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I just got my N6 a few days ago, and JUST got everything all set up how I like. I went to go root it, and the method mentioned in the "All-In-One" stickied thread requires you to unlock the bootloader, which says it will factory reset the device.
I don't want to factory reset at this point, I just want to root it. I've never had to wipe a phone or unlock a bootloader to root a phone before, so this is new to me.
Thanks
arcooke said:
I just got my N6 a few days ago, and JUST got everything all set up how I like. I went to go root it, and the method mentioned in the "All-In-One" stickied thread requires you to unlock the bootloader, which says it will factory reset the device.
I don't want to factory reset at this point, I just want to root it. I've never had to wipe a phone or unlock a bootloader to root a phone before, so this is new to me.
Thanks
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There is a way, I believe, by running TWRP on your PC and flashing SuperSU from your PC. However, it's not a recommended method as you will have no way of backing up. Also, if you get caught in a bootloop, you won't be able to recover without a custom recovery.
arcooke said:
I just got my N6 a few days ago, and JUST got everything all set up how I like. I went to go root it, and the method mentioned in the "All-In-One" stickied thread requires you to unlock the bootloader, which says it will factory reset the device.
I don't want to factory reset at this point, I just want to root it. I've never had to wipe a phone or unlock a bootloader to root a phone before, so this is new to me.
Thanks
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and you don't have to "hack" a nexus as well, as google provided an easy way to unlock your bootloader and to obtain root. if you just got your nexus a few days ago, just unlock the bootloader and root it. loosing a few days of information is more than worth it for root. don't waste your time worrying over a few days of data.
Can be done but not recommended.
adb backup/restore can save a little bit of information for you, but I wouldn't go in expecting it to save everything
Sent from my Nexus 6
What did you set up? You can back up your messages, and your apps will re-download. Your photos are already syncing to Google. If it's not rooted, I can't imagine you've done that much customization.
Lesson learned: unlock should ALWAYS be the very first step you do on a new phone.
arcooke said:
I just got my N6 a few days ago, and JUST got everything all set up how I like. I went to go root it, and the method mentioned in the "All-In-One" stickied thread requires you to unlock the bootloader, which says it will factory reset the device.
I don't want to factory reset at this point, I just want to root it. I've never had to wipe a phone or unlock a bootloader to root a phone before, so this is new to me.
Thanks
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if you download kingroot from the internet and install it onto your phone through unknown sources. it says your not supported but just click start root anyway. and hey presto your rooted. ive done this on my nexus 6 and its worked and hasnt knackered the phone and i know a couple of other people whove done the same
the only thing i havnet worked out how to do is take the king userr off. once your finished rooting, in order to sustain root that app becomes a permanent addittion to the phone. ive deleted it before and lost root. but just reinstall and follow the steps again and you gain root again
to check root download root checker form the app market
danr93 said:
if you download kingroot from the internet and install it onto your phone through unknown sources. it says your not supported but just click start root anyway. and hey presto your rooted. ive done this on my nexus 6 and its worked and hasnt knackered the phone and i know a couple of other people whove done the same
the only thing i havnet worked out how to do is take the king userr off. once your finished rooting, in order to sustain root that app becomes a permanent addittion to the phone. ive deleted it before and lost root. but just reinstall and follow the steps again and you gain root again
to check root download root checker form the app market
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Yes we're aware but we do recommend against these one-click methods usually. Rooted users cannot accept OTA updates, so the only way to update is with an unlocked bootloader unless you're going to have a custom recovery (also highly recommended) so you can flash flashable zips.
Also you MUST go into settings and enable the "Allow OEM unlock" in developer options, because If you break your OS with root, which is easily done - you're going to become stuck as you can't unlock the bootloader. Not too bad if you have TWRP recovery installed, but then that becomes a single point of failure.
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Yes we're aware but we do recommend against these one-click methods usually. Rooted users cannot accept OTA updates, so the only way to update is with an unlocked bootloader unless you're going to have a custom recovery (also highly recommended) so you can flash flashable zips.
Also you MUST go into settings and enable the "Allow OEM unlock" in developer options, because If you break your OS with root, which is easily done - you're going to become stuck as you can't unlock the bootloader. Not too bad if you have TWRP recovery installed, but then that becomes a single point of failure.
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ok thats fair enough i didnt realise it was so risky. i downloaded twrp straight after this method worked for me and got everything backed up
danr93 said:
ok thats fair enough i didnt realise it was so risky. i downloaded twrp straight after this method worked for me and got everything backed up
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Good stuff. Once rooted, Flashify is a great tool to flash TWRP. With the nexus 5, you could unlock the bootloader with an app that didnt wipe everything, which was great, but Nexus 6 doesn't allow that, but always do go to settings > developer options > OEM Unlock (Set to enable). Without this set, you cannot unlock the bootloader from fastboot. Also, side note, developer options doesn't show up until you go into Settings > About phone then tap "Build number" several times to make the option visible. Think its 7 times.
It's interesting saying that you need kingroot to remain on the device. Thats a bit of a pain. Does it install SuperSU or not? If not, might be interesting to see what happens if you install the SuperSU app from Play - whether it allows it to be removed then.
My preferred method however is definitely unlock the BL, fastboot flash TWRP, From TWRP flash SuperSU zip (or rooted ROM).
