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My concern are Android updates

I think the specs for the OnePlus Three for the price are AMAZING and unbelievable, it's almost $150 less than the Nexus 6P, with 2016 flagship hardware, and the leaked pictures show it to be a very high quality crafted device. The new Three looks like a larger HTC 10, which is fine by me, as the 10 is a great smartphone.
But...
My biggest gripes with OPO are the slow Android updates. I recall Lollipop taking for god damn ever to officially make it out for the original One, like 6 months, or you could have installed the alpha CM11 at the time, which was pretty buggy until the bugs were worked out, obviously, but the official OnePlus One Lollipop OS update took a very long time.
This OnePlus Three will be lucky to see Android N within 90 days after the Nexus phones get it first in October, or you can install the alpha CM14 sooner on it, and live through all the kinks and bugs, that will have, while waiting for OPO to release N.
I thought one of the big features on these OPO phones being AOSP based, would have been super fast Android updates, not Nexus fast updates obviously, but at least faster than the skinned versions of Android like HTC, LG, Samsung, etc... but that hasn't been the case. I thought OnePlus would have the latest version of Android on them within like 30 days or so after Nexus phones, in reality they are worse than Samsung.
Bottom line; Great flagship hardware for a budget price. Beautiful design.
But...software is really amateur for an official professional phone release. I'd rather Cyanogen be back on board creating a stable pro CM13S for this phone. Oxygen OS still seems like some weekend development project.

OnePlus came late with their Android6.0 update for the OP2, so I share your concerns.
But the custom development for the OP3 will be great, so many ROMS there before the official updates.
And many other brands are also slow with updates, or even slower. (not an excuse for OnePlus )
I will go for the OP3 because:
to go for a device with guaranteed faster updates you limit your device choice, you will most likely pay a lot more, and the specs won't be much better, and the XDA development will most likely be worse.
So (expecting) slow updates is a legit disadvantage, but it doesn't win from the advantages in my opinion.

Good points thanks
Now let's see some real hands on reviews. How good is the AMOLED screen being in 1080p ? Is the build quality as high and great like HTC 10 ? Speaker sounds ? Feel in hand ?
I know hardware wise it's gonna be a champ.

I guess you did not see the news?
http://www.xda-developers.com/oxygenos-open-sourced-ahead-of-oneplus-3-launch/

Will that news get us Android N much faster ? I wanna see the OnePlus Three get Android N like 30 days after the Nexus phones, then i impressed.

I just got the one plus two yesterday, found out about the 3 two days after I ordered, ugh. No worries though, I believe it will be released by the 14th and that is well within my return period!
I can't even explain how cool just the box it comes in is! This is quality I would pay s7 prices for, hands down. I keep looking around for cops every time I pick up the phone, feels like I stole it! But seriously, the OTA's don't bother me a bit, they'll get here when they get here! I feel like the development here on xda will be enough to tide someone over until we get a proper image. I feel like this OP3 is going to be the banger for one plus all together.
The 1080p question the OP had, I honestly feel like that's just a marketing ploy by the big boys, can the naked eye really tell on a phone, even this size? For me personally, I don't notice anything! I honestly think you'll be able to look past both of those once you feel the box...lol!
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while we all are at xda, i don't really care about update from OP. You bet - the very first custom ROM will be available in weeks from June 14th and android N will be on OP# in days.

As someone who has paid top dollar for Samsung flagship phones, all I can say is that updates are slow here, too - maybe even slower than Oneplus .
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obviously it will be slower getting ota's compared to nexus devices. but the op3 should have a good dev community so i wouldn't worry.

how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?

2x4 said:
how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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We don't but as oos is open source and i think oneplus won't make the mistake twice, as the community will have a look, how they handle stuff

saintxseiya said:
We don't but as oos is open source and i think oneplus won't make the mistake twice, as the community will have a look, how they handle stuff
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Well, OOS isn't so "open-source". They forked CAF code and they put it on github.

