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UI stuttering caused by accessibility permissions

The problem
Hi, I've been experiencing significant interface stuttering whenever an application has been granted accessibility permissions.
Video of the problem
Here is a video demonstrating the issue, read below for technical information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFVKCx5zVmQ
Facts about the problem
Ok so here's what I know so far:
It doesn't matter which service you grant access to, it will lag the same. I've tried LMT, Swipe Navigation, LastPass, TalkBack, and a few more I can't even remember at the moment.
It doesn't matter what ROM or Kernel you are on. I've tried Euphoria with LK and Hydra, rooted stock with stock kernel and LK, and Benzo with whatever the default Benzo kernel is. Doesn't make a single difference.
It does not only affect Relay for Reddit comment collapsing. It also affect Google Newsstand's mini/big card transition, news source transitions, Google Now transitions, basically anywhere there is an animation in the OS I can notice the stuttering.
Anyone else experience this? Any ideas? It is driving me crazy.

I'm not experiencing that
I've used custom roms/kernels almost all of them in the development forum lol
I wonder if maybe it's a particular accessibility itself? I feel like since its needing to be authorized in accessibility that it might be conflicting with something else, who knows?
People usually try booting the phone into safe mode and seeing if maybes its a third party app?
Thats my 2 cents! Hopefully it helps

It has nothing to do with a specific accesibility from what I can feel, stuttering occurs regardless of the app.
I have full wiped several times to test and can't find a solution.
Does anyone else experience this or have any ideas?

Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?

ggmask said:
Can anybody duplicate this?
Should I RMA?
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adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.

simms22 said:
adjust your governor/scheduler. me, i like using ondemand/deadline.
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I've done this when using LK/Hydra, but I am not running stock kernel. None of the adjustments made any noticeable difference unfortunately

I really hate to bump this but the video only has 16 views and I'd love someone else to confirm or deny the same behavior when granting an app accessibility permissions.
If this is common behavior I won't RMA, but if no one else can recreate this I'm going to.
Oh, another thing I noticed: you don't have to test it in an app like Relay for Reddit, you can also do it in the Chrome browser on a site that has a lot of information. What I've noticed is that, when accessibility is granted to any app, visiting XDA forums becomes almost unusable. It takes FOREVER to scroll and when I can scroll it is extremely choppy. Disable the accessibility permission? Completely solves the problem.

You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.

Here is the Swipe Navigation developer saying it is definitely a thing in Lollipop with accessibility settings. (screenshot from Play Store comments on Swipe Navigation app). I wish someone could figure this out - I guess we have to wait for Google to do that?

I am using PieControl Pro and I do believe it makes the animations in the Play story stutter when I open a page and use the back button to go back to the app overview. The Play store was never completely smooth no matter what, but when I disable accessibility for PieControl Pro, it becomes a little better. So yeah, accessibility does seem to affect UI performance. I'm on stock Android 5.1 with Franco Kernel.

wbarnes4393 said:
You are NOT crazy. I have been searching, seeing if anyone else had this problem. I am using a completely stock Nexus 6 (not rooted), and because of the screen size I have been tinkering with apps to help with one handed use (like pie controls, handy soft keys, etc). They also require accessibility to be enabled. Whenever I install them, I notice (about once every 6-7 times) that when I open my app drawer on Nova launcher, it will half freeze, half stutter. Most of the time it's fine, but once every few times it happens. I haven't paid too much higher attention to whether jt causes stuttering in other apps, but it drives me nuts and so I uninstall the app and go back to stretching my thumb to use the stock nav keys. Wish this would get fixed. Kind of unacceptable for a Nexus - that kind of stuttering is why I don't like using Samsung devices.
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Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.

Im using swipe navigation and I'm noticing stutter as well. Wonder why this happens. Took me a while to figure it out.

Would you mind pointing me to the Google page where you reported this? I would like to star it as well, and follow their updates.

As a follow up, today I decided to tinker around and install pie again. Since the Nova app drawer animation is what I always notice stuttering first, I decided to just turn Nova animations off. Then, I went into Android settings, developer options, and reduced the three animation settings to 0.5x. I may just be seeing what I want to see, but the UI hasn't seemed to stutter with Pie enabled in accessibility (yet). Going to try this for a day or two.

