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Just a thought about memory utilization....
So Oneplus 3 is the first mainstream (not the first overall) android phone with 6Gb. Apparently all that memory is not currently utilized. Most likely it is not fully utilized even on 4Gb phones. There is really no point in wasted RAM. Having a lot of open apps in memory is truly great and could be the best use for it, but it also can present some issues. Background apps on android are not always suspended in the best way and can waste resources (CPU, battery). Of course if app and system are optimized correctly this shouldn't happen, but unfortunately it is not always the case. While google optimizes the system with dose features etc, I'm wondering about a simpler option until the better one is built into the system.
RAM is 10 times faster than storage, so why not use a portion of it as a RAMDISK, like in old days (MS DOS times). For those who don't know, RAMDISK is a portion of RAM that is used as a temporary storage (like flash memory), that will be 10 times faster than permanent flash storage.
Basically out of 6Gb RAM that phone has (Oneplus 3), 3Gb would be used as regular RAM and 3GB would be used as a RAMDISK. RAMDISK completely looses all the data after reboot, but the good thing is that phones don't really need to be restarted often. So RAMDISK would be almost permanent. Lets say you have 100 apps on your phone. Out of those you use 30 all the time. It is a bit inconvenient when app that you use often (for example Facebook) is kicked out from the memory and has to reload from flash storage (slow). Instead you could have those 30 apps to be loaded/copied/synchronized to the RAMDISK during initial boot. If app is kicked from regular RAM and needs to be restarted/resumed it would load 10 times faster from the RAMDISK. During regular intervals and before reboot data/cache from RAMDISK can be permanently saved (synchronized) back to the flash storage. If you have your favorite app that keeps misbehaving in the background (uses too much CPU, doesn't let phone to go into deep sleep and kills battery) you can just have it removed from background processes (swipe away, greenify, kill it etc), but then it will be almost instantly reloaded from RAMDISK when you need it later. So in the end you would have all your favorite apps loading super fast, even if it is not currently running in the background. You would sacrifice some RAM for faster app loading, possibly also minimizing battery loss due to some bad apps.
My knowledge of Android system is very limited and I might be very mistaken regarding this option, it's implementation and benefits. I would love to hear what people with better knowledge can say on this topic.
Droff said:
Just a thought about memory utilization....
So Oneplus 3 is the first mainstream (not the first overall) android phone with 6Gb. Apparently all that memory is not currently utilized. Most likely it is not fully utilized even on 4Gb phones. There is really no point in wasted RAM. Having a lot of open apps in memory is truly great and could be the best use for it, but it also can present some issues. Background apps on android are not always suspended in the best way and can waste resources (CPU, battery). Of course if app and system are optimized correctly this shouldn't happen, but unfortunately it is not always the case. While google optimizes the system with dose features etc, I'm wondering about a simpler option until the better one is built into the system.
RAM is 10 times faster than storage, so why not use a portion of it as a RAMDISK, like in old days (MS DOS times). For those who don't know, RAMDISK is a portion of RAM that is used as a temporary storage (like flash memory), that will be 10 times faster than permanent flash storage.
Basically out of 6Gb RAM that phone has (Oneplus 3), 3Gb would be used as regular RAM and 3GB would be used as a RAMDISK. RAMDISK completely looses all the data after reboot, but the good thing is that phones don't really need to be restarted often. So RAMDISK would be almost permanent. Lets say you have 100 apps on your phone. Out of those you use 30 all the time. It is a bit inconvenient when app that you use often (for example Facebook) is kicked out from the memory and has to reload from flash storage (slow). Instead you could have those 30 apps to be loaded/copied/synchronized to the RAMDISK during initial boot. If app is kicked from regular RAM and needs to be restarted/resumed it would load 10 times faster from the RAMDISK. During regular intervals and before reboot data/cache from RAMDISK can be permanently saved (synchronized) back to the flash storage. If you have your favorite app that keeps misbehaving in the background (uses too much CPU, doesn't let phone to go into deep sleep and kills battery) you can just have it removed from background processes (swipe away, greenify, kill it etc), but then it will be almost instantly reloaded from RAMDISK when you need it later. So in the end you would have all your favorite apps loading super fast, even if it is not currently running in the background. You would sacrifice some RAM for faster app loading, possibly also minimizing battery loss due to some bad apps.