2x4 said:
how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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Maybe this forums.oneplus.net/threads/rom-6-0-1-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13.450156 answers your question.

fix-this! said:
obviously it will be slower getting ota's compared to nexus devices. but the op3 should have a good dev community so i wouldn't worry.
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I don't care about the development community for any device. I judge a phone by the speed of its official updates.

Super Chimp said:
I don't care about the development community for any device. I judge a phone by the speed of its official updates.
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It will get N just not as fast as nexus but probably faster than samsung or lg.

fix-this! said:
It will get N just not as fast as nexus but probably faster than samsung or lg.
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I wouldn't count on that. The oneplus team is very small and it took them longer than lg and Samsung to release marshmallow.

I'm considering replacing my Nexus 5 with OP3. Do they provide monthly security updates like google?

mykimouse said:
There's a Telegram Super Group where Devs/Modders/Testers/Users can join and expect quick replies and updates.
Lets join it https://telegram.me/OnePlus_3
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Seriously considering getting one of these, just trying to justify the amount of money I need to spend to obtain one, at that point I will join the group.

First OTA update for the OP3

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First OTA update for the OP3
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Can you send me the boot.img from your device? I will remove verity checks and I am not sure if encryption is on by default, I can also remove that.

Android 8.0 Oreo Discussion

So who's excited for Oreo!?
What features are you looking forward to the most?
For me it would be Project Treble!
Is there any devs here already working on a custom rom?

I'm looking forward to people stopping asking when it's coming.

Someone managed to get it to boot on a OP3, so wait a bit and you'll see it appear in XDA

Personally I'm waiting for Android P, because... I love peanut-butter. Anyone know when it will be released?

Yet another O thread, I might create an Android O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z anticipation thread so get it all out the way.

Kahun said:
So who's excited for Oreo!?
What features are you looking forward to the most?
For me it would be Project Treble!
Is there any devs here already working on a custom rom?
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yep, there are some..

On the basis that this is just an appreciation and excitement thread rather than an ETA thread I would say I'm looking forward to picture in picture for YouTube specifically.
Also looking forward to notification channels but think I will need to eventually try it to fully understand it's potential.
In the background I'm most excited for Google doing more to curb background battery drain from rogue apps as battery life is what I look to most in a phone.
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Jowhee said:
Personally I'm waiting for Android P, because... I love peanut-butter. Anyone know when it will be released?
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Next year

I'm most excited about the Autofill Framework. I've been using LastPass for a couple of years now and while it works decently on the phone, on many occasions I have to switch back and forth between LastPass and the app/website I'm trying to login into. Many times it takes more time and effort than I would like to and hopefully this new API will help integrate this feature seamlessly.

I read on the xda labs page that it might support OMS natively .. which is a big plus for me ... a couple of another features that i've seen are also interesting.

Jowhee said:
Personally I'm waiting for Android P, because... I love peanut-butter. Anyone know when it will be released?
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https://www.marshmallowpeeps.com/

djsubterrain said:
I'm looking forward to people stopping asking when it's coming.
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I'm happy with the progress with what we have now. Thank you to all the developers.
Moded ass OP5

This thread makes me feel like this is oneplus forums..

Great to see people excited about it and many developers already started doing development.
Good news for OP5 users!
halogenOS 8.0 development is ongoing. Releases for OnePlus 5, OnePlus 3 and OnePlus 2 will be coming as soon as we can manage.
In case there is a need to modify TWRP, I'll take a look at that as well.

caki25 said:
I read on the xda labs page that it might support OMS natively .. which is a big plus for me ... a couple of another features that i've seen are also interesting.
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Yes fully OOS level theme support of Substratum or a OnePlus own theme UI would be appreciated. I'd personally would vote for Substratum as there is already a mature theme library available on the playstore.

I'm also looking forward to the battery drain reduction from background apps.

ab7casper said:
I'm also looking forward to the battery drain reduction from background apps.
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Lets all hope that finally holds true.

ab7casper said:
I'm also looking forward to the battery drain reduction from background apps.
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Would be nicer if we had new battery tech! Lithium ion batteries been abouts since the 90s! We need some sort of breakthrough then we wont even really need these battery drain reductions.

