lost OTA updates anyway until a solution is figured out by the community.
Coming back to your question, what are the drawbacks of rooting. Well only 2; the loss of warranty and future OTA updates pretty much that's it.

Rashad83 said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but my guess is that your phone has been flashed with the WW rom. Meaning it's not the genuine software that came with the device which should be a CN rom instead since the international version isn't out yet. Unless the device is imported from one of the countries with the WW rom onboard.
How to know?, Simple have you gotten an OTA update since you got it, when you try to update manually what message you get?.
If my hypothesis is correct, then it means you will not get future updates unless you are back to the rom that came with the device. Anyway what does all of this mean, it means you have to 2 options to consider. Either go to ASUS service center near you tell them about your device and I think they will be able to flash back the CN rom that came with the device for a small fee or maybe for free depending on your luck. The other option is to simply root, might as well do it since you have lost OTA updates anyway until a solution is figured out by the community.
Coming back to your question, what are the drawbacks of rooting. Well only 2; the loss of warranty and future OTA updates pretty much that's it.
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Loss of warranty for a $850 phone is a big deal and on top of that no OTA is a big bummer if we can't get updates to improve performance.
I just hope I don't need to root just to get Nova Launcher working with the global model.
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Rashad83 said:
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but my guess is that your phone has been flashed with the WW rom. Meaning it's not the genuine software that came with the device which should be a CN rom instead since the international version isn't out yet. Unless the device is imported from one of the countries with the WW rom onboard.
How to know?, Simple have you gotten an OTA update since you got it, when you try to update manually what message you get?.
If my hypothesis is correct, then it means you will not get future updates unless you are back to the rom that came with the device. Anyway what does all of this mean, it means you have to 2 options to consider. Either go to ASUS service center near you tell them about your device and I think they will be able to flash back the CN rom that came with the device for a small fee or maybe for free depending on your luck. The other option is to simply root, might as well do it since you have lost OTA updates anyway until a solution is figured out by the community.
Coming back to your question, what are the drawbacks of rooting. Well only 2; the loss of warranty and future OTA updates pretty much that's it.
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By the looks of it I think you are right. I am still on the older variant of the WW rom and all my paperwork and supporting documents are in Chinese. In any case, that doesn't bother me all that much as I have 30 days to return it and hopefully the global variant is announced by then, so I can fully compare the two.
With WW already being flashed over CN then I am not worried about warranty as it is already void with them flashing WW over, and if I go the root path I can flash whatever variants I choose, presuming I know what I am doing. So to follow up, what do you think about safetynet passing? OTA and warranty are not my primary concerns, my day to day use of the phone is. If I cannot use my finance apps along with google pay, that is a bigger hit than warranty ever will be. Thank you for your response.

MrKioFLow said:
By the looks of it I think you are right. I am still on the older variant of the WW rom and all my paperwork and supporting documents are in Chinese. In any case, that doesn't bother me all that much as I have 30 days to return it and hopefully the global variant is announced by then, so I can fully compare the two.
With WW already being flashed over CN then I am not worried about warranty as it is already void with them flashing WW over, and if I go the root path I can flash whatever variants I choose, presuming I know what I am doing. So to follow up, what do you think about safetynet passing? OTA and warranty are not my primary concerns, my day to day use of the phone is. If I cannot use my finance apps along with google pay, that is a bigger hit than warranty ever will be. Thank you for your response.
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Regarding SafetyNet I heard from others who flashed the latest WW rom, SafteyNet passes but not the case on the previous rom. Anyway regarding my device I have no issues with SafteyNet or banking apps. If you want my opinion i would advise to return the device if possible and to get the international version instead if not you can also get SafteyNet to pass either by updating to the latest WW rom or by rooting and altering some code lines to making it pass.

Has Google gotten much stricter when it comes to rooting?