My knowledge of Android system is very limited and I might be very mistaken regarding this option, it's implementation and benefits. I would love to hear what people with better knowledge can say on this topic.
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Never mind, wrong post.
gee2012 said:
Did you read this http://www.xda-developers.com/how-t...-management-almost-double-the-apps-in-memory/.
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It is not about fixing the number of apps that can be held in memory, it is about different use for the RAM. When you have 40 apps in the background some of them can kill the battery. That is probably why Oneplus limited the number of apps. RAMDISK could potentiality minimize the battery wasted by background apps (if they are not suspended correctly) by removing them from active memory and still allow fast restart when needed.
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Did you read the post? It is not about fixing the number of apps that can be held in memory, it is about different use for the RAM. When you have 40 apps in the background some of them can kill the battery. That is probably why Oneplus limited the number of apps. RAMDISK could potentiality minimize the battery wasted by background apps (if they are not suspended correctly) by removing them from active memory and still allow fast restart when needed.
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I corrected my post didn`t i?
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I corrected my post didn`t i?
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I wrote reply while you did the correction. I think it is good to leave my reply there anyways, in case if someone else misreads the topic. Let me know if you think otherwise.
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I wrote reply while you did the correction. I think it is good to leave my reply there anyways, in case if someone else misreads the topic. Let me know if you think otherwise.
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Its cool
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Apparently all that memory is not currently utilized. Most likely it is not fully utilized even on 4Gb phones.
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Could you explain further why you think it is not being utilised ?
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RAMDISK could potentiality minimize the battery wasted by background apps (if they are not suspended correctly) by removing them from active memory and still allow fast restart when needed.
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Android can not address any RAMDISK, it just makes no sense here.
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Could you explain further why you think it is not being utilised ?
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Look at the amount of free RAM in average use. There will be plenty that is unused. Keeping lots of apps cached is the best use for the free ram, but in some cases those background apps need to be removed from the active memory to prevent app from keeping device awake (and killing battery as a result). For example RAMDISK would allow to greenify all the bad written apps, stopping them from draining the battery, but then reloading them back to the active RAM almost instantly (much faster than from flash storage), when user wants to access the app again.
This situation (RAM "waste") can sure change with advances in android system itself, but as of now I just think RAMDISK is not a bad option for new devices with a lot of RAM onboard. Apparently we will see android phones with 8Gb Ram pretty soon.
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Android can not address any RAMDISK, it just makes no sense here.
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There is no such thing currently, but it doesn't mean that it cannot be created (at least in my understanding) and implemented via kernel or just an application (background service).
Here is info from WiKi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAM_drive
Here are the examples of programs/apps for PC:
http://www.radeonramdisk.com/software_downloads.php
http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk
Here some more info:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/260918/how_to_supercharge_your_pc_with_a_ram_disk.html
Plenty more can be found online.
I remember we used to do that on the HD2 - it was pretty cool!
blackalice said:
I remember we used to do that on the HD2 - it was pretty cool!
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Pity it was just Windows Mobile OS.
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Look at the amount of free RAM in average use. There will be plenty that is unused.
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The impression i got that was not all that ram was not available and was reserved for the system. To the point one questioned that 6GB was available, felt like less.
How much RAM does the OP3 mention as free after a restart ?
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The impression i got that was not all that ram was not available and was reserved for the system. To the point one questioned that 6GB was available, felt like less.
How much RAM does the OP3 mention as free after a restart ?
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It shows about 4.5Gb free. I'm yet to fully test OP3 and see my average memory usage, but I doubt that I will have less than 2Gb free
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It shows about 4.5Gb free. I'm yet to fully test OP3 and see my average memory usage, but I doubt that I will have less than 2Gb free
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4.5GB free implies its working as stated.