I've gotten the same issues with Lastpass.
Lastpass even states on their site that it's a lollipop issue.
https://lastpass.com/support.php?cmd=showfaq&id=8166

ggmask said:
Thank you! I was losing my mind tryingbto figure this out so I opened a support ticket with Google play store and the person who handled my case was able to reproduce it and has made a note of it (whether this means there's an official bug report or not I don't know). He also said this issue cannot be used to RMA, since it wouldn't do anything anyway.
Unless someone can confirm that they DO NOT have this issue.
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Sorry if this counts as bringing up an old thread, although it's not THAT old
Anyway, I've come here just to corroborate all your findings and confirm that I am also experiencing this ugly bug. A few days ago I installed Greenify which, among other things, asked to enable Accessibility features for it. Thinking nothing of it I did as requested. Next day I start noticing some UI lagginess and choppiness, which was especially noticeable to me in Relay for Reddit since I use it a lot (too much for my own good in fact) and I distinctly remember it had very smooth scrolling between comments just a few days ago. In the mean time, I completely forget I've granted Greenify accessibility control so I went on a mission trying to fix this inexplainable, sudden UI choppiness, by trying to flash a different kernel, trying different governors, dirty flashing my ROM, trying all the other tweaks, and finally doing a factory reset and flashing the stock ROM all over again (luckly I did make a nandroid). Nothing helped. I was at my wits end when I tried searching the app's subreddit for anyone experiencing the same issue and found a comments saying accessibility features were to blame. I felt stupid for not researching it before. However, this bug is very insidious as it just creeps up on you, with no reason. I also don't know how can accessibility features affect UI smoothness this way.

Yes, hopefully will be fixed in M maybe? I haven't checked around to see if those who have installed M preview have checked to see if the bug has been fixed there. Fingers crossed.....

Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092

wbarnes4393 said:
Not fixed in M. Everyone should go star the issue so it gets fixed!
https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=2092
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Still isnt fixed ) But my lag rather appears when tapping on any app icon, then it highlights, then go lag, then opening animation starts.

Post this over on reddit and see if you can bring a bit more attention to the issue.

Pixel / Daydream / VR Apps

Hey everyone,
So I've been trying to "modernize" my phone, since I'm under the impression that I can get another 2-3 years out of it. So far I have:
-Running 7.1.1 stock rooted w/Franco kernel
-Hacked to include Pixel launcher (works great)
-Hacked to include Assistant (works great)
-Hacked to run Daydream (works great(ish)) -These tutorials are all available online and are pretty simple if you kinda know what you're doing
I bought a Daydream headset and have been playing with the apps. Some seem to work fine, and some won't run, some won't install. This seems like pretty fresh territory, so I haven't found much help online.
I know our phone supposedly doesn't meet the intended hardware specs (thermal characteristics, and GPU speed?), but it sure seems capable enough to me.
-Home screen and remote - works no problem.
-Playstore - works no problem.
-Netflix VR - works no problem.
-Arts & Culture - works no problem.
-Asteroids - This is pretty awesome. It's a demo of an animated episode (not the old game). It has 3D sound, which I wasn't expecting since the Netflix VR app didn't have it.
-Youtube VR - won't install (sideload). A little research, and it sounds like this app won't run on our phone's architecture. As far as I know, I can't force it to run. I'm very interested in getting this to work though.
-NextVR - Launches to blank screen.
-Hello Mars - works no problem. Lacking content it seems.
-JauntVR - works no problem.
-Littlestar - opens to non-side-by-side screen.
-InceptionVR - opens to non-side-by-side screen.
-Etc.. haven't tried very many yet.
For some of these, I wonder... I have my phone "posing" as a Pixel XL. I wonder if it would make a difference if I changed it to Pixel regular instead.
Anyhow, there must be others out there who are interested in exploring Daydream on our Nexus 6. Please share your experiences/expertise or point to relevant threads I may have missed!

Unfortunately I am in the same situation as you are, but I am just as interested in getting it resolved. The Daydream UI and the apps that are working actually work very well. What I found is the apps that are opening single screen are doing so because of our device info. I can go into the build.prop and edit the ro.product.device to marlin instead of shamu the app will open in a side by side screen. The only problem is that my phone reboots after running for a few minutes (even if I am not in daydream). I emailed the app developer of "AFFECTED:The Manor" and he said they will adjust the app requirements in their next update, but we can't expect everyone to be so helpful. We need to come up with a way to edit the build.prop info without causing rebooting. Keep me posted and I will do the same ...

