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Hi there. I have the UK varient which is not the same as the us version. I'm looking for info regarding root and custom roms. All info I can find points toward the us (James) varient.
Any info or links greatly appreciated
ok so update, found this thread but not sure if the information is correct, thoughts or experiences please
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e5/how-to/moto-e5-xt1920-15-pettyl-unlock-t3859586
mac_d4di said:
ok so update, found this thread but not sure if the information is correct, thoughts or experiences please
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e5/how-to/moto-e5-xt1920-15-pettyl-unlock-t3859586
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That's my thread and yes the information is correct.
If you are not sure yourself that the information I have posted is correct, then I suggest you stop thinking about rooting your E5 or flashing custom ROMs.
You have to remember no one has tested the rooting/flashing procedures on PETTYL.
Everything that's listed here on XDA is designed for James/Nora/Hanna devices so no one has tested anything on our devices as it's newer and not many have it.
All the GSIs (custom ROMs) are only listed as working on the James/Nora/Hanna devices, there is currently no support offered for PETTYL, although technically they should work.
The devs of those other devices and the resources for them claim everything should work on our E5 as its treble compatible, but unfortunately that's not quite correct.
If you are really not sure about anything, or don't know if information is correct, you will have problems.
Im not being mean.....I really don't want anyone else to have the problems I have had and really wouldn't advise anyone to go through the process as it's fraught with issues, bad explanations and lacking important information.
Some files are incorrect for our device and some listed procedures for the other devices do not work on our E5.
BTW-my device is an E5 play XT1920-15 PETTYL SIM unlocked purchased from Argos.
Here's a list of the issue I found, it might be different for someone else as two people are saying they successfully rooted their PETTYL, and I couldn't.......
1. I had no issues unlocking the bootloader.
2. There are two versions of TWRP posted on XDA for PETTYL, but neither worked for me.
I used the James version.
3. I could not root my device.
Magisk installed but I could not get v17.3 or v17.2 to flash.
V17.1 did flash but magisk manager showed device not rooted and magisk not installed.
4. Flashing any GSI (Oreo or Pie) causes problems to the system sounds, ringtones, notification tones and music which is totally distorted and very poor quality.
The camera has very poor quality as well.
5. Lineage OS 15.1 is the GO version, you also should flash lineage before flashing other GSIs as you can't flash most GSis over stock.
6. You can use the full Google apps on a couple of android 9 gsis which makes your device a normal android, not an android Go device, but I would recommend not to bother with Android 9.0 GSis for this device as they are very buggy and very slow, and they use three times more battery than android 8.1 Go.
Also, live wallpaper and notification access still don't work on android 9.
Just remember as well the US E5 is much more powerful than our E5, and I assume thats why android 9 runs so crap on our E5.
7. You have a very complicated process to get your Google account working on any GSI, if you do it wrong, you will not be able to use your Google account at all and will get spammed with never ending notification from Google of using an "uncertified device"
8. If you run into problems and decided to return to stock, you cannot download the "retail_GB" stock firmware (SIM unlocked) for PETTYL unless you pay for it....the EE and Tesco SIM locked firmware is free to download, but neither work on the SIM unlocked version if you use non EE or non Tesco SIM cards.
9. Someone has posted a twrp back up of rooted stick for PETTYL.
It did not boot on my device and just kept boot looping.
That could have been a twrp issue and nothing to do with the shared back up - I couldn't get back into a gsi or stock to test it.
My post is warning to other PETTYL users- with my own experience.
What you choose to do is up to you but I really would not bother tampering with it, leave it be.
Stock android Go 8.1 is way better than anything else that's currently available for PETTYL right now, every gsi I tried had an issue of some description that affected performance so badly they were practically unusable.
Even though I'm back on stock now I still have sound issues, and many graphic glitches that makes my screen flash and glitch out randomly.
I'm sorry it's such a long reply, I wanted to give you as much information as possible so you have some idea of what's involved for our device., And let's just hope the situation for our device will get better soon.
Thanks for your detailed reply, I only asked if this was correct as I was aware of the differences between models etc.
I wouldnt say im new to rooting cfw etc, I have been flashing phones since 2002 lol.
But I dont want to brick this device as its currently my only phone, so I will wait and see if the situation improves in the future.
Its not a bad phone as it is you get quite a lot of phone for £65 nowadays.
Oh and im using simlocked tesco model so free to download, I find it stupid that you have to pay for stock firmware its beyond belief
mac_d4di said:
Thanks for your detailed reply, I only asked if this was correct as I was aware of the differences between models etc.
I wouldnt say im new to rooting cfw etc, I have been flashing phones since 2002 lol.
But I dont want to brick this device as its currently my only phone, so I will wait and see if the situation improves in the future.
Its not a bad phone as it is you get quite a lot of phone for £65 nowadays.
Oh and im using simlocked tesco model so free to download, I find it stupid that you have to pay for stock firmware its beyond belief
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Just like you, I've been rooting and flashing phones since like forever, and this device is the first I've ever had issues with.
It's entirety possible that as I'm a "noob" to flashing system images and fastboot flashing as apposed to flashing "ROMs" I may have messed up the procedures or made mistakes.
But not to be outdone, I have just before typing this reply tried again to root my E5 and flash a GSI, and again the process failed for me.
I could not boot into lineage OS 15.1 due to a "decryption error" and also couldn't get twrp to flash anything.
I've read now my issues are down to the DM Verity kernel which seems to be causing a lot of confusion amongst users and It now seems the process to remove forced encryption is what's causing all my issues.