For the record, I did end up factory resetting to do it the right way.
Is this easy to unroot if a new OTA update comes out?
arcooke said:
For the record, I did end up factory resetting to do it the right way.
Is this easy to unroot if a new OTA update comes out?
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Yes and no. To "unroot" you have to fastboot flash system.img and boot.img, which if the factory image is available for the version your OTA will raise you to, you're done. If there is no factory image for that new version, you must flash the system and boot(and recovery) of the expected version, then OTA. Note, recovery version isn't checked. Only system and boot. Just that recovery must be stock for OTA to flash.
To be honest, easiest way is to wait for a rooted flashable zip to be made available and flash via recovery
danarama said:
Yes and no. To "unroot" you have to fastboot flash system.img and boot.img, which if the factory image is available for the version your OTA will raise you to, you're done. If there is no factory image for that new version, you must flash the system and boot(and recovery) of the expected version, then OTA. Note, recovery version isn't checked. Only system and boot. Just that recovery must be stock for OTA to flash.
To be honest, easiest way is to wait for a rooted flashable zip to be made available and flash via recovery
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Geez. I thought the "pure google experience" would be much less of a headache. lol. Rooting/updating/etc was so much easier on my old Verizon phones.. one-click-root, one-click-unroot, easy updates, never had to factory reset or flash roms to do anything.
I only rooted for AdAway, starting to wonder if that was a good idea or not.
arcooke said:
Geez. I thought the "pure google experience" would be much less of a headache. lol. Rooting/updating/etc was so much easier on my old Verizon phones.. one-click-root, one-click-unroot, easy updates, never had to factory reset or flash roms to do anything.
I only rooted for AdAway, starting to wonder if that was a good idea or not.
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That's lollipop for you. It changed everything.
It's still really simple.
Good to know. Thanks for the info!
Hello XDA forums,
I really don't like the issue of trying to set the drivers of fastboot/google and so on....also all of these adb commands.
Is there a way to unlock bootloader & root by:
1) one of these "1 click" tools that do everything for the use? (such as "wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit")
2) Just do everything by the phone? (if there is a possible to install some how a recovery such as twrp and than root by some app?)
Could anybody guide me through the steps, if needed?
Many thanks!
shabydog said:
Hello XDA forums,
I really don't like the issue of trying to set the drivers of fastboot/google and so on....also all of these adb commands.
Is there a way to unlock bootloader & root by:
1) one of these "1 click" tools that do everything for the use? (such as "wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit")
2) Just do everything by the phone? (if there is a possible to install some how a recovery such as twrp and than root by some app?)
Could anybody guide me through the steps, if needed?
Many thanks!
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AFAIK you will need a pc to 1)unlock your bootloader and 2)flash TWRP. After that the rest can be done locally. I also never used any toolkit. Making it easy is making it more dangerous IMHO.
Droidphilev said:
I also never used any toolkit. Making it easy is making it more dangerous IMHO.
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Second that.
shabydog said:
2) Just do everything by the phone? (if there is a possible to install some how a recovery such as twrp and than root by some app?)
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So at least once you need to connect your phone to a desktop computer. It can be practically running anything, within reason of course: Wiindows. Mac OSX, Linux (almost any distro).
You need to unlock your bootloader with one command, but a warning here: Unlocking the bootloader will erase everything from your phone..
Then you need to install a custom recovery, preferably TWRP. After that everything can be done from the phone itself. Well at least until you soft brick it somehow, then you'll might have to use the PC again.
Also two things:
1. No OTAs for rooted phones
2. Don't lock your bootloader if you want to mess with it, because with a locked bootloader, and Enable OEM Unlocking set to off, and without TWRP, if you soft brick it accidentally, you are boned.
Hello XDA forums,
I really don't like the issue of trying to set the drivers of fastboot/google and so on.
Is there a way to unlock bootloader & root by:
1) one of these "1 click" tools that do everything for the use?
2) Just do everything by the phone? (if there is a possible to install some how a recovery such as twrp and than root by some app?)
Could anybody guide me through the steps, if needed?
And i really prefer to do it on the device and not by ADB commands.
@istperson
I dont want to mess with th BL ... only for installing dev roms (or later then the stock with root).
Many thanks!
shabydog said:
@istperson
I dont want to mess with th BL ... only for installing dev roms (or later then the stock with root).
Many thanks!
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Well, you still will have to unlock it, if you want root, or want to flash a custom recovery.
Sent from my Nexus 6 running cyosp using Tapatalk
shabydog said:
......I really don't like the issue of trying to set the drivers of fastboot/google and so on!
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Than do not 'root' your phone.
hi xda.. i want to root my phone but dont want to touch it. is there a way to root my n6 without touching it? :silly:
simms22 said:
hi xda.. i want to root my phone but dont want to touch it. is there a way to root my n6 without touching it? :silly:
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Ha ha, or I don't want my birthday to be on the day I was born every year ?
I can recommend the NTRT, the Nexus Telepathic Rooting Tools.
OK.
I want to do that with a toolkit, only bcs it install the drivers.
What Is the most recommended and easiest to use?
I do looking for the 1 click do all.
Does NTRT do that?