Very cool, glad I'm not alone here.
I did notice that Netflix seemed to have picked out that my device was a Shamu, but luckily at least that app doesn't care.
FYI it looks like a bunch more apps just got added to the in-Daydream app-store. Going to try a few of those, and also trying to get google photos working.

Having trouble with Google Pictures in daydream. I get a message saying there is no daydream content for this app. I tried the same build.prop mod you mentioned, and it did not help with that app. I can confirm it did fix the others which didn't previously work. It threw off my kernel though, so I set it back to Shamu. I didn't experience reboots, but I had it set that way for about 10 minutes only.

Guys remember that there is a reason the nexus 6 didnt make the cut. One of the main reasons being that it wont be getting the vulcan drivers that daydream will need. By forcing it you could damage your device beyond repair. Its a high risk for something that will most likely die out over the next few years.

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Guys remember that there is a reason the nexus 6 didnt make the cut. One of the main reasons being that it wont be getting the vulcan drivers that daydream will need. By forcing it you could damage your device beyond repair. Its a high risk for something that will most likely die out over the next few years.
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Yes good point. I personally am prepared for the worst, but yeah, disclaimer to others...

I was able to get it to work in safe mode.. But after rebooting I was still logged in but it's like the touch screen is dead and when I move my phone the picture jitters

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I was able to get it to work in safe mode.. But after rebooting I was still logged in but it's like the touch screen is dead and when I move my phone the picture jitters
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Get what to work?

stev067 said:
Get what to work?
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The daydream app... Isn't that what this forum is about?

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The daydream app... Isn't that what this forum is about?
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We had just been talking about getting specific apps running, so I didn't know if you were referring to a certain app or just Daydream in general. I didn't have any trouble following the guide to get Daydream up and running. You sure you did it right?

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We had just been talking about getting specific apps running, so I didn't know if you were referring to a certain app or just Daydream in general. I didn't have any trouble following the guide to get Daydream up and running. You sure you did it right?
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I'll go back and check my steps.. Thanks

stev067 said:
Having trouble with Google Pictures in daydream. I get a message saying there is no daydream content for this app. I tried the same build.prop mod you mentioned, and it did not help with that app. I can confirm it did fix the others which didn't previously work. It threw off my kernel though, so I set it back to Shamu. I didn't experience reboots, but I had it set that way for about 10 minutes only.
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That is going to be the key to getting those apps working, it is pulling info from the build.prop to verify it should run in the dual screen mode. I just can't figure out how to make the edit and have my device run correctly. I noticed when I changed shamu to marlin even some of my apps updated (like camera) to the pixel camera, but it is supposed to run on 64 bit system so it crashed. I think the change will have to take place on the app side, which is unfortunate.

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That is going to be the key to getting those apps working, it is pulling info from the build.prop to verify it should run in the dual screen mode. I just can't figure out how to make the edit and have my device run correctly. I noticed when I changed shamu to marlin even some of my apps updated (like camera) to the pixel camera, but it is supposed to run on 64 bit system so it crashed. I think the change will have to take place on the app side, which is unfortunate.
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Check this article out: http://apcmag.com/how-to-fake-an-android-device.htm/
It's kinda old, but it sounds like there's more lines that may need to be changed besides [ro.product.device].

stev067 said:
Check this article out: http://apcmag.com/how-to-fake-an-android-device.htm/
It's kinda old, but it sounds like there's more lines that may need to be changed besides [ro.product.device].
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Yea, I had tried all combinations one at a time and all at once and my device would always reboot. I found during the trial and error that only the ro.product.device was what the app was reading, but could not stop the rebooting.

Google search results from widget are very laggy

Open Google search widget and type in Tom Hardy. The results will load multitude of cards at the top. Those are very laggy. My nexus 7 from 2012 is much smoother, and Samsung's Internet browser is completely smooth with the same cards. But Google search app is like 2 fps when those a cards are on the screen.
Any fix?
Thanks.