I don't understand the process if I'm honest (it's an age thing lol) and worse, there is a lot of conflicting information, as a few people are saying the DM Verity process isn't necessary!!!
So unfortunately I've given up completely for now and stand by my original advice.
It's best to leave this particular device well alone until we have a proper procedure and tutorial in place for our own devices rather than trying to follow procedures for the US version.
I'm jealous though you only paid £65, as I paid £79.99, but I still think this Moto E is better than the Nokia 3 it replaced.
If any one can send me any issues they have with pettyl xt1920-15 rooting/twrp/etc I will try to test everything I can and see what works don't expect anything till January cause got college till the 23 and no time now
plscotland said:
If any one can send me any issues they have with pettyl xt1920-15 rooting/twrp/etc I will try to test everything I can and see what works don't expect anything till January cause got college till the 23 and no time now
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That's very generous of you.
Like you, I don't get much time (due to work) but I have two weeks off from 21/12 and can supply as much information as you want.
I would like root if it's possible.
If some can check this twrp in fast boot by booting it and tell me dose it work on thier phone i be thankfull https://github.com/TwrpBuilderTests...s/tag/TWRP-3.2.3-TwrpBuilder-2018-10-28_04-33
plscotland said:
If some can check this twrp in fast boot by booting it and tell me dose it work on thier phone i be thankfull https://github.com/TwrpBuilderTests...s/tag/TWRP-3.2.3-TwrpBuilder-2018-10-28_04-33
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I have a "working" 3.2.3 version for PETTYL but I'm not sure it's the version you linked
The one I have "works" in that it boots to TWRP fine from fastboot but obviously it doesn't flash.
I can't flash GSIs through that version, where they do flash no problems through fastboot......
Finally, I can flash magisk through that as even though magisk flashes successfully, magisk manager shows magisk is not installed and asks to flash it again.
@plscotland
TWRP - won't flash to recovery partition.
Cannot mount vendor to flash Fstab
Magisk flashes but magisk manager shows not installed.
I tried the twrp I sent you and the James version.
Lineage - I can successfully flash and boot lineage over stock (Phhusson version) but I have issues with "device not certified by Google" and get spammed by constant notification from Google
Cannot use for daily driver due to no nav bar orfind any settings to enable nav bar.
Descendants 1.0.5 - I have successfully flashed and booted this "rom" and used it but the sound from system ringtones and notification tones is awful and distorted
Lots of graphical glitches and system UI has stopped errors
Pixel experience - cannot flash - error whilst flashing that system IMG is bigger than target.
If I wipe data, it just bootloops and won't go past splash screen.
Resurrection remix - cannot boot
Bootleggers 3.0 - cannot boot
Hope some of this information helps you.
XT1920 - 15 retail GB firmware (SIM unlocked) stock android 8.1 go currently
bubba1601 said:
@plscotland
TWRP - won't flash to recovery partition.
Cannot mount vendor to flash Fstab
Magisk flashes but magisk manager shows not installed.
I tried the twrp I sent you and the James version.
Lineage - I can successfully flash and boot lineage over stock (Phhusson version) but I have issues with "device not certified by Google" and get spammed by constant notification from Google
Cannot use for daily driver due to no nav bar orfind any settings to enable nav bar.
Descendants 1.0.5 - I have successfully flashed and booted this "rom" and used it but the sound from system ringtones and notification tones is awful and distorted
Lots of graphical glitches and system UI has stopped errors
Pixel experience - cannot flash - error whilst flashing that system IMG is bigger than target.
If I wipe data, it just bootloops and won't go past splash screen.
Resurrection remix - cannot boot
Bootleggers 3.0 - cannot boot
Hope some of this information helps you.
XT1920 - 15 retail GB firmware (SIM unlocked) stock android 8.1 go currently
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Thanks I check and send u how to boot resurrection remix later cause there are extra steps for it to work and fstab also has to be done in another way once IM off work I do a guide for it /Info helped a lot
plscotland said:
Thanks I check and send u how to boot resurrection remix later cause there are extra steps for it to work and fstab also has to be done in another way once IM off work I do a guide for it /Info helped a lot
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Great, thanks
Qestion do u just want working magisek root on pettyl ?
There 2 ways
One download magisek manager
Get a twrp buckup of your boot image
Go to magisek manager choose patch boot image and choose your twrp buckup boot image (turn off compression of buckup when taking it ) after it finishes go find the patched boot image it should be in downloads or magisek folder can't remember then go to twrp and flash the patched boot image
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Second way is to add the fstab or whater its called skip the adb mount part and only do the adb push part (look in tread for exact) https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e5/development/recovery-twrp-moto-e-5-play-james-t3796323 then flash the magisek 18.0 tell me did it work after. here the twrp that should work for every ones pettyl [ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VsZRGkBujHay02a1M14eJM87H_RHFE9J/view?usp=drivesdk ] !Im not responsible if u brick your phone
!!try to boot twrp before u flash do fastboot boot (twrp image just drag the file to cmd to avoid path erors )
plscotland said:
Qestion do u just want working magisek root on pettyl ?
There 2 ways
One download magisek manager
Get a twrp buckup of your boot image
Go to magisek manager choose patch boot image and choose your twrp buckup boot image (turn off compression of buckup when taking it ) after it finishes go find the patched boot image it should be in downloads or magisek folder can't remember then go to twrp and flash the patched boot image
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Second way is to add the fstab or whater its called skip the adb mount part and only do the adb push part (look in tread for exact) https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-e5/development/recovery-twrp-moto-e-5-play-james-t3796323 then flash the magisek 18.0 tell me did it work after. here the twrp that should work for every ones pettyl [ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VsZRGkBujHay02a1M14eJM87H_RHFE9J/view?usp=drivesdk ] !Im not responsible if u brick your phone
!!try to boot twrp before u flash do fastboot boot (twrp image just drag the file to cmd to avoid path erors )
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Yeah, Ive been skipping the mount vendor and pushing Fstab via ADB whilst in twrp.