Thank you all.
we are eventually goung to have a "my n6 is bricked, how do i fix it with one click" thread here. seriously though, thats what happens when you use toolkits, but do no real research about modding your device.
Toolkits are fine if you first understand what they are doing. Otherwise it's like giving a hand grenade to a child to play with.
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shabydog said:
Could anybody guide me through the steps, if needed?
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<prev> step <next>
simms22 said:
seriously though, thats what happens when you use toolkits, but do no real research about modding your device.
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I seriously belive that if a user know exactly for to chose and click - yes it could be great.
wtherrell said:
Toolkits are fine if you first understand what they are doing. Otherwise it's like giving a hand grenade to a child to play with.
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It is fairly enough to read directions and slowly-slowly.
NLBeev said:
<prev> step <next>
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Thanks!
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Bottom line:
Guess many users completed the unlocking & rooting by this tool
Why not?
shabydog said:
I seriously belive that if a user know exactly for to chose and click - yes it could be great.
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i agree with you. if there is somebody who knows the ins and outs already, a one click root would be great. and there will be. problem is that marshmallow just came out, and a few things have changed, like like yoe also need a custom kernel to have root on marshmallow.
shabydog said:
I seriously belive that if a user know exactly for to chose and click - yes it could be great.
It is fairly enough to read directions and slowly-slowly.
Bottom line:
Guess many users completed the unlocking & rooting by this tool
Why not?
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There is a reason you're pushing this topic, and I'm quite sure it's because you would feel safer, if there was a tool that did the scary things instead of you. Well, there's no such tool. If you were willing to search XDA, you would find out that the first two weeks after Marshmallow came out were about people bricking their Nexus 6s with toolkits. Then the toolkit got updated and suddenly it knew that is has to flash a modified boot.img too for the root not to brick the phone. But for two weeks it didn't know, because it wasn't necessary for Lollipop. And it will only work until the next security update comes out. And that's once a month.
Meanwhile those who were willing to use the search function, and learned the five minute procedure, were able to update their rooted phones to the next security update and were able to root it as soon as the new modified boot image came out.
And this above is not something somebody will put in a help, or instructions for future updates.
Actually, this is my first time and I was able to do it pretty easily.
fastboot devices
fastboot oem unlock
my bootloader was unlocked within 30 seconds of turning it on.
then, you can easily root via CF Auto root. Just put it into fastboot then doubleclick on the windows, then root, etc....
or.............go into fastboot flash recovery twrpxxxx.img, then it always offers to run SuperSU, and you get custom recovery and root at the same time, etc......
actually the biggest pain is unlocking the bootloader. My Galaxy S4 already was unlocked, so all I did was use goomanager, flash TWRP which always offers to run SuperSU if you don't have it.
Pretty easy, I did unlock bootloader, root, and custom recovery in 10 min.
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............................Then I got sick of stock Google's ROM in 15 min and wiped it and put a custom ROM instead.
Thank you all so much...
@mikeprius
Thank you so much for the info'!
But, could you plz write more details? such as:
1. How did you installed the drivers? (from my expirience, many times the pc dosent install this easily).
I just need the Google oem driver and that's it?
2. When drivers was set - did you made anything in your phones settings? Which?
3. What did you had to do before pushing the files? (Like...put all the files in the same folder? *which files?)
4. And then entered to fastboot mode and typed in these commands in pc:
fastboot devices
fastboot oem unlock
Regarding your last sentence ("or...."):
If i just flash the recovery via fastbot mode I can enter to twrp recovery and it offers to flash the SuperSU?
Sounds to me the best option.
Thanks!
1. The drivers were set from a previous device, so I didn't have to set them, but they can be downloaded and set though.
2. You need to enable developer options and select OEM unlock and USB debugging.
3. I didn't push the files, I just had them on my computer and ran fastboot commands.
4. Those commands are to unlock the bootloader.
There are a lot of different ways to do the same thing (Root, custom recovery, unlock bootloader)
1. Run CF Auto Root on a locked bootloader. It will unlock it automatically (Chainfire has it set that way), root, then download Flashify app and flash the latest img of TWRP.
2. Run fastboot commands to manually unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP, then use TWRP's SuperSU which will root it.
3. Run fastboot commands to unlock bootloader, run CF Autoroot which will root and load SuperSU, then flash TWRP via Flashify or fastboot.
There are many different ways to do the same thing. I actually just googled youtube videos and watched them.
TWRP has SuperSU and root built in. TWRP knows if you don't have it and offers to load it for you.
I went the scenic route just because, but presumably you can achieve all (3) using Option #1 without having to deal with fastboot, adb, etc.....Chainfire's script runs automatically.
I realy try to help people but users that run into problems because of the usage of tookits (and innability to solve problems and/or even lack the most basic knowledge needed) should ask the toolkit dev. for support imo, and not boughter users that have invested time and effort to gain that knowledge to clean up their mess. Period
Since there are some request from other fellow users, i decide to create a dedicated guide thread to show the process of UNLOCKING BOOTLOADER & ROOTING the Huawei Mate 10 (FOR MATE 10 LITE, CHECK BOTTOM OF THE POST)
Warning : Unlocking bootloader and rooting your phone come with a risk of bricked devices, bootlooping, loss of data, etc. I am not responsible for any harm that can happen during the process , ALWAYS MAKE BACKUP FIRST - use Huawei Backup App to backup your data to MicroSD, or get HiSuite ready to reflash your phone in case of brick situation happen
Pre-requisites :
1. "Enable OEM unlock" & "USB Debugging" option turned on from developer options
2. ADB & Fastboot installed on your WINDOWS 7 (YES, Win 10 has problem with Mate 10 Fastboot driver. except you know how to properly install the driver manually i would suggest you do this on Windows 7) - if you havent, search "Minimal ADB & fastboot" on XDA.
