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I only have 5 widgets, and my brightness is also low as possible. I have wifi off when i don't use it, but my battery still dies kinda fast. Should i delete cell standby? And what else can i do?
You really should define "kinda fast" so folks can answer objectively
Well just playing games like angry birds for 20 minutes it drops like 10%
EverythingNook said:
Well just playing games like angry birds for 20 minutes it drops like 10%
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1) Which ROM
2) What widgets
3) What are you using to monitor battery drop
10% in 20 minutes (screen on, in use) is pretty aggressive.
HotShotAzn said:
1) Which ROM
2) What widgets
3) What are you using to monitor battery drop
10% in 20 minutes (screen on, in use) is pretty aggressive.
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1. Stock with launcherpro
2. Typoclock power control beautiful battery google search and music
3. Beautiful battery
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1. Stock with launcherpro
2. Typoclock power control beautiful battery google search and music
3. Beautiful battery
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What drain are you seeing with screen off/idle?
with the screen off for about 5 hours i saw a 21% drain.
Drop the widgets and livewallpaper if you've got it. Retest standby.
If you're getting high battery drain during standby your nook isn't going into deep sleep and chances are that background overhead translates to poor efficiency at idle when the nook is on as well. Couple poor idle efficiency with CPU intensive work while in use and your overall battery life is terrible.
If you're forcing the nook to stay out of deep sleep for other reasons like keeping wifi alive then you may be stuck with living with some sort of elevated drain but you can minimize it by reducing idle overhead by keeping widgets to a minimum and refraining from using live wallpapers and other background services that aren't critical.
Tacking on to here rather than starting a new thread...
My Nook Color rooted, but still on stock ROM goes from 100% charge to 25% in about 8-9 hours with zero usage. Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running. I do have Google Voice app installed.
What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
Thanks in advance!
distortedloop said:
Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running.
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If you suspect it, disable it and see. I'm thinking that would be a prime suspect.
distortedloop said:
What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
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I believe typically overnight you should see less than 10% drain.
In CM7 at least, in Spare Parts you can see what uses the battery while the NC is asleep.
distortedloop said:
Tacking on to here rather than starting a new thread...
My Nook Color rooted, but still on stock ROM goes from 100% charge to 25% in about 8-9 hours with zero usage. Obviously something's going on (I suspect it's that I have Advanced WiFi sleep policy set to never and am away from WiFi), but no other widgets running. I do have Google Voice app installed.
What I'm curious about is what would normal standby battery drain be? What would be typical after 8-9 hours of just sitting untouched in my brief case?
Thanks in advance!
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do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
hxh103 said:
do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
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No, not yet. It's 100% stock, other than rooting and downloading apps. I'm going to put SystemPanel on it and see if it gives a clue.
I've got a good idea of how to track down battery issues on most android devices, I was just mostly curious what the typical drain other rooted users saw was.
Thx for the suggestions to all.
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do you have it overclocked? if so, have a profile that clocks it down to 300mhz when the screen is locked
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Good lord, this isn't going to help anything. Normal Nook Colors on the stock ROM (and kernel....) use about .2%/hr in standby.
Clearly something is running wild on this guys NC, and needs to look at Spare Parts. Install it from the market.
System Panel as well as other tools can help as well.
Okay, I'm a pretty smart guy usually, but I'll publicly put on the dunce cap and admit to my ignorance on this one.
System Panel actually showed some amazingly good lack of drain with all my apps running.
The reason my battery was so low when I checked it each afternoon is because even though I thought I was charging the thing over night, I wasn't. I was using a regular micro-usb cable for my phone to plug the thing in most nights.
Turns out the Nook Color has an extra deep micro-usb receptacle and requires a better endowed male plug to get it charged properly.
Lame...
(Lame of me, but also lame of B&N to make such a design decision. What were they thinking? I HATE proprietary connectors.)
distortedloop said:
Okay, I'm a pretty smart guy usually, but I'll publicly put on the dunce cap and admit to my ignorance on this one.
System Panel actually showed some amazingly good lack of drain with all my apps running.
The reason my battery was so low when I checked it each afternoon is because even though I thought I was charging the thing over night, I wasn't. I was using a regular micro-usb cable for my phone to plug the thing in most nights.
Turns out the Nook Color has an extra deep micro-usb receptacle and requires a better endowed male plug to get it charged properly.
Lame...
(Lame of me, but also lame of B&N to make such a design decision. What were they thinking? I HATE proprietary connectors.)
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Extra WIDE, not deep. And there's good reason USB standards are .5A over the typical 4 pin connection. The B&N cable has FOUR extra pins, delivering the other 1.4A of power.
Extra deep. Two stages...
First stage 5 pins, second stage 12 pins...
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Yup same cable as my Droid2 and Droid before it....
Krazypoloc said:
Yup same cable as my Droid2 and Droid before it....
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Does this mean we can use the droid2 and droid's cables as alternatives?