I'll give this twrp a whirl later this evening when my kids laptop is available
I've bricked my E5 and cannot get past "decryption unsuccessful."
Stock/los15/any other gsi I tried.
Reflashed stick but getting errors flashing gpt.partition.
Everything else then shows errors after each command.
Twrp- i followed your 1st step with a magisk altered boot image.
Tried second step and that failed.
I had to combine both steps into one and twrp then booted and flashed successfully to the recovery partition.
Adb pushed fstab before flashing twrp to recovery but once rebooted to stock I got "decryption unsuccessful" error and got into a bootloop.
Reflashed stock then los15.1 but same again.
Reflashed stock but gpt partition and system sparsechunk.2, 3 and 4 give errors.
Cannot flash stock or gsi currently or reboot to recovery, just keeps going back to fastboot.
bubba1601 said:
I've bricked my E5 and cannot get past "decryption unsuccessful."
Stock/los15/any other gsi I tried.
Reflashed stick but getting errors flashing gpt.partition.
Everything else then shows errors after each command.
Twrp- i followed your 1st step with a magisk altered boot image.
Tried second step and that failed.
I had to combine both steps into one and twrp then booted and flashed successfully to the recovery partition.
Adb pushed fstab before flashing twrp to recovery but once rebooted to stock I got "decryption unsuccessful" error and got into a bootloop.
Reflashed stock then los15.1 but same again.
Reflashed stock but gpt partition and system sparsechunk.2, 3 and 4 give errors.
Cannot flash stock or gsi currently or reboot to recovery, just keeps going back to fastboot.
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in fastboot enter (use cmd powershell gives erorrs) fastboot -w
And then try rebooting it can take a while and tell me did it fix the problem
Recuperación TWRP 3.3.1-0-Pettyl
Hola buen día soy de Guadalajara México
A mí sí me funcionó está recuperación para rotear con magisk e instalar un mood de píxel.
La instalación de TWRP3.3.1-0-PETTYL Lo hice gracias a la aplicación Root essentials en el apartado flasher flasheando la imagen de la recuperación y ya dentro de la recuperación hice una copia de seguridad e instale magisk
Mi dispositivo es el Moto e5 play go pettyl XT1920-18
Heeeeeelp
(First Sorry for my bad english I'm a Brazilian boy with 17 years old only lmfao)Guys, I have only this little piece of s**** as my phone
#1 and this is not useable, it stop The apps constantely and freezes The system on simple apps (like play music and YouTube)... So I want to leave this cellphone in The trash can and walk away, but I cant make this because i have only this "bombphone"... Anywere can make an downgrade to Android 6.1 or 7.1 to this phone? Seriously I cant live with this phone in this situation. thanks and good night from Brazil
João klebão (supahjohn64) said:
(First Sorry for my bad english I'm a Brazilian boy with 17 years old only lmfao)Guys, I have only this little piece of s**** as my phone
#1 and this is not useable, it stop The apps constantely and freezes The system on simple apps (like play music and YouTube)... So I want to leave this cellphone in The trash can and walk away, but I cant make this because i have only this "bombphone"... Anywere can make an downgrade to Android 6.1 or 7.1 to this phone? Seriously I cant live with this phone in this situation. thanks and good night from Brazil
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Unfortunately you can't downgrade android versions to 6 or 7, there's no system image / ROM on a lower android version for that device - but what you can do it's flash another GSi (ROM) to give you some usage back.
I also had the the XT1920 pettyl and android go is just awful, so I flashed several different roms to try.
The ones I got to work are
PHHussons lineage 15 (android Oreo)
ASOP 9 (android pie)
Pixel experience (pie)
Out of those lineage was the most stable.
You must remember pettyl only has 1gb ram, and does struggle with android 9 pie - but it does work without too many issues.
You got to learn a whole new process of unlocking the bootloader, flashing a custom recovery, disabling forced encryption and flashing a new ROM.
There are plenty of posts about roms for the E5 play in the threads here, I suggest you take a long read and don't try anything until you feel confident enough to begin because the process to flash roms on pettyl isn't very easy and is quite complex and complicated for a new inexperienced user.
It's quite easy to try that and completely mess up your device so it's unusable.
So, you MUST proceed with extreme caution, don't rush into anything without reading everything ten times, having a coffee and then reading it again another ten times.
Many users have tried to rush this process and then come here crying their phones don't work anymore - this happens because they've tried to rush the process, missed out steps and not read instructions properly........
Not being mean, but it happens all the time.
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If you don't feel confident enough to flash a ROM (and no one will blame you if you don't) unfortunately all you can do is change the way you use your device.
I never noticed any music or you tube video freezing on my pettyl but how I used my device and how you use yours are probably very different.
You can't put lots of apps on android go devices, it doesn't like lots of apps.
You can disable most of the system / Google apps like playstore, Google play music and YouTube and install open source alternatives.
(For instance one plus music, you tube vanced and aurora store to name just three - just Google "disable system apps" or "replace Google apps")
I also tried a couple of launchers, and Librechair go edition or the android Go customised pixel launcher does make quite a significant difference to performance, depending on how much system stuff you disable and how many replacement apps you install.