UPDATE : Windows 10 driver fix can be found HERE
3. Download FunkyHuawei Tool from : HERE - ALL CREDIT GOES TO FUNKYHUAWEI for PROVIDING THE TOOL
4. Valid Huawei Account logged in on your Mate 10
UNLOCKING BOOTLOADER
1. Go to : emui.huawei.com/en/plugin/unlock/index
2. Log in using your Huawei Account, make one if you dont have it yet
3. "Agree" to Huawei unlocking agreement presented
4. Input all neccessary values related to your device (the one you want to unlock) - IMEI, Model Number etc
5. Click "Commit"
6. You will get a pop up dialog, containing your unlock KEY. Save this key or screenshot the screen, you gonna need it to unlock your phone
7. Now, plug your phone to your PC. Assumed that you got USB debugging enabled, pop up will appear on your phone screen, asking whether you want to allow the PC to access your phone or not. Authorize the request
8. Fire up ADB on your CMD/Terminal. and type
Code:
adb devices
9. Your devices should listed on your adb window, if it isn't, either you didnt install the adb driver properly, or your usb port has problem
10. Now type
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
to reboot your phone to fastboot mode
11. Once the phone is booted up to the fastboot mode screen, type this in your CMD windows :
Code:
fastboot oem unlock [your UNLOCK KEY here]
- without the brackets
12. Confirmation dialog should appear on your phone screen, give you a warning about unlocking bootloader, just go with proceeding the process (YOU WILL LOSS YOUR USER DATA]
13. Once the unlocking process is finished, your phone will boot up to initial set up stage
14. Set up everything up until you can re-enable USB Debugging option in Developer Options (you can skip all account stuff, security and elses, you gonna do it again anyay after ROOTING)
15. Plug back your phone, and from your CMD Windows, retype this code :
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
16. Your phone will rebooted to FASTBOOT MODE again - now close your CMD Windows
ROOTING
1. Now launch "FHMate10Tool.exe" which you have downloaded from the prerequisites step
2. 5 Options will be presented, and the 1st is "Root your Mate 10"
3. Type "1" and hit ENTER
4. few more dialog and instructions will be given, and Rooting process will started
5. Once the process finished, your phone will booted back to initial set up screen with all USERDATA ERASED, but with SuperSU INSTALLED
CONGRATULATION, YOU HAVE ROOTED YOUR MATE 10
Addendum :
FOR MATE 10 LITE ONLY
Use same step to unlock bootloader.
Download TWRP from HERE and SuperSU from attached.
Place SuperSU to MicroSD and place TWRP img file to your directory in PC where fastboot and adb installed
Reboot to fastboot mode,
Execute this command :
Code:
fastboot boot twrp-mate10-lite.img
Your device will boot into temporary TWRP,
Go to Terminal in TWRP and type this :
Code:
echo "systemless = true" /data/.supersu
(Tick the bottom right corner)
go back to TWRP main menu and choose "Install"
Choose external storage and choose the Supersu.zip file and flash it,
Reboot System
Your device should be rooted.
Note : this method wont install TWRP to your device. You can install it using fastboot flash recovery twrp-mate10-lite.img command, but since the TWRP is still in beta stage, i do not recommend it.
Credit to Aonja for Mate 10 Lite TWRP img
Thanks for the info, I'm having difficulty getting a Windows 7 machine going, anyone know how to install the fastboot drivers manually on Windows 10?
Hello. I request that you don’t link directly to the google drive download page of the FunkyHuawei tool but rather if you want to link, link to the Reddit page that explains how to use it.
duraaraa said:
Hello. I request that you don’t link directly to the google drive download page of the FunkyHuawei tool but rather if you want to link, link to the Reddit page that explains how to use it.
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Noted, can you give me latest link ?
I was using link that given to me by customer support after purchasing credit
otonieru said:
Noted, can you give me latest link ?
I was using link that given to me by customer support after purchasing credit
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Check your PM for more info.
Basically the idea is, I might update it if a bug is found/fixed, so it should point to the latest version to avoid issues. If we have a direct link, that makes it difficult. Thanks
ballistykx said:
Thanks for the info, I'm having difficulty getting a Windows 7 machine going, anyone know how to install the fastboot drivers manually on Windows 10?
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You need to disable driver signature verification on windows 10. And install the huawei driver afterward
duraaraa said:
Check your PM for more info.
Basically the idea is, I might update it if a bug is found/fixed, so it should point to the latest version to avoid issues. If we have a direct link, that makes it difficult. Thanks
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Done
@otonieru , i have mate 10 standard,
- If i rooted the phone would i still receive OTA ? and if i received and installed them, would that brick my phone or just remove the root?
and if my phone ended up being bricked, is it easy to just flash back the rom of huawei using Hisuite ?