You're saying in use that memory gets reserved and drops, that is more than it should.
Do u have any ideas how can that be done?
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That would be really cool
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Do u have any ideas how can that be done?
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That would be really cool
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As far as I know, there is no RAMDISK app for android at this time. I would love try it out myself. Unfortunately I don't have much coding experience to create this app (or kernel).
On a side note, after more time with a 6Gb phone I can see that this RAM can get utilized quite a bit. After editing the build.prop to magical number 42 and running bunch of apps (regular operation, nothing really extreme), the free cache reported by OS (developer options) is 1.2GB - 1.3GB. at the same time in RUNNING SERVICES it shows 2.8GB free. SYSTEM got bloated to 2.0GB
From what I can see, the apps that I use didn't misbehave so far and even with such heavy load on RAM, my battery didn't take a hit. As a matter of fact I'm very surprised by battery performance so far, but I'm only 1/4 way through.
That being said, I would still love to create 2Gb RAMDISK from that 6GB and play with it more.
Man your battery life is really good!
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Actually, my RAM is well used and i am grateful for having 6 GB in the phone, that is, because i am using two profiles and on 4GB phones they were always operating at the limit. with the oneplus 3 finally this is over.
Praise the lord.
Hello fellow MI5 users,
I received my phone one week ago and I start having some issues with the RAM. In fact, at the start of the phone, it's already at 70% filled up which is too much for me. Indeed I use a lot of RAM and I'm that type of guy who let the apps running in background everytime because I keep opening them everytime. I was wondering if it was possible to have a link to a better ROM because I guess it's the problem and also a link for a tutorial on how to flash it I'm a newbie in this type of manipulation but I'm very interested so I hope you will help me guys. By the way, my MIUI version is the MIUI 8 Global 6.8.18. I honestly don't know what can i give as information but I'll answer ASAP at any questions
Have a good day
This is working as design - Android keeps apps in RAM to reduce I/O on resuming from background - faster & more energy efficient.
You can change the number of background processes via the development settings or you can kill apps on closing.
adwinp said:
This is working as design - Android keeps apps in RAM to reduce I/O on resuming from background - faster & more energy efficient.
You can change the number of background processes via the development settings or you can kill apps on closing.
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I've seen that indeed but it was set at standard so I'll probably put it at 3 I guess. How should I set the memory optimization? I've read it should be set off, altough I tried middle and I feel comfortable like that?
Is it normal to start at 70% without anything started ?
Unitae said:
I've seen that indeed but it was set at standard so I'll probably put it at 3 I guess. How should I set the memory optimization? I've read it should be set off, altough I tried middle and I feel comfortable like that?
Is it normal to start at 70% without anything started ?
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For the 3GB version? Pretty much. MIUI is horrible.
After booting I typically had 1.3GB / 3.0GB free but after a while this averaged to around 650MB free.
free ram is useless ram , which cant accelerate anything
ps2lover said:
free ram is useless ram , which cant accelerate anything
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I know that but I need more because I use multi-task a lot. Is there a way to change the ROM so I have more space to work with? Even if the ROM itself is beautiful.
Indeed it's the 3gb version 32gb. It have lags sometimes and I think it's due to the full RAM. Can I have a link to a custom ROM which works fine on this device?
I'm a little confused, you want as much RAM available but you want as many processes in the background as well? That sounds contradicting to me. Memory optimization maps to ZRAM, if you set it off there will be no memory compression and thus even less processes will be kept in the background. If you set it high, you can have as many processes as possible, but there could be lag due to (de)compression time overhead.
Try different Rom
Try to use a different Rom. On the Stock Rom is a lot of bloatware which is using your RAM too.
First you need to get an Bootloader unlock permission and have to unlock the BL.
It could take up to 10 Days to get the permission from Xiaomi
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/unlocking-xiaomi-mi-5-bootloader-t3336243
After that you have to flash a recovery like trwp via ADB. Google it for videos or threads how to do it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/recovery-twrp-xiaomi-mi-5-t3412123
After that you can flash a developer Rom.