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I don't have my pettyl any longer so unfortunately that's the only help and advice I can offer you at this time.
Sorry.
bubba1601 said:
Unfortunately you can't downgrade android versions to 6 or 7, there's no system image / ROM on a lower android version for that device - but what you can do it's flash another GSi (ROM) to give you some usage back.
I also had the the XT1920 pettyl and android go is just awful, so I flashed several different roms to try.
The ones I got to work are
PHHussons lineage 15 (android Oreo)
ASOP 9 (android pie)
Pixel experience (pie)
Out of those lineage was the most stable.
You must remember pettyl only has 1gb ram, and does struggle with android 9 pie - but it does work without too many issues.
You got to learn a whole new process of unlocking the bootloader, flashing a custom recovery, disabling forced encryption and flashing a new ROM.
There are plenty of posts about roms for the E5 play in the threads here, I suggest you take a long read and don't try anything until you feel confident enough to begin because the process to flash roms on pettyl isn't very easy and is quite complex and complicated for a new inexperienced user.
It's quite easy to try that and completely mess up your device so it's unusable.
So, you MUST proceed with extreme caution, don't rush into anything without reading everything ten times, having a coffee and then reading it again another ten times.
Many users have tried to rush this process and then come here crying their phones don't work anymore - this happens because they've tried to rush the process, missed out steps and not read instructions properly........
Not being mean, but it happens all the time.
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If you don't feel confident enough to flash a ROM (and no one will blame you if you don't) unfortunately all you can do is change the way you use your device.
I never noticed any music or you tube video freezing on my pettyl but how I used my device and how you use yours are probably very different.
You can't put lots of apps on android go devices, it doesn't like lots of apps.
You can disable most of the system / Google apps like playstore, Google play music and YouTube and install open source alternatives.
(For instance one plus music, you tube vanced and aurora store to name just three - just Google "disable system apps" or "replace Google apps")
I also tried a couple of launchers, and Librechair go edition or the android Go customised pixel launcher does make quite a significant difference to performance, depending on how much system stuff you disable and how many replacement apps you install.
Edit
I don't have my pettyl any longer so unfortunately that's the only help and advice I can offer you at this time.
Sorry.
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thanks for the tips friend, i flashed some gases from android 9.0 and noticed that 90% of the performance improved which allowed me to played a little free fire lmfao so that unfortunately out of nowhere i faced some crashes and received the message from the user interface you are not responding, right now I am downloading the rom ressurrection remix oreo to see if it will work ... do you happen to know how to build a modified kernel? I have plans to make one for my cell phone but I don't know where to start. obrigado pelas dicas!!!! boa noite do brasil:good:
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bubba1601 said:
Unfortunately you can't downgrade android versions to 6 or 7, there's no system image / ROM on a lower android version for that device - but what you can do it's flash another GSi (ROM) to give you some usage back.
I also had the the XT1920 pettyl and android go is just awful, so I flashed several different roms to try.
The ones I got to work are
PHHussons lineage 15 (android Oreo)
ASOP 9 (android pie)
Pixel experience (pie)
Out of those lineage was the most stable.
You must remember pettyl only has 1gb ram, and does struggle with android 9 pie - but it does work without too many issues.
You got to learn a whole new process of unlocking the bootloader, flashing a custom recovery, disabling forced encryption and flashing a new ROM.
There are plenty of posts about roms for the E5 play in the threads here, I suggest you take a long read and don't try anything until you feel confident enough to begin because the process to flash roms on pettyl isn't very easy and is quite complex and complicated for a new inexperienced user.
It's quite easy to try that and completely mess up your device so it's unusable.
So, you MUST proceed with extreme caution, don't rush into anything without reading everything ten times, having a coffee and then reading it again another ten times.
Many users have tried to rush this process and then come here crying their phones don't work anymore - this happens because they've tried to rush the process, missed out steps and not read instructions properly........
Not being mean, but it happens all the time.
Edit
If you don't feel confident enough to flash a ROM (and no one will blame you if you don't) unfortunately all you can do is change the way you use your device.
I never noticed any music or you tube video freezing on my pettyl but how I used my device and how you use yours are probably very different.
You can't put lots of apps on android go devices, it doesn't like lots of apps.
You can disable most of the system / Google apps like playstore, Google play music and YouTube and install open source alternatives.
(For instance one plus music, you tube vanced and aurora store to name just three - just Google "disable system apps" or "replace Google apps")
I also tried a couple of launchers, and Librechair go edition or the android Go customised pixel launcher does make quite a significant difference to performance, depending on how much system stuff you disable and how many replacement apps you install.
Edit
I don't have my pettyl any longer so unfortunately that's the only help and advice I can offer you at this time.
Sorry.
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thanks for the tips friend,
I already work in some way with custom roms since 2013 when I had my lg l1 2 lmfao... i flashed some gases from android 9.0 and noticed that 90% of the performance improved which allowed me to played a little free fire lmfao so that unfortunately out of nowhere i faced some crashes and received the message from the user interface you are not responding, right now I am downloading the rom ressurrection remix oreo to see if it will work ... do you happen to know how to build a modified kernel? I have plans to make one for my cell phone but I don't know where to start. obrigado pelas dicas!!!! boa noite do brasil
Hi guys, I have an SM-N960F dual sim exynos Note 9 and i have recently discovered this whole other element of ROM flashing known as project treble ROMs. I tried to flash a few different ones and i could only get one to work and the rest all just either bootlooped or stayed on the initial splashscreen. I was wondering if anybody could shed some light on them a bit for me and perhaps knew exactly the best way to flash them, and what firmware is best to start on beforehand etc? I found the whole thing EXTREMELY confusing especially with venfor images and kernel images etc...