- is it easy to unroot the phone back to original, if i needed to use back the warranty? or maybe just flash the huawei rom.
- can the root be hidden ? like magisk ?
Thank you very much for this thread, it is a must ! <3
Two questions (sorry, I'm new to Huawei world...):
1. UNLOCKING BOOTLOADER does not void my warranty, right?
2. Will I loose root when install OTA update?
taddzio said:
Two questions (sorry, I'm new to Huawei world...):
1. UNLOCKING BOOTLOADER does not void my warranty, right?
2. Will I loose root when install OTA update?
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1. Yes, it voids it in most cases, but might depend on your local Huawei region.
2. Yes, you lose root.
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Shady282 said:
@otonieru , i have mate 10 standard,
- If i rooted the phone would i still receive OTA ? and if i received and installed them, would that brick my phone or just remove the root?
and if my phone ended up being bricked, is it easy to just flash back the rom of huawei using Hisuite ?
- is it easy to unroot the phone back to original, if i needed to use back the warranty? or maybe just flash the huawei rom.
- can the root be hidden ? like magisk ?
Thank you very much for this thread, it is a must ! <3
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If you root you will apparently still receive OTA. Receiving an OTA will unroot your phone, but should not brick it.
You can't unroot the phone back to original. Even if you relock the bootloader, it will show relocked, not locked. There are tools which you'd need to pay for which can help in that case.
The root cannot be hidden.
Anyone who roots, I urge you, be VERY VERY careful. Huawei phones are very finnicky, brick easily (the Mate 10 even more easily than previous versions), and there is no free way to restore them if they do brick. Even with paid methods,
it's not easy.
duraaraa said:
1. Yes, it voids it in most cases, but might depend on your local Huawei region.
2. Yes, you lose root.
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If you root you will apparently still receive OTA. Receiving an OTA will unroot your phone, but should not brick it.
You can't unroot the phone back to original. Even if you relock the bootloader, it will show relocked, not locked. There are tools which you'd need to pay for which can help in that case.
The root cannot be hidden.
Anyone who roots, I urge you, be VERY VERY careful. Huawei phones are very finnicky, brick easily (the Mate 10 even more easily than previous versions), and there is no free way to restore them if they do brick. Even with paid methods,
it's not easy.
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Dunno but you people are scaring me of rooting huawei tho i have rooted and flashed so many roms on my LG and other phones...
I mean if i follow the procedures and use your tool wouldn't that just work ? or there are factors that may affect it
Shady282 said:
Dunno but you people are scaring me of rooting huawei tho i have rooted and flashed so many roms on my LG and other phones...
I mean if i follow the procedures and use your tool wouldn't that just work ? or there are factors that may affect it
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The procedure is safe, but it's what you do with the root powers that could cause a brick. If you touch the wrong file on the phone, caput. In the worst case, the phone won't turn on, won't be recognized with USB, and can't be unbricked.
Obviously you're protected from doing that when you don't have root.
I've already lost two test devices to the symptoms described above.
So my opinion is, as the developer of the tool, root only if it's absolutely essential to you. And if you do root, only use the root privilege for things you absolutely must do, or things that have been tested on the phone and proven to be safe. Hopefully you won't brick it, but I need to put out this warning so I'm not blamed if someone does.
Any other down sides to unlocking bootloader and or rooting on this device eg apps auto removed, loss of camera functionality or codecs disabled etc as seen with other devices?
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Any other down sides to unlocking bootloader and or rooting on this device eg apps auto removed, loss of camera functionality or codecs disabled etc as seen with other devices?
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None as i may concern. Android pay wont work though, and some banking app as well. Since those app wont allow rooted phone.
But if you didnt use such an app. Or like me, have another phone for that, then its perfectly fine.
For me, there's more benefit / advantage come from rooting
Example :
1. Effective adblocking (not VPN solution)
2. Removing unneccessary stuff and app
3. Youtube without ads + background play
4. Better battery life (with appops, greenify, and my own GMSDoze)
5. Enabling VoLTE option
6. Audio MOD (gain, and better dual speaker)
7. etc
Fastboot driver fix
Use the fix from DC Unlocker for the fastboot driver under Windows 10
https://www.dc-unlocker.com/huawei-mate-10-fastboot-usb-device-not-recognised-fix
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Use the fix from DC Unlocker for the fastboot driver under Windows 10
https://www.dc-unlocker.com/huawei-mate-10-fastboot-usb-device-not-recognised-fix
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Thx for heads up,
I'll include it in main post soon
otonieru said:
None as i may concern. Android pay wont work though, and some banking app as well. Since those app wont allow rooted phone.
But if you didnt use such an app. Or like me, have another phone for that, then its perfectly fine.
For me, there's more benefit / advantage come from rooting...
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Good point about NFC pay methods, I do use those a lot.
I read a few people here having issues with their devices eg here, Lg devices has a similar issue with camera and missing appps, Samsung devices would lose the IR blaster after bootloader unlock.
somemadcaaant said:
Good point about NFC pay methods, I do use those a lot.
I read a few people here having issues with their devices eg here, Lg devices has a similar issue with camera and missing appps, Samsung devices would lose the IR blaster after bootloader unlock.
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Am still using nfc payment, but not android pay.
Android pay is not even working in my country after all.