I've been an Android user for a long time and was into the rooting and custom ROM scene in the days of the DROID phones, Nexus, and early Pixel devices.
Once I got my Pixel 3 and then a Samsung S20 after that I didn't really have a reason to root any longer as I didn't want to mess with custom ROMs.
Now I'm using a Pixel 5 and while I still don't really want to root it seems to be the only way to hide the nav bar in conjunction with Fluid Navigation Gestures. This is a big deal for me as I have been using FNG for years now and really don't like Google's default gesture nav. I'm using 3-button nav for now but would love to get FNG back.
Anyways, I'm looking into rooting the Pixel 5 and the process seems much more involved then it used to be, and I see lots of people talking about not getting OTA updates (minor security patches, not even whole Android version updates).
From what I remember back when I was rooting phones ~5 years ago it was much simpler and did not preclude you from getting OTA updates. Especially on Nexus devices, and even early Pixels if I'm remembering correctly, rooting was simple and didn't break when you updated.
Amy I remembering this correctly? Is Google cracking down on rooting much more these days? I would just be so happy if I could get proper FNG back, this phone would be absolutely perfect for me if I could just do that without much fuss.

skytbest said:
I've been an Android user for a long time and was into the rooting and custom ROM scene in the days of the DROID phones, Nexus, and early Pixel devices.
Once I got my Pixel 3 and then a Samsung S20 after that I didn't really have a reason to root any longer as I didn't want to mess with custom ROMs.
Now I'm using a Pixel 5 and while I still don't really want to root it seems to be the only way to hide the nav bar in conjunction with Fluid Navigation Gestures. This is a big deal for me as I have been using FNG for years now and really don't like Google's default gesture nav. I'm using 3-button nav for now but would love to get FNG back.
Anyways, I'm looking into rooting the Pixel 5 and the process seems much more involved then it used to be, and I see lots of people talking about not getting OTA updates (minor security patches, not even whole Android version updates).
From what I remember back when I was rooting phones ~5 years ago it was much simpler and did not preclude you from getting OTA updates. Especially on Nexus devices, and even early Pixels if I'm remembering correctly, rooting was simple and didn't break when you updated.
Amy I remembering this correctly? Is Google cracking down on rooting much more these days? I would just be so happy if I could get proper FNG back, this phone would be absolutely perfect for me if I could just do that without much fuss.
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I can't speak for the topjohnwu (Magisk "Magic" man) but for us end users, rooting is pretty easy for Pixel phones. Install Magisk manager, put copy of boot.img on phone, patch it through Magisk manager, put patched boot image on pc and flash it in fastboot. All after unlocking bootloader and enabling USB first.
I've always downloaded and installed my own updates so getting ota's is not an issue for me. I use FNG as well.
I had the original Samsung Nexus. First phone I ever rooted. I had so much fun with that phone. Seems like there was a limitless amount of custom roms. I was hooked.

It may seem that way as we do not have TWRP so you're doing different steps. They aren't necessarily harder steps, just different. I've only owned this phone for 1 update cycle but it took perhaps 10-15 minutes to upgrade, re-root and be back up and running as I was before.

Tulsadiver said:
had the original Samsung Nexus. First phone I ever rooted. I had so much fun with that phone. Seems like there was a limitless amount of custom roms. I was hooked.
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Those wher the days! I just had mine in my hands a few hours ago, when i was rumaging in my old phones box...

Ducter said:
It may seem that way as we do not have TWRP so you're doing different steps. They aren't necessarily harder steps, just different. I've only owned this phone for 1 update cycle but it took perhaps 10-15 minutes to upgrade, re-root and be back up and running as I was before.
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Thanks for the reply. When you rooted the phone originally did you have to do a factory reset? And when you update and re-root do you have to reinstall the magisk modules or does everything just start working again like it was before the update?