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Extra WIDE, not deep. And there's good reason USB standards are .5A over the typical 4 pin connection. The B&N cable has FOUR extra pins, delivering the other 1.4A of power.
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Thanks for the extra info about the additional voltage; so it will charge much faster this way? (rhetorical question)
I still am annoyed at yet another non-standard cable that I'll have to carry around with me when I travel to keep various devices charged, but in the scheme of things it's a minor annoyance. Stuff like this should be standardized, IMHO.
And it's extra DEEP, not wide. It's the same width as a standard micro-usb cable or I wouldn't have been able to stick my phone's charging cable into it at all, but I was able to, it just didn't go in deep enough to charge at all. On the flips side, the B&N cable fits into my phone, but only inserts half-way deep; if it were extra wide it wouldn't fit into my phone at all.
I figured this would be a good place to have a General thread discussion the problems and solutions for the newly released Verizon Lollipop update.
- Excessive Battery Drain seems to be the main issue
- Power LED Notification light stays lit - may have been fixed by using updated partition components
player911 said:
I figured this would be a good place to have a General thread discussion the problems and solutions for the newly released Verizon Lollipop update.
- Excessive Battery Drain seems to be the main issue
- Power LED Notification light stays lit - may have been fixed by using updated partition components
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The power led does not stay lit. it's due to the new feature in the rom that allows the rear lights to stay on with new downloaded apps. unclick that and its fine.
-Slow AC charging. Even when using the OEM cable and adapter.
Anyone else have gps issues? No lock.
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LTE
I do not have access to LTE, It doesn't show up under network type and strength.
Any ideas?
I've had no major issues with xdabbebs stock ROM. I can't seem to add widgets to the lock screen. Is this no longer an option ?
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I've had no major issues with xdabbebs stock ROM. I can't seem to add widgets to the lock screen. Is this no longer an option ?
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Was it available on stock? I think we forget what functionality stock has since we probably haven't used it in so long. You could kdz back to KK and see.
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Was it available on stock? I think we forget what functionality stock has since we probably haven't used it in so long. You could kdz back to KK and see.
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It was an option on his 2.3.0 ROM which was basically stock LG. I updated my N10 to 5.1 and lost the feature on it as well. I was using dashclock widget for quite some time on both.
z3pp3lin said:
Was it available on stock? I think we forget what functionality stock has since we probably haven't used it in so long. You could kdz back to KK and see.
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It was an option on his 2.3.0 ROM which was basically stock LG. I updated my N10 to 5.1 and lost the feature on it as well. I was using dashclock widget for quite some time on both.
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Google removed lockscreen widgets in Lollipop
Lock Screen
I'm trying to figure out what clicking on a notification on the lock screen is suppose to do. When i click on it it just shows an empty box. Kind of looks like a blank, missing lockscreen widget. Am I missing something here? I would think it would take me to the app or maybe give me an un-truncated version of what I clicked.
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player911 said:
I figured this would be a good place to have a General thread discussion the problems and solutions for the newly released Verizon Lollipop update.
- Excessive Battery Drain seems to be the main issue
- Power LED Notification light stays lit - may have been fixed by using updated partition components
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Battery drain is an issue. I'm hoping after a few days of the new update settling in it will get better..
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I'm trying to figure out what clicking on a notification on the lock screen is suppose to do. When i click on it it just shows an empty box. Kind of looks like a blank, missing lockscreen widget. Am I missing something here? I would think it would take me to the app or maybe give me an un-truncated version of what I clicked.
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Wireless charging
I still need to do more testing and observation with this, but my phone hasn't charged at all the last 2 nights while sitting on my wireless charger at home. It's a cheap charger that claims 1A max input (I think) plugged into the LG official charger which is 1.8A. Meanwhile, at work I have an official LG Qi wireless charger using another official LG power supply @ 1.8A. I installed Ampere just now and my wireless charger only registers +20mA. My battery was at 78% and wasn't hot, so it should have drawn more power. I plug the USB cable directly into my phone and Ampere reports around +930mA. I put it back onto the Qi charger and it still says 20mA, yet the battery is charging at a normal rate (from 78% to 92% in like 20 or 30 minutes). i'm curious what Ampere will show on my other wireless charger, the one that has failed to charge my phone the last 2 or 3 nights.
I tried searching for this app I used to use that had a widget that would show you current power draw, then also had historical data with graphs and all. Ampere is bare-bones just shows you current power draw, so it's not nearly as useful. I need to find that other battery app but there are like 30 apps named Battery Widget...does anyone know which app I'm talking about? (EDIT: Found it. It's Battery Monitor Widget, by 3C. It only shows +15mA on wireless charger and +300mA with direct charging while battery at 96%).
UPDATE: Battery Monitor Widget (BMW, hehe) is showing me some more stats for wireless charging and it's not stuck at +15mA the whole time. I think I'll pay the $1.13 to remove ads since AdAway isn't blocking them. I just need to drain my battery and charge it up a few times to get some more info. My battery was already at 96% when I started looking with this app, so the numbers should be low. I see a few entries where it was at +61mA or +42mA, which seems about right for when it's at 99% or 100% battery level.