I use the Resurrection Remix and it works fine. The CM 13 stucks in Bootloop. Maybe because I made a full wipe and had to sideload my rom.
Because you don't have a SD card option you have to have the room installed on your hard drive. But just follow the description below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/development/unofficial-resurrection-remix-m-5-6-9-t3395945
It took me just 1 day to get the unlock permit but don't try do do it without it. You brick your phone.
The RR Rom works really fine. Fingerprint and everything. It has no bloatware and you have to get the gaps like in the description. Arm64 nano seems enough.
Good luck and fun with a great phone.
Normally the android system kills the unused apps even in background. But i also experienced lack in multitasking.
leledumbo said:
I'm a little confused, you want as much RAM available but you want as many processes in the background as well? That sounds contradicting to me. Memory optimization maps to ZRAM, if you set it off there will be no memory compression and thus even less processes will be kept in the background. If you set it high, you can have as many processes as possible, but there could be lag due to (de)compression time overhead.
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible apps in the background.
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible app in the background.
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Yup exactly
Try trwp 3.0.2.0 with 3.0.2.1 people experience bootloop
Omied said:
Try trwp 3.0.2.0 with 3.0.2.1 people experience bootloop
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In fact, I'm just doing some research before asking because I'm very new. I have found some videos but they are pretty old and not on this phone but I guess it works more or less the same way
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I think you misunderstood the OP question, he wanted more free RAM at start in order to have as many as possible apps in the background.
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OK, in that case, just open Security->Permissions->Autostart and disable those which aren't immediately needed upon start. I have 18 autostart items (mostly system monitoring & social media apps) and I usually start with 1.5 GB free RAM.
For the first time ever since getting my Mate 10 on launch day, I just received a pop up notification to defragment my phone which will improve performance. I did so. Wow they were not wrong there! Everything is so quick now. Apps launch super quickly! Anyone else had the opportunity to defragment their phone?
hI,
what is your device rom version and locale?
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hI,
what is your device rom version and locale?
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Mate 10 non Pro. ALP L29C636. UK.
Stange, I got the same phone and rom version .
All I've got was an update to .132 yesterday....
haven't noticed anything about defragmenting phone......
Where can I find it?
cheers.
Great Post.
I don't think you can find it. It just appears out of nowhere. I guess it depends on how much you have used your storage and delete and save files.
One thing I have done recently is empty the recycle bin folder in the gallery app which had over 30 days of deleted photos and videos. Perhaps deleting the accumulated storage taken up left a big gap in the storage file system. This is purely a hunch. Have no idea if this was the reason I got the defragmentation notification.
I wish I took a screenshot of it now.
Just found this blurb.... Defragmentation is mentioned....
"The HUAWEI Mate 10 and HUAWEI Mate 10 Pro take the “Born Fast, Stay Fast” promise to a new dimension. Leveraging AI-powered Battery Management, the devices improve memory allocation utilization, using different mechanisms such as: CPU Resource Allocation and Management, Run-time Memory Management, IO Resource Management, Storage Management and Defragmentation and Battery Management."
Yup I get a de-fragmentation pop up once in a while.
Still waiting for a firmware popup.
I saw this once and laughed, remembered me of Windows 98.
Android is supposed to support trim, so devrafmantation shouldn't be a thing... Unless Huawei is calling it Defrag but instead they're doing something else behind the scenes.
Anyways, the born fast stay fast BS is based on the system continuously trying to shutdown processes ASAP and keep them from working properly, and it's continuously pushing the user to delete all kind of "unused" files.
So I've a phone with 128 GB storage and 6GB of ram, but I neither can use the storage nor keep apps open in RAM cuz the system doesn't like it.
Wished we could disable the phone manager and its BS entirely.
Luinwethion said:
I saw this once and laughed, remembered me of Windows 98.
Android is supposed to support trim, so devrafmantation shouldn't be a thing... Unless Huawei is calling it Defrag but instead they're doing something else behind the scenes.