Tulsadiver said:
I can't speak for the topjohnwu (Magisk "Magic" man) but for us end users, rooting is pretty easy for Pixel phones. Install Magisk manager, put copy of boot.img on phone, patch it through Magisk manager, put patched boot image on pc and flash it in fastboot. All after unlocking bootloader and enabling USB first.
I've always downloaded and installed my own updates so getting ota's is not an issue for me. I use FNG as well.
I had the original Samsung Nexus. First phone I ever rooted. I had so much fun with that phone. Seems like there was a limitless amount of custom roms. I was hooked.
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Thanks. Do you have to wipe the phone as part of the rooting process?
Also, when you do update do you have to re-enable 3-button nav so that when you are unrooted (after update) you can use the phone? Do all the magisk modules and other root-only things just come back on their own once the phone is rooted again?

skytbest said:
Thanks. Do you have to wipe the phone as part of the rooting process?
Also, when you do update do you have to re-enable 3-button nav so that when you are unrooted (after update) you can use the phone? Do all the magisk modules and other root-only things just come back on their own once the phone is rooted again?
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Unlocking bootloader will wipe your phone. Most of your settings are remembered when applying new firmware as long as you remove the -w from the update-all.bat
It is recommended that you remove all modules before updates so that when you re-root you don't bootloop (in case the mods need updated to new firmware).

Question Question regarding root and updates?

Hey there guys,
I just received my s21 ultra (G998B) and planning to root it. I had a few questions since I’m new to this and wanted some clarifications:
1) If I root the phone can I update it OTA through the settings or do I have to update it by another method? Will I lose root/data/apps if I do that?
2) If I lose root when updating it, can I just root again and be all set? Or do I have to follow another procedure for that?
3) I am planning to debloat a few apps and services that I won’t be using, if I update the system/software will the stuff that I debloated come back and will I have to do the debloat again?
Thank you for all the help.

paul_cherma said:
Hey there guys,
I just received my s21 ultra (G998B) and planning to root it. I had a few questions since I’m new to this and wanted some clarifications:
1) If I root the phone can I update it OTA through the settings or do I have to update it by another method? Will I lose root/data/apps if I do that?
2) If I lose root when updating it, can I just root again and be all set? Or do I have to follow another procedure for that?
3) I am planning to debloat a few apps and services that I won’t be using, if I update the system/software will the stuff that I debloated come back and will I have to do the debloat again?
Thank you for all the help.
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1- Probably not usually the root or recovery will block OTA updates from installing, even if they download.
2- If you lose root, you can USUALLY re-root assuming the same root method wasnt patched. If it was patched, a new root method (though probably still through magisk) will be needed. If this is the case, its up to the dev to find that method, you might be without root for a while.
3-if you debloat, and receive an OTA, your will probably need to de-bloat again, thought I havent personally had experience with this.
Why are you rooting? Just to de-bloat? If so, root isn't really necessary...

As someone who's been in the rooting stage for many years, i can answer your questions.
1. You can not update your phone through OTA updates after rooting the device, as the device was modified in an unauthorized way. And since you own a galaxy phone, the e-fuse within the motherboard will blow and knox will be permanently blown. You can no longer use samsung pay, google pay, and any other app that uses the safetynet api, even after you unroot the device.
2. You will lose root every time you update. You will need ODIN on your PC in order to properly update your firmware and to re-root your device by following the procedure again that you used to root your device, unless samsung patched the method you used to root your device. You can always check what bootloader version you're on within the firmware. For example, on the galaxy S8, the firmware version is N950U1UES5CRG9. The 5th to last number of the firmware will tell you. In this case, N950U1UES5CRG9 is the 5th bootloader version. Keep this in mind once samsung starts to update your phone often.
3. You will have to debloat again from scratch. In order to fully update your device through ODIN, you need to download the full firmware file containing an AP (Firmware), BL (Bootloader) , CP (Modem), and CSC (Carrier File) and manually flash them.
Do keep in mind, it is possible to soft brick or even hard brick your device, so back up your data frequently if you decide to tinker with your device.