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Open Google search widget and type in Tom Hardy. The results will load multitude of cards at the top. Those are very laggy. My nexus 7 from 2012 is much smoother, and Samsung's Internet browser is completely smooth with the same cards. But Google search app is like 2 fps when those a cards are on the screen.
Any fix?
Thanks.
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My mother had this issue and it was like a build up of cards from previous searches. What I did is look for a setting that puts the results from a Google widget search into an external browser.
Settings>Google>Search>Accounts & Privacy>Open web pages in the Google App, (turn this off.)

Masteryates said:
My mother had this issue and it was like a build up of cards from previous searches. What I did is look for a setting that puts the results from a Google widget search into an external browser.
Settings>Google>Search>Accounts & Privacy>Open web pages in the Google App, (turn this off.)
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Thank you, sir. You gave such a perfect and precise explanation, that I have to give you props. The suggestion didn't do anything though, but it was easy to check. What amazes me is that you seemingly suggest that you have no such problem. My Pixel XL has zero problems, my Nexus 7 has almost no problems. My gf's Tab S2 has exact same problem. What is happening here?

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Thank you, sir. You gave such a perfect and precise explanation, that I have to give you props. The suggestion didn't do anything though, but it was easy to check. What amazes me is that you seemingly suggest that you have no such problem. My Pixel XL has zero problems, my Nexus 7 has almost no problems. My gf's Tab S2 has exact same problem. What is happening here?
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No problem Nabbed. :highfive:
I probably didn't understand your problem correctly. Are you able to describe it differently or include some screen shots?
For the record, I have no issues at all with my T715. It's ran perfectly for the last 1.5 years. :victory:

Masteryates said:
No problem Nabbed. :highfive:
I probably didn't understand your problem correctly. Are you able to describe it differently or include some screen shots?
For the record, I have no issues at all with my T715. It's ran perfectly for the last 1.5 years. :victory:
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I'll do you one better. Video of the problem - https://youtu.be/OF34FDtXfek .

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I'll do you one better. Video of the problem - https://youtu.be/OF34FDtXfek .
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Thanks for the video Nabbed.
I see what you mean with the lagginess of the scrolling.
As I'm at work, I don't have my Tab S2 connected so I tried the same Google search using the home screen widget as you did on my One Plus 3. It lagged when I first scrolled down, then was silky smooth going up and down.
Will take another look when I get home on the S2. Why don't you just conduct your searches in Chrome until a solution is found?

Masteryates said:
Thanks for the video Nabbed.
I see what you mean with the lagginess of the scrolling.
As I'm at work, I don't have my Tab S2 connected so I tried the same Google search using the home screen widget as you did on my One Plus 3. It lagged when I first scrolled down, then was silky smooth going up and down.
Will take another look when I get home on the S2. Why don't you just conduct your searches in Chrome until a solution is found?
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Chrome still lags, but not as badly. Internet browser by Samsung is buttery smooth. I wish this abomination was gone...

nabbed said:
Chrome still lags, but not as badly. Internet browser by Samsung is buttery smooth. I wish this abomination was gone...
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Yes its like the Google app uses a poor version of Chrome to display its results. Suggest you set your homepage as Google in the Samsung Browser and just search from there.
Personally, I use habit browser, (which has an unbelievable amount of settings.) Once configured, it flies through websites and only ever displays the PC version of pages.

Just tried it now at home on my T715 and it was as laggy as hell. Probably even worse than the YouTube video. :crying:

Android 10 for Oneplus 7 Pro Sucks

Hi All,
So I have been trying to switch to android 10 couple times (3 exact) but because of it's bugs/annoyances it is really impossible to have it as a daily driver. Here are couple that I've found:
- bottom chin when keyboard is enabled (like really, what the hell. I know that for some folks that option is great and all, but it is making the keyboard unusable for me. I often touch the spot where the space bar should be and because of that writing seems very uncomfortable...
- LAG WHEN COMING BACK TO HOMESCREEN FROM APP - this is the biggest one for me. That problem occurs when you are using a custom launcher (like Nova, Evie etc.). Every time when you are coming from app to the homescreen, there is slightly delay in animation (like icons need some time to load...). That for me is biggest issue. Why do I need to withstand the lag in the system, when I have the fastest android smartphone on the planet?! Yet still i haven't found an solution for that (besides turning the animation completely off....)
If you don't have any those (or similar) problems and for you this update is gods gift then please don't respond....
I'am really disappointed with this Update and it seems that Oneplus is not going fix/change anything at all with it because they have already started rolling out the updates for Oneplus 6...
Feel free to comment on that topic
Thanks
Paweł

Just so you know the keyboard space is on every phone with Android 10, it is part of Googles implementation of gestures. It allows the use of gestures while the keyboard is open without typing or typing without triggering gestures.