I don't have a g2 anymore. I have a g3. I wanted to know if anyone is having a audio Bluetooth streaming issue in their car. I use a pioneer avh x4600bt and the music skips excessively after 30 seconds of play.
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I don't have a g2 anymore. I have a g3. I wanted to know if anyone is having a audio Bluetooth streaming issue in their car. I use a pioneer avh x4600bt and the music skips excessively after 30 seconds of play.
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Not on 4.4.2. Stream audio for 50 mins each way to and from work almost every day and no issues. Haven't made the lollipop upgrade yet, phone works pretty good as is and don't want to take a battery life hit.
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Not on 4.4.2. Stream audio for 50 mins each way to and from work almost every day and no issues. Haven't made the lollipop upgrade yet, phone works pretty good as is and don't want to take a battery life hit.
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Thanks for the response. I didn't have any problems when I was on kit kat either. I was wondering if anyone had this problem with Bluetooth streaming on lollipop.
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I seems to have battery drain in only stand by mode. I don't know if there is a way to find out if device deep sleeps without a root.
Anybody?
Mainly it will not charge properly (6-10 hours for full charge), and it loses charge if you're navigating or using Pandora while plugged in.
Sometimes the whole OS becomes unresponsive, but I think that's mainly from the task manager that was set to clear ram every 12 hours. I turned that off.
The dismal GPS was promised to be fixed with lollipop, and it still sucks just as much as ever.
2 things they got right, however. Auto screen brightness is almost perfect except when it auto dims because it gets warm. Also the camera is faster in the dark! Finally.
It's like the wired charging is being limited. Wireless charging feels the same to me as it did on KitKat, but I wasn't measuring the charging while on KitKat. I have almost never charged my G2 by plugging it in, but when I do I see really low values and it takes just as long as wireless charging takes. However, I don't lose power if charging while doing stuff like Pandora, at least I don't think I do. I will do a little test and see, but I'll use something a lot more power-hungry than Pandora, like maybe Trials Frontier with full brightness.
EDIT: OK I have some results of a little test:
I played Trials Frontier @ full brightness and no charging for 30 minutes or so. The battery was draining at around 27% per hour or -300mA (-300 seems wrong. I would expect something more like -750mA). I went from 98% to 83%.
I then put it on the wireless charger in landscape, which makes it a little bit of guess-work trying to line it up perfectly with the Qi charger. I continued playing the game for 25 minutes or so. When done, I had 84% battery. It barely gained any charge, but it charged nonetheless. I see two readings in this time frame: first one says I gained 6% an hour and 68mA, the second one said 0% change per hour and -127mA (not sure why it claims 0% for that).
I think what happened was the battery got warm and it cut the charging rate, but I don't know at what temps it does this and stuff. I believe I would lose battery level if I kept playing but I'm not sure. Battery was at 41°C at the time it said my usage was 0% per hour, -127mA.
I think I need to have a lower battery level to start with, then try wireless vs wired and stuff. Has this already been done and I'm just wasting time? I am just curious about wired vs wireless at this point I think.
I want to report something. I found why my battery was draining. It was Google Now. I never used it, but somehow it got activated during upgrade. I signed out and drain stopped. I hope this would help somebody.
After two days on stock 39A
Battery seems to charge A LOT slower on non LG charges. Using the Lg charger and cable seems a bit slower but Ok. I have two G2s one on 27A and one on 39A. Using the stock charger and cable the phone on 27A draws about 1200 mA the one on 39A draws 700 mA. If I use an older charger the phone on 27A draws 800 mA the one on 39A draws 200 mA or less.
Battery drain seems a bit worse on 39A but not terrible. I am comparing to the 27A rooted and debloated. Considering all the extra junk that now runs in the background it's not unexpected.
BT streaming in the car has greatly improved for me with the 39A update. I can now use Viber and Skype call in my car and even switch between phone calls and skype calls. Music streaming also works much better.
Sorry I posted this elsewhere before I found the tasker section.
I only use a standard wireless charger at night. I want to create a profile that only run if my phone is SLOW wireless charging. All my other wireless chargers are fast so it would only run when I went to bed and I wouldn't have specify a time etc.
Is there a way to do this or a plug-in that can help? I don't want to root.
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Sorry I posted this elsewhere before I found the tasker section.
I only use a standard wireless charger at night. I want to create a profile that only run if my phone is SLOW wireless charging. All my other wireless chargers are fast so it would only run when I went to bed and I wouldn't have specify a time etc.
Is there a way to do this or a plug-in that can help? I don't want to root.
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Well, you could set more parameters for sleeping, like alarm set/charging after xx time etc..
But well, only thing I can think of is to get tasker to read notification and if it reads "fast charging" do xx.