Nothing is lose after UBL, this UBL method is official from huawei anyway
It may be that after unlocking the bootloader the theme manager does not correctly apply the themes in emui?
Thanks in advance
sonice21 said:
It may be that after unlocking the bootloader the theme manager does not correctly apply the themes in emui?
Thanks in advance
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Working just fine on mine. But experience might be vary.
Hi all,
I am trying to relock the bootloader on 3T, with no success. I want to do it because of too many apps nagging me or not working with unlocked bootloader
here's what I did to unlock in the past and relock:
unlocking:
- enable dev options, enable oem unlocking & usb debugging
- flashed TWRP & fastboot oem unlock from command line (don't remember which I did first)
- got my phone wiped which was an an unexpected surprise!
- bootloader unlocked, the fist of those lovely warning screens telling me so
- tried to root without success, so no custom ROMs for me
- lived with it like this for a while, too many apps telling me they won't work, decided to relock
- got latest stock ROM, flashed it via TWRP, wiped, tried to fastboot oem lock ==> success reported by CLI, BUT device still unlocked
- flashed just the 3t recovery img, wiped, fastboot oem lock ==> success reported by CLI, BUT device still unlocked
- tried the qualcomm unbrick tool after installing the recommended drivers, can't have it see my device maybe because it's not bricked or maybe some other reason, I don't know. it doesn't show up in the app. Will uninstall and reactivate driver signature checks soon unless someone explains me how to make the bloody phone show up ...
So at this moment I have a many times-wiped phone with latest 9.0.4 stock ROM whose bootloader won't lock back. I am quite at a loss. I haven't tried any magisk or similat, SuperSU at the time told me I am not rooted.
I am tearing out the few hairs I have left. Any help for this poor family man so that he may not be allowed to walk in darkness? (quote from Uninvited). Thanks
Why don't you use Magisk hide to hide root/unlock status to those apps instead of loosing root/adaway and more?
pitrus- said:
Why don't you use Magisk hide to hide root/unlock status to those apps instead of loosing root/adaway and more?
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I have never investigated Magisk, I think I installed it at the tima but there was some problem with it so I uninstalled it and didn't think much more about it. The problem is, my phone is not rooted (even though I tried it failed, I unlocked the bootloader to root it in the first place but was not successful), only OEM unblocked. So, so to say, I'm stuck in the worst of the possible worlds except for a bricked device. unlocked with no apparent way to relock it, and not rooted.
I feel like my phone is in some strange state where the normal procedures do not work. If I could at least figure out what's wrong with the rooting, I could go the full way AND then, in case use Magisk. but at the moment I feel like there is a need to put the phone in a known definite state whichever it is and work from there. I'd be happy to revert to stock and locked and then redo everything when needed in the future.
How could I troubleshoot further or get to such a "known state"? many thanks
The thing you did wrong was using the outdated SuperSU method of rooting which is not supported anymore. You should just flash the latest Magisk zip of their github page and then you will have root with the possibility of hiding it for bank apps and others.
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v20.4/Magisk-v20.4.zip
pitrus- said:
The thing you did wrong was using the outdated SuperSU method of rooting which is not supported anymore. You should just flash the latest Magisk zip of their github page and then you will have root with the possibility of hiding it for bank apps and others.
https://github.com/topjohnwu/Magisk/releases/download/v20.4/Magisk-v20.4.zip
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Thanks pitrus, I'll have a look at it tomorrow and will update with what happened
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Thanks pitrus, I'll have a look at it tomorrow and will update with what happened
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Hi, update. I installed Magisk but, seeing that it had a way to put the phone in EDL mode, instead of going full root I decided to go the other way around and try to make my phone as stock as possible and reserve the experiments to an unit other than my primary. So I used the Qualcomm "unbrick" tool, and was able to flash the OxygenOS version that came with it - a rather old Android 6 whose networking (wifi, mobile...) wasn't working. But an adb sideload of the latest version after having put the phone in recovery mode allowed me to restore the networking and to update to the last supported version.
Magisk made the difference in getting me out of the spot. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!
Totally stock pixel 5. Tried to sideload 12, and due to crappy instructions on XDA, that failed to mention the need to do the OEM unlock step, I ended up with a ADB sideload flash that failed at 94% and resulted in a empty A partition and a phone that failed to boot, so it switched to the backup system partition.
I'm now booted on the B partition (Android 11).
How can I fix my phone, so it's got 2 good system partitions?
Enable OEM unlocking, unlock bootloader, then use the Android Flash Tool to flash 12 Beta 5. Wiping /data shouldn't be necessary; however, if this fails and you have to force flash all partitions, a /data wipe will be required.
I highly recommend you keep the bootloader unlocked while using beta firmware, because it makes it a LOT easier to downgrade back to production firmware.
If you intend to root, don't forget to disable dm-verity and vbmeta-verification.
Detailed instructions on using the Android Flash Tool
Tip: When you get to the step of selecting which build to flash to your device, click the pencil icon to change options. Make sure you leave Relock Bootloader unchecked,
V0latyle said:
Wiping /data shouldn't be necessary
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But unlocking the bootloader will wipe the phone.....
EDIT: I'm assuming there is a wipe data option with Android Flash Tool?