Have you thought of using the stock luncher?...

@Snowolf940
Well Mr. Snow wolf, "sucks" is a relative term but I found 10.0.0 too buggy for me so I moved back to 9.5.11 and waited for another update.
10.0.1 solved all of the issues that bothered me except that annoying space under the keyboard. That made it so difficult to type for me. I understand the frustration there.
I stumbled upon this awesome fix yesterday here at xda. -100 did it best for me. The -75 was not enough removal of space.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/themes/fix-adb-disable-black-bar-10-0-1-t3987731
I haven't noticed the animation lag on Nova (which I am using) you were speaking about so sorry I can't help with that. But I would genuinely be surprised if it wasn't ironed out in the next update which personally I would guess would be soon.
I hope this helps you. Hang in there man. There will be better days ahead.

I don't know exactly what the issue with the keyboard layout is, but my keyboard hasn't changed.
EnhancedIME - AOSP with swipe
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/enhancedime-aosp-latinime-enhancements-t3366639

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I don't know exactly what the issue with the keyboard layout is, but my keyboard hasn't changed.
EnhancedIME - AOSP with swipe
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/enhancedime-aosp-latinime-enhancements-t3366639
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It has been stated many times across many threads here at xda regarding the space between the keyboard and the bottom of the phone when using gestures (not a nav bar). When someone is not used to that space, users are hitting it accidentally instead of the spacebar creating many errors in typing. If you are using a navbar this does not apply. The keyboard you are using is not relevant either.

cervantesjc said:
Have you thought of using the stock luncher?...
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Why? I Have android Phone because of the modifications/customizations you can make...
My Evie launcher has options that stock launcher Just doesnt Have. Also the delay doesnt appear on android 9...
JDROIDS said:
@Snowolf940
Well Mr. Snow wolf, "sucks" is a relative term but I found 10.0.0 too buggy for me so I moved back to 9.5.11 and waited for another update.
10.0.1 solved all of the issues that bothered me except that annoying space under the keyboard. That made it so difficult to type for me. I understand the frustration there.
I stumbled upon this awesome fix yesterday here at xda. -100 did it best for me. The -75 was not enough removal of space.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/themes/fix-adb-disable-black-bar-10-0-1-t3987731
I haven't noticed the animation lag on Nova (which I am using) you were speaking about so sorry I can't help with that. But I would genuinely be surprised if it wasn't ironed out in the next update which personally I would guess would be soon.
I hope this helps you. Hang in there man. There will be better days ahead.
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I have heard that this option also cut the toast notifications which is bad
I am just really disappointed with this update. I have thought that the company like Oneplus just can't roll out so unpolished firmware.
Right now iam afraid that going back to 10 will be just waste of time....
+ I also recall that I was not able to turn off the Facebook messenger vibrations without completely turning them off...

Snowolf940 said:
Why? I Have android Phone because of the modifications/customizations you can make...
My Evie launcher has options that stock launcher Just doesnt Have. Also the delay doesnt appear on android 9...
I have heard that this option also cut the toast notifications which is bad
I am just really disappointed with this update. I have thought that the company like Oneplus just can't roll out so unpolished firmware.
Right now iam afraid that going back to 10 will be just waste of time....
+ I also recall that I was not able to turn off the Facebook messenger vibrations without completely turning them off...
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I have not had this issue with the toast notification. I also haven't had the animation issue either. There are users having no problems at all on 10 so maybe you need to investigate more.
My only issue was with the keyboard and that modification fixed it.
You have other companies literally breaking wifi and data with updates so if OnePlus adds a space under the keyboard which has a fix, I think most will think it's okay.
But I would at least try the keyboard fix instead of just complaining when others are giving solutions.
The Facebook thing I don't know because I don't use Facebook and that app is the worst app for a phone known to man.