A little off topic bit also exciting! Just need to see this tech move further along now. Maybe in the next 10 years this is what all gadgets will use. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/tech/super-safe-glass-battery-charges-in-minutes-not-hours/

bitojoe said:
A little off topic bit also exciting! Just need to see this tech move further along now. Maybe in the next 10 years this is what all gadgets will use. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/tech/super-safe-glass-battery-charges-in-minutes-not-hours/
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Did he work at Samsung? Too soon?

Realme announces Android 10 update Q2 2020 for the Realme X2 Pro

https://www.xda-developers.com/realme-android-10-update-coloros-7-roadmap-realme-x2-pro/
Hopefully much sooner it will also get a Google camera 7 mod.
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-7-2-astrophotography-super-res-zoom-pixels/

That is between April and June. That's really poor.

Seems like crap support,
Wonder what the frequency of updates regarding bug fixes, features and security updates is.
Can't confidently buy this phone at the moment with lack of any assurances from RealMe

manus31 said:
Seems like crap support,
Wonder what the frequency of updates regarding bug fixes, features and security updates is.
Can't confidently buy this phone at the moment with lack of any assurances from RealMe
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I've already purchased. Has so much potential. The OS is still somewhat Chinese even in English. If you could get oxygenOS it would be awesome.

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I've already purchased. Has so much potential. The OS is still somewhat Chinese even in English. If you could get oxygenOS it would be awesome.
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I'm sure the EU version will have no Chinese but the OS itself in terms of features and performance will be similar,
Have you received any OTA updates ?
Security patches ?
How's the camera performance ?

manus31 said:
I'm sure the EU version will have no Chinese but the OS itself in terms of features and performance will be similar,
Have you received any OTA updates ?
Security patches ?
How's the camera performance ?
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I have gotten 2 updates for it so far. One after I turned it on and one yesterday I think just a minor update for security and gesture functionality. Camera is actually not too bad. For some reason tho in my room I'll get these black bars going across the camera but not with the wide angle lens. It doesn't appear outside or anywhere else tho and I don't know what in my room would cause they lol but it shows up in pictures. Outside pictures with good lighting came out really well maybe a lil too much highlight but with some updates it would be cool. I really wanted a 7T for the macro mode on the camera and surprise this one has a super macro mode that actually works pretty well too. I don't know if I can post photos in here or no I don't know how. Don't use this forum often as I was on iPhone life the last 2 years.

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I have gotten 2 updates for it so far. One after I turned it on and one yesterday I think just a minor update for security and gesture functionality. Camera is actually not too bad. For some reason tho in my room I'll get these black bars going across the camera but not with the wide angle lens. It doesn't appear outside or anywhere else tho and I don't know what in my room would cause they lol but it shows up in pictures. Outside pictures with good lighting came out really well maybe a lil too much highlight but with some updates it would be cool. I really wanted a 7T for the macro mode on the camera and surprise this one has a super macro mode that actually works pretty well too. I don't know if I can post photos in here or no I don't know how. Don't use this forum often as I was on iPhone life the last 2 years.
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Yes,the features of the camera are great on paper but I've seen a lot of comparisons on YouTube and it seems to fall short compared to the Oneplus 7T for example but it can improve with updates and probably will.
I'm encouraged to hear you have gotten two updates already but am disappointed that Realme won't be giving Android 10 until q2 next year,that's quite late and they don't state anywhere their policy on the life of support which you would hope would be at least 2 years.
Macro mode looks awesome and the zoom,have you tried that ?
I might actually email Realme and ask them about software because in fairness they did email me back the last time I asked them about shipping and stuff,
I might buy this if the support will last 2 to 3 years but will need to lol at some other reviews
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You can attach photos here using the yellow attach icon on the XDA app anyway

Yeah I'm not thrilled about Android 10 coming so late. I didn't even know there was an app so this makes everything way easier lol. Hopefully some nice custom ROMs will come out similar to oxygenOS. The OS is very fluid but still have something in Chinese and no Google assistant as built in assistant which I was really looking forward to. I'm attaching pictures I just went outside to take to show you 1x,2x,5x, and wide angle (or not keeps saying bad request?)