Could buy a magnet and use the magnetic field sensor as a 2nd trigger if you always use the same wireless charger in the same place. I'm a tasker newbie, let me know if that's a dumb idea.
Those are both good ideas. I never thought of using the notification. I just wonder if I goes off once charging is complete. Nfc tags are an option. I have never used them before for this they would work perfectly. I will have to experiment.
Install Broadcast monitor from google store and have a look if you can see the intent sent by battery and if you can somehow tell the difference between slow and fast chargers - you would have to try both and write results down and compare them.
Intents uses very low power, so its a good option if its going to work
Cheers for that. The notification thing is a no go as it doesn't register in tasker despite showing in the notification bar.
I had a look at broadcast monitor. There appear to 2. Internal broadcasts monitor and broadcasts monitor plus. Is it one of those? Both don't seem to have been updated in a while.
I have attached my intents for charging/discharging state.
Look for charge_type - maybe this changes depends on what charger you use?
Have a look, test it and maybe you will get what you need?
You would then use something like %charge_type if > 1 then this or that
This worked for my wifi using %newrssi value.
Hi there,
since I don't want to root my main phone (don't want to hassle around with some apps that try to block on rooted phones, and also don't want to enable that stupid google voice assistant to use google maps and so on) I want to buy a phone just for Android Auto. This phone will be rooted and stay in the car all time, it could also get a custom ROM. Since I don't have any experience with AA mirror yet and also not that much experience with rooting, it would be great if you have some suggestions what I could get for this use case.
From what I found here so far, the requirements seem to be:
- easy to root
- possible to install custom roms
- will have the display turned on (for AA mirror) for several hours whenever traveling a longer distance
-- maybe heat could be an issue?
- should not have the cheapest battery since it will be charged for long times when traveling as well as not charged at all for several days
-- unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be smartphones anymore that can be used with batteries pulled out
-- is there anything to be considered because of the always-usb-connected use case
- preferably a cheap model from a premium manufacturer
Any suggestion for my decicion or experience with a dedicated phone would be helpful.
Have you considered a raspberry pi?
There are plug n play rom do get that up and running as a AA display
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can you please hep me with the raspberry pi to make aa diplay for my skoda bolero mib 2.0 android auto?
Every phone should work.
It's only important that you use an app like Automate to put the phone into airplane mode whenever the cable is disconnected (=car head unit shut off). This requires root.
I personally use an old Galaxy S4 with ridicously bad battery health and it stays on for around 2 days without driving. It charges while you're driving, of course.
No issues with heat. I keep it in the burning hot glovebox.
I am doing this for a year now. I use an old nexus 5x.
Until now i had a original based custom rom, but just ysterday i wanted to refresh some things so i installed slim rom. (It is very light and dont have play services. I then installed pico gapps. It is the lighter you can flash so that android auto to work).
I use 7.1.2 custom rom because i think is better for android auto.
Anyway what i have:
-I used a switch (on/of), soldered in a cable so tha start / stop android auto just by turning on/off the switch.
- I disabled completely lockscreen. Set brightness to min and disable auto brightness.
- Use titanium to freeze whatever i don't need. Many things including phone app, etc)
- I used tasker. 2 conditions:
When phone doesn't charge set battery save mode.
When car mode is enabled (which means android auto is running) enable wifi on, location on etc. When car mode of disable all, also kill 20 apps (so that no app stay in background so no battery consumption when android auto goes off).
(some use only charging condition but my setup is more complicated so this works fantastic.)
With this, i practically can use android auto without ever battery discharge. When phone doesn't change and android auto doesn't run, battery consumption is very very low. It can Last more than 20 days and battery is very old.
I actually have some more complicated setup. When switch is off i change from another usb of the car (not the one i use for android auto). I have in this usb a changer with more amper to charge faster when i don't use android auto..
I don't propose it as this is much difficult for the average person. Just write it as an idea if car doesn't change fast (this happens in my car).
I posted my use / ideas. Some may be useful to some, some other not.
I may post a video here displaying it some time when i found time and tasker setup if anyone need it as many wants this. I have read alot to do this in varius sites.
I'll post it here also:
I made a 4 minutes video displaying android auto mirroring in my car, with some apps and a dedicated phone with a switch for this. It may give some ideas:
sosimple said:
I'll post it here also:
I made a 4 minutes video displaying android auto mirroring in my car, with some apps and a dedicated phone with a switch for this. It may give some ideas:
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Hi .
What rom do you recommend for S5?
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Hi .
What rom do you recommend for S5?
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You mean galaxy s5?, I don't have s5. I had it in past. I would install something similar to the rom i installed to nexus 5x i have.
The lighter nougat rom with pico gapps.
If it goes ok with battery consumpsion an especially standby time you keep it. If not try another one.
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You mean galaxy s5?, I don't have s5. I had it in past. I would install something similar to the rom i installed to nexus 5x i have.
The lighter nougat rom with pico gapps.