Thank you for any input/help!
We can't really use the term Project Treble when talking about Samsung phones. Technically it is implemented, but Samsung being Samsung, it's quite a non-standard implementation and not really compatible with anything else.
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We can't really use the term Project Treble when talking about Samsung phones. Technically it is implemented, but Samsung being Samsung, it's quite a non-standard implementation and not really compatible with anything else.
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Ive flashed a few of them onto my phone but it seems to be a bit of hit and miss as to whether they boot up or not. The ones that do have been good in terms of the size and speed etc, I even flashed a generic copy of OneUI which worked well.
I am on Pie base using the Dr.Ketan rom, so I tried a few GSIs which are supposed to be compatible with Pie base. I took them from here.
The way I flash them is:
1. Factory reset from TWRP
2. Flash the GSI as system image
3. Flash stock kernel otherwise you will be stuck on boot logo or you will get into bootloop. To flash the stock kernel I just use Dr.Ketan's rom, because the UI upon flashing allows you to choose and flash stock kernel and skip everything else.
(They mention that we should flash Permissiver also, but it gives error so I can't flash it)
So those GSIs boot up, but they are barely usable. The "System is finishing update" and "System setup will start soon" are stuck for me and never finish. Also for example in the PixelExperience9 from this collection I was not even able to add my Google account because of the system auto-closing almost all system apps that I try to open.
It might be that these things should be done in a different way, but this is my experience for now. So..... back to Dr.Ketan ROM. I was really hoping to get the MIUI GSI as daily, but it seems impossible to me.
EDIT: Lol I realised we are the same people talking on the other thread also, so you gave me the link to the treble collection.
The question probably sounds stupid but after almost a year of just forgetting about using root or unlocking bootlader i forgot many things.
I remember i used to have a mi 9 with encryption on and everytime i open twrp you will need to decrypt the data.
Now with the MI 9T Pro i had to format data in order to boot into Evolution X ROM that of course left me with a decrypted phone and i dont really like it in case my phone gets stole or something.
Do you guys know if i can use the option inside teh ROM to encrypt and what else i wuld need to do?
Thanks in advance to whoever takes the time to respond
PriPhaze said:
The question probably sounds stupid but after almost a year of just forgetting about using root or unlocking bootlader i forgot many things.
I remember i used to have a mi 9 with encryption on and everytime i open twrp you will need to decrypt the data.
Now with the MI 9T Pro i had to format data in order to boot into Evolution X ROM that of course left me with a decrypted phone and i dont really like it in case my phone gets stole or something.
Do you guys know if i can use the option inside teh ROM to encrypt and what else i wuld need to do?
Thanks in advance to whoever takes the time to respond
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If all you did was format data, then encryption is still enabled. As soon as you setup lock-screen security, i.e. PIN, password, pattern, etc., for the first time your phone will automatically be encrypted.
Robbo.5000 said:
If all you did was format data, then encryption is still enabled. As soon as you setup lock-screen security, i.e. PIN, password, pattern, etc., for the first time your phone will automatically be encrypted.
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No I couldn't boot until I flashed the DM verity.
So the encryption is now gone, but do you know if I can encrypt and then flash DM verity again with the force encryption on?.
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No I couldn't boot until I flashed the DM verity.
So the encryption is now gone, but do you know if I can encrypt and then glad DM verity again with the force encryption on?.
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Ordinarily you shouldn't need to flash dm-verity. And as far as I'm aware, there is still no need to.
Normally it's just a case of formatting data to temporarily remove encryption, if flashing over MIUI.
As to your specific question, I couldn't say, as I've never needed to flash a dm-verity, disable force encrypt, or vbmeta file/script.
Personally, I would flash the latest fastboot MIUI ROM for the phone, then reinstall EvoX.
Before installing the ROM, in TWRP do the factory reset and then format data (There is no need to wipe anything else). Then reboot into TWRP to ensure the newly formatted data partition is properly mounted and flash as normal.
This has worked for me every time.
Yeah, some roms aren't booting without dfe.
to remove decrypt you can just wipe vendor and flash it again. you'll get encrypted. (however, some users confirm it puts them back into recovery, and they needed to reflash vendor+dfe for them.) Currently investigating if this is a RIN or RCN problem or for every device.
alternatively. If you are scared about having your device stolen. May I suggest you stay decrypted. Use ofox. and under ofox settings add a recovery password?
In the event you get stolen, they won't be able to access your recovery.
also, I'm looking for someone to test if wiping the data partition and not flashing dfe (after a rom has booted for the first time) and rebooting causes encyrption. (as you desired.) If you're willing to test. Try the above 3 methods?
Sandeeep Kiran said:
Yeah, some roms aren't booting without dfe.
to remove decrypt you can just wipe vendor and flash it again. you'll get encrypted. (however, some users confirm it puts them back into recovery, and they needed to reflash vendor+dfe for them.) Currently investigating if this is a RIN or RCN problem or for every device.
alternatively. If you are scared about having your device stolen. May I suggest you stay decrypted. Use ofox. and under ofox settings add a recovery password?
In the event you get stolen, they won't be able to access your recovery.
also, I'm looking for someone to test if wiping the data partition and not flashing dfe (after a rom has booted for the first time) and rebooting causes encyrption. (as you desired.) If you're willing to test. Try the above 3 methods?