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Yeah I'm not thrilled about Android 10 coming so late. I didn't even know there was an app so this makes everything way easier lol. Hopefully some nice custom ROMs will come out similar to oxygenOS. The OS is very fluid but still have something in Chinese and no Google assistant as built in assistant which I was really looking forward to. I'm attaching pictures I just went outside to take to show you 1x,2x,5x, and wide angle (or not keeps saying bad request?)
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I think you should probably wait for the global rom to sort out your issues with the google,yes some custom ROMs would also be nice.
Maybe you can only upload small pictures here I don't know

manus31 said:
I think you should probably wait for the global rom to sort out your issues with the google,yes some custom ROMs would also be nice.
Maybe you can only upload small pictures here I don't know
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How hard is it to flash another rom? I don't do that stuff often. I tried when I was younger on an no old Android and wiped it clean lol.

chipcamel said:
How hard is it to flash another rom? I don't do that stuff often. I tried when I was younger on an no old Android and wiped it clean lol.
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I'm not too keen on it myself,did a bit when I was younger but there are plenty of tutorials out there and XDA is quite useful of you have any questions.
Right now I'm just at the point where I need the phone to work and I need the manufacturer to support the OS of my device,
Currently have a Oneplus 6T and it's great for software,just got stable A10 yesterday morning on 1 year old device. If I was you I might start thinking of trading in your Realme for a OnePlus 7T or 7T pro.
The X2 pro is great on paper but I'm not sure about the software at all. Will be interesting to see some more reviews for the device especially as it comes out in the EU next week

I just switched to it today from my X. Will see how it does this week as a daily. Runs fornite mobile with a controller really well and COD mobile looks even better so smooth it's insane with highest graphics.

manus31 said:
Yes,the features of the camera are great on paper but I've seen a lot of comparisons on YouTube and it seems to fall short compared to the Oneplus 7T for example but it can improve with updates and probably will.
I'm encouraged to hear you have gotten two updates already but am disappointed that Realme won't be giving Android 10 until q2 next year,that's quite late and they don't state anywhere their policy on the life of support which you would hope would be at least 2 years.
Macro mode looks awesome and the zoom,have you tried that ?
I might actually email Realme and ask them about software because in fairness they did email me back the last time I asked them about shipping and stuff,
I might buy this if the support will last 2 to 3 years but will need to lol at some other reviews
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You can attach photos here using the yellow attach icon on the XDA app anyway
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Finally let me upload some pics here is 1x,2x, and 5x

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Finally let me upload some pics here is 1x,2x, and 5x
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Hey Dude,cheers for the samples,they look good but I'm no expert.
Have looked at a lot of comparisons on YouTube and when they compare the camera on the x2 pro to that of a flagship like the p30 pro or iPhone 11 they generally say the x2 pro suffers in some areas.
I would say your photos look good but not amazing,maybe they aren't that sharp or the color is a bit off,maybe a bit noisy in areas,again no expert.
But how's the rest of the phone going,is the ColorOS any good,is it annoying,
How are the features etc ?
Still haven't pre ordered mine and not sure yet if I will

manus31 said:
Hey Dude,cheers for the samples,they look good but I'm no expert.
Have looked at a lot of comparisons on YouTube and when they compare the camera on the x2 pro to that of a flagship like the p30 pro or iPhone 11 they generally say the x2 pro suffers in some areas.
I would say your photos look good but not amazing,maybe they aren't that sharp or the color is a bit off,maybe a bit noisy in areas,again no expert.
But how's the rest of the phone going,is the ColorOS any good,is it annoying,
How are the features etc ?
Still haven't pre ordered mine and not sure yet if I will
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Pictures aren't bad especially in good lighting. Idk if photos get compressed when uploaded so that could be another reason. ColorOS is okay it's like a iOS kinda vibe but very well Android. It's usable but you can't change launchers or set default apps. Some stuff on the phone is still in Chinese. No Google assistant you have breeno instead which isn't usable because all Chinese. They have their own iCloud type deal on the phone too which doesn't work well cause again Chinese. Battery life tho is really good so far one of the best phones I've had with battery life and the charging is unreal how fast it is. I also pull faster data speeds on my iPhone X than this phone. WiFi is fast but my T-Mobile data is half as fast or less than that compared to the same service on the iPhone . If they could get oxygenOS on this thing it would be a beast.