If it goes ok with battery consumpsion an especially standby time you keep it. If not try another one.
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Thanks for the advice :bueno:
i did it using mi 6a. it auto boot and auto off upon detection upon power on
search on xda on how to auto power on device. many device can do this
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cboghiu said:
can you please hep me with the raspberry pi to make aa diplay for my skoda bolero mib 2.0 android auto?
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Take a look at this guys solution.
https://youtu.be/Puk_pzMGd7c
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Thank you for all the suggestions so far.
sosimple said:
I am doing this for a year now. I use an old nexus 5x.
I actually have some more complicated setup. When switch is off i change from another usb of the car (not the one i use for android auto). I have in this usb a changer with more amper to charge faster when i don't use android auto..
I don't propose it as this is much difficult for the average person. Just write it as an idea if car doesn't change fast (this happens in my car).
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I remember that I read somewhere that Android Auto only needs the data wires from the USB cable so it would be possible to connect only the two data wires to the cars USB port and the other two wires to a fast charger, I think there even are prebuild Y-like cables that do exactly this.
But I'm not sure if this still works as expected since nowadays we have USB-C connectors and a lot of different fast charging standards. Some require the data cables to be short cutted (so you cannot use data at the same time) while others send different voltage impulses as handshakes to determine the charger type.
But maybe it is worth looking into this topic for you (and maybe for me aswell if I will encounter the same issue).
Doesn't look like this would be working, found a thread here about it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an.../usb-y-cable-to-quick-charge-android-t3448805
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Thank you for all the suggestions so far.
I remember that I read somewhere that Android Auto only needs the data wires from the USB cable so it would be possible to connect only the two data wires to the cars USB port and the other two wires to a fast charger, I think there even are prebuild Y-like cables that do exactly this.
But I'm not sure if this still works as expected since nowadays we have USB-C connectors and a lot of different fast charging standards. Some require the data cables to be short cutted (so you cannot use data at the same time) while others send different voltage impulses as handshakes to determine the charger type.
But maybe it is worth looking into this topic for you (and maybe for me aswell if I will encounter the same issue).
Doesn't look like this would be working, found a thread here about it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an.../usb-y-cable-to-quick-charge-android-t3448805
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You read my mind..
That i was thinking to do in future. I just dont change anything yet as everything working perfect.
But i think more would become simplier if i connect only the 2 data cables in car usb of android auto (or the 3rd cable , earth, also), and charging from the other usb with the fast charger.
As i remember it was working when i experimended.
Hello. I have a problem. I have an S7, Oneplus 3t with carteam enabled (the car is skoda Octavia 3 with bolero mib 2). The problem is that the image on youtube is lagging and on storage all that are over 360p are lagging. What I am doing wrong? Please help me
Hi guys, Is possible connect 2 phones to car?
I explain my case, I have a Sync3 (Ford), with 2 USB, my plan is use an old Xperia ARC to install AA mirror, and use my first phone for use with android auto..
Is possible this?
Xperia is easy rooteable, my first phone is a Huawei P20 Pro without root.
Thanks in advance!!!!
pajarito3003 said:
Hi guys, Is possible connect 2 phones to car?
I explain my case, I have a Sync3 (Ford), with 2 USB, my plan is use an old Xperia ARC to install AA mirror, and use my first phone for use with android auto..
Is possible this?
Xperia is easy rooteable, my first phone is a Huawei P20 Pro without root.
Thanks in advance!!!!
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Sorry, haven't seen this post. I think it is not possible with both USBs but you can put one phone to the usb and use it as a forwarder for the other phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/wireless-android-auto-head-unit-hack/
WieselDroid said:
Hi there,
since I don't want to root my main phone (don't want to hassle around with some apps that try to block on rooted phones, and also don't want to enable that stupid google voice assistant to use google maps and so on) I want to buy a phone just for Android Auto. This phone will be rooted and stay in the car all time, it could also get a custom ROM. Since I don't have any experience with AA mirror yet and also not that much experience with rooting, it would be great if you have some suggestions what I could get for this use case.
From what I found here so far, the requirements seem to be:
- easy to root
- possible to install custom roms
- will have the display turned on (for AA mirror) for several hours whenever traveling a longer distance
-- maybe heat could be an issue?
- should not have the cheapest battery since it will be charged for long times when traveling as well as not charged at all for several days
-- unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be smartphones anymore that can be used with batteries pulled out
-- is there anything to be considered because of the always-usb-connected use case
- preferably a cheap model from a premium manufacturer
Any suggestion for my decicion or experience with a dedicated phone would be helpful.