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BS. There is zero 'need' to flash dfe scripts. People are not formatting data when they need to, then when they cannot boot into a newly flashed ROM, they search and find solutions telling them to format data and flash dfe scripts. The thing is, people do not realise that it is the formatting data that fixes the problem, and they believe it is the dfe patch that is the fix. In all these cases formatting data alone would have been enough to fix the problem.
Also Orange Fox is only preferential if you stay with MIUI, as it's extra features are all about working with MIUI. If you are going with an AOSP ROM, stick with mauronofrio's latest TWRP, it is by far the best recovery for this phone.
As far as your 'test' is concerned, twice I have had bootloops after flashing a ROM, that have been fixed by formatting data alone.
The first time was when I first flashed an AOSP based ROM over MIUI before knowing that formatting data was required in this scenario. The second time was flashing AOSiP over LOS, when I still thought that going from one AOSP ROM to another never needed to format data when flashing.
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BS. There is zero 'need' to flash dfe scripts. People are not formatting data when they need to, then when they cannot boot into a newly flashed ROM, they search and find solutions telling them to format data and flash dfe scripts. The thing is, people do not realise that it is the formatting data that fixes the problem, and they believe it is the dfe patch that is the fix. In all these cases formatting data alone would have been enough to fix the problem.
Also Orange Fox is only preferential if you stay with MIUI, as it's extra features are all about working with MIUI. If you are going with an AOSP ROM, stick with mauronofrio's latest TWRP, it is by far the best recovery for this phone.
As far as your 'test' is concerned, twice I have had bootloops after flashing a ROM, that have been fixed by formatting data alone.
The first time was when I first flashed an AOSP based ROM over MIUI before knowing that formatting data was required in this scenario. The second time was flashing AOSiP over LOS, when I still thought that going from one AOSP ROM to another never needed to format data when flashing.
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We've had numerous cases for specific devices not booting without dfe despite formatting for some roms. I believe they are aosp roms that face this. Some when using oss, I vaguely remember. or when moving from LOS fod to mi9 fod or which flashing a different kernel.
(Do note. There are over 50+ roms for our device. 6 variants of the phone. 7 vendors (and separate modified vendors). 2 kinds of fod implementations. and about 95% of the cases arent asked on xda. 25% of the roms aren't posted either. None of the experimental builds are provided on xda.
There are tons of combos users use.)
I have not seen you on telegram. Only on xda. Who are you btw?
twrp is great. Ofox has a better ui and more features. Also, mauronofrio doesn't own a k20p btw. Just FYI. But he has the experience to still update twrp.
updated twrp is still not official, and gives error 7 for some raphaelin users who haven't updated updater-script.
recoveries are subjective. I mean, we have like 6 different recoveries now so.
Sandeeep Kiran said:
We've had numerous cases for specific devices not booting without dfe despite formatting for some roms. I believe they are aosp roms that face this. Some when using oss, I vaguely remember. or when moving from LOS fod to mi9 fod or which flashing a different kernel.
(Do note. There are over 50+ roms for our device. 6 variants of the phone. 7 vendors (and separate modified vendors). 2 kinds of fod implementations. and about 95% of the cases arent asked on xda. 25% of the roms aren't posted either. None of the experimental builds are provided on xda.
There are tons of combos users use.)
I have not seen you on telegram. Only on xda. Who are you btw?
twrp is great. Ofox has a better ui and more features. Also, mauronofrio doesn't own a k20p btw. Just FYI. But he has the experience to still update twrp.
updated twrp is still not official, and gives error 7 for some raphaelin users who haven't updated updater-script.
recoveries are subjective. I mean, we have like 6 different recoveries now so.
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Numerous cases? Who's we? What roms on what devices need dfe then? Only seen 2 roms ask for dfe, everything else it's as easy as 'going to and from miui, format data and reboot recovery' works every single time.
Sandeeep Kiran said:
We've had numerous cases for specific devices not booting without dfe despite formatting for some roms. I believe they are aosp roms that face this. Some when using oss, I vaguely remember. or when moving from LOS fod to mi9 fod or which flashing a different kernel.
(Do note. There are over 50+ roms for our device. 6 variants of the phone. 7 vendors (and separate modified vendors). 2 kinds of fod implementations. and about 95% of the cases arent asked on xda. 25% of the roms aren't posted either. None of the experimental builds are provided on xda.
There are tons of combos users use.)
I have not seen you on telegram. Only on xda. Who are you btw?
twrp is great. Ofox has a better ui and more features. Also, mauronofrio doesn't own a k20p btw. Just FYI. But he has the experience to still update twrp.
updated twrp is still not official, and gives error 7 for some raphaelin users who haven't updated updater-script.
recoveries are subjective. I mean, we have like 6 different recoveries now so.
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Try this next time you see somebody saying they have tried may things and always get bootloops when trying to flash an AOSP ROM and you want to advise them to flash dfe.
Instead tell them to flash the latest MIUI fastboot ROM for their device, then install TWRP, in TWRP do a factory reset followed by format data, then reboot into TWRP and flash the ROM.
I bet they will come back and tell you it worked.
Again there should be zero need to flash dfe scripts.
If there are any AOSP ROMs out there that genuinely won't boot without flashing dfe (and here I'm talking about all users of such ROM), then the dev had done something stupid and everyone should seriously avoid the ROM.
At least half of the 50+ ROMs are no longer actively maintained.
The vast majority of Orange Fox extra features are specific to MIUI and so are redundant for AOSP ROMs. Mauronifrio's latest TWRP is the most stable for this phone, so if you're going with AOSP ROMs then the extra stability makes most sense.