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Pictures aren't bad especially in good lighting. Idk if photos get compressed when uploaded so that could be another reason. ColorOS is okay it's like a iOS kinda vibe but very well Android. It's usable but you can't change launchers or set default apps. Some stuff on the phone is still in Chinese. No Google assistant you have breeno instead which isn't usable because all Chinese. They have their own iCloud type deal on the phone too which doesn't work well cause again Chinese. Battery life tho is really good so far one of the best phones I've had with battery life and the charging is unreal how fast it is. I also pull faster data speeds on my iPhone X than this phone. WiFi is fast but my T-Mobile data is half as fast or less than that compared to the same service on the iPhone . If they could get oxygenOS on this thing it would be a beast.
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Thanks for the detailed insight,I do think most of these google related problems will not exist on the global EU version,there will be no Chinese on that and you should be able to set the default launcher, OxygenOS would probably be amazing on this phone,it all depends on the dev community,though things do seem fairly quiet so far for this phone on XDA,I'm sure it will gain some type of dev following

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Thanks for the detailed insight,I do think most of these google related problems will not exist on the global EU version,there will be no Chinese on that and you should be able to set the default launcher, OxygenOS would probably be amazing on this phone,it all depends on the dev community,though things do seem fairly quiet so far for this phone on XDA,I'm sure it will gain some type of dev following
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Even if no one makes custom roms for this phone would I still be able to flash the global ROM when it becomes available?

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Even if no one makes custom roms for this phone would I still be able to flash the global ROM when it becomes available?
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That I do not know for sure with Realme but I don't think you will have a problem,The hardware is the same so I would hope you could easily flash the global rom.
Keep an eye on the forums here for advice and maybe read elsewhere like reddit.

Oppo are launching Color OS 7 with Android 10 next week and Realme are launching this phone in India the same day. Seems unlikely to me that they'd hurt sales by not getting this OS to this phone a lot sooner than Q2 next year.
Full story on GSMArena

Regarding Android 10, the twitter account for Realme Spain confirmed that it will release on Q1 2020 for every Realme in Europe. So it's a bit earlier than expected.

Question Should I buy a redmi note 10 pro?

Hello, everyone. I'm hoping to join the redmi note 10 pro community very soon. However, I'm really confused whether I should invest in it because most of the reviews on Youtube are saying that there is always bugs. I was just wondering if any of you could tell me whether most of the bugs have been fixed by now. I just want to know if it is at least usable. It's got literally every feature I want. All I need to know is how is the software holding up. I've seen that even the Redmi note 10 is more stable than note 10 pro. I really hope that's not true.
Thanks in advance.

In my experience with it, which would be a few weeks now... I have not had any problems with it, as I am not what you would describe as a "power user".
All basic features which you would expect a mid-range smartphone to have, work perfectly.
This is all from my experiences, and my opinion. Hopefully someone else on here can also comment their thoughts.

I bought it one week ago: Only really bad thing is the AOD (better: NOT always on display). Furthermore, I didn't mention a single bug till now. So if you can deal without a AOD (there is a hack around, but it will suffer much from battery), buy it, really nothing wrong with it.

barryallen3038 said:
Hello, everyone. I'm hoping to join the redmi note 10 pro community very soon. However, I'm really confused whether I should invest in it because most of the reviews on Youtube are saying that there is always bugs. I was just wondering if any of you could tell me whether most of the bugs have been fixed by now. I just want to know if it is at least usable. It's got literally every feature I want. All I need to know is how is the software holding up. I've seen that even the Redmi note 10 is more stable than note 10 pro. I really hope that's not true.
Thanks in advance.
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If you use your phone to connect to your car then please DO NOT BUY this phone. Android Auto does not work, irrespective of which region ROM you flash ,Seems to be an issue with the MIUI 12.5 and i am hoping this to be resolved with Android 12, but its JUST a hope.