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I'm confused. Why does a phone using android auto have to be rooted?
well,
i been doing for the past 4 years already. you can use non root device but you miss out on video play on the car screen.
i am using redmi 4x and redmi 3, both because the availability of custom rom. but i didn use custom rom because it seems the custom roam break data and sms.
not all old phone can be use because on certain devices, android auto takes ages to connect to satellite. for example i hav tried S4, huawei mate 7, Vivo V9, all these device have problem with gps connection, sometimes didn't connect to satellite at all. it seems the low end android device release before 2016 have this issues. i think it also because of my geographic location whic require a-gps, glonass and bds, the only it work.
heating issues, yes, it exist but i use kernal app to limit the max core speed. that it works.
the other reason i chose redmi because the ability to modify the init.rc file to make the device to auto boot when i start the car.
and to turn off the device automatically when you exit the car, i use microdroid and power unplug. apk, which only available on aptoid.
i also create a macro, to send my car location to me incase of theft.[emoji1696]
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I'm looking into doing this. I have an old Sony Z5 Compact but if I recall, it was too slow for AA. Therefore, I'd appreciate any recommendations for a cheap used phone I could buy.
I'm thinking it has to have:
1. Good GPS
2. Ability to Charge faster than it can drain
3. nanoSIM
4. Ability to root for things like init.rc for autoboot.
5. Fast boot time would be nice but perhaps I can use tasker/automate to have it goto deep sleep when its not charging
Ideally, a cheap used unlocked phone I can buy on ebay. Just searching specs, I'm thinking perhaps a Moto G Stylus, Xiomi Poco M3. I also have an old Pixel XL but I'm saving that for unlimited google photos
Before my car had android auto, I used an old tablet. It worked OK but the biggest issue was that it could not charge faster than it would drain. The battery would eventually wear down. Also, after a while, AA would just crash. Ofcourse, here, I'm just mirroring so it is a little different.
eng3 said:
I'm looking into doing this. I have an old Sony Z5 Compact but if I recall, it was too slow for AA. Therefore, I'd appreciate any recommendations for a cheap used phone I could buy.
I'm thinking it has to have:
1. Good GPS
2. Ability to Charge faster than it can drain
3. nanoSIM
4. Ability to root for things like init.rc for autoboot.
5. Fast boot time would be nice but perhaps I can use tasker/automate to have it goto deep sleep when its not charging
Ideally, a cheap used unlocked phone I can buy on ebay. Just searching specs, I'm thinking perhaps a Moto G Stylus, Xiomi Poco M3. I also have an old Pixel XL but I'm saving that for unlimited google photos
Before my car had android auto, I used an old tablet. It worked OK but the biggest issue was that it could not charge faster than it would drain. The battery would eventually wear down. Also, after a while, AA would just crash. Ofcourse, here, I'm just mirroring so it is a little different.
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I wrote above as "sosimple" but it now shows me "deleted member" due to a problem in xda forum through its moving period, that accidentally deleted my account.
Anyways, as i wrote i have an old nexus 5x. Its not the best for the work, but it does it.
If i was going to get one phone for this now, i would search something better. Probably is a good solution to buy a used phone with broken (but working) screen to get it very cheap.
4-5. I think is difficult to find one who does this. I couldn't do it in Nexus 5x (although i read it can be done) so i used a different approach :
2 Tasker scripts to watch if car mode is enabled or not.
-When android auto running, car mode is enabled automatically, tasker script1 run so do what you need then eg turn on Bluetooth, gps, normal battery mode etc..
-When android auto is off, car mode disabled automatically tasker script2 run so disable Bluetooth, GPS, enable battery light consumption mode, flight mode, etc.
This way nexus 5x (and probably most phones) loose 1-2% battery in standby mode per day, so you don't actually needs to power off phone, and it boots to android auto much faster (5 seconds in Nexus). Especially if you debloat phone. I have deleted (or freeze with titanium) most of android. Keep only what needed for android auto and mirroring to work. I did this not only for battery but also for speed.
2. As i wrote before, i have created a cable with a switch:
-when turn on switch phone connect to car usb for android auto, so android auto runs.
But i do have the problem of phone drain faster than charging. It depends of the car. If the usb for android auto charges slow, you can't do anything for this. I didn't have much problem because the battery still last for 6 hours continually.
-When turn off the switch, disconnect phone from car usb for android auto (so android auto stops in phone and in car), and connecting the phone to a 2nd usb of the car where i have a fast usb charger.
This way battery is always charged.
I use it more than 2 years this way, everything works fine.
But there is probably a better solution that i may try in future.
For understanding what i will write (i have created the cable 2 years ago so i dont remember exactly how), I'll post some info, and Google it for more:
A usb cable have 5 wires inside. 2 are for data, 2 for power +-, and 1 for grounding.
So you can create a cable which the 2 cables for +- will go to a fast usb charger. This way phone will always charge fast (faster than it drain) when car in on.
The other 2 wires and ground will go to the car usb for android auto.
You will have a Y cable with 3 usb: the 1st goes to phone, the 2nd go to the (fast) charger, the 3rd go to car usb for android auto.
I have try this and worked. You don't have to charge phone from the same usb which use android auto.
English is not my native language, i hope everyone who reads to understand what i write.
If i do this method I'll post the wiring.