I've been aware that mauronifrio does not own this phone ever since his initial build. I was also aware back then that he is also an official TWRP maintainer for other devices and so would mostly likely become the maintainer of the official version for this phone, which has now happened. If you go to the official TWRP site and download for this phone, it is by mauronifrio. You can also download the official version from the OP of his TWRP thread.
I would suggest that in most cases, people getting error 7 issues are not on the latest mauronofrio TWRP build.
Are you aware that all these different recoveries are just TWRP with a fancy dress. This is the great thing about TWRP. It was designed to be extensible, to allow others to build on it, in terms of functionality and design. So really there is only TWRP, just many different flavours.
Hello everyone, try to install several custom roms, there is no tutorial that explains how the rom and twrp are installed. There are many tutorials and they all contradict, some say do this, others say do the other, but all fail.
Twrp boot, flash rom, install custom rom on SLOT A, install TWRP on slot B.
PROVEN ROMS:
PixelExperience:
Very low call volume, impossible to fix.
LineageOS:
Does not start play store, does not allow login to accounts, does not allow to install gapps.
- CURRENT ROM--
Evolution X:
Does not start play store, does not allow login to accounts.
I have been installing customs roms for years and this device is costing me my life. HELP
The most users get in trouble with A/B devices because they don't know exactly the differences between A-only and A/B partitions.
You don't know how to install TWRP? Why? On twrp.me you can find a detailed instruction for every single model.
A custom ROM is always a .zip file and you can flash a .zip file via TWRP. If you flash a ROM while slot _a is set as active you will install the ROM on slot _b. That's all. That is the meaning of semless updates.
Every new ROM must contain a own boot.img. A new boot.img will delete TWRP and Magisk. TWRP is a recovery and A/B devices don't have own partition for recovery. The recovery is merged in the boot partition.
Also Magisk uses the boot.img to patch the ramdisk. Flashing a new boot.img means you override the patched ramdisk with a new own. As a result you need a new Magisk installation.
my recommendation is starting from scratch with a clean stock 10 install then trying again...
lineage wiki probably has the best install instructions https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/lake/install but also check its forum thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-plus/development/rom-lineageos-17-1-t4076569 for other recommendations . if you want evolution X read the instructions in its thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/g7-plus/development/rom-evolution-x-4-1-69-moto-g7-plus-t4081731 as well but there pretty much the same.... you've probably went threw those threads already based upon you saying you have tried 3 diff roms already, but try again from a clean install of stock 10 (IF you want to run a 10 rom). i know it's not really a "clean/easy/simple" solution/tutorial, but with this device there is some trial and error for getting a half assed working install. however MAKE SURE you are on a stock 10 rom when installing a 10 rom, pixel experience is a 9 rom and that could be part of your problem. moving from android 10 stock, to a 9 rom, then back to a 10 rom will lead to issues. or a 9 rom, to a 10 rom, without moving to stock 10 in between will lead to problems.
as this isnt nearly a widely adopted device, custom rom development and support isnt even close to other devices, so expect bugs. i've always ran cfw's on all my devices ever since the htc g1/dream days, this is my first device i've stuck with stock due to the lack of rom development, lack of widespread use and people actually wanting to use cfw and users to bug report, and stock being more stable... but your mileage may vary. also no disrespect meant towards the hard working dev's who do work on this device, keep it up.
Thank you very much, I feel lucky that you have responded so quickly, sometimes my messages I post in this forum are never answered. Right now I am with revolution X:
--- It has TWRP perfectly installed, it has the boot.img patched with Magisk without any error and rooted perfectly, but google play for more than clean and reinstall it never opens, it does not allow me to login to the accounts, the APPs they close alone, etc.
I will try to put the stock and again but I have very little hope. thanks, again¡¡
prodigy90 said:
Thank you very much, I feel lucky that you have responded so quickly, sometimes my messages I post in this forum are never answered. Right now I am with revolution X:
--- It has TWRP perfectly installed, it has the boot.img patched with Magisk without any error and rooted perfectly, but google play for more than clean and reinstall it never opens, it does not allow me to login to the accounts, the APPs they close alone, etc.
I will try to put the stock and again but I have very little hope. thanks, again¡¡
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yeah it seems to be pretty finicky getting a good install and gapps seem to have issues. reading all the posts in the lineage17 thread just make me cringe. as much as i'd love to use lineage as my daily driver (or evo X) my days of willing to put up with a buggy rom and daily dirty flashing have come and gone. this was my first, and will be my last, moto device for the the simple fact it just doesnt have the user base and its development is stunted, compared to more widely used devices.
i hope you get something working, the lineage17 thread definetly has some good advice on what people have done to get a working install, should be able to apply flash order etc to a evoX install (minus having to install gapps for evoX)
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I managed to perfectly install the Stock Rom with the following tool:
Lenovo MOTO Smart Assistant, a real wonder, simply select the model and in fastboot, immediately install the factory rom.
download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/lmsa_v4.5.0.14_setup.exe
prodigy90 said:
I managed to perfectly install the Stock Rom with the following tool:
Lenovo MOTO Smart Assistant, a real wonder, simply select the model and in fastboot, immediately install the factory rom.
download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles/lmsa_v4.5.0.14_setup.exe
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yup, the LMSA is a great tool for sure. glad you got back to a clean stock install.