I don't know. I've never used it
xunholyx said:
But unlocking the bootloader will wipe the phone.....
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Correct, but it's still necessary to install the beta (and downgrade)
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EDIT: I'm assuming there is a wipe data option with Android Flash Tool?
I don't know. I've never used it
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There is indeed. It's actually quite comprehensive.
I don't want to unlock the bootloader. I just want to get a system partition back, I do t want root or any modifications,
Chr1stOnABike said:
I don't want to unlock the bootloader. I just want to get a system partition back, I do t want root or any modifications,
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In that case, I believe the only option for you is to attempt to sideload the OTA via recovery.
Download the beta OTA here
Follow the instructions to apply the OTA here
If this does not work, you can try using the Android Flash Tool after enabling Developer Options and USB Debugging. You can choose not to wipe your device in the tool options. No guarantee this will work. Requires unlocked bootloader
I will say this: Running beta software on a locked bootloader is not only highly inadvisable, it's foolhardy. Beta software is EXPERIMENTAL, you use it AT YOUR OWN RISK, meaning it is YOUR responsibility to fix it if something goes wrong. Keeping your bootloader unlocked means your ability to fix it is limited, if not impossible.
V0latyle said:
In that case, I believe the only option for you is to attempt to sideload the OTA via recovery.
Download the beta OTA here
Follow the instructions to apply the OTA here
If this does not work, you can try using the Android Flash Tool after enabling Developer Options and USB Debugging. You can choose not to wipe your device in the tool options. No guarantee this will work.
I will say this: Running beta software on a locked bootloader is not only highly inadvisable, it's foolhardy. Beta software is EXPERIMENTAL, you use it AT YOUR OWN RISK, meaning it is YOUR responsibility to fix it if something goes wrong. Keeping your bootloader unlocked means your ability to fix it is limited, if not impossible.
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Flash tool doesn't work, as it expects to go i to recovery, and it doesn't it comes up with the no system error.
So when android 12 releases in a couple of weeks, will it just flash it to the other partition, to retain 11? In other words,will this fix itself in the fullness of time.
Also, who is going to fix the crappy XDA blog post that was poorly checked that caused this mess. I can't be the only one (I know the flawed instructions have been copied by the usual churnalists 9to5google Android authority, Android police)
Chr1stOnABike said:
Flash tool doesn't work, as it expects to go i to recovery, and it doesn't it comes up with the no system error.
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Ah. Well, you can fix this, but it will require unlocking the bootloader.
You can always relock it after you're done.
Chr1stOnABike said:
So when android 12 releases in a couple of weeks, will it just flash it to the other partition, to retain 11? In other words,will this fix itself in the fullness of time.
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Don't know. Given that you can't boot into recovery, you can't sideload the OTA to test this theory. I personally doubt it. You can either wait and see, or you can just bite the bullet and fix the issue.
Chr1stOnABike said:
Also, who is going to fix the crappy XDA blog post that was poorly checked that caused this mess. I can't be the only one (I know the flawed instructions have been copied by the usual churnalists 9to5google Android authority, Android police)
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Link to the post? You may not be the only one, but the majority of folks (including myself, I was in the Marine Corps for 9 years so you can guess my mental acuity) have been able to use the instructions to our success.
Isn't unlocking and relocking bootloader detectable in soft fuses and an instant warranty void?
How to install Android 12 and 12L on Google Pixel and other Android devices
Google has just released Android 12L beta for the Pixel lineup. Here is how you can install Android 12 (or 12L) on your smartphone!
www.xda-developers.com
Someone in the comments also broke their phone by following the untested Instructions.
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Isn't unlocking and relocking bootloader detectable in soft fuses and an instant warranty void?
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I'm not sure. But that raises a question for you: Why are you running beta firmware if you're worried about the warranty?
Chr1stOnABike said:
How to install Android 12 and 12L on Google Pixel and other Android devices
Google has just released Android 12L beta for the Pixel lineup. Here is how you can install Android 12 (or 12L) on your smartphone!
www.xda-developers.com
Someone in the comments also broke their phone by following the untested Instructions.
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I have updated my phone using both of these methods and can personally confirm the instructions are correct. The only difference I would point out is that I'm comfortable enough using adb and fastboot commands that I manually type them and don't use the batch file.
It is your responsibility to understand the instructions and follow them. You flash and modify your device at your own risk. If you do not fully understand the instructions, it is also your responsibility to either find the details you need, or ask for help.
This may seem rather condescending or apathetic, but the situation is this:
- You tried to run experimental beta firmware on your device despite your concerns for the warranty
- You did not ask questions before doing so, and if you did read any of the multiple threads on this issue, you would have been acutely aware of the recommendation to unlock your bootloader before you proceed
- You are now left with few options to fix your device because you decided to ignore experienced advice and do things your own way
As I stated previously, the responsibility for fixing things is yours and yours alone. If you were that concerned with your warranty, you should have kept your phone completely stock and avoided installing the beta.
I have one last recommendation for you:
Disenroll from the beta program and wait for the OTA to take you back to A11 public release. A data wipe will be required.
You have been told in detail what you can do to fix your device. What you do now is completely up to you.
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I'm not sure. But that raises a question for you: Why are you running beta firmware if you're worried about the warranty?