Buy only if you're going to flash custom ROMs. Otherwise samsung can be a better alternative.

Thank you guys for replying so soon!
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If you use your phone to connect to your car then please DO NOT BUY this phone. Android Auto does not work, irrespective of which region ROM you flash ,Seems to be an issue with the MIUI 12.5 and i am hoping this to be resolved with Android 12, but its JUST a hope.
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Android Auto is totally unheard of where I live xD. But yeah, I don't have a car so I can live with that. Honestly, though it's annoying that such a big company can't manage to fix the bugs on such a popular phone like this.
Regardless, I think I'll actually buy this phone cos it's got literally every feature you could ask for, including Dolby sound. I'm coming from a bloody Huawei P smart 2018 so literally any phone I buy will be great right now

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Buy only if you're going to flash custom ROMs. Otherwise samsung can be a better alternative.
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I do have experience flashing custom ROMs but it was really bad. Every ROM I flashed had some kind of weird issue like WiFi wasn't working or GPS had issues and even the sound quality became worse.
Did you face any issues like these with your ROMs?

barryallen3038 said:
I do have experience flashing custom ROMs but it was really bad. Every ROM I flashed had some kind of weird issue like WiFi wasn't working or GPS had issues and even the sound quality became worse.
Did you face any issues like these with your ROMs?
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No such issues. We just need to find the right ROM.

No issues at all using CrDroid for "normal" use.

barryallen3038 said:
Hello, everyone. I'm hoping to join the redmi note 10 pro community very soon. However, I'm really confused whether I should invest in it because most of the reviews on Youtube are saying that there is always bugs. I was just wondering if any of you could tell me whether most of the bugs have been fixed by now. I just want to know if it is at least usable. It's got literally every feature I want. All I need to know is how is the software holding up. I've seen that even the Redmi note 10 is more stable than note 10 pro. I really hope that's not true.
Thanks in advance.
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Redmi Note 10 PRO 108MP is just the perfect phone for it's price!
NO ANY BUGS!
I have watched all phone YouTube reviews before getting one and I haven't met such a videos which you are dreaming about!

lubo777 said:
Redmi Note 10 PRO 108MP is just the perfect phone for it's price!
NO ANY BUGS!
I have watched all phone YouTube reviews before getting one and I haven't met such a videos which you are dreaming about!
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I'm glad to hear that! I have watched many reviews, especially the ones after 60 days or 120 days and literally everyone said they faced this bug or that bug. The bugs itself are not always same but there is always bugs.
Anyway, I might actually end up buying it!

what about the proximity sensor issue ? Is it fixed when using custom roms ?

This phone rocks
Plenty of nice ROM depends of what you want.
Android Auto is working like a charm for me, battery is perfect and 0 bug, using Arrow OS. I'm really glad that i switched for this phone few months ago.

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what about the proximity sensor issue ? Is it fixed when using custom roms ?
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Not for me sadly, very buggy in WhatsApp with AOSP Extended,

I think this is the most popular mid-range phone going around. Its reviews are great. I had Redmi Note 10 which was a budget masterpiece, had an insane battery life. This one surely will be better overall as its the pro model. I think in its budget this one is worth it.

Question Thinkin' about buying the OnePlus 10 Pro

So, long story short, my old OnePlus 6 fell from my pocket and broke, in one unlucky accident. I've decided to "upgrade myself" and go for a more recent model. I'm used to flash custom ROMs and try many of them until I find one that suits my needs and that's pretty stable.
I wanted to buy the OnePlus 10 Pro but it's my understanding that you can "just" root it? I haven't followed the Oppo drama lately so I don't know if it comes from the fact that the phone has been released "recently" or they locked things similarly to Huawei.