This is my old video, i have change many things from then, I'll post another one some time.
Anyone found a consistent way to limit battery charge % on Android 11? The custom settings I used with Battery Charge Limit app on 10 work intermittently on 11. Often times I'd wake up to 100% charge.
Currently I'm using Advanced Charging Controller magisk module with it's accompanying AccA app but often AccA gets killed in the background even after not optimizing it in battery optimization. The only workaround I've found is to create a macro that opens AccA every time I plug in the charger. With that step it's consistent but I'd like to find something not so hacky.
I've been running A11 for about a week and did not encounter any issues with Battery Charge Limit. Maybe make sure that it's not battery optimized? I have it "not optimized" because I'm paranoid about it, rather than having direct problems.
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I've been running A11 for about a week and did not encounter any issues with Battery Charge Limit. Maybe make sure that it's not battery optimized? I have it "not optimized" because I'm paranoid about it, rather than having direct problems.
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I made sure battery charge limit wasn't optimized. You're using the same custom setting from android 10? Maybe I'll try it again
This the settings you have?
Path Data: /sys/class/power_supply/charger/charge_disable
Enable Value: 0
Disabled Value: 1
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I made sure battery charge limit wasn't optimized. You're using the same custom setting from android 10? Maybe I'll try it again
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I didn't change anything at all... and honestly with all of the other A11 problems I've been having... I didn't even think to check that it was working. It just has been. I also double-checked with AccuBattery and the history never shows above my limit.
This is my control file settings as seen on the main screen:
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/sys/class/power_supply/charger/charge_disable, 0, 1
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I didn't change anything at all... and honestly with all of the other A11 problems I've been having... I didn't even think to check that it was working. It just has been. I also double-checked with AccuBattery and the history never shows above my limit.
This is my control file settings as seen on the main screen:
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/sys/class/power_supply/charger/charge_disable, 0, 1
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I think that's the custom setting probably restored from your Google backup. Same one I was using. I'm gonna try it again though, thanks
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Anyone found a consistent way to limit battery charge % on Android 11? The custom settings I used with Battery Charge Limit app on 10 work intermittently on 11. Often times I'd wake up to 100% charge. Currently I'm using Advanced Charging Controller magisk module with it's accompanying AccA app but often AccA gets killed in the background even after not optimizing it in battery optimization. The only workaround I've found is to create a macro that opens AccA every time I plug in the charger. With that step it's consistent but I'd like to find something not so hacky.
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Have you tried Accubattery? Along with charge limiting it has other useful features, including reporting battery capacity vs. new (under health).
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Have you tried Accubattery? Along with charge limiting it has other useful features, including reporting battery capacity vs. new (under health).
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Accubattery is fine and all for reporting and giving an idea of where you want to stop charging... but it has no ability to limit charging. The only thing it can do is nag you to take the phone off the charger. This thread is about root applications actually blocking the phone from charging past a certain level without making the user do anything or even notifying the user about what's being done.
I realize this is a couple of months old. but I just got a new OnePlus 8T, now rooted, and I'm trying to use Battery Charge Limit on it. I can't quite figure out the settings to have it work consistently. Let's say the phone is already at 100% when I plug it in. Battery Charge Limit starts, but then it flip-flops between Charging and Not Charging, starting and restarting. The phone woke me up last night because it was making a ding every time Battery Charge Limit flipped between charging and not charging. One would think that if the phone was at 100% Battery Charge Limit would turn off charging and let it drop down to my 85% limit and then back up to 91%, but never got above 91%. Thoughts? Thanks.
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I realize this is a couple of months old. but I just got a new OnePlus 8T, now rooted, and I'm trying to use Battery Charge Limit on it. I can't quite figure out the settings to have it work consistently. Let's say the phone is already at 100% when I plug it in. Battery Charge Limit starts, but then it flip-flops between Charging and Not Charging, starting and restarting. The phone woke me up last night because it was making a ding every time Battery Charge Limit flipped between charging and not charging. One would think that if the phone was at 100% Battery Charge Limit would turn off charging and let it drop down to my 85% limit and then back up to 91%, but never got above 91%. Thoughts? Thanks.
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It's possible it's not configured correctly for your phone. You can also just disable that notification channel, since mostly it's just annoying. It constantly fliping might mean that there's more than one control file for your phone type and it's using an ineffectual one that the OS is overriding immediately. For example, the default one it detects for Pixel 4's is not the one it should use.
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It's possible it's not configured correctly for your phone. You can also just disable that notification channel, since mostly it's just annoying. It constantly fliping might mean that there's more than one control file for your phone type and it's using an ineffectual one that the OS is overriding immediately. For example, the default one it detects for Pixel 4's is not the one it should use.
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Thanks for the reply. The problem is that I use the notification to trigger Tasker profiles, so I was hoping to figure out a way to get it to stop flipping back and forth while also retaining the notification. I think it's just the standard control file since it's a OnePlus phone, but I'm not sure I can figure out otherwise. When I first start using BCL, I found the control file and was able to manipulate it with a SQL editor and Shell commands in Tasker, but I haven't poked around the OnePlus 8T that much yet.