Anyways, the born fast stay fast BS is based on the system continuously trying to shutdown processes ASAP and keep them from working properly, and it's continuously pushing the user to delete all kind of "unused" files.
So I've a phone with 128 GB storage and 6GB of ram, but I neither can use the storage nor keep apps open in RAM cuz the system doesn't like it.
Wished we could disable the phone manager and its BS entirely.
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I agree, that could be the reason apps like Adguard keep getting killed regardless of if its been whitelisted in Phone Manager.
As we approach having a stable TWRP/Root solution for ALP's, (cudos to Pretoriano80) I hope devs would find a solution to the over zealous AI/NPU.
Luinwethion said:
I saw this once and laughed, remembered me of Windows 98.
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Android is supposed to support trim, so devrafmantation shouldn't be a thing... .
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You are full of BS, one of the weaknesses of F2FS is fragmentation decreases performance more than EXT4, so it actually needs defragmentation.
doesnt F2FS do auto trim?
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I agree, that could be the reason apps like Adguard keep getting killed regardless of if its been whitelisted in Phone Manager.
As we approach having a stable TWRP/Root solution for ALP's, (cudos to Pretoriano80) I hope devs would find a solution to the over zealous AI/NPU.
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I am using Adguard without any problems!
CDI12 said:
I am using Adguard without any problems!
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ditto
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I just got the notification to defragment on my Huawei P10 VTR-L09 and I clicked it, But I was doing something so I decided to go back to it and do it later. I figured I would be able to do a search In the settings to find the defragment option. Well guess what... It is not there. I guess the only way to defragment is when the system wants you to and not whenever you feel like it. I should have just done the defrag when I first got the message. Now I have to wait until it pops up again.... They should give you the option in the phone manager. Anyone know how frequently the defrag option pops up??
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Yes a warning to others. If you get the defrag option, you MUST do it there and then. Do not navigate away from that notification as you can't get it back.
tboy2000 said:
Yes a warning to others. If you get the defrag option, you MUST do it there and then. Do not navigate away from that notification as you can't get it back.
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I've put a shortcut to it on my phone. I'm using nova launcher. Go to widgets/activities/settings. I've got 254 entries under settings, takes a while scrolling but you can find it and add it to your main screen
Edit: widgets/activities/phone manager/defragmentation
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I've put a shortcut to it on my phone. I'm using nova launcher. Go to widgets/activities/settings. I've got 254 entries under settings, takes a while scrolling but you can find it and add it to your main screen
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What name of activity
angeloamorato said:
What name of activity
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Widgets/activities/phone manager/defragmentation.
is there any downside to de fraging the system (like to the updates or smth)
I was wondering how much ram is free on other users because usually mine says 2.6 gb or 3.1
Don't be so surprised dude... Dinnerly Android manages as much as possible RAM it needs to get things preloaded... I have the 8GB & 256GB version and it had available 5.3GB of RAM maximum!
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I was wondering how much ram is free on other users because usually mine says 2.6 gb or 3.1
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On my 6GB version before debloating 3/3.2GB and after 3.6/3.8. Plus it highly depends on how many apps you have and how many of them are running in the background. Also, disabling MiUi tweaks can make a difference since it is quite aggressive in clearing recents etc.
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Before debloating 3/3.2GB and after 3.6/3.8. Plus it highly depends on how many apps you have and how many of them are running in the background. Also, disabling MiUi tweaks can make a difference since it is quite aggressive in clearing recents etc.
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Exactly! Also that is in the game!
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On my 6GB version before debloating 3/3.2GB and after 3.6/3.8. Plus it highly depends on how many apps you have and how many of them are running in the background. Also, disabling MiUi tweaks can make a difference since it is quite aggressive in clearing recents etc.
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How can i debloat without root and which tweaks did you disabled?
Interesting question. Haven't got the pro version, but should give simmilar results.
Got the 6/128gb K20 MIUI 11.0.3.0 china version. Not debloated running Nova Launcher.
Most of the time i have 2,4GB to 3,1GB RAM free. Depends on what app is currently and recently opend.
So it is commonly using something between 2,9GB-3,6GB of RAM.