Stuccio said:
So, long story short, my old OnePlus 6 fell from my pocket and broke, in one unlucky accident. I've decided to "upgrade myself" and go for a more recent model. I'm used to flash custom ROMs and try many of them until I find one that suits my needs and that's pretty stable.
I wanted to buy the OnePlus 10 Pro but it's my understanding that you can "just" root it? I haven't followed the Oppo drama lately so I don't know if it comes from the fact that the phone has been released "recently" or they locked things similarly to Huawei.
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If looking to still do Roms go for a 9 pro

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If looking to still do Roms go for a 9 pro
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Is it because of some sort of lock or what? Because I would still buy it if I know that there'll be the chance to go custom in the future.
Thanks for the info btw.

Stuccio said:
Is it because of some sort of lock or what? Because I would still buy it if I know that there'll be the chance to go custom in the future.
Thanks for the info btw.
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There's no lock it has to do with the msm recovery tool. Since oneplus now charges for it to be used developer's don't want to touch newer phones.

Stuccio said:
So, long story short, my old OnePlus 6 fell from my pocket and broke, in one unlucky accident. I've decided to "upgrade myself" and go for a more recent model. I'm used to flash custom ROMs and try many of them until I find one that suits my needs and that's pretty stable.
I wanted to buy the OnePlus 10 Pro but it's my understanding that you can "just" root it? I haven't followed the Oppo drama lately so I don't know if it comes from the fact that the phone has been released "recently" or they locked things similarly to Huawei.
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Really, don't. Pixel 7 Pro or wait for another, it's a trying time for Android..seemingly dying compared to what it used to be like.

the_rooter said:
There's no lock it has to do with the msm recovery tool. Since oneplus now charges for it to be used developer's don't want to touch newer phones.
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That's... sad.
Well, 9 pro will be, then, unless there are better options available.
dladz said:
Really, don't. Pixel 7 Pro or wait for another, it's a trying time for Android..seemingly dying compared to what it used to be like.
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I wasn't sure whether the Pixel series was comparable to OP in terms of power and customization.
Well, thanks to everybody for their answers!

OPPO 10 Pro is a **** phone.
Buy a pixel

I ditched my 10 Pro awhile ago, and I'm happily back to my 9 Pro!

galaxys said:
I ditched my 10 Pro awhile ago, and I'm happily back to my 9 Pro!
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Don't blame you buddy, I wish I'd kept my 8 pro..it was mint and running Evo X..
Gutted

dladz said:
Don't blame you buddy, I wish I'd kept my 8 pro..it was mint and running Evo X..
Gutted
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Feel your pain missing a great performing 8 Pro device! Cheers

I like the wallpapers of 10 pro

Stuccio said:
So, long story short, my old OnePlus 6 fell from my pocket and broke, in one unlucky accident. I've decided to "upgrade myself" and go for a more recent model. I'm used to flash custom ROMs and try many of them until I find one that suits my needs and that's pretty stable.
I wanted to buy the OnePlus 10 Pro but it's my understanding that you can "just" root it? I haven't followed the Oppo drama lately so I don't know if it comes from the fact that the phone has been released "recently" or they locked things similarly to Huawei.
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Personally the 10 Pro has been really great for me, but I don't ROM hop anymore. I'm satisfied with the feature set of OOS plus basic root stuff. What are the main features in custom ROMs that get you to not use OOS?

galaxys said:
I ditched my 10 Pro awhile ago, and I'm happily back to my 9 Pro!
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Serious question, why do you think the 9 Pro is better ( besides MSM)?

centifanto said:
Personally the 10 Pro has been really great for me, but I don't ROM hop anymore. I'm satisfied with the feature set of OOS plus basic root stuff. What are the main features in custom ROMs that get you to not use OOS?
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I don't know about about OOS13 but I remember LineageOS performing way better than OOS11 in battery and loading times.

Gotcha. Last time I ran LOS was way back in the Android 4-6 period. I have only ever run OOS since the 3T did everything I wanted. I've managed to squeeze out 9 hours SOT on my 10 Pro (mind you, I wasn't gaming or anything like that,just basic web browsing, YouTube and messaging), and everything is very quick for my tastes. YMMV of course

centifanto said:
Serious question, why do you think the 9 Pro is better ( besides MSM)?
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Lot's more XDA Development!