I have updated my phone using both of these methods and can personally confirm the instructions are correct. .
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The instructions only work if you have previously done the unmentioned OEM unlock step, which you must have done.
The fact you don't understand this, it limits your credibility. Just because something worked for you, doesn't make it correct.
It also sounds like you don't understand the difference between OEM unlock and a bootloader unlock.
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The instructions only work if you have previously done the unmentioned OEM unlock step, which you must have done.
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Yes - I unlocked and rooted my phone the day I got it, and I bought it full price direct from Google. Your point?
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The fact you don't understand this, it limits your credibility. Just because something worked for you, doesn't make it correct.
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Yes, it's always worked for me. I've been trying to work with you here and give you options that do not require OEM Unlock or unlocking the bootloader. The reason I thought the Android Flash Tool might work is because it's literally a tool provided by Google, and though it uses ADB, I figured they might have some sort of security to allow recovery of locked phones.
What exactly is it you don't think I understand? As I've pointed out, you decided to install beta software on your device despite your concerns for warranty. As I ALSO pointed out, if warranty was that much of a concern for you, you should have stayed on stock public release firmware and not messed with anything at all.
I will admit that the guide you linked does not mention needing an unlocked bootloader. I think it's generally been assumed among us in the community that modifying your device requires an unlocked bootloader. I will talk to the mods and see if we can get a note added to the post. However, you seemed to miss the big warning that advises against using the beta on your daily driver.
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It also sounds like you don't understand the difference between OEM unlock and a bootloader unlock.
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Again, how so? If you're going to call me ignorant, you had better explain how.
OEM Unlock simply sets a flag: "unlock-ability" to 1. It's an on/off switch that corresponds to the 1 or 0 set for the "unlock-ability" flag. It has no other function.
When someone attempts to unlock the bootloader, the device checks that flag. If it's 0, the bootloader cannot be unlocked. If it's 1, it can.
Unlocking the bootloader disables security features that prevent you from flashing partitions on your phone, or booting images sent via ADB. The reason why this is important when running custom or experimental firmware is because it allows the user to reflash corrupted partitions (like in your case). It allows a lot more freedom over what you can do with your phone.
I've been doing this for years - more than 10 years in fact. I would be careful about making accusations like "you don't understand the difference" or "you don't know what you're talking about'" to someone who is trying to help you. I understand you're frustrated, but you're going to have to swallow your pride here and admit, at least to yourself, that you screwed up. It seems pretty clear to me that you either did not fully understand the risk of trying to modify your device with a locked bootloader (yes, installing the beta counts as a modification), or you ignored the risk and tried to do it anyway. Yet you come here and impugn my credibility? As they say, "check yourself before you wreck yourself". You screwed up and got yourself into this mess. You alone are to blame. No one has to help you, and believe me, I've been quite tempted to tell you to pound sand. The least you can do is show a little gratitude for someone who's trying to help, and respect for experience and knowledge far beyond your own.
I have one more option for you: Rescue mode.
Reboot your phone into bootloader (hold power + volume down, release power but keep holding volume down when screen turns off)
Use volume buttons to select rescue mode on the right side, then press power to select
Google Pixel Repair Tool
This probably won't work because the repair tool only works if the firmware on your phone is older or equivalent to the firmware the repair tool has.
Chr1stOnABike said:
The instructions only work if you have previously done the unmentioned OEM unlock step, which you must have done.
The fact you don't understand this, it limits your credibility. Just because something worked for you, doesn't make it correct.
It also sounds like you don't understand the difference between OEM unlock and a bootloader unlock.
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I haven't had time to read much of this thread yet, but why insult the one person I see who's trying to help you?
I've seen this before and other users who may know what to do, usually just walk away as they don't want to help someone who may just insult them or are clearly unappreciative of the help given.
Everyone let's all keep it civilized.
If you have issue with a post, please hit report button and walk away.
Positive vibes, all.
--andybones
@Chr1stOnABike I am indeed trying to help you, as I understand your situation is frustrating. I also understand that it may be frustrating to be told to do what you didn't want to do in the first place, but the reason why I'm telling you to do it is because it'll be of the most help to you.
Losing your data sucks. I get it. But fortunately the Pixel 5 is great about backing everything up to your Google account. Just make sure your photos are backed up and you'll be fine. Setting it back up after a wipe is a pain in the ass, but again, I'm recommending the bootloader unlock because I believe it's your best chance at recovery.
As far as that goes, I'm still trying to be flexible and provide you with different options. Be aware that if these other options don't work, you have no other choice. I'm not saying that to be rude, that's just the reality of it.
And lastly, I would very much appreciate you making the distinction between thinking I'm wrong because you have evidence to the contrary, vs thinking I'm wrong simply because you don't like my recommendations. If you sincerely believe I'm incorrect and can demonstrate how, please feel free to do so.
My only objective here is to help people the best I can with the knowledge and experience I have.
For those who ever get stuck like I did. When I got stuck in a bootloop, I realized I could 'fastboot boot twrp.img' and was able to save my internal storage from being lost by backing up to PC with TWRP, then move it back onto internal after the factory reset. Did I lost app data in these cases, yes. But that's my own fault for not regularly backup app data up with something like Swift or AppDash.
@Chr1stOnABike just checking in to see if you were able to get your problem resolved?