I've noticed some apps crashing, but I'm rooted so it is what it is. Overall no major issues here

Android auto also fully broken.. it's a shame
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m4ssnet said:
Android auto also fully broken.. it's a shame
Inviato dal mio GM1913 utilizzando Tapatalk
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Nope. Tons of people report Android Auto works fine on 10

Arden144 said:
Nope. Tons of people report Android Auto works fine on 10
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Please do not disregard the problem only because for most people Android Auto works fine
Same thing with my issues with Android 10.
So after reinstalling it (4th time, full wipe every time ofc), I still have a delay when coming back to the homescreen from my Lanucher (it doesn't matter which 3rd party launcher I use). It's really pissing me off...
Once again, I do not understand comments like "for me everything works fine/ I can't see the problem". That's because either you are lucky one and Oneplus made a version of software especially for you (sarcasm on) or you are unable to see it... So please don't commit to this conversation if you don't have anything interesting to say. We all know that your version of Android 10 is pure perfect (please brag somewhere else)

Snowolf940 said:
Please do not disregard the problem only because for most people Android Auto works fine
Same thing with my issues with Android 10.
So after reinstalling it (4th time, full wipe every time ofc), I still have a delay when coming back to the homescreen from my Lanucher (it doesn't matter which 3rd party launcher I use). It's really pissing me off...
Once again, I do not understand comments like "for me everything works fine/ I can't see the problem". That's because either you are lucky one and Oneplus made a version of software especially for you (sarcasm on) or you are unable to see it... So please don't commit to this conversation if you don't have anything interesting to say. We all know that your version of Android 10 is pure perfect (please brag somewhere else)
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Please do not disregard all if you dont know how to use phone and android 10. My android 10 works just fine, zero problems! Have you even think all problems be caused by you. Stop spamming nosense and just buy iphone

mumuli said:
Please do not disregard all if you dont know how to use phone and android 10. My android 10 works just fine, zero problems! Have you even think all problems be caused by you. Stop spamming nosense and just buy iphone
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Haha! This is hilarious! :good:
I saw that this thread was bumped and I was like, "this dude is still complaining?" :laugh:
I'll report that I'm on ob5 and this is awesome. Android auto running well as is everything else. I guess I avoided the user error bug. I figure, if we have identical phones, and mine works great on the same software another is having issues with, it's either user error or maybe a bad phone and it needs to be replaced? Not sure.

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Haha! This is hilarious! :good:
I saw that this thread was bumped and I was like, "this dude is still complaining?" :laugh:
I'll report that I'm on ob5 and this is awesome. Android auto running well as is everything else. I guess I avoided the user error bug. I figure, if we have identical phones, and mine works great on the same software another is having issues with, it's either user error or maybe a bad phone and it needs to be replaced? Not sure.
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What launcher are you using?

Oh, there's also no delay going to the homescreen on a proper setup. If you want to use gestures on a custom launcher, it has to have quickstep support and you need to use quickswitch to set it as the recents provider

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Oh, there's also no delay going to the homescreen on a proper setup. If you want to use gestures on a custom launcher, it has to have quickstep support and you need to use quickswitch to set it as the recents provider
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What?

Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..

DJ_BARO said:
Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..
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Finally someone is on my side with this case. I have tried custom roms/latest betas but it doesn't change anything...
So the last option is to roll back to Good old android 9 ;(

DJ_BARO said:
Honestly, I am surprised that nobody else has this problem with the delay or "notices" it. Of course I am happy for you! :good:
But unfortunately I also have this problem and it sucks really!
I have had the problem with Lawnchair, but the Nova Launcher also has this problem. Installing QuickSwitch does not help, it says that the launcher is not compatible with it...
That alone makes me think about either going back to Android 9 or trying out a custom Rom. But the problem seems to be widespread on Android 10.
Actually, the Stock Launcher is great, but I don't have the possibility to adjust icon sizes and grid. The presets are not enough. And I really don't like the drawer with this strange semi-transparent background.
At the end, i really hoping so that one or the either probem(s) will be fixed. I'm soo upset because of this crap but i should not be able to be so on such an high priced smartphone really...
Maybe you are mostly on Open Beta 5/6 and that lag is actually fixed?!..
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I have started to notice the lag on launcher when unplugging the phone after using Android Auto.
What fixes it for me is to lock the screen and unlock it again a few times and then if will become responsive again.
This oddly (or not...) also coincides with some server side changes that Google pushed to Android Auto to enable the new features.
Adding here that the theme changes have just gone worse with 10.0.2 - theme follows the car, so if you use a dark theme and the car is in daytime, it will change the theme on the phone to bright when you exit Android Auto.
Also, the audio quality is pretty horrid and still not fixed, but I am experiencing with a workaround and will report when I have more concrete results

General Stock vs XiaomiEU smoothness experience.