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Don't be so surprised dude... Dinnerly Android manages as much as possible RAM it needs to get things preloaded... I have the 8GB & 256GB version and it had available 5.3GB of RAM maximum!
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Seems like the system is not using as much as possible RAM. If 5,3GB are still available it is still only using 2,7GB of the 8GB RAM. The usage is like the 6GB version.
Seems like miui/android can still be further optimized for phones which has large ram. Is there anyone with the 12GB Pro Premium Edition and can tell something about the free ram?
I have around 4.7 Gb of free ram
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How can i debloat without root and which tweaks did you disabled?
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To disable MiUi tweaks go to Settings > About device and tap ‘MIUI version’ seven times to enable developer options
After then go to Settings > Additional settings > Developer Mode and scroll all the way down and there you will see an option called 'Turn on MiUi Tweaks' just uncheck it and you are done. This will take care of MiUi aggressively closing background apps.
While you are in the Developer Mode also enable 'USB Debugging' which you will need to debloat apps. Follow this post as it explains everything in detail.
Word of caution, if you plan on unlocking bootloader/rooting your phone later then Don't delete any MiUi related APK especially the MiUi account and cloud backup. I did this just to be on the safe side and once I got my bootloader unlocked I went ahead and debloated stuff which I didn't need.
Unused RAM is wasted RAM. Don't try to outsmart the memory management of the OS.
Why y'all going crazy for free RAM?
It doesn't work the way you think, it's not how the operating system works.
The only thing we need to know is that the optimisation of RAM by MIUI.
Hello community,
I'm on rooted N9 running stock Android 10. When I uninstall any stock system applications that I don't need-bloatware, it doesn't meter what they are, the phone boots in Download mode and I need to reinstall the whale system again.
Is that usual for Android 10?
The same situation have happened when I tried some custom Rooms, for example Lineage17.1. The phone booted in Download.
Before I upgraded to A10 I usually uninstalled all useless apks without any problems.
Thanks in advance.
Then maybe they aren't useless? What are the apps that you're uninstalling? Give package names if you can.
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Then maybe they aren't useless? What are the apps that you're uninstalling? Give package names if you can.
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Thank you for quick reply.
Some of the appks I tried to uninstall are: Linkedin, Dex for PC, Samsung Dex, Dex home, Dictionary, Facebook appks, Game Booster, Game Launcher, Game optimizing service...
omnimj said:
Thank you for quick reply.
Some of the appks I tried to uninstall are: Linkedin, Dex for PC, Samsung Dex, Dex home, Dictionary, Facebook appks, Game Booster, Game Launcher, Game optimizing service...
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Just disable them using Package Disabler Pro! it's a pain trying to figure out what apps are needed for system to boot! once disabled, you never need to worry about them! Plus it ain't like your running out of storage are you ? That you have to delete them!
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Just disable them using Package Disabler Pro! it's a pain trying to figure out what apps are needed for system to boot! once disabled, you never need to worry about them! Plus it ain't like your running out of storage are you ? That you have to delete them!
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You are right. The first intention is to spare the storage.
Why would you delete the DeX stuff and the Game stuff? I get it for Linkedin and Facebook and the MS Office apps (if you had them as well). DeX doesn't run in the background, same for Game Launcher and you certainly have enough storage
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Why would you delete the DeX stuff and the Game stuff? I get it for Linkedin and Facebook and the MS Office apps (if you had them as well). DeX doesn't run in the background, same for Game Launcher and you certainly have enough storage
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Spot on! Storage is not a issue in this day and age, if it is. Then there is something seriously wrong with you lol! Dex is awesome people need to start using Dex!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Spot on! Storage is not a issue in this day and age, if it is. Then there is something seriously wrong with you lol! Dex is awesome people need to start using Dex!
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Thank you for the benevolent comments, but I still haven't got an explanation from anyone do the Samsung developers make all Android10 stock applications important and necessary for system to boot and they must not be removed.