Thank you for the detailed answer. I just updated my software to the latest official one by Samsung (April 1st security patch) but I am not rooted yet. I guess I could live with the fact that I can root the phone now and stay on this software version/security patch until I upgrade, since I would have to go through a lot of hassle to set-up the phone the way I wanted. But the main reason why I want to get the official updates is because of the camera improvements that Samsung does, since the main reason of me getting this phone is the camera. And there are some root-required tweaks that I absolutely need such as Viper, and some xposed tweaks also. I like the Stock ROM of Samsung, it really has come a long way at least imo throughout the years, as I have been a Samsung user since day 1 but:
Would it be a good idea to install a custom ROM then? I am reading the description of a few custom ROMs and it seems like I can “retain everything” by simply dirty flashing the ROM and following the dev’s instructions on how to retain root whenever the developer updates it. Is that a better route to take you think? I can keep my device rooted, and still get the updates through a custom ROM.

paul_cherma said:
Thank you for the detailed answer. I just updated my software to the latest official one by Samsung (April 1st security patch) but I am not rooted yet. I guess I could live with the fact that I can root the phone now and stay on this software version/security patch until I upgrade, since I would have to go through a lot of hassle to set-up the phone the way I wanted. But the main reason why I want to get the official updates is because of the camera improvements that Samsung does, since the main reason of me getting this phone is the camera. And there are some root-required tweaks that I absolutely need such as Viper, and some xposed tweaks also. I like the Stock ROM of Samsung, it really has come a long way at least imo throughout the years, as I have been a Samsung user since day 1 but:
Would it be a good idea to install a custom ROM then? I am reading the description of a few custom ROMs and it seems like I can “retain everything” by simply dirty flashing the ROM and following the dev’s instructions on how to retain root whenever the developer updates it. Is that a better route to take you think? I can keep my device rooted, and still get the updates through a custom ROM.
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That really varies depending on the custom rom you go for. Usually when you dirty flash a rom, you would need to re root your device, but some (not all) roms are persistent with root after system updates. Do keep in mind if you switch to a custom rom, your system might be more buggy and crash more often. One thing i will say though is that xposed is outdated. The last android version xposed officially supported was either 8 or 9. When it has to come down to certain mods you'd wish to have with root, take that into consideration too, as it might make your device really unstable if it's too outdated or if there's a buggy port available. I've dealt with that issue too many times on my phones.

HighOnLinux said:
That really varies depending on the custom rom you go for. Usually when you dirty flash a rom, you would need to re root your device, but some (not all) roms are persistent with root after system updates. Do keep in mind if you switch to a custom rom, your system might be more buggy and crash more often. One thing i will say though is that xposed is outdated. The last android version xposed officially supported was either 8 or 9. When it has to come down to certain mods you'd wish to have with root, take that into consideration too, as it might make your device really unstable if it's too outdated or if there's a buggy port available. I've dealt with that issue too many times on my phones.
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if xposed is outdated, what is the new thing the comunity is migrating to? All the privacy, security, and customizability tools available through xposed must go somewhere, right?

Twodordan said:
if xposed is outdated, what is the new thing the comunity is migrating to? All the privacy, security, and customizability tools available through xposed must go somewhere, right?
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There's buggy ports thats flashable on magisk. While you still can get xposed, it'll be an unofficial version, and more likely to run into issues within your rom and daily use into your device.

HighOnLinux said:
There's buggy ports thats flashable on magisk. While you still can get xposed, it'll be an unofficial version, and more likely to run into issues within your rom and daily use into your device.
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I mean xprivacy on xposed was the must have killer feature for any android device to turn your device into anything other than a privacy nightmare. If we can't do that any more we are f'd.
[EDIT] Looks like the new version of xprivacy, xprivacyLua is still supported for android 11, with magisk and EdXposed or LSPosed:
[CLOSED][APP][XPOSED][6.0+] XPrivacyLua - Android privacy manager [UNSUPPORTED]
XPrivacyLua Really simple to use privacy manager for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and later (successor of XPrivacy). Revoking Android permissions from apps often let apps crash or malfunction. XPrivacyLua solves this by feeding apps fake data...
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XPrivacyLua/README.md at master · M66B/XPrivacyLua
Really simple to use privacy manager for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and later - XPrivacyLua/README.md at master · M66B/XPrivacyLua
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