Guys i recently jumped from stock Chinese to XiaomiEU. I noticed that the phone became laggy with animation.
This thread for those people who actually tried both choices (stock/XiaomiEU stable/beta)
Besides animation with micro lags on opening apps (a specially if they closed in recently menu) there is other weird stuff, example YouTube started to lags in scrolling. Google keyboard sometimes comes up late. Phone after restarting laggy first 2-3 min.
I switched back to full Chinese stock and im shocked how quick and smooth this phone is !
Please share your statistics if you switch from XiaomiEU back to stock.
In my opinion (with full respect to developer) stock debloted root it rom with adaway bringing you a Pixel smoothness... however I can't say similar about EU rom...
Regards

Yes I noticed it's not as smooth as well like not 120 fps all the time while navigating. Also noticed the YouTube scroll lag. If you turn on show fps in developer settings when you load up the YouTube app it drops to 60 fps only.

Jbdub17712 said:
Yes I noticed it's not as smooth as well like not 120 fps all the time while navigating. Also noticed the YouTube scroll lag. If you turn on show fps in developer settings when you load up the YouTube app it drops to 60 fps only.
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Exactly!!!!! Stock is soooo smooth and quicker too!

You jumped to stable or nightly releases of xiaomi.eu ?

veimus said:
You jumped to stable or nightly releases of xiaomi.eu ?
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I tried everything Stable and Beta, weekly... factory reset it many times.
Stock(debloted/rooted/adaway) 12.5.4 just destroying with speed and smoothest !

I am planing to move to xiaomi.eu as I use android auto most of the times. But the above comments lead me to think twice..
I might keep my CN rom..

yektao said:
I am planing to move to xiaomi.eu as I use android auto most of the times. But the above comments lead me to think twice..
I might keep my CN rom..
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Move it for experience and for fun. Comeback later and vote it.

I noted the same thing, but it's not that big of a difference. I also have a question if your main screen starts lagging when you wake up the rear screen?

avetny said:
Move it for experience and for fun. Comeback later and vote it.
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That's sounds like a big challenge if I manage, definitely I will vote..

kuba319 said:
I noted the same thing, but it's not that big of a difference. I also have a question if your main screen starts lagging when you wake up the rear screen?
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There is no lagg anywhere on stock Chinese.
But i know why your phone is lagging when u activating rear screen and phone sleeping.
Disable this.

avetny said:
There is no lagg anywhere on stock Chinese.
But i know why your phone is lagging when u activating rear screen and phone sleeping.
Disable this.
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Did you fix your lag disabling notifications on rear screen?

dhaern said:
Did you fix your lag disabling notifications on rear screen?
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I don't have that problem at all.
But my notification access is disabled.
Also make sure you updating your apps via GetApps

avetny said:
I don't have that problem at all.
But my notification access is disabled.
Also make sure you updating your apps via GetApps
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Oh I read above you had lag with animations on Xiaomi.eu ROM. Im now in waiting period until I unlock my bootloader but I will install Xiaomi.eu after unlock, do you know if GetApps is installed on Xiaomi.eu?

Definitely download getapps as your system apps won't update without it. The EU rom should be coming with it, it shouldn't be deleted it's imperative.

pafc66 said:
Definitely download getapps as your system apps won't update without it. The EU rom should be coming with it, it shouldn't be deleted it's imperative.
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I just finished installing but do not have getapps..time to Google it..

Yesterday, I manage to complete the task of intsalling xiaomi.eu ROM. At first it felt slow but looks like I was spoiled by 120hz on Chinese version. After changing back 120hz, it feels much better.
I will not vote yet as I am stil catching with my apps and awaiting first stable update to see the update process before making any decisions.
All in all, the main reason for this change was android auto for me. I tested and working which makes all this hassle worth for me. I will revert in due course about the smoothness...

Is There still a difference in speed and smoothness or has it leveled out by now ?