Just as a PSA, I think Adaptive Charging from the January update can conflict with this. On days where I set a morning alarm, I found that my battery was more full than it should be. I suspect that Adaptive Charging does something that Battery Charge Limit cannot block. I won't know for a few days if turning this off in settings fixes things 100% or the January update just really screws with this.
Battery Charge Limit settings for pixel 3
Hi all, I like the app, Battery Charge Limit (root required), but was wondering how to set the control file. I works fine with Xperia (with/without Lineage), but doesn't work with Pixel 3 stock firmware (Android 10). And finally found how to...
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Well, as a root method it does seem to work. Depending on your taste, it might be cleaner than an app toggling a different variable. Of course you need an app to set the file back to 100 when you want it. Some Tasker widgets work for my purposes... could probably make it a QuickSettings toggle in the shade, actually.
Bottom of that thread, I was wondering specifically if there might be way to force an unrooted device to think it met one of these conditions, so it only charges to 80%.
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Battery Charge Limit settings for pixel 3
Hi all, I like the app, Battery Charge Limit (root required), but was wondering how to set the control file. I works fine with Xperia (with/without Lineage), but doesn't work with Pixel 3 stock firmware (Android 10). And finally found how to...
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i.e.
... your phone automatically limits charging to about 80% under certain conditions:
Continuous charging under high battery drain conditions, like game play.
Continuous charging for four days or more.
I've done very little research on this, but I expect the ways to fool the phone into thinking those things are happening is even more complicated than using that root file control. Meaning also requiring root but manipulating other control files.
I suppose you could have a case and a ribbon USBC connector that fools the charging logic into thinking it is constantly connected to a hardware charger even though it's still at a net negative power. After 4 days of having the case on, it might work. I don't know why anyone would have already built something like that, however.
I would root my phone but, as my daily driver, I need things like banking apps to work. They (at least some) detect rooted phones and refuse to load as a security measure (which is probably a good thing) :-(
Banking apps are usually just a frontend to their website used API. They have no problem with you using a browser on a rooted phone or Linux PC, etc. Any app that stores sensitive data on your phone and relies 100% on the filesystem being locked down was created wrong and lazily. The only thing about banking apps that might be legitimate is when things like unique CC info is stored for NFC and using a TPM can't be assured. Most banking apps, however, do not store anything sensitive on your phone aside from a login token which all websites also do. (it's called a cookie)
My personal preference is that no app is better for me than being able to root my phone. I don't play mobile games that want to keep you from cheating and I don't even care about Google Pay, which I'm not sure has legitimate need to block root either... they just do it to keep banks happy, which as I suggested, I think they're full of BS.
The only thing more BS than this no-root nonsense from app companies is when carriers do it by locking bootloaders. I try to re-use my phones for as long as possible and without the ability to limit battery charge, the batteries swell and die quickly, every time. It's good news that Google added code where phones plugged in constantly will limit charge automatically... but I doubt there is a way to trick it from the outside. (without root)
Hmmm. Maybe lazy programming, but I'm not ready to change my Bank so I can root my phone
Back to the topic... I don't think I'm ready to trust the /sys/devices/platform/soc/soc:google,charger/charge_stop_level method. Several times I found my phone at low battery and not pulling any current from the USB port, but not losing charge either. It had put itself into a stalemate where it was stuck below 10% for hours. Resetting the value from 60 to 100 allowed charging again. The battery charge limit app never really caused this. So I guess I'm going back to the full app method.
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Back to the topic... I don't think I'm ready to trust the /sys/devices/platform/soc/soc:google,charger/charge_stop_level method. Several times I found my phone at low battery and not pulling any current from the USB port, but not losing charge either. It had put itself into a stalemate where it was stuck below 10% for hours. Resetting the value from 60 to 100 allowed charging again. The battery charge limit app never really caused this. So I guess I'm going back to the full app method.
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I would like to definitely solve this problem I have been struggling with for years. What did you do, can you please help me? It seems extremely similar to what you wrote here.
I have been using battery charge limit on my Xiaomi Mi Mix (1st model) since android 7.1 (lineageos) (and I might have messed with a couple files, not sure, can't remember). When updating to android 9 (lineageos) couple years ago I started having the problem you described. Also I notice sometimes I plug the phone at safe levels such as 35% or 60% and it doesn't charge same thing. Also it only charges with certain chargers and not others.
Earlier today it was 11% battery, could not boot android, didn't charge. I got the idea for the first time to try booting in TWRP (on+volume up buttons) and it immediately started charging at full speed. So there's obviously nothing wrong in the hardware, it's software or just config.
I would like to definitely solve this problem, but I don't understand exactly what you did on your side to fix it. Please reply or message me if you have any suggestion Thank you!