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Thank you for the benevolent comments, but I still haven't got an explanation from anyone do the Samsung developers make all Android10 stock applications important and necessary for system to boot and they must not be removed.
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Seems like you answered your own question! And yes Samsung bake in there apps into Android O.S unless you know how to code in Java ? And get the O.S to boot up! Mate your only option is to freeze them!
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Seems like you answered your own question! And yes Samsung bake in there apps into Android O.S unless you know how to code in Java ? And get the O.S to boot up! Mate your only option is to freeze them!
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I assumed.
Thanks.
omnimj said:
I assumed.
Thanks.
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How many GIG is your Note 9 ? 128 GIG ? 512 GIG ?
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How many GIG is your Note 9 ? 128 GIG ? 512 GIG ?
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128GB.
When I install the full stock Android 10 and my favorite user applications, it only remains 170MB (0,17GB) in System ROM partition.
I'm aware of the fact that the Note 9 is natively designed for Android 8, on the other side Android 10 needs more memory. That's why I want to get rid of unnecessary stock system applications.
omnimj said:
128GB.
When I install the full stock Android 10 and my favorite user applications, it only remains 170MB (0,17GB) in System ROM partition.
I'm aware of the fact that the Note 9 is natively designed for Android 8, on the other side Android 10 needs more memory. That's why I want to get rid of unnecessary stock system applications.
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What only 0.17GB left on system partition, that does not sound correct ? i got 91.9GB left with A10 installed and i have got around 80 + apps or so installed on my 128GB Galaxy Note 9! Are you sure you got a genuine Samsung Galaxy Note 9 ? i have a feeling your so called Note 9 is a copy or in other words a fake! ??
Although I'm with the 512GB version I know that filling up 128GB just by the OS and apps is very weird indeed. I've used 228GB of my storage and I have Android 10 along with 95 apps from the playstore and a bunch of apps outside the play store (galaxy store or apkmirror).
Worth mentioning is that around 20 of my apps are games, half huge ones! Asphalt 9, NFS No Limits, Real Racing 3, both Neighbors From Hell games, Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light, Max Payne, GTA III, Vice City, San Andreas and Liberty City Stories. I also have a few PSP games for my PPSSPP emulator. I have most of the game installation files as well as around 30GB photos/videos from camera and 25GB music along with other random things.
You shouldn't be able to fill 128GB just by apps! @omnimj
omnimj said:
128GB.
When I install the full stock Android 10 and my favorite user applications, it only remains 170MB (0,17GB) in System ROM partition.
I'm aware of the fact that the Note 9 is natively designed for Android 8, on the other side Android 10 needs more memory. That's why I want to get rid of unnecessary stock system applications.
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Hey did get your Note 9 sorted ? or is it a copy ?
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Hey did get your Note 9 sorted ? or is it a copy ?
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Thanks for the interest. I uninstalled some of user apks and got some more space in System ROM partition: 4.79GB (239MB free)
My Note 9 is original factory's.
omnimj said:
Thanks for the interest. I uninstalled some of user apks and got some more space in System ROM partition: 4.79GB (239MB free)
My Note 9 is original factory's.
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Brilliant it's a genuine phone! How much apps/songs/movies have you transferrred on your Note 9 ? You need to get a micro sd card i mange to get a 200gig 20 odd pounds! i always keep phone storage clear other than apps.
if your planning to keep your phone longer than 2 years, as i read on xda some time ago system memory slows down if you keep reading wiritng etc.
As i'm keeping all my files on sd card, it's less wear tear on the system hence will get optimal performance in the long run!
N1NJATH3ORY said:
Brilliant it's a genuine phone! How much apps/songs/movies have you transferrred on your Note 9 ? You need to get a micro sd card i mange to get a 200gig 20 odd pounds! i always keep phone storage clear other than apps.
if your planning to keep your phone longer than 2 years, as i read on xda some time ago system memory slows down if you keep reading wiritng etc.
As i'm keeping all my files on sd card, it's less wear tear on the system hence will get optimal performance in the long run!
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Brilliant indeed. The best phone I've ever had.
Thanks for the advices.