okay so ive tested a number of treble GSI's on SM-X200 but im finding that the device randomly reboots on all Android 13 GSIS, now when i say reboots im talking about youve set up, youve loaded the tablet, your just using your tablet as you normally will and the device reboots
Lineage OS 19 works perfectly fine without reboots, but as soon as i flash LOS20 GSI it reboots all the time
What makes it even more strange is when i install Android 14 Beta GSI i get no reboots, but then i have another problem where my Device cant connect to any bluetooth Devices, so the GSI itself is really stable, but i use Bluetooth Earphones, and Googles Android GSIS dont have the PHH settings menu, which fixes the problem on all other roms
Any Sugguestions on how to fix? im stumped
Hmmm maybe I'll hold off installing LOS20
billyb1987 said:
Hmmm maybe I'll hold off installing LOS20
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i advice against installing any android 13 gsis, i have tested rooted/unrooted, Magisk Rooted, and Inbuilt superuser
Ive tried every single android 13 gsi out there, AOSP, ArrowOS, Evolution X, you name it, ive tried android 12, 12L and 13 roms, If you have any questions about other specific roms and my results feel free to ask me, but as a general rule, Android 12 works fully on lighter roms, but Android 13 is a Glitchfest
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i advice against installing any android 13 gsis, i have tested rooted/unrooted, Magisk Rooted, and Inbuilt superuser
Ive tried every single android 13 gsi out there, AOSP, ArrowOS, Evolution X, you name it, ive tried android 12, 12L and 13 roms, If you have any questions about other specific roms and my results feel free to ask me, but as a general rule, Android 12 works fully on lighter roms, but Android 13 is a Glitchfest
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Sure...a question - have you ever been able to flash a non LOS GSI successfuly (besides PHH based ones)? I've probably tried just as many GSIs and all the rest seem to be too big
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Sure...a question - have you ever been able to flash a non LOS GSI successfuly (besides PHH based ones)? I've probably tried just as many GSIs and all the rest seem to be
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As a general rule, if the image is a very basic image without the modifications so for example AOSP 12, that is generally smaller in size it works, if you get a really heavily modified system, to pull some out of a hat Evolution X, Project Elixir they get stuck on the Samsung screen and just sit there for days, so the smaller roms android 12 work really well, but the bigger ones don't
However Android directly from the developer site works even on android 13, 14, the only drawback if there's no compatibility layers for bluetooth
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As a general rule, if the image is a very basic image without the modifications so for example AOSP 12, that is generally smaller in size it works, if you get a really heavily modified system, to pull some out of a hat Evolution X, Project Elixir they get stuck on the Samsung screen and just sit there for days, so the smaller roms android 12 work really well, but the bigger ones don't
However Android directly from the developer site works even on android 13, 14, the only drawback if there's no compatibility layers for bluetooth
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Yeah I figured that all out...but larger ROMs like Evolution and Elixir based off of A12 don't work as well? Just tried the A13 based ones
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okay so ive tested a number of treble GSI's on SM-X200 but im finding that the device randomly reboots on all Android 13 GSIS, now when i say reboots im talking about youve set up, youve loaded the tablet, your just using your tablet as you normally will and the device reboots
Lineage OS 19 works perfectly fine without reboots, but as soon as i flash LOS20 GSI it reboots all the time
What makes it even more strange is when i install Android 14 Beta GSI i get no reboots, but then i have another problem where my Device cant connect to any bluetooth Devices, so the GSI itself is really stable, but i use Bluetooth Earphones, and Googles Android GSIS dont have the PHH settings menu, which fixes the problem on all other roms
Any Sugguestions on how to fix? im stumped
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Does the boot logo appear twice when it reboots?
andr_SMOLKEYS said:
Does the boot logo appear twice when it reboots?
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on odd occasions its been the logo from the GSI itself, others it reboots back to Samsung, and starts the whole tablet again, either way its quite annoying
andr_SMOLKEYS said:
Does the boot logo appear twice when it reboots?
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By this, I meant does the "Samsung Galaxy" text appear once, disappear, then reappear again? If so, then the tablet is going through a kernel panic/crash. One major way of knowing this is when music playing through the speakers repeats and then stops after a bit. Another way of knowing is if a chunk of text appears at the top left of the screen.
andr_SMOLKEYS said:
By this, I meant does the "Samsung Galaxy" text appear once, disappear, then reappear again? If so, then the tablet is going through a kernel panic/crash. One major way of knowing this is when music playing through the speakers repeats and then stops after a bit.
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sounds familliar, and yes when it reboots to the samsung logo, theres some script in the top left, then it reboots again, if thats the case is there currently a fix?
Are you rooted? If so, check out /sys/fs/pstore/console-ramoops-0 and send me its contents.
If you can't do that, do you use mobile data?
Do I have to be using one of the roms thats causing the reboot in order to get the information you need, if so I'll flash one now and get you the information, yes rooted with magisk 26.1
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Do I have to be using one of the roms thats causing the reboot in order to get the information you need, if so I'll flash one now and get you the information, yes rooted with magisk 26.1
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For an idea...I'd try patching again with either Magisk 25.2 or Delta. 26 has been giving a lot of people trouble, especially with Samsung devices
Whatever caused the kernel panic was resolved by refreshing stock firmware, including repartition, and refreshing los20 its not doing it now, I'll pay close attention to what happens from here, I'm using the latest los20 gsi from June, there's 2 possibility, the less likely being the new rom had something change thats stopped the device getting irritated, but the most likely thing is that in refreshing stock firmware and flashing los20 after something got fixed that was broken, either way, working now
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Yeah I figured that all out...but larger ROMs like Evolution and Elixir based off of A12 don't work as well? Just tried the A13 based ones
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Non Treble gsis work, I tried a leaf os gsi that didn't support Treble, and everything worked, Google gsis have a Bluetooth issue which don't work on audio devices, everything else works perfectly, I'm pretty sure there's a magisk patch